Experts: Bomber likely left behind trove of forensic clues
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WASHINGTON — Investigators examining the explosive devices sent to high-profile targets in Washington and New York this week will be working to glean forensic clues to help identify who sent them, gathering fingerprints and DNA evidence while tracking the origin of the packages and the components used to make the bombs.
Larry Johnson, a former head of criminal investigations for the U.S. Secret Service who also served as a special agent in charge of the presidential protective detail, said that bomb makers usually leave evidence behind. "If there is a human involved, there is a high probability you're going to get somewhere investigatively," he said. "There will be no stone left unturned."
Johnson said it is highly likely that the person or people who built the bombs have been previously flagged by law enforcement. The Secret Service maintains an extensive database of individuals and groups who have made past threats against presidents or other top political leaders, either through letters, emails or on social media.
"A good percentage of the time, this is not the first time whoever is responsible for this will have stuck their neck out," Johnson said. "Those looking to do revenge or harm to someone, it doesn't just come to them one day."Among the first steps for investigators will be retracing the path of the packages through the postal system or courier service used to deliver them.
The U.S. Postal Service operates a sophisticated imaging system that photographs the outside of each piece of mail processed across the country and can be used to determine the specific location of where it was sent. That's how federal officials were led to a woman who sent the poison ricin through the mail to President Barack Obama and then-New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg in 2013.
The envelopes and packaging materials themselves will also be closely scrutinized.
"It will be a treasure trove of forensic evidence," said Anthony Roman, a private security and investigations consultant. "As human beings, we are filtering off our DNA everywhere we walk, everywhere we sit."
Even the most careful bomber is likely to leave behind genetic material that could be used to identify them, especially traces of sweat, saliva or skin cells. There may also be fingerprints or hair.
Roman said investigators will also be collecting all available video camera footage taken from where the packages were mailed and delivered, as well as interviewing any potential witnesses in the area.
Because the devices were intercepted before they exploded, forensics experts will be able to carefully disassemble the devices and examine the components. They'll examine the wiring, the initiating system, any timing device. If it was a pipe bomb, authorities will seek to identify what type of pipe. The design of the bomb will be compared to other explosive devices recovered in the past.
Adam B. Hall, director of the Core Mass Spectrometry Facility at the Barnett Institute of Chemical and Biological Analysis at Northeastern University, said most devices are made from easily available materials regardless of what specific type of device it is.
It will have three primary components: the pipe, the explosive filler and an "initiator," or mechanism to set it off. The initiator will help identify how sophisticated the bomb maker is, whether it's a timing device or a remote trigger.
"Your typical pipe bomb, it's not very sophisticated," said Hall, who previously worked in the Massachusetts State Police crime laboratory and was involved in the Boston Marathon bombing investigation. "A lot of the directions for this are available on the Internet. ... This is not something that would require days or weeks of planning in order to execute."
Still, there are likely innumerable telltale signs that could help authorities track down how and where it was made, said Jimmie Oxley, the co-director of the University of Rhode Island's Center of Excellence in Explosives, Detection, Mitigation, and Response.
Some explosives can be homemade, which will make them more difficult to trace. But other materials must be purchased and can help narrow down where and how a device was made. Smokeless powder, for example, is virtually guaranteed to have been purchased. Black powder can be commercial grade or homemade, but it's easy to discern which is which.
"All of these are signatures," she said.
There are times, such as with the recent spate of bombings in Austin, Texas, as well as with the notorious Unabomber, when each device will have a different "signature" in an attempt to throw off authorities or as the person making the devices tests and finesses their technique.
Oxley said there will still likely be some commonalities that will allow law enforcement to zero in on a suspect or suspects.
"It's not an insurmountable task," Oxley said. "There's a ton of evidence out there. Unless this is a really, really smart person, they will find out who did this."
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I hope they find whoever is responsbile for this and try and convist them and they never see the light of day. NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE.
At this point, specualting on who or why is a Fool's Errand. This kind of foolish lawlessness needs to stop altogether.
One key point on this statement that should set your heart a flutter, the act of sending bombs to anyone with a political agenda behind it is an act of terrorism, even if it doesn't explode so, the person or, persons involved in this are looking at being tried for Domestic Terrorism under the Patriot Act.
Couldn't agree more so, who's going to tell Trump he has to stop making CNN, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Eric Holder, Maxine Waters, the Obama's, Joe Biden, Robert DeNiro and, George Soros the Boogieman?
Why not take whataboutism to the next level? Have the same person that tells Trump to stop, also tell CNN, H. Clinton, Bill Clinton, Eric Holder, Maxine Waters, the Obama's. Joe Biden, Robert De Niro and George Soros that Trump is not the Boogieman either (?) : )
The first part of your comment was well thought out and to the point.
The second part was just foolisheness. You are old enough to know better. We, at the normal day to day citizen level are responsibile for our own thoughts and actions. Might want to concentrate on that, before trying to direct others.
I don't know where any one of the people you have named have come out and, said that Trump is evil, that Trump is the Anti-Christ, that Trump is a Nazi or, a White Supremacist, I have heard them say that there needs to be a check on his or, the RNC's power in government and, that we need to try to turn some states from Red to Blue. If you have information where they actually said these things, then I will agree that they need to stop.
Show me where Trump has not tried to make each and, every one of these folks into some kind of Boogie man, he constantly try's to campaign against Hillary, even though until recently she has been out of politics since the election, as has Obama, Holder and, DeNero. Soros is nothing but a money man so, how is he a Boogie man. DeNero said one time, "Fuck Trump", that deserves a bomb being sent to him? Really? Come on admit it, Trump uses these people to fire up his base and, now its coming back to bite him the ass and, he doesn't know what to do.
Let's add Trumps tweet this morning, after he called for unity yesterday,
So, I guess he expects everyone in the media to bow down to him and, kiss his ass.
I was being a smartass regarding your whataboutism list [I will spell it out next time, rather than leave a smiley face at the end] ... for all you know the bombs have nothing to do with a Trump supporter or his rhetoric and were sent by a (D) sitting in moms basement hating on Trump and his supporters....
Good morning B .. I am hoping today you and your husband have a bit brighter, and sweet day..
I am curious as well .. I am confident the individual(s) will be caught soon (if they do not blow themselves up first) … as to the why? that is a mystery for sure .. these former officials (or current ones) never see or open their own mail, even at home .. so why send the bomb except as a 'I can bomb your staff' message - really makes no sense at this time...
Yeah, I can see why .. no one desires to hear that 'one of their own' could do something like that .. but 'we' know the same side can do to themselves, and blame others, even hate crimes... Albeit it does not happen on a regular basis ...
My thoughts are with the 2 of you... there are advancements all the time - some day there will be a cure!
This is why I said, 'No matter who'. I have no idea whop or why at this point, neither does anyone else, though some (see above) are obviously ready to throw blame around and then addiitonally, blame the other side for inciting, for violence, etc., etc.
The sad thing is that they pretend they can't see this in themselves.
Because absent Trump, everyone had such a high opinion of those people.
Agreed, I do not have a dog in this fight, I do not 'hope' that it is not one of mine, as I do not have a side - find the bastard (bastardette) smack them with the book hard, before taking them out back and shooting them...
I know, and it is frustrating to say the least .. some individuals go as far as to say that it is Trump supporters that are causing the great divide in this nation … yep, Trump said it best .. 'they go low, we kick 'em' ………...
yeah he did say that and I won't go into the several supposed "Leaders" from the other side saying much the same things.
But there is the results of it....
1. Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) was shot by a leftist supporter of Bernie Sanders at Congressional baseball practice in 2017, and nearly died from his injuries.
2. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) was attacked and severely injured by a Democrat neighbor while mowing his lawn. He suffered fractured ribs and pleural effusion. GQ magazine then suggested that he deserved it .
3. Rep. Dave Kustoff (R-Tenn.), was run off the road by a violent leftist who was upset about healthcare
5. A liberal teacher in Minnesota called for someone to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh on Twitter. She later resigned .
6. Sen. Cory Gardner’s (R-Colo.) wife received a threatening video of a beheading just prior to his vote for Kavanaugh, meant as a warning against confirming the Judge.
7. Speaking of beheadings, comedienne Kathy Griffin held a photoshoot with an effigy of Trump’s severed head.
8. Just this week a man’s truck was torched in Portland, Oregon for having a Trump sticker on the bumper.
10. A rabid Trump-hater from California (but I repeat myself) attempted to stab a GOP congressional candidate.
11. A 30-year-old loser attacked teens eating at a Whataburger in Texas, throwing a drink on them and stealing a MAGA hat.
12. Former National Security Advisor Susan Rice’s son was physically assaulted at a pro-Brett Kavanaugh event at Stanford University.
13. An Albany County, Wyoming GOP office was vandalized and set on fire in September.
14. A GOP office in Hillsborough, North Carolina was firebombed in 2016.
15. A Muslim man’s limousine was set ablaze during protests in Washington, D.C. on inauguration day.
16. Supporters of Sen. Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren (D-Mass.) assaulted an independent candidate running against her when he attended one of Warren’s rallies.
17. An Army veteran was struck in the head at with a bike lock by an Antifa member at a pro-freedom rally in Rhode Island.
18. The same thing happened to Trump supporters in Berkeley, California. The assailant was a community college professor.
19. A New York man was arrested and charged with making terrorist threats after threatening to kill a GOP congressman and Trump supporters.
20. A member of Charlotte, North Carolina’s Antifa group pepper-sprayed a Trump supporter at a rally.
There are plenty more examples of leftist violence, and this list does not include harassment of of Republican politicians and cabinet members in public and at their homes. Nor does it include the bevy of leftist politicians calling for the harassment of Trump supporters, including Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif) and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.).
No one has to make the case for that, we wake up each day, turn on the news and exclaim "WTF?" because Trump has inevitably exposed himself as the very swamp creature we were all afraid he'd be. His tweets expose him, his finely scented words for authoritarians like Putin and Kim Jong Un, his bitter vitriol for our long time allies like Canada, Great Britain, Australia, France and NATO. His double speak on China where one day he's saying we need to push back against their manufacturing dominance then the next day saying we need to rescue one of their major companies to save Chinese jobs. Day after day he exposes himself as a self absorbed bigot calling some of our allies "shithole countries", talking about others with haughty disdain referring to the "huts" they need to go back to. He is the boogieman and openly proves it every day, he just happens to have a base of horror fans who couldn't be happier at all the chaos he's causing for those they feel left them behind. He is the revenge they have hoped and waited for decades for. Ever since George Sr. took over after Reagan they've been starting to seethe, they felt they got abandoned by both parties who colluded to deport their manufacturing jobs and imported more immigrants so they're overjoyed that Washington is getting annihilated by a political arsonist. Sure, in the end it won't actually benefit them, because this kind of chaos only ever ultimately hurts those on the bottom, those who can least afford to lose the tiny bit of aid they were receiving to stay alive. But to these angry bigots who already despise those who don't look like they or believe like they do, they couldn't care less that others are suffering from the incompetent leader they elected, they got what they wanted, revenge!...
That was the former Attorney General of the United States words - I attributed the words to Trump to prove a point of the blindness that the blame game represents ….
Holders words were justified away, as not being what he meant .. don't do anything illegal etc etc … one is suppose to denounce the President and his supporters while ignoring and supporting the actions like shouting down people in a restaurant for political reasons.. ?
There is no moral high ground for either party to stand on - they are racing each other to the bottom...!
WOW! Okay … How does one go outside each day when the sky is falling in chunks like that .. ?
The 'all inclusive big tent' actually views their fellow American's in this way, and that is what got Trump elected .. not because individuals/bigots/racists that felt left behind and marginalized came together and voted... the left screams about bigotry and racism ad nauseam until their meanings are skewed ..
.. r.t..b… said it best..
Whose going to tell the left to stop making Trump and every conservative around (whether they support Trump or not) the boogieman? The left needs to put their own house in order.
ABSOLUTELY! 100% agreement. and the real strange thing is when they find out who it was, the top issue they are going to want answers to is which political side he/she is on.....
Sad, sick and sad....
Sorry, I missed that.
If that were the case then why didn't he send them to candidates who support Trump instead, it makes no sense to send them to the Democrats that have been targeted, unless the person who sent them is indeed a Trump supporter.
Actually, yes, they did. The election results show that, even though Trump won, he lost the popular vote by 3 million voters and, Obama's popularity is still high in spite of what the Right did and, has continued to do to vilify him.
Or vice versa
Can you name one rally or, one tweet where Trump in some way or, fashion has not named the "Left" for all the ills, perceived or, real, that people are suffering today? Or, any rally or, tweet where he didn't name at least one person on the list I provided for the same ills?
Wait! I thought y'all didn't like the " what about... " and the "but, but, but" arguements .
Oh right! You only don't like them when they are not being used by you.
Soooo, I take it you can't answer the question, got it. Moving on.
Got attacked like vultures? That's silly. I saw no such thing. I'd love to see quotes of how you were attacked. All I saw was people disagreeing with you or questioning you.
If they run around protesting things hysterically enough, they can manage to keep the sky in place. Barely.
But if they ever stop the hysteria, we're all doomed. Their "feelings" are the only thing between us and the end of the world.
Perhaps they just represent those who castigate Trump. I'm one of the few people on this site who can correctly say "He is not my president", and in my lifetime I have never encountered ANY POTUS who has had to withstand the extreme and abundant criticism that he receives, whether it be LBJ or Carter or Nixon or any others.
No I won't run along dear. This is a public forum and I haven't violated the COC so you can run along dear
Yup, What a Woman!
And, IMO, it is well deserved.
I can't wait to see the election results in November - it will tell the story about how Americans REALLY feel.
Please do me a favor? Don't feed the trolls, okay? If you ignore them, they go away eventually and generally their input is childish and easy to ignore.
Very true. As soon as they find their article not going their way and catching too much heat they close or delete it.
This is more than likely the work of one lone deranged individual committing these vile and reprehensible acts along the lines of Ted Kaczynski.The far majority of both conservative and leftists deplore these actions. But sadly, there are those on the progressive left who will seize on this to demonize and tar all on the right with the same brush simply because they are right leaning and do not agree with their viewpoints. I have no doubts that if the recipients had been conservative, the reverse would have happened by the extreme right wingers. Both sides have more than their share of lunatic fringes capable of doing things like this.
What's interesting is that these may not be explosive devices at all. Combine that with the timing of all this and this is a real strange case.
That's not so different than those mailed envelopes with white powder being identified as containing something harmless, like flour.
Yup, That's the point. This was not done to harm. That leads to more questions on motivation
I wonder if anyone is thinking about how easy it would be for a foreign agent to do this. I can imagine certain countries coming up with a scheme like this. A seemingly easy way to stir up an already volatile political situation.
LOL. Leave it to you to come up with a draconian suggestion.
'that Trump is not the Boogieman either'
But he is the Boogieman
Have not seen that one yet. Will have to check it out.
Put aside the rhetoric, Sending bombs is WRONG! anyone who does such should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....
that being said, take a look at the package being shown on the article heading.... the package that was "Mailed" to CNN....
Notice something strange about that package?
Here lets get a bigger picture....
Does anyone notice the obvious issue with a package that was "Mailed" to CNN?
Where is the stamp cancellation? if it was "Mailed" through the US postal service the stamps would be canceled... If it was delivered to them by a delivery service it would have their barcode labels all over it...
All that is being said is that it was delivered.....
BY WHOM?
Something is fishy here..........
Very fishy. There are cameras at the Time-Warner building. A film combined with these packages all with the same outer packaging and containing the harmless "pipe bombs" should leave plenty of evidence for all these investigative agencies. The fact that they don't have this person already is mind boggling. Either this person is the luckiest moron alive or he is a genius.
Nothing fishy here, the people at CNN who received this said it was carried in to the offices by someone and, left, it didn't come with the regular mail.
And there are cameras everywhere. Shouldn't they have a film of this individual? They say only John Brennan entered at that time.....OH WAIT! OMG!
No stamp cancellations? Perhaps a postal employee who placed it directly in outgoing mail?
Guess that's how three other packages with no stamp cancellation arrived across the country on the same day, the day after they were supposedly mailed?????
Fortunately, it seems like whoever is making these things isn't very good at it.
Since this "mad bomber" is attacking people who have pissed off The Donald, why doesn't Trump plead with the whacko to stop before someone gets hurt?
Who pleaded with the Unabomber all those years? Try looking at this logically. In what way would bombs being delivered to the President's detractors? Wit the mid-terms like 2 weeks away? Who would benefit electorally form that, do you tihnk? Democrats or Republicans? Who would be more motivated to go and vote?
If you can be honest with yourself and others, you might question your statement.
That occurs every day now, as long as there are social justice ultra-PC warriors and the SPLC around.
How does that MeMe read? When suddenyl a story grabs all the media, look for what they don't want you to notice.....
Doesn't seem like any of the bombs were operational.
Fake bombs
Interesting.
Wouldn't it be just peachy if the bombers turned out to be affiliated with the democrats in any way?
It has to be more than one person, they were placed from NY to CA and all within 24 hours of each other....
Shaping up to be some kinda whacko plan to effect the election.........
All that is left to find is the cloak and dagger...
I have my own theories as to who it is and, I'll wait until they are found.
Yep, it does, it also seems that the investigators are looking at Southern Florida right now, it seems that most of the packages came from there.
Gosh, ya think!
I think I found them,
Maybe here:
I'm sure the conservatives on this site wouldn't have even bothered to reply if after the Vegas shooting one of the liberals here had posted "Wouldn't it be just peachy if the gunman turned out to be affiliated with the Republicans in any way?"...
Why not, just once, hope neither party is involved in any way, why not hope the best until we know otherwise? Let's all agree to agree that pipe bombs or any sort of violence is unacceptable and never the way to advance a political position or opposition in a peaceful society. No matter how right your cause might have been before you use violence, once you cross that line you're now the criminal, you're what is to be feared, you're the terrorist and no better than any other terrorist of the past from the 9/11 attackers to the Isis Jihadists beheading innocent civilians.
So let's hope neither party or any of their supporters have members who would mail indiscriminate weapons of mass destruction through our mail system putting countless people at risk of losing their lives, putting countless family members at risk of losing a parent or a child, people who have nothing to do with any political bickering. Some ephemeral political "win" from pinning this act on some party affiliation will only further push our nation towards an unnecessary violent internal conflict. I, for one, want my two daughters to learn about the civil war in school, I don't want them to have to experience such horror first hand.
Put ball bearings, glass or, nails in with the powder and, it does become a weapon of mass destruction.
I heard there was glass in at least one of the pipe bombs
Um-hum, but glass dosen't mean much, nor does the bomb itself, if its not enabled to explode. I doubt that these devices were real bombs
Ok, smart ass here ya go. I think its White Nationalist's who are doing this, they've done it before and, they support Trump.
In order for them to be "real bombs" all they need is a timer and, explosive material of some kind, look at the picture of them,
And something to TRIGGER them. None of these have gone off. Why do you think?
A mistake in the assembly is what the experts are saying, they won't say what that mistake was but, that is what they are saying after looking at how they were made.
That is not what I'm hearing. Some say the intent was more to panic than to harm. Does that seem possible to you?
As I said, put glass, nails or, ball bearings in it, it then becomes a weapon of mass destruction.
Yes, one would, if one knew what the hell they were doing and, they weren't a fruitcake who could only afford plastic pipe from a home project, however, as I said somewhere on here the experts don't believe this person knew what they were doing since the bombs didn't go off but, had everything they needed to make it happen. Those same experts, the people looking at the bombs and, how they were made have said that there were mistakes made in the making of the bombs, I'm sure one of those was the use of plastic pipe. It could also be that the bomb maker thought they might have to go through metal detectors and, that is why he used plastic and, put glass in one of them that we know of.
True, But if someone didn't know any better perhaps they thought metal or steal would be easier to detect than glass.
I have no idea and I'll wait for the experts but that pooped t mind seeing your post.
If all that is true, they better catch this guy quick or he will take their advice and build one right. I doubt it though. I think if I found one of these distinctly marked packages with the 6 stamps and return address to Debbie Schultz, I would carry it over to the nearest PD
Ok,
Good for you.
The bombs, which one expert says may be the biggest clues, have been described by officials as pipe bombs, a type of bomb in which explosive material is packed into a pipe. The bombs seized Wednesday, each with a small battery, were about 6 inches long and included broken glass, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press after viewing X-ray images. The official said the devices were made from PVC pipe and covered with black tape.
The news can be your friend, if you read it.
I think I would call them to come to were I found it instead, ya never know, he might not have made a mistake with that one.
The FBI.
He's 0 for 9. He's even beyond Viagra.
This is no mistake
I wish I could read the article, but I'm not about to subscribe to the Globe.
Would someone from Florida spell Florida as "Florids" and not make any other spelling errors? But then it could have been intentional in order to distance themselves from being Florida residents.
Strange, I didn't have to subscribe and, I could read it just fine.
You have a point there, but then again he made so many mistakes. He misspelled Brennan and sent that one to CNN. Brennan works for NBC. He misspelled Schultz on all the return addresses. It goes on and on. And what about the envelopes - they are all made up exactly the same, the last one picked right out of the PO. He would have to alter his MO soon or suddenly disappear.
They allow a certain amount free. I exhausted my free readings long ago
Here let me help,
Then there is a picture of the bomb sent to CNN,
All of that Iv'e already heard. What I have not heard is the claim you made about this person making "mistakes" on bomb construction. Where can I read that?
if I was from florida I would not admit it either... LOL
I've hit s when I was meaning to hit a before and, that wasn't the only spelling error, he misspelled Wasserman-Schultz as Wasserman-Shultz put simply, I don't this guy was the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
Hell, now I can't find a direct quote like I heard but, I won't retract what I said, I know I heard it yesterday and, today, I just can't find it so, you'll have to wait for it.
.....LOL
I kinda agree, I lived there for 17 years loved it, except for the hurricanes. I got out while I could take everything I worked for my whole life with me. (I wasn't the kind to sit on a pile of my life's ruble left working and waiting for material and labor to rebuild.) So, I left.
Hurricane Floyd was a close call... I saw Homestead after their's !!! That was my hints !!! And eye openers !!!
I Loved Florida otherwise !
Seeing this kind of view in person makes you think... WTF am I doing living here ?
i was there for andrew...
built a few doezen condos and around 8 custom homes in a place called lely barefoot beach in bonita springs... one of the homes I built made the cover of better homes and gardens
when andrew hit I sent half my crew to homestead and we rebuilt about 40 homes there
as soon as the text loads hit the STOP loading button with a swiftness
they did not put the timing script in the page header so if you are quick you can keep the timer from even loading.
I timed out on that site yrs ago.... never miss an article
and of course.... last resort = view the article thru google cache
cheers
Isn't this the very first comment I made in my seed here?
Cool. Hope ya built it strong, sooner or later it too will probably be tested.
Loved Fl but I'm over it.
Why would a mail bomb require a timer? Common sense says that a mail bomb would be set up to detonate upon opening, a timer device is set to go off at a specific time, right? How would anyone know precisely when a package would be delivered, since you have to set the timer before you put the device in a package?
Also, stop calling people names on my seeds.
already has, several times.
after coming back to texas I still would use floridas windstorm codes in all my projects.
my inspections were very easy as result. I have never seen a red card in my life.
so much metal in those buildings the inspectors had to wear sunglasses... LOL
every building I have ever built is still there including the one I'm in now.
this one has seen 3 hurricanes in its lifetime.
the most recent was harvey a year ago - direct hit, not a scratch
Wonderfull. All construction in Florida should be that way. Eventually it may be, once its destroyed and rebuilt.
prior to andrew the windstrom codes where weak in florida. after andrew they lead the country.
but that was not really the problem in homestead.
(framing) lack of perlins, gable braces, and rat runs, lead to that mess.
(got approved) by corrupt inspectors taking money from corrupt builders.
After seeing what was left I don't doubt it. Nothing taller tan a car for as far as he eye could see, that was enough for me. That was the day I knew I had to get the Hell out of Florida.
6 years later, I did. lol
What we're going to find out is that a) it's a stupid conservative that doesn't know how to use the Interweb's, b) it's a stupid progressive trying to outrage before the midterms or c) it's just a stupid person clamoring for the attention. Which do you think it is?
At this point, D: One or more currently over stimulated radical(s) nut job(s) from either ideology.
Pretty safe bet eh ?
LOL
Time hopefully will tell.
More than likely, at this point, it's ideology driven in some way even if it's anarchist. Whom btw seem to love bombs. "Time will tell" Definitely, if LE can't track down someone who uses the USPS to deliver bombs in this day and age then we're all at great risk.
Yep, but I would imagine we learned a great deal from the past. I have a feeling we'll know and and a arrest or arrests will be made soon. Probably before the election is over if possible.
I have my ballot sitting here now. What timing heh ?
I believe these creeps politics are going to be manifest, if they are liberal creeps hoping to get sympathy for democrats, the blue wave will sink into a sewer sump.
If they are republican creeps, then the blue waves become tidal waves...
Someone is making an attempt at forcing the electorate's hands.
It is all about the ballots in the hands of voters...
I have my ballot sitting here now. What timing heh ?
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Yep for sure.
For myself, I dont know which side its come from, dont really care a great deal and I usually try not to give much credence to either ideologies radical nut jobs, verbal or violent.
I kinda hope they dont find out till after the election who did this and from which idoligy its from, Either way wont change my votes I vote for the people not the party but not everyone does.
IF this does change votes, it gives this POWER.
Giving violence power isn't probably the best thing to do IMO.
I'm with you on this, Steve.
They just found another one, it was sent to Cory Booker.
Spartacus never likes being left out.......
The guy they arrested has shit for brains. He's been reported as being a registered Republican and extreme Trump supporter. I say he has no brains because even if he had not been caught he has damaged the Republican chances in the midterms - he might have fucked his own party.
Agree wholeheartedly!
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Okay, then I'm a mindless knucklehead because I said, due to the apparently obvious timing of this incident just before the midterms, that there was the POSSIBILITY of it being a false flag operation, PROVIDED Nowhere Man's POSSIBLE explanation was correct .
Thank you JBB.
Why not own it? Wear that self pity and false grace with pridefulness...
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Who said it was a big joke? Did I? deleted
By the way, are you one of the ones who has been bitching about excessive censorship on NT?
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No, I complain of too much anti-American propaganda on NT...