Canada Makes Marijuana Legal, and a National Experiment Begins
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MONTREAL — Canada on Wednesday became the first major world economy to legalize recreational marijuana use, beginning a national experiment that will alter the country’s social, cultural and economic fabric, and present the nation with its biggest public policy challenge in decades.
Newfoundlanders became the first Canadians to be able to smoke pot legally, when retailers there opened in the country’s easternmost province at midnight.
Across the rest of the country, government-run stores were preparing to greet consumers, who will be able to choose among pre-rolled joints, fresh or dried marijuana flowers and cannabis oil — all of which are permitted under the new federal law.
And pot enthusiasts from Montreal to Winnipeg to Calgary were getting their bongs ready for “End of Prohibition” house parties.
The government is set to announce on Wednesday that it will make it easier for Canadians who were convicted of possessing small amounts of marijuana to obtain a pardon, said a government official familiar with the plan who confirmed it but was not authorized to speak publicly about it.
“The fact that we are moving away from a Prohibition model is a victory for human rights and social justice, an economic windfall for the Canadian economy and a sign of social progress,” said Adam Greenblatt, a director at Canopy Growth, a producer that has been valued at more than $10 billion dollars.
Others were more cautious.“Legalization of cannabis is the largest public policy shift this country has experienced in the past five decades,” said Mike Farnworth, British Columbia’s minister of public safety.
“It’s an octopus with many tentacles,” he added, “and there are many unknowns. I don’t think that when the federal government decided to legalize marijuana, it thought through all of the implications.”
In a stinging editorial published on Monday, the Canadian Medical Association Journal called the government’s legalization plan an “uncontrolled experiment in which the profits of cannabis producers and tax revenues are squarely pitched against the health of Canadians.”
It called on the government to promise to change the law if it leads to increased marijuana use.
But the so-called “green rush” is already on, as licensed cannabis growers have been rushing for months to get a foothold in what is expected to be a $5 billion industry ($6.5 billion Canadian dollars) by 2020, buttressed by the expected arrival of thousands of pot tourists from across the border in the United States.
When Justin Trudeau ran for prime minister three years ago, legalizing recreational marijuana was one of his campaign promises. Canadians broadly support cannabis legalization, reflecting a progressive liberal-minded country where use of the previously illegal drug has been commonplace.
Canada is only the second country in the world, after Uruguay, to legalize it.
According to Statistics Canada, 4.9 million Canadians used cannabis last year and consumed more than 20 grams of marijuana per person, spending a total of $5.6 billion.
Bernard Le Foll, a specialist in addiction at the Center for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto, a leading teaching hospital and research organization, said that although the center supported legalization, he was concerned that the public dissemination of information about risks had been insufficient.
“Cannabis is not a benign substance,” he said. “There is a clear risk of addiction and it can produce significant mental health issues if used by the wrong kind of people.”
He added, “It took decades for the public to understand the risks of cigarettes, and the legalization of cannabis has taken place only over a few years.”
The federal government has left the country’s 13 provinces and territories to carry out the new legislation and to set their own rules, creating a patchwork of regulations. Among many open questions are how the police will test drivers who may be high and how employers deal with employees who smoke before coming to work.
Under Canada’s new federal cannabis act, adults will be allowed to possess, carry and share with other adults up to 30 grams of dried cannabis, enough to roll roughly 60 regular-size joints. They will also be permitted a maximum of four homegrown marijuana plants per household.
Marijuana for medical purposes has been legal in Canada since 2001, and about 330,000 Canadians, including cancer patients, are registered to receive it from licensed producers.
Cannabis edibles — like pot-infused jelly beans, peanut butter and coffee — won’t be legal for another year.
On Tuesday, on a commercial street in the east end of Montreal, a new government marijuana retailer, with the appearance of a modern pharmacy, was bracing for crowds. The sterility of the store design seemed calculated to make pot unglamorous, almost like buying cough syrup.
After being screened by unarmed security guards near the entrance to ensure that they meet Quebec’s current legal age of 18 for cannabis consumption (19 in most other provinces), consumers will be able to scroll nearby flat computer screens detailing 180 products, such as Pink Kush, a dried cannabis flower that retails at about $95, or $122.90 Canadian dollars, for 15 grams.
To ensure that prices remain competitive with the black market, one gram of cannabis can be purchased for as low as about $4, or $5.25 Canadian dollars.
Inside the store, wooden shelves were stacked with cannabis products in boxes and containers, divided into three sections: Indica, Sativa and Hybrid.
Large big bold signs explained that Sativa could create the impression of being “uplifted and mentally stimulated,” while Indica “could create the impression of a relaxed and sleep-induced state.”
On opening day, attendants in green aprons will be explaining various weed aromas — lemon, skunk and diesel — as well as the intensity of THC in each product, which causes the psychotropic effects associated with cannabis.
As with cigarettes, the cannabis is clearly marked with health warnings like “One in eleven people who use cannabis will become addicted.”
The government’s stated rationale for legalizing cannabis is to tame an illegal trade estimated at $6.2 billion. But from Toronto to Winnipeg to Vancouver, hundreds of illegal shops have indicated they have no intention of shutting down, and the black market supply chain remains deeply entrenched.
Chief Constable Adam Palmer of the Vancouver Police Department, who is also the president of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, warned this week that defusing the black market would take years. At a time of limited resources, he said, policing marijuana would not suddenly become law enforcement’s primary concern.
“Fentanyl kills 11 Canadians a day,” he said, referring to the powerful synthetic opioid that is a public health scourge in some cities like Vancouver. “Marijuana does not.”
He added, “I don’t expect a big crackdown on day one.”
Among the biggest concerns among law enforcement and public safety officials is the risk that more people will drive while high.
Under the new law, those who drive stoned will face a fine of at least $1,000 Canadian dollars and up to five years in prison for cases that do not result in injury or death. Constable Palmer stressed that roadside sobriety tests would remain rigorous and that the number of officers trained to give such tests would increase from 13,000 to 20,000 over the next few years.
Police forces nationwide are divided over the reliability of roadside saliva tests for THC.
Some health officials warned that legalization threatened to create public health problems, if public education about risks did not intensify.
Jean-Sébastien Fallu, associate professor of applied psychology and a specialist in addiction at Université de Montréal, said he feared the new legalization so restricted what could be consumed and where that it could push users even further underground.
He also warned that the commercialization of cannabis risked “banalizing” the risks of consumption and creating peer pressure among vulnerable teenagers.
“We don’t want young people to feel stigmatized, for example, if they don’t use cannabis, and, as we have seen with alcohol, there can be a lot of social pressure,” Mr. Fallu said.
“Once the profit motive becomes the main imperative,” he added, “and big business lobbying becomes entrenched, we are worried that public health and safety will be sacrificed.”
Many who had pushed for the new law anticipated the day as a moment of jubilation. But in Vancouver, protesters who say legalization hasn’t gone far enough were planning to demonstrate Wednesday in front of Parliament in Victoria and to give away black-market joints.
Others were planning to smoke defiantly at the dozens of illegal marijuana dispensaries across the city.
“People don’t want to buy government-approved joints,” said Jodie Emery, a leading cannabis activist in Vancouver. “Legalization is little more than the whitewashing of cannabis culture.”
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Seems as in the rush to fulfill a campaign promise that this whole ting wasn't thought out very well, though only time will tell. Not sure they will be able to conduct roadside sobriety checks for Pot. Might be some growing pains along with this. As I listen to an Alternative Rock Radio Station out of Toronto, they see nothing at all wrong and nothing but sunshine and roses (and munchies), but they are broadcasting to a demographic that I don't really fit into.
From my side of the river, I'll watch and see how things go.....what was the joke? Why is someone high safer to drive than someone drunk? The pot smoker will sit at the stop sign and wait for it to turn green......
They should do this as a sobriety check.
I changed my comment - so I'll change it back to this - I don't feel impaired when I'm driving stoned, though I don't do it often, I am definitely more cautious.
I drive well either way.
But they're still impaired
I disagree.
I agree with that. I don't know how many times Mr Giggles told me he always drove better when he was stoned.
Right.
I don't think so, Bud. Stoned is stoned no matter how you got there
The only stoner who is impaired driving high is either A. new to weed or B. just smoked an eighth 5 minutes before getting behind the wheel.
Those who smoke daily will experience less impairment than a driver drinking a soda while they drive, and in some cases may drive even more carefully.
First ticket in Canada for smoking Cannibas while driving was issued at 1 a.m. in Winnipeg. Ticket fine is $672 (CSD). Not sure how they came up with that figure, but.....
I think I'll stick with the mediacal experts and researchers on impairment. It's pretty universal now for people to forswear drinking and driving, but it wasn't always that way, before the campaigns to stop drunk driving, people would actually say, well, I drive better after I've had a couple. Sounds like the same thing being said now by cannibas users.
Nonsense. There's no comparison between someone driving while intoxicated and someone under the 'influence' of marijuana.
Please rephrase your comment, that was almost like a double negative. Isn't under the 'influence' of marijuana the same as being intoxicated.
BTW the better comparison is someone smoking marijuana with someone smoking tobacco.
There are a lot of Idiots on the roads, some are impaired, some are distracted, some just aren't paying attention, and some were just born stupid. Being stoned on pot isn't as impairing as drinking a six pack and while I wouldn't recommend driving stoned I'd rather share the road with Stoners than Idiots who are trying to do two other things while driving.
As a professional driver (I hold a Commerical License for Busses and have been a chauffeur) I would rather not be on the same road with anyone imbibing any type of drug, to include alcohol. There are enough people that suck at driving with no 'additional help'.
They will, it's the same as the alcohol sobriety check. You know walk a straight line, touch your nose, stand on one leg, smell, etc
You're correct time will tell on this one
"If I did, then that would make you a rock that can write English on itself which is a pretty damn impressive rock and one that should be listened to."
Humor sounds different to each person.
True, I was simply taking the joke to its next illogical conclusion...
It really doesn't matter if they can or not, in Canada like the USA Pot has been readily available to everyone for fifty years despite the fact it was/is Illegal. If you/ have always had 200-300 people selling pot Illegally in a City how much real impact are a few "Legal Pot Stores" going to have on the Users behavior.
Well, now that it is a legal, government regulated substance, you know that there are and will be more laws governing it. Most police have a breathalizer now that measures BAC which is far less subjective than a physical agility test administered on the side of the road.
Should be interesting times at the reentry border crossings from Canada to the U.S.
Reentry by US citizens shouldn't be a problem (unless they're carrying or completely gooned) as they're still a US citizen and can't be barred. However Cdn visitors to the US will face greater scrutiny
Freefaller
Wow I thought people could make the intuitive leap to what I meant, but I guess that was too much to ask
I was inferring that many less that mensa eligible individuals are likely to try and bring back the lower priced (than here) weed and they might get caught and jammed up at the border
Are you always this snippy when people don't automatically intuit what you meant?
No sometimes I can be in your face snippy. I merely provided the obviously necessary elaboration to clear up obvious confusion
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Sorry I am not very intuitive (especially with complete strangers on the internet) and have a habit of responding to what is typed. No big deal.
It's still a crime to transport weed across the border, both ways.
I go across fairly often. They walk sniffer dogs through traffic sitting waiting to get to the custome boothes. Those dogs will be getting some extra training and operations time, I'm thinking.
I agree. A lot will ASSUME that since it's legal on both sides that it's legal to transport. Maybe they will have a grace period?
when the federal government decided to legalize marijuana, it thought through all of the implications.”
Since when is that a requirement for a government to act ?
alcohol prohibition would still be the law of the land if so.
as well as tobacco products should be.
Wait, Canada had prohibition too?
LOL... Wait we have a government too ?
I cant name a government I believe really does think things thru well enough. On this or most issues. That was kinda my point.
I know, just struck me as funny.....
LOL.. I do the same thing. Its cool.
It did, sorta, but different. It was only a wartime measure at the federal level from 1918-20 and provinces just carried on the rules for various periods afterwards. Que stopped first in 1919 and PEI stopped last in 1948 (most stopped in the 20's)
“Cannabis is not a benign substance,” he said. “There is a clear risk of addiction and it can produce significant mental health issues if used by the wrong kind of people.”
Replace the word cannabis with the word alcohol
I agree with you, though when it comes to alcohol, there are laws on the books, ways to measure BAC and such. How do they measure BWC? What point (in the law) is 'under the influence' or 'intoxicated'? Addiitonally, there are lots of other things......just think,there is going to be a chip, donut and brownie shortage.......
Start stocking up for the pothead apocalypse.
As for the other stuff, drunk drivers were around for as long as the first horseless carriage went public. How long did it take for scientists to figure out how to measure BAC? I'm not worried about it.
I don't think that there's going to be a lot more high drivers after it's legal. There's just going to continue to be high drivers, except in a country where pot is legal. The high drivers were rarely ever a problem. Making it legal isn't going to significantly change the number of people who use it.
Alcohol is far more damaging than weed. It's not even close.
I'm buying whatever shares I can afford, lol
CRON, ACBFF
I looked at Tilray and Aphia but $155USD per share is beyond my 'allowance' lol
One of the .89 a share companies might be attractive if they weren't -25% already, lol
So which would you think would be easier for you to afford? Owning 10 shares of a $155/share stock-- or owning a much cheaper stock-- for example owning, say, 1742 shares of an 89 cent stock?
Which is a better deal?
Here's another opinion-- what "Mr. Wonderful" said about buying Marijuana stocks:
Shark Tank's O'Leary: 'Never would I touch' investing in cannabis today
Canada on Wednesday became the first industrialized nation to legalize the recreational use of marijuana — but at least one major investor still isn’t convinced pot stocks are a good bet.
Canadian businessman Kevin O’Leary, Shark Tank host and chairman of O’Shares ETF Investments, said in an interview on Yahoo Finance’s Market Movers on Wednesday that he would “never” invest in cannabis stocks . . . (cont'd)
It's like any Stock you have to know what the company actually does and what Assets it has. Are they just a middle man buying from growers, do they own dispensaries or just sell to them, are they growers with facilities, do they own real estate. In the USA with Pots semi-legal status many Pot companies haven't bought Real Estate or held any Assets because they're afraid of Forfeiture so the only real value they have is based on their Sales Figures and Profit Margins. The most important thing is the Laws, and rules and regulations and they're all in Flux right now with the Federal Laws largely being ignored and State Laws and rules/regulations still being hammered out. Given the fact that if Legalization occurs every Farm is a Potential Pot grower and any fool can be a middle man or stores can source their products directly from the growers the only real long term value any of these Pot Stocks can have is Dispensaries since most Municipalities are limiting the number of Legal "Pot Stores" they will allow so having the license to operate a store is a valuable asset in the way a Liquor License for a Liquor store is usually worth more than the building and inventory. There may also be some value to companies that Produce Hash and Hash oil but I would stay away from companies that produce infused Candy and Junk Food, first because every candy/junk food manufacturer can potentially infuse their products but secondly I see infusing products "children love" with mind altering substances as a Law Suit waiting to happen. In the end if Pot ever becomes Truly Legal people will grow it themselves because many people grow their own tomatoes when each plant produces less than ten dollars worth of Tomatoes so since each Pot Plant can easily Produce over a thousand dollars worth of Pot that savings potential provides a tremendous amount of incentive to "Grow Your Own".
I suppose many people forgot what you said, but being a curious person I checked.
The day you made that comment, CRON was $10.65/share. Today it closed at $8.52--the stock lost about 20% of its value!
But what I find even more interesting though is that it didn't take a few months to do that-- or even a few weeks. But what I find really interesting is that it managed to lose 1/5 of its value in just three trading days.
So if indeed you bought "whatever I can afford, lol" -- I'm wondering how long to you intend to hold on to the stock. lol
I'm an optimist.
I cling to all of this crap hoping it has to go up, lol
That was 2 days ago-- FWIW today CRON closed at $7.63.
And the beat goes on ....
(Eventually it will go up a bit...maybe even tomorrow.)
And there's another reason why one should not jump into thone is two hastily:
SHAREHOLDER ALERT: Pomerantz Law Firm Reminds Shareholders with Losses on their Investment in Cronos Group Inc. of Class Action Lawsuit and Upcoming Deadline – CRON
When I first started trading I was also an optimist. But I was stubborn-- I kept being an optimist even as many of my stocks kept going down,,and down,, and down. (I was very stubborn).
It took the loss of an extremely large amount of money before I faced the true facts (not the "alternative facts"). I finally woke up-- at least in the market I am no longer an optimist-- rather, I've become a realist!
(Since then I've been doing pretty well-- some nice gains).
Really? We couldn't have gone with a little free enterprise?
Nope the government wants to get it's grubby little paws directly on any profits
"We"? Are you a Canadian Taco? Peameal Bacon instead of ground beef? You made with cheese curds and gravy?
Think of it like the medical "we." e.g.: "How are we feeling today?"
But Poutine Tacos! Dude. We could start a whole new foodie thing in Canada........
The only thing in real danger from a person that is stoned is the chips aisle at the corner gas station. A group of jacked up teens can decimate a chips stand in seconds.
Imagine how you could explode profits if you ran an AM/PM and sold pot right next to the Doritos. One stop shopping!
I've told my wife that when it's legalized here in Tejas, I'm gonna open a dispensary/pizzeria. We'll make a fortune.😁
Exactly. Or.... Sitting in a chair on the porch having a couple of beers... Open Amazon app on your phone, order some quality stink weed and 45 minutes later? A drone drops a bag in your lap. Win!
Holy crap, best idea I have seen in a long time!
Right? Who can resist the smell of meat, cheese, sauce and skunk?
Marijuana doesn't impair your motor functions the way alcohol does. The very first Olympic gold medal in snowboarding was won by Canadian Ross Rebagliati, and he was stripped of the medal for testing positive for pot.
Yes it was but it was given back later
True.
But what I wonder is-- does it impair ability at all?
Of course it does, otherwise there would be no appeal. Although it could be argued that impaired is in the eye of the beholder and that enhanced would be the accurate description.☺
I don't think so. I think it enhances . . . everything.
Once again, I think I'll trust the mediacal authorities and researchers (outside of oh, 'my research consists of I smoke dope and don't remember being impaired').
That's fine. You do that spike.
O I would love to agree, When I smoke marijuana I smoke it as you say to "Enhance everything" to me good pot enhances my vision, my hearing, my smell, my taste and my enjoyment, But enhancing my memory, No. Enhancing my drive, No. Enhancing mt attention span, No. Enhancing My ambitions, No. Enhancing my pocketbook, No.
Externally it also has some negative "Side effects"as well. Price, federally still illegal, major employment restrictions, some negative remaining social stigma,
I'm sure if I thought hard enough I could come up with some more negatives I see in using marijuana , however to me the positives have outweighed the negatives for many years.
My entire family of 5 were all alcoholics including myself. I saw what my alcoholism was doin to my life and stopped I watched the rest of my family lose their happiness, their health and then their lives all directly related to their alcoholism.
Using the alternative marijana I'm sure helped me stay of the alcohol and helped me be able to have a happier, healthier, more productive life. Yep the positives have definitely out weighed the negatives fro me, I'm alive, happy, healthy and financially stable.
If not for having this alternative I seriously doubt I would be alive to write my opinion. My sibling died from their alcoholism years ago and they were much younger than I am today. They were also much unhappier and unhealthier as well for many years before they passed.
But, to each their own, RIP: Mom, Dad, little brother and younger sister. You are missed !
Sooooo thaaaaaats the problem.
Too much "Pot" being smoked by the politically driven "Left" it seems.
I'll trust the researcher much more that the medical authorities.
Too many Medical people IMO: are way too biased against marijuana for no other reason than it's inhaled, hasn't been fully studied and their own unfounded negative long term biasness.
Well I wouldn’t doubt that more liberal mined people smoke pot more than do conservative minded folks do.
I wonder what the stats are concerning alcohol use conservative verse liberal.
And then the study results to see which drug actually screws up the brain more.
Considering I have both in my past I'd be interested in seeing the study results.
Your vision gets better, too? So does mine.
I get better at math and puzzles when I indulge
Which is "More", isn't something that needs to be studied. I've been around overused both. I walk away from Both.
There is enough "Stupid" out there. Don't need to be around "Enhanced Stupid" !
Yes these days my vision actually gets Much better. I have double vision caused by an auto accident years ago, Smoking pot opens my pupils up slightly which lessens the double vision. Plus of course the enhanced colors.
I dont know that I get better at anything when stoned But I sure do seem to enjoy whatever I'm doing just a little more.
I stay with mostly sativa strains of marijuana , The indica strains is what makes people "Stupider" I agree I dont want to go thru live in a fog.
'Too much "Pot" being smoked by the politically driven "Left" it seems.' That's a stupid comment. Par for the course though.
You can't smoke too much pot in my opinion.
I was sitting on the deck one day, getting stoned, and looked into the woods which were approximately 200 yards away....and I can see poison ivy growing up the sides of the trees. I couldn't see it before.
Now I know where the poison ivy is
It's always funny listening to folks when they say "How they Really are" when they use with either/or....or both in public.
What they "Think" they are, and what other people actually "See" that they are, are two stories so far apart, you could fly a 747 between them.
LOL mine too. But its my opinion because i forget to keep puffing.
Boy isn't that the truth, I've know some people who seriously thought they didn't have a problem and it was quite obvious they did. My best friend is an alcoholic who really has a tough time inlife, has major problems with jobs and interaction with most people, to HIM, it's ALL other people's fault(s) every time.
My parents by contrast were dosel dunks controlled alcoholics Is what I came to refer to them as. You didn't hardly ever see the obvious effects of their drinking but the underlying damage that was done ended up killing both of them. Ruining their health and happiness along the way.
With pot, I' see all the exaggerated stereotype bs on the media and I've personally seen people who even marijuana messes then up to the point of not functioning properly.
For myself. I dont use much at a time, I believe in moderation in everything and I do not use it to the point I feel it affects my performance , or mental functions to the point that it negatively affects me too much, or I wouldn't use it.
There are many times I do not want the effects of anything clouding me, my thinking, my performance, or my world in any ways at all.
However, I also have never known anyone in real life as bad as I see potheads depicted in the movies or in the media, and I've been around alot of high people, some people definitely handle it better than others just like with alcohol.
To each their own !
Now who told you that. Your "High" friends ?
Exactly !
IMO....I really don't give a fuck if someone smokes or drinks. Just don't act like an ass around me, or put someone in my family in jeopardy because of it.
AND
Don't sit there and make it all out to be "Nothing".
It's actually "Something" worthy of watching...… for safety sake.
That was my brother, may he RIP.
I did know one person in college who seemed perpetually stoned. Maybe he was, but I very much doubt if he really did amount to anything because it seemed like he spent more time getting stoned than going to class
My mom is hoping they will legalize in New York as she would use it for chronic pain from injuries she has sustained in her life and poly-myalgia. Though she will not smoke. She's tried CBD oil but found it did nothign for her. Of course, she is retired and doesn't do things that call for a lot of precision.
Yes, Sorry for your lose. My brother was an alcoholic as well as I said but he was a really good person at heart, He would do stuff for others I wouldn't. Nice stuff and not expect a damn thing in return, ever. He just seemed to made one bad life decision after another.
May he aso rest in peace
And yep I've known stoners that were going nowhere fast as well. Usually they didn't stop at using just pot though.
IMO: Medical marijuana should be recognised legalized and tested with the federal government's approval.
Myself I have had to relocate from state to state to get what I needed to have a better life. I feel for your mom,
But, until she actually tries it she really doesn't know if that is the answer for her personally or not.
I have a friend who has MD Muscular Dystrophy his hands and feet are disfigured from the disease and he has a great deal of pain, some strains of medical marijuana do help some what but he says none of iit is powerful enough to really relieve his suffering much. Opiates is his only relief.
Good luck to your Mom in finding relief from her suffering ! MMJ May certainly help.
It sure seems to help many relieve at least some of their pain.
Maybe they will legalize mmj and your mom could either get edibles or she could make her own infusions such as butter.
She might even try making tea
Many people I've known have experienced that it makes them fell very relaxed, very mellow-- and very, very lazy. (I suppose that whther that a plus or not dependson one's individual values).
A lot of it depends on the strain or marijuana plant used then of course each person is a little different as well so the effects vary and the amount used of course !
Sativa plants though are usually more uplifting and enhance the senses more than the indica strains usually do. Indica strains are better for pain reduction, eating and sleeping disorders and relaxation. They call it "couch lock" lol
Much of today's marijuana is highbreed, a mix of both. But the difference remains for the most part there is just a big various of degrees that the the mixtures produce resulting in somewhat slightly different effects.
Using marijuana in moderation like everything if you are going to use it at all, is best. lol
IMO: IF your marijuana puts you to sleep , ya got the wrong stuff !!...lol
No, but it does impair you the way marijuana does.
THE EFFECT OF CANNABIS COMPARED WITH ALCOHOL ON DRIVING
There's no comparison between drunk driving and driving under the influence of marijuana.
Nobody is saying that, the quote does say that THC from smoking dope impairs certain motor functions.
Mkay.
I'm not anti-pot, but my eyes are open. Pot impairs. Period. The fact that alcohol impairs more and differently does not change that.
Nope. End of sentence.
Sound like some like to swap one " Hell for another " one drug for another one abuse for another, is that like Bookkeeping and Ledger?
Or Just Drug dealers trying to keep the clientele
I find it interesting that so many people feel so they know what the effect of legalizing it will be.
Generally there are two sorts of opinions-- that it won't pose any danger at all-- the rate of driving accidents will not Increase at all.
Others think they will increase.
Of course that sort of thing is common on the Internet-- people feeling so sure that they know something-- when in fact they don't.
I don't know what the effect of legalization will be. But as pot become legal in more and more places....it won't be too long before we'll know...either way!
Good for our pals up north! Go Canada!
All I can say about this is I was born much too early.
Even though I travel frequently to your old stomping grounds, I won't be partaking-I'm still subject to random testing as a condition of employment.
Lol I live here and won't be partaking, tried it (repeatedly) when I was young and didn't find it enjoyable
REEFER MADNESS
"It gives you a whole new way of looking at the day, George."
They were playing clips of this on the radio all day yesterdaY!
Of course THEY were, THEY got little else.
Really? Is that so?
Yeah Buzz it really is, much of the hype about the monster marijuana is just that, Hype.
MeThinks Buzz thought you were dissing Canada.......
You could be correct: Me thinks Me may be too hypersensitive. I sometimes mistake people intentions.
I think at the time I was kinda over reacting to what I first perceived Buzz's post as more anti marijuana legalization. I was shown I was wrong in other posts from him.
Thanks
I never saw that show in its entirety but have always seen it as propaganda against something I think could be beneficial to millions of suffering people.
Funny.. NO
Sad as hell.. yes sir !
Reefer Madness was looked upon by us as either an intended spoof or an ignorant attempt by aged super-straight self-righteous assholes as propaganda. As for the "Don't Bogart that Joint" scene in Easy Rider, the following murder of Nicholson by the straight goons could have been meant as a lesson, as did the eventual murder of Hopper and Fonda, that REAL freedom does not exist in the USA.
Buzz, I Know but tend to forget it was funny to millions of people. I never felt that way about much of any media intentionally sarcastically or otherwise ridiculing the unrealistic portrayal of "potheads" maybe because I was a pothead. But, I saw it as a way to help not drink myself to death not as something to be ridiculed to the point of almost brainwashing the masses against a substance I believed was helping me.
So to me I never found much pothead humor especially funny some is, most I sure could have lived without, in many ways !
Or, for that matter, anywhere else!
(Of course it depends upon your definitiion of "real")
And of "Freedom".
But then-- doesn't everything?
(Of course it depends upon your definition of "real")
And of "Freedom".
But then-- doesn't everything?
(No, I never did play one on TV) .
But then again, perhaps "Freedom" is just another word for...
Here's the buzz on the two videos (for the "Censorship Challenged"):
1. Embedded video is lyrics of the late, great Janis Joplin singing "Me and Bobby McGee".
2. "play one on TV" (INALBIPOOTV) is a link to a video of the themes song to "L.A. Law")