41 shot, 7 fatally, in Chicago Labor Day weekend violence

  
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41 shot, 7 fatally, in Chicago Labor Day weekend violence

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CHICAGO (WLS) -- A violent Labor Day weekend in Chicago has left seven people killed and another 34 wounded.

In the latest shooting,  four men were shot   near the King Drive CTA Green Line station at about 11 p.m. Monday night. All four men are expected to be OK.

Davantae Jackson, 15,  was among the seven people shot and killed. The teen was supposed to be starting high school Tuesday. Instead, his family is making funeral plans.

Family members said Davantae was lured outside early Sunday morning by someone he thought was a friend who then opened fire, shooting and killing him just steps away from his own home.

"They called him and told him to come outside," said Alexis Jackson, the victim's sister. "When they told him to come outside and he was guessing he was going to see his friends," she said. "And they did what they did to him after they called his phone."

The shootings occurred as Chicago police increased patrols during the holiday weekend.

Mayor Lori Lightfoot lashed out against Texas Senator Ted Cruz after his tweet about violence in Chicago over Labor Day weekend.

The Republican Cruz said, "Gun control doesn't work. Look at Chicago. Disarming law-abiding citizens isn't the answer."

Mayor Lightfoot fired back, tweeting "60% of illegal firearms recovered in Chicago come from outside Illinois-mostly from states dominated by coward Republicans like you who refuse to enact commonsense gun legislation. Keep our name out of your mouth. "

About 20 minutes after Jackson was shot and killed, a man was killed and a woman wounded in a shooting at a party in Woodlawn on the South Side.

They were gathered about 2:45 a.m. inside of a residence in the 6100-block of South St. Lawrence Avenue when someone at the party opened fire, police said.

A 27-year-old man suffered numerous gunshot wounds to the body and was taken to the University of Chicago Medical Center where he was pronounced dead, police said.

The medical examiner's office has yet to release the man's identity or details on his death.

The woman, 34, was hit in the foot and took herself to St. Bernard hospital where she is listed in good condition, police said.

About an hour later, a drive-by claimed the life of one man and wounded another in Archer Heights on the Southwest Side.

They were traveling in a vehicle about 3:54 a.m. in the 5100-block of South Pulaski Road when someone fired shots from a passing vehicle, police said.

A man suffered multiple gunshot wounds to the body and was pronounced dead on the scene, police said.

The medical examiner's office hasn't released details on the death.

The other man, 38, was hit in the chest, abdomen, hand and was able to take himself to Mount Sinai Hospital where he is in serious condition, police said.

On Saturday, two men were killed and three more people were wounded after someone unleashed gunfire at a group of people in Englewood on the South Side.

They were on the front porch of a home about 5:51 p.m. in the 7100-block of South Paulina Street when they heard gunfire, Chicago police said.

The two men, 26 and 32, were killed, police said. The 26-year-old was was hit in the chest and pronounced dead at Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn. The 32-year-old was hit in the chest and thigh, police said. He was pronounced dead at the University of Chicago Medical Center.

Three others, a woman and two men, were also wounded in the shooting.

Witnesses told police they did not see who fired the shots, but one told investigators a dark-colored vehicle drove off from the scene, police said.

On Saturday morning, a man was killed and another wounded in a double shooting in Humboldt Park on the West Side.

About 4:43 a.m., they were in the 3200-block of West Le Moyne Street when someone in a vehicle unleashed gunfire, Chicago police said.

Angel Perez, 18, was struck in the chest and taken to Stroger Hospital where he was pronounced dead, police and the Cook County medical examiner's office said. He lived in Logan Square.

The other man, 23, was hit in the buttocks and taken to Norwegian American Hospital in serious condition, authorities said.

In the weekend's earliest reported homicide, a 42-year-old man was killed in a shooting in South Chicago.

Willie Coker was outside with a group of people about 12:22 a.m. in the 8700-block of South Burley Avenue when shots rang out from an unknown direction, police and the medical examiner's office said.

Officers responded to a ShotSpotter alert and found the man unresponsive with multiple gunshot wounds to the chest, police said. He was pronounced dead at the University of Chicago Medical Center.

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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 weeks ago

Just your average weekend.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1    3 weeks ago

Wonder if any of these weekend "celebrations" are considered in the mass shootings index. Nah, hell no.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.1.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1    3 weeks ago

Sadly most don't care about shootings in depressed areas. They read the local news and carry on without much interest.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

According to the Brady group 310 people are shot by guns in the U.S. every day. Maybe 4 or 5 of them are in Chicago.  98+% of all U.S. shootings are not in Chicago. 

Have you ever seeded about gun violence in anyplace but Chicago?  

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.1.3  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
Have you ever seeded about gun violence in anyplace but Chicago?  

Yes, I've seeded Baltimore, but Russia.....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

You have seeded literally dozens of articles about gun violence in Chicago.  Chicago never leads the country in gun murder rates.  ( I think it has happened once or twice in the past 50 years. ) Yet you have seeded dozens of articles about Chicago and virtually none about the cities that actually do have the highest murder rate.  

How do you explain that? 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
1.1.5  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

Can you name another city that will have more people murdered by gun this year than Chicago? There is more to this than percentages. If you have a town with a population of ten and one gets murdered it will have a higher murder rate than Chicago. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.1.6  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
Maybe 4 or 5 of them are in Chicago.

Seems Chicago was working overtime over the holiday weekend, and exceeded 10 per day.

Have you ever seeded about gun violence where you didn't think a right wing extremist did it?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

The majority of gun violence is because of right wing extremists.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.1.8  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    3 weeks ago
Chicago never leads the country in gun murder rates.

That's true. Per capita, it doesn't lead the country in gun murders. Smaller cities like New Orleans have higher per capita rates of gun murders.

However, Chicago does tend to lead the country in absolute numbers of gun murders. Since that's a more dramatic number, it draws more attention. Also, the murder rate spiked rather suddenly in the last few years. That draws attention, as well.

Looking at more of an apples to apples comparison, it does have a higher rate of gun deaths among our largest cities

Chicago’s Murder Rate Is Typical for a Major Metropolis — Until Fatal Shootings Are Factored In

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Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    3 weeks ago
The majority of gun violence is because of right wing extremists

Did you actually type that on a story about shootings in Chicago? Why yes, yes you did.......................

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.10  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    3 weeks ago
The majority of gun violence is because of right wing extremists.  

lmao. I want to see these stats. 

I can guarantee you won't find anything to back that pile.

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XDm9mm
1.1.11  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    3 weeks ago
The majority of gun violence is because of right wing extremists.

Nothing more can be said to that profound statement in rebuttal than:

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and of course this:

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JohnRussell
1.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Dean Moriarty @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

You like raw numbers Dean ?  ok

Out of the 131,000 Americans that are shot every year, 129,000 of them are shot somewhere other than in Chicago. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.13  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

The majority of gun violence in America is by criminals and gang bangers.

You statement is just plain stupid and should be deleted.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.14  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.12    3 weeks ago

And what is your point. Don't you think it is sad that so many blacks are killing other blacks?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.15  KDMichigan  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.13    3 weeks ago
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squiggy
1.1.16  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.12    3 weeks ago
Out of the 131,000 Americans that are shot every year,

That's not a raw number - you cooked the shit out of it.

 
 
 
squiggy
1.1.17  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

"98+% of all U.S. shootings are not in Chicago."

99+% of guns aren't used in crimes.

Have you ever seeded an NRA educational story?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.1.18  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    3 weeks ago
How do you explain that? 

Can you ever discuss the actual topic? I know you are obsessed with all things bf but i am not the topic.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1.1.18    3 weeks ago

Interesting change of heart by our friend John. Why, just yesterday..........

https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/47422/an-american-tennis-player-has-been-fined-10000-for-pointing-his-tennis-racket-like-a-rifle-at-a-us-open-official#cm1150544

We gained 17,000 in just one day...............

Sorry John but.............well you know.

 
 
 
bugsy
1.1.20  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    3 weeks ago
Chicago never leads the country in gun murder rate

Maybe not, I really don't know. However, the chart you posted had the top 10 cities for gun violence led by democrats for many, many years.

Maybe there is a trend there?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.21  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
Maybe 4 or 5 of them are in Chicago.

Or...more accurately...statistically it's between 8 and 11.

That's 3% of the national total for a city far less than 1% of the national population.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

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It Is ME
3  It Is ME    3 weeks ago

They (The Media), never seem to dig deep into what Gun was used in these "Chicago" ..... matters. Probably because it doesn't Really "Matter" in the first place. Only #SomeLivesMatter, depending on the Political Issue being "Pushed" ?jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

The other wild thing about this is....."Liberal Types" NEVER seem to use #Chicagomatters when it comes to their want of "Gun" CONTROL !

Just Weird ! jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1  Jack_TX  replied to  It Is ME @3    3 weeks ago
Only #SomeLivesMatter, depending on the Political Issue being "Pushed" ?

Correct.

If black lives actually mattered we'd do something about this.

Hint:  Actually fixing this has zero to do with gun control.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.1  MUVA  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1    3 weeks ago

You could stop and frisk in high crime areas  but that seem's to work to well.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  MUVA @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
You could stop and frisk in high crime areas  but that seem's to work to well.

At some point you need to break from shining liberal idealism and move to a more pragmatic approach. 

We need to accept that some bastards need to be removed from society.  Rahm Emmanuel has complained loudly about the revolving door that is Chicago's "justice" system.  When you shoot somebody on Friday and you're back on the street on Tuesday, there is very little incentive for you not to repeat the behavior.

We'll also need to accept the fact that our jails are going to swell, often with groups liberals love to feel sorry for.  We will need to hold our resolve and keep them locked up...because the fuckers shoot people if we let them out.

In Chicago, they'll need to think about things like outsourcing that union trash collection or water billing and use the money they save to put more cops on the street in high crime areas.  This will lead to more arrests and more complaining from groups liberals love to feel sorry for, because as much as people like to demand something be done, they change their tune when "something" means incarcerating their son. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1    3 weeks ago
Hint:  Actually fixing this has zero to do with gun control.

Exactly !

 
 
 
JBB
4  JBB    3 weeks ago

If guns were not so easily obtained all Americas could feel less under siege!

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JBB @4    3 weeks ago

I thought the same until I realized we've banned heroin entirely and it's available in every neighborhood in the country even yours.

Maybe we could declare a war on guns.  That always works well.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1    3 weeks ago
I thought the same until I realized we've banned heroin entirely and it's available in every neighborhood in the country even yours.

We've banned sex trafficking, too.  Fortunately, that's working out much bett.........

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1.2  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

Sex trafficking is an epidemic in this country largely due to the refusal to secure our southern border and close cartel trade routes.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1.2    3 weeks ago
Sex trafficking is an epidemic in this country largely due to the refusal to secure our southern border and close cartel trade routes.

Meh.  If you say so.

I hear a lot about the amount of smuggling done across the Mexican border.  I have to tell you, I lived in South Florida during the 1980s.  Long before we had drugs coming in from Mexico, we had them coming in from Columbia across a shark-infested barrier 1000x more effective than any concrete wall.

Point being, we will not be able to eliminate any kind of trafficking by "securing our southern border".

If we want to eliminate trafficking, we simply need to use our weapons of mass destruction.....Walmart and Amazon.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @4    3 weeks ago

If guns were banned, only criminals would have guns.

 
 
 
squiggy
4.3  squiggy  replied to  JBB @4    3 weeks ago

Prohibition.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4.5  KDMichigan  replied to  JBB @4    2 weeks ago

What is the difference between the two?

Why do the left have so much faux rage over one and avoid discussing the other? 

Do you know?

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Tacos!
5  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

It didn't happen all at once and wasn't perpetrated by some crazy white guy, so there will be no national coverage, no cries for legislation, no blaming of the president, no need for a national conversation. In fact, if we could just not mention it at all, that'd be great.

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It Is ME
6  It Is ME    3 weeks ago

There was a "Mass Fire " off California, that killed 25 people quickly.

At least Boating requires "Registration", no matter where you buy the boat. jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.1  Tacos!  replied to  It Is ME @6    3 weeks ago

We need better boat control.

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Tacos! @6.1    3 weeks ago
We need better boat control.

Damn "Registered/Lisc." Boat ...… "Mass" Fires !

 
 
 
Jack_TX
6.1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Tacos! @6.1    3 weeks ago
We need better boat control.

Including banning high capacity boats....

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Jack_TX @6.1.2    3 weeks ago
Including banning high capacity boats....

5 or more is waaaaaaaaaaay to much !

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.3    3 weeks ago

Chicago mayor slams ‘Republican cowards’ like Ted Cruz over gun laws

Published: Sept 4, 2019 7:43 a.m. ET

Critics regularly argue Chicago is proof that strict gun laws can’t work, but they’re misrepresenting the facts, says Mayor Lori Lightfoot

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Mayor Lori Lightfoot.
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What about Chicago?

If you’ve tuned into talk radio, chances are good you’ve heard the host or the guest (or both) deflect calls for increased gun control by pointing to Chicago as some sort of crime-ridden wasteland where disarming law-abiding citizens has directly led to a spike in shooting deaths.

Well, Ted Cruz, who once showed his love of guns by using an assault-style rifle to cook bacon, tweeted Monday that “Gun control doesn’t work. Look at Chicago” after Breitbart News reported that 25 people were shot in the “Democrat-controlled” city over the long holiday weekend.

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot fired back:

‘Keep our name out of your mouth.’

She deployed the chart below to show that 60% of illegal firearms recovered in Chicago come from outside Illinois — “mostly from states dominated by coward Republicans like you who refuse to enact commonsense gun legislation.” (What’s more, NPR and other fact checkers have rated as false the claim that Chicago’s gun laws are the country’s strictest, particularly after the Supreme Court in 2008 effectively struck down a municipal ban on handguns. A city gun-registry program in effect for decades ended with the 2013 enactment in Illinois of a state law allowing concealed carry.)

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She wasn’t finished, either:

Lightfoot, inaugurated on May 20 as successor to Rahm Emanuel, has called for stricter gun laws in response to the recent mass shootings across the country, and this isn’t the first time she’s gotten into a Twitter TWTR, +1.91% tangle in defense of her city. Last month, she took the fight to Ivanka Trump over a tweet following the El Paso and Dayton shootings whose grammatical construction rendered it highly inaccurate.

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.4    3 weeks ago
She deployed the chart below to show that 60% of illegal firearms recovered in Chicago come from outside Illinois

Sounds like her, and other "Liberal" rulers "Enforcement" of a gun free zone in Chicago…… really does suck ! 

That didn't paint her in a good light Tessylo. She just "PROVED" ..... UBER GUN LAWS DON'T REALLY WORK as intended !jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.5    3 weeks ago

Nope.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.7  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.6    3 weeks ago
Nope.

Nope ….. What ? jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jack_TX
6.1.8  Jack_TX  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.3    3 weeks ago
5 or more is waaaaaaaaaaay to much !

Nobody "needs" a boat for more than 5 people.

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.9  It Is ME  replied to  Jack_TX @6.1.8    3 weeks ago
Nobody "needs" a boat for more than 5 people.

I agree ! 

Time for MORE regulation !

 
 
 
Jack_TX
6.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.9    2 weeks ago
I agree !  Time for MORE regulation !

Think about the tragedies we could have prevented with more regulation.

The SS Minnow, for example.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.11  It Is ME  replied to  Jack_TX @6.1.10    2 weeks ago
The SS Minnow, for example.

More regulation would allow the castaways to sue the maker "Chris Craft" too !

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.12  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.4    2 weeks ago

Why are you posting this? 

What does it have to do with It Is Me comment?

Here lets just post anything...

Israeli scientists just did a study that proves that sitting on your fat ass actually makes your fat ass fatter. They noticed that paraplegics and other people bound to wheelchairs and beds were developing fat cells in the muscle groups where they were sitting or lying. https://gawker.com/5865098/sitting-actually-makes-your-fat-ass-fatter

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1.13  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.12    2 weeks ago

Al Sharpton is now the mayor of Chicago?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.14  KDMichigan  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.1.13    2 weeks ago

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KDMichigan
6.1.15  KDMichigan  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.1.13    2 weeks ago

[delete]

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @6    3 weeks ago

What do mass fires, boating registration, have to do with guns?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    3 weeks ago

That it went right over your head is not surprising.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.2.2  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    3 weeks ago
What do mass fires, boating registration, have to do with guns?

Absolutely nothing. But I'll help you out here. I think he was referencing  the hypocrisy of the left to be outraged by one death and total lack of concern for the other because it doesn't meet their talking points.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.2.3  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    3 weeks ago
What do mass fires, boating registration, have to do with guns?

No matter what one is required to do....It's always the "USERS ERROR" that causes a problem anyway.

Did that help ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  KDMichigan @6.2.2    3 weeks ago

The day I need your help, I'll let you know, which is never.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.1    3 weeks ago

Nothing he says ever goes over my head.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.2.6  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.5    3 weeks ago
Nothing he says ever goes over my head.  

Then why the question ?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.2.7  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.4    3 weeks ago
The day I need your help, I'll let you know, which is never.  

Obviously from your comment you did. You're welcome.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.2    3 weeks ago

As they say in Russia: ооо мессед it

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Citizen Kane-473667
7  Citizen Kane-473667    3 weeks ago
On Saturday, two men were killed and three more people were wounded after someone unleashed gunfire at a group of people in Englewood on the South Side.

According to FBI definitions this is a "mass shooting". Where is all the news coverage??? Where is the faux outrage???

Guess it doesn't fit the narrative...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago

I was in Chicago once in my life, for a weekend around 60 years ago. Maybe I was lucky to escape alive. Had a great steak dinner there though - if I recall it was a famous steak house with an Irish name.

 
 
 
Citizen Kane-473667
8.1  Citizen Kane-473667  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8    3 weeks ago

McCormick and Schmicks?

I've eaten there every Thanksgiving when I'm in town for business. They have an awesome Turkey Dinner they serve on that day!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Citizen Kane-473667 @8.1    3 weeks ago

No, remember this was 6 decades ago, and I think the name was more like "Shaughnessy's" (a single Irish name).  However, I can't find anything on the internet about it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8    2 weeks ago
Maybe I was lucky to escape alive

Buzz, more people come to visit or do business in Chicago every year than live in the entire country of Canada. Chicago had more than 50 million visitors last year.  It is true that some of them are just there for the day, still they "risk their life" , according to you. It's laughable. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2    2 weeks ago

I love Chicago and visit it as often as possible.

I never fear for my life while there.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2    2 weeks ago

Never mind just Chicago, I never intend to step foot in the USA again.  I really don't think I want to be in a country where the people panic when they hear a backfire.

It's a pity, because not only have I over my lifetime travelled extensively throughout the USA, even owned with my brother a golf condo in Florida, but I really loved your country, and there are still places I would have liked to see.

 
 
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