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Trump's Madman Rush To Get Rid Of Health Care For Millions

  

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By:  john-russell  •  6 years ago  •  70 comments

Trump's Madman Rush To Get Rid Of Health Care For Millions
Knowing what we know about Trump, no one in their right mind thinks he has a replacement plan today, or ever will. If there is a replacement plan it will come from someplace other than Trump and his administration.

The "rush" is to solidify his base. Trump knows that the vast majority of his supporters oppose Obamacare , in many cases simply because it recalls the previous president. The election to decide whether or not he will continue in office past 2020 is coming in about 18 months, and Trump wants to get all his "deplorables" into the basket and ready to vote him back in. He can now spend the next year and a half telling rallies that his administration is trying its darnedest to get rid of Obamacare. Because he doesn't have the foggiest idea what might replace it, he has postponed any concrete talk of a replacement until after the election.

Attorney General William Barr told a questioner at a congressional hearing this morning that he has given no thought to the ramifications to the American people if the Justice Dept. efforts to make the ACA illegal are victorious in court. Barr wants to wreck Obamacare simply because Trump told him to. When asked by the questioner what will happen to the millions of people who get their insurance through Obamacare if the program is ended , Barr simply said that he understands that the president has a plan for something that will replace it.

Knowing what we know about Trump, no one in their right mind thinks he has a replacement plan today, or ever will. If there is a replacement plan it will come from someplace other than Trump and his administration.

I have a family member who gets her health insurance through the ACA specifically because she has a pre-existing condition and the ACA prohibits charging people like her more for insurance or denying them coverage altogether. People like her are now put in a worrisome and stress inducing limbo as they watch a court case proceed which could end their health insurance without something in place to replace it. She didnt do anything to deserve this.

Trump doesn't care about the American people, he cares about aggrandizing himself and staying out of jail. Oh, and money for himself.


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    6 years ago

William Barr makes for a good lackey, judging by his performance at a hearing today.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2  It Is ME    6 years ago

"I have a family member who gets her health insurance through the ACA specifically because she has a pre-existing condition and the ACA prohibits charging people like her more for insurance or denying them coverage altogether."

Shoulda had "Health Insurance" before ya got sick then. jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @2    6 years ago

She did. That was a long time ago. The company through which she had health insurance went out of business a few years ago. When buying new insurance she chose an ACA plan for the reasons I gave in the article.

Come up with better points, will you please.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    6 years ago
She did. That was a long time ago.

Your article says nothing of the sort ! jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

Link ?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.1    6 years ago

From around 1990 until 2015 my sister had health insurance through a company.  She was diagnosed with  Multiple Scerlosis in 2001. After she lost the health insurance due to the company closing she chose to get a plan through the ACA because they couldnt deny her for a pre-existing condition and because they didnt charge higher premiums for people with pre-existing conditions.

I didnt see the need to lay all that out in the article.

 
 
 
luther28
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2.2  luther28  replied to  It Is ME @2    6 years ago
"I have a family member who gets her health insurance through the ACA

Sounds as though she did prior to her illness, more of a case of just trying to keep it.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  luther28 @2.2    6 years ago
Sounds as though she did prior to her illness

ACA hasn't been around that long. Since 2010 or 11, or somewhere in those years.

Did the "One" get sick before Obamacare ?

So NO, they DIDN'T have any insurance before then. jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @2.2.1    6 years ago

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It Is ME
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2.2.3  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    6 years ago

removed for context

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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2.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  It Is ME @2    6 years ago

Shoulda had "Health Insurance" before ya got sick then.

I bet you have family members in the same boat.  Are you such an insensitive jackass regarding their situations as well, or do you only feel that way about other people's sick relatives?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.3.1  It Is ME  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.3    6 years ago
I bet you have family members in the same boat.

Nope !

We have all been responsible Citizens FOR our country !

We don't look for "What our Country can do for us" !

We always look FOR "What we can do for our country" !

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.3.3  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @2.3.2    6 years ago

I just explained a portion of what I do. jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.3.5  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @2.3.4    6 years ago
Nothing ?

Actually …. I contributed Something as was explained.

And what have YOU done so far ?

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.3.7  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @2.3.6    6 years ago
Which was NOTHING !

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Again ….. What have you done FOR the country YOU live in ?

 
 
 
Don Overton
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2.4  Don Overton  replied to  It Is ME @2    6 years ago

Don't ever get a major illness IIm because standard insurance doesn't cover it all and you would  pass away trying to pay it all off

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2.4.1  It Is ME  replied to  Don Overton @2.4    6 years ago
Don't ever get a major illness IIm because standard insurance doesn't cover it all and you would  pass away trying to pay it all off

Been there ! Insurance was great !

Saw the paper work on how they got the Hospital to substantial reduce their overall bill too. Kinda makes ya wonder why folks are always going against a company that can actually reduce the overall health costs huh.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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3  livefreeordie    6 years ago

I want the repeal of Obamacare, Medicare, and Medicaid.  The government should not continue to control healthcare decisions 

this has been the ongoing goal by the left to enslave us to the State with their love of Marxist forced collectivism 

 
 
 
Don Overton
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3.3  Don Overton  replied to  livefreeordie @3    6 years ago

How old are you?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

Why do Republicans want people to be vulnerable?  Simple: vulnerable is docile.

Republicans want the proles to stay vulnerable and docile.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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6.3  Ronin2  replied to  Bob Nelson @6    6 years ago

Why do Democrats want people to have a false sense of security?

Most people, even those getting subsidies from the government, cannot afford premiums to get beyond a bronze plan (though to get "cost-sharing reductions you have to get a silver plan). 

When you compare plans in the Marketplace, the plans appear in 4 “metal” categories: Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum. The categories are based on how you and the health plan share the total costs of your care.

Generally speaking, categories with higher premiums (Gold, Platinum) pay more of your total costs of health care. Categories with lower premiums (Bronze, Silver) pay less of your total costs. (But see the exception about Silver plans below.)

So how do you find a category that works for you?

  • If you don’t expect to use regular medical services and don’t take regular prescriptions: You may want a Bronze plan. These plans can have very low monthly premiums, but have high deductibles and pay less of your costs when you need care.
  • If you qualify for "cost-sharing reductions" : Silver plans may offer good value. If you qualify for extra savings ("cost-sharing reductions") your deductible will be lower and you’ll pay less each time you get care. But you get these cost-sharing reductions ONLY if you enroll in Silver plan. If you don’t qualify for extra savings, compare premiums and out-of-pocket costs of Silver and Gold prices to find the right plan for you.
  • If you expect a lot of doctor visits or need regular prescriptions: You may want a Gold plan or Platinum plan. These plans generally have higher monthly premiums but pay more of your costs when you need care.

So, the majority are stuck with plans with very low premiums; but very high deductibles and co-pays. Which is great, so long as you never need to use the insurance. For people living pay check to pay check an unexpected medical expense with a high deductible can still result in bankruptcy. I have heard many on the left claim- just get a loan. What bank is going to loan someone money with a medical condition, that might not be able to continue to work?  Also, while insurance companies cannot drop anyone for medical conditions- they can, and will, drop anyone that misses a premium payment.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6.3.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ronin2 @6.3    6 years ago
Why do Democrats want people to have a false sense of security?

What "false" sense of security are you talking about? Universal health care gives people a genuine sense of security.

Europeans are mystified by the idea that a person might lose everything because of a health problem. They are serene in the knowledge that while they may have a health problem, it would not be compounded by financial ruin.

Why do Republicans not want that serenity for the American people?

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7  bbl-1    6 years ago

Conservatives do not want to end health care.  Rather, in conservative thought, not everybody deserves it.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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9  Sunshine    6 years ago

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