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AOC: Our side doesn’t name-call like those xenophobic, white supremacists on the right

  

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AOC: Our side doesn’t name-call like those xenophobic, white supremacists on the right
But AOC’s response to that challenge has to be the funniest and most embarrassing moment of the night. Here’s her explanation for why her crowd is not the “Tea Party of the left.” “We are committed to policies that make American lives better and we’re actually talking about something substantive, we’re not calling anyone names,” AOC said. She continued, “People say ‘Tea Party of the left’ and I find this phrase very interesting…because the grounding of the Tea Party was xenophobia, the...

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MSNBC hosted a town hall event Friday night with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez discussing her Green New Deal. During a discussion in the second segment of the event, former Republican Congressman Bob Inglis suggested the left was in danger of becoming the thing it hated most, i.e. the Tea Party. He politely suggested that the crowd in Brooklyn (where the town hall was held) cheering for AOC was the mirror image of the one at Trump’s recent rally who were cheering “AOC sucks.”

The crowd in Brooklyn didn’t like that comparison and started booing Inglis. To his credit, host Chris Hayes cautioned them, “You guys are making his point when you do that.” But AOC’s response to that challenge has to be the funniest and most embarrassing moment of the night. Here’s her explanation for why her crowd is not the “Tea Party of the left.”

“We are committed to policies that make American lives better and we’re actually talking about something substantive, we’re not calling anyone names,” AOC said. She continued, “People say ‘Tea Party of the left’ and I find this phrase very interesting…because the grounding of the Tea Party was xenophobia, the underpinnings of white supremacy…” After a bit of rambling, she added, “Here’s a really big difference. The Koch Brothers funded the Tea Party and everyday people funded my campaign.” This was met with wild applause.

Chris Hayes did not point out that AOC had just proven Rep. Inglis’s point. Literally one sentence after arguing “we’re not calling anyone names” she called the Tea Party xenophobic, white supremacist, and puppets for billionaires. Her entire answer was shrill name calling and the crowd’s reaction was really applause for themselves. They’re better people than those deplorables who call people names.

Capitalism is the Problem

Later in the same segment, Inglis challenged AOC with the idea that it was better to hold off on some of the social justice elements of the GND in order to focus on the climate change piece. AOC rejected that saying that everything had to be done all at once or else nothing would get done.

“Here’s the deal…we could solve all of the environmental issues in the world,” she said. She continued, “If those climate policies and solutions are drafted onto the existing framework of economic injustice then we will perpetuate our social problems.

“The yellow vests in France are a perfect example of what happens when you do not address economic and social justice in the same sweep as climate policy. Because what happens is that a) the policy becomes unsustainable, b) society starts to fall apart which is what happens in income inequality and then c) we don’t actually solve the environmental issue.”

There’s a lot to unpack in those sentences but here’s the Cliff’s Notes version: Free market capitalism is not compatible with the Green New Deal. When the GND was first released I wrote a post headlined, “The Green New Deal Is About Saving The Planet By Ending Capitalism.” Here’s some of  what it said :


There’s a skeleton key of sorts that makes sense of this odd leftist wish list. It’s called capitalism. Really, making sense of this jumble of a proposal is that simple.

The reason much of the document seems to be aimed at rearranging the economy far beyond the already extreme measures that would be required to fight climate change is, I believe, that AOC sees capitalism as the root of the problem. And if capitalism is the root, then it’s not enough to cut emissions or install more solar panels. What you need is to end capitalism by reducing air travel, giving jobs to people even if they won’t work, guarantee free health care, free college, affordable (government subsidized?) housing, and using whatever’s left to repair historic oppression. Because if you do all of that, there is no capitalism left…

The secret of the Green New Deal is not that it’s an odd grab bag of unrelated priorities, but that it’s an even more extreme proposal than it appears to be. This isn’t a plan to save the planet, it’s a plan to save the planet by ending capitalism.

If asked, I’m certain AOC would deny this. But I don’t think her ambition can be reconciled with the system we have now where people own things and are more or less free to run them as they see fit. There is no way to do the things AOC wants to do and leave much of that system in the hands of other people. To achieve what she wants, she needs to control much more that the free market would allow.

Earlier in the program, AOC said this: “Our issues and our economic issues are systemic and they are not an accident. They are the result of an economic system that enriches the few in enormous amount at the cost of the working class and middle class.” A bit later she added, “A lot of what the Green New Deal is is shifting our political, economic, and social paradigm on every issue.” The fact that the people cheering for this are the same people moaning about President Trump altering our “norms” is the chef’s kiss of hypocrisy.

She’s really not being shy about what she wants here. The current economic system is, in her view, unfair and is taking something from the working and middle class. This is the analysis you would expect from Democratic Socialism. The underlying idea is that the state can and should arrange these things better than private interests are currently doing. It’s a very old delusion at this point but one that keeps cropping up every generation.

AOC’s claim to be able to solve all the world’s problems at once is laughable. What’s not funny is the cheering and applause from the crowd of people who seem eager to believe her. The idea that a group of people in Brooklyn know how to address our farm policy should give everyone chills. This has been tried before and has not worked out well.

Here’s the clip queued up to the part about the Tea Party. The bit about the “existing framework of economic injustice” comes a bit later in this same clip.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

“If asked, I’m certain AOC would deny this. But I don’t think her ambition can be reconciled with the system we have now where people own things and are more or less free to run them as they see fit. There is no way to do the things AOC wants to do and leave much of that system in the hands of other people. To achieve what she wants, she needs to control much more that the free market would allow.

Earlier in the program, AOC said this: “Our issues and our economic issues are systemic and they are not an accident. They are the result of an economic system that enriches the few in enormous amount at the cost of the working class and middle class.” A bit later she added, “A lot of what the Green New Deal is is shifting our political, economic, and social paradigm on every issue.” The fact that the people cheering for this are the same people moaning about President Trump altering our “norms” is the chef’s kiss of hypocrisy.

She’s really not being shy about what she wants here. The current economic system is, in her view, unfair and is taking something from the working and middle class. This is the analysis you would expect from Democratic Socialism. The underlying idea is that the state can and should arrange these things better than private interests are currently doing. It’s a very old delusion at this point but one that keeps cropping up every generation.

AOC’s claim to be able to solve all the world’s problems at once is laughable. What’s not funny is the cheering and applause from the crowd of people who seem eager to believe her. The idea that a group of people in Brooklyn know how to address our farm policy should give everyone chills.”   https://youtu.be/Mg5d6Mz_luI

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

She's a comic too!    Her "side" is noted for calling people names, harassment & violence.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

Hypocrite, thy name is AOC!!!jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2  Sparty On    5 years ago

I for one don't doubt that she's sincere.  

Its just that her problem is her naivete is almost childlike in nature.   She's very much like Trump in that she's got NPD big time, just like him.   True believers like her are scary.   They'll do anything to "save" the people.   Including, but not limited to, heavily oppressing them in the name of their cause.

I have a sister in law like her.   She's so right all the time she doesn't realize how wrong she is on a regular basis.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Sparty On @2    5 years ago
They'll do anything to "save" the people.   Including, but not limited to, heavily oppressing them in the name of their cause.

This. 

1000 times this.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

She's a walking joke. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    5 years ago

She learned how to walk? jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif 

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
5  luther28    5 years ago

Our side doesn’t name-call like those xenophobic, white supremacists on the right

One must admit, the statement is rather amusing.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
5.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  luther28 @5    5 years ago

Take a good listen to Omar and Tlaib' s speeches, the freshman Islamist racist tag team and their hateful bigotry. Your side definitely owns them along with AOC! Lots to be proud of there...jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
5.1.1  luther28  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1    5 years ago

My side?

Me thinks you may have presumed too much.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
5.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  luther28 @5.1.1    5 years ago

My apologies. You did not use  parenthesis on your first sentance, thus making it look like it was your comment. I did not pay as much attention as I should have and that was my bad.

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
5.1.3  luther28  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.2    5 years ago

I have to chuckle as I have been accused of being both a Leftist and a Rightist while in fact I am just pragmatic:) If that is the worse thing I am called then I'm ahead of the curve.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  luther28 @5.1.3    5 years ago

If:

The right calls you a lefty when you disagree with them and

The left calls you a righty when you disagree with them ....... you might be a Centrist ....

Here's your sign ....

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
7  Tacos!    5 years ago

There's a lot of crazy in politics.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
9  Buzz of the Orient    5 years ago

"AOC: Our side doesn’t name-call like those xenophobic, white supremacists on the right"

Really?  What about this?  Calling Schumer a "traitor" doesn't count?

"CHUCK SCHUMER CALLED ‘SHM*CK SCHUMER' BY CALI. ARAB-AMERICAN CAUCUS CHAIR

Arab-American Democrat from California slams Senator Chuck Schumer with a Yiddish slur over his alleged loyalty to the ‘fascist Israel lobby.’ "

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
10  bbl-1    5 years ago

My.  The AOC Derangement Syndrome has overwhelmed the right.  Be better if 'the dead right' had just stuck with 'the fluoride scare.'

This too.  AOC is correct.  The right has been wrong for decades.  They do have the Trump though.  Ivanka too.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
11  Texan1211    5 years ago

Everyone on the right should love AOC just as much if not more than the Democrats do.

After all, she will be one cause why so many Republicans get elected.

All we have to do is to tie in every Presidential candidate form the Democrats to her silly NGD.

Nail them for even entertaining such a travesty. Hold their feet to the fire, and make sure people know who came up with the hare-brained plan.

AOC will be what DWS once was to the GOP--a god-send!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
11.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Texan1211 @11    5 years ago
Everyone on the right should love AOC just as much if not more than the Democrats do.

The more she talks, the more I suspect she's on the GOP payroll somehow.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
11.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jack_TX @11.1    5 years ago

Nobody on the GOP payroll could so convincingly say so many stupid and ignorant things that she does and convince everyone she really believes that stuff. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
11.1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  XXJefferson51 @11.1.1    5 years ago
Nobody on the GOP payroll could so convincingly say so many stupid and ignorant things that she does and convince everyone she really believes that stuff. 

I'm remembering more GOP idiots than you are.

Christine O'Donnell for a start.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
11.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jack_TX @11.1.2    5 years ago

Was she on the democrats payroll?  Did they pay her to primary the incumbent and then lose the general election?  Did we fund AOC to knock out Pelosi’s heir apparent?  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
11.1.4  Jack_TX  replied to  XXJefferson51 @11.1.3    5 years ago
Was she on the democrats payroll?

It sure seemed like it at the time.

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
12  volfan    5 years ago

AOC...a mere child in an adult body, and a mental midget. How in the world did she ever graduate from college? Might be the same way Barack Hussein Obama did....jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
12.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  volfan @12    5 years ago

it makes one wonder what that degree is worth considering that she was working in a bar before being elected to Congress.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
13  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

here’s some more entertainment from AOC.

Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez attempted to rewrite history in real time during her Friday night MSNBC town hall event with host Chris Hayes.

As the freshman Democrat waxed on about the time in history when her party was at its strongest — during the Great Depression leading up to World War II — she claimedthat the 22nd Amendment was ratified in order to prevent President Franklin Delano Roosevelt from running again. (RELATED: Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal Is So Urgent That She’s Mad The GOP Wants To Vote On It)  https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dailycaller.com/2019/03/31/ocasio-cortez-fdr-term-limits-msnbc-town-hall

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
13.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @13    5 years ago

Did we amend the constitution to prevent FDR fro running for President in 1948 from the 💀 grave?  

 
 

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