All The Presidents* Men*

  
By:  john-russell  •  3 weeks ago  •  63 comments

All The Presidents* Men*
Trump's corrupt life and personality is infecting his reign of error up and down the line.  The 47% figure will not go down, it will only go up as more Trump lies and efforts to get foreign countries involved in interfering with our elections are exposed. 

Mike Pompeo, U.S. Secretary of State, who is said to lust after the White House circa 2024, was listening in on the infamous Trump phone call to the Ukranian president in which the president* of the United States asked that foreign government to investigate Trump's main political rival in next year's election.  Pompeo then did a bamboozling move when asked directly about his knowledge of the phone call by a tv news interviewer. He ignored a direct question about his involvement and instead talked about something else, which is tantamount to a lie. 

William Barr is reported this morning to have been asking foreign leaders and foreign governments for information or help in 'investigating' the conspiracy theory that the origins of the Mueller investigation were tainted by 'deep state' motives. 

Rudy Giuliani, aka Trump's new Roy Cohn, aka Trump's "fixer", has spent countless days and hours trying to muscle foreign leaders into conducting witch hunts of Joe Biden, then lies buffoonishly about his activities on myriad cable news programs. Giuliani's main role is to try and confuse the American voter with constant convoluted streams of discredited nonsense. 

All The President's *  Men* 

A new CNN poll indicates almost half of Americans support Trump's removal from office NOW.     aka ASAP

Trump's corrupt life and personality is infecting his reign of error up and down the line. 

The 47% figure will not go down, it will only go up as more Trump lies and efforts to get foreign countries involved in interfering with our elections are exposed. 

Expect growing rumors that Trump will not be the GOP nominee next November. 

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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

How is Trump going to win an election when 47% of Americans think he should be removed from office TODAY ?

Once people come to their senses about Trump they dont backslide. 

 
 
 
squiggy
1.1  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

That’s down from yesterday’s 57%. Thanks for the news.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  squiggy @1.1    3 weeks ago

I think it's fair to say that you dont understand what I am talking about. 

The 57% referred to support for an impeachment inquiry.  The 47% today is people deciding he is guilty as hell and needs to be removed from office. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  squiggy @1.1    3 weeks ago

The shitstain in chief never had approval above 50% so as usual you're talking nonsense squiggy.

Aw geez!

 
 
 
WallyW
1.1.3  WallyW  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

His approval ratings are way better than his opponents   

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  WallyW @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

Of course you have the proof to back that up?

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XDm9mm
1.1.5  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    3 weeks ago
Of course you have the proof to back that up?

Seek and ye shall find.

Ballotpedia's Polling Index: Congressional approval rating

Ballotpedia's congressional approval polling average: 18% (October 1, 2019)
 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

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XDm9mm
1.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    3 weeks ago
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That's ok.  I provided the information to save WallyW the time.

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Tessylo
1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

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XDm9mm
1.1.9  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.8    3 weeks ago

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squiggy
1.1.10  squiggy  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

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Tessylo
1.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

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XDm9mm
1.1.12  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.11    3 weeks ago

That's it.  Let emojis's do your talking for you.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.13  Dulay  replied to  WallyW @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

Perhaps approval ratings would be relevant if the topic wasn't Impeachment. 

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.14  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.5    3 weeks ago
Seek and ye shall find. Ballotpedia's Polling Index: Congressional approval rating

So your posit is that Trump's opponents are the ENTIRE Congress.

That doesn't bode well for Trump's chances to stave off Impeachment. 

 
 
 
squiggy
1.1.15  squiggy  replied to  Dulay @1.1.13    3 weeks ago

If you were to read this diligently, you’d conclude that responses to ‘approval’ hinge on the misunderstanding at 1.1.2, BTMFW.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.16  Dulay  replied to  squiggy @1.1.15    3 weeks ago

I didn't misunderstand 1.1.2. 

 
 
 
squiggy
1.1.17  squiggy  replied to  Dulay @1.1.16    3 weeks ago

“I didn't misunderstand 1.1.2.”

Obviously, from context, you didn’t understand what happened there because you went on to blame Wallyw for bringing up ‘approval’, BTMFGDW.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

I wouldn't be that confident in a poll based on landline and cellular telephone interviews of 1,009 adults.

The real test for those who want the President's removal will be congressional bipartisan support. The title of your article alludes to the Nixon impeachment inquiry. Do you remember that?  Both democrats and Republicans were united in calling for impeachment. They were somber & deliberate about the process, not racing for a "hail Mary" pass that gets them a miraculous removal of the President. Make no mistake, impeachment without conviction will be a disaster for democrats. Your'e gonna need it all now. So, I ask you - How far are you from the bipartisan congress that was ready to oust Richard Nixon?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.2.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    3 weeks ago
How far are you from the bipartisan congress that was ready to oust Richard Nixon?

Good question. Nixon would have survived had not the GOP at the time seen the hand writing on the wall. Trump will be impeached by the House and will not be convicted by the Senate unless the GOP sees it as deleterious to remaining control of the Senate. Only time will tell if that is the case...and if so, the fall will be quick just as it was for Nixon. If not, the 2020 election will take place with an incumbent saddled with an impeachment on his resume. The results of such an unprecedented situation will define how this country moves forward in regard to the powers of the Executive branch vis-a-vis the oversight responsibilities of the Legislative. Of course, this may ultimately rest in the hands of the Judicial. Again, only time will tell.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

Impeachment is always a procedure that neutralizes an election. It should always be a last resort, not an impulse.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

It's not an impulse for fucks' sake.  

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2.4  WallyW  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

If the Republicans retain the Senate, and regain the House, both of which are likely.....

the Democrats will toothless and out of favor for a long time

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.3    3 weeks ago

I can tell just by the way you speak of it

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.2.6  r.t..b...  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    3 weeks ago
Impeachment is always a procedure that neutralizes an election. It should always be a last resort

Impeachment should be a last resort. But a necessary function if the infractions merit it...infractions perpetrated while in office and separate from the the election itself, otherwise it diminishes its' entire intent. We shall see if this instance rises to the levels as outlined in our Constitution, but the evidence certainly seems to warrant the investigation. If truly innocent, trump, his Party, and his supporters should welcome it. If duly found malfeasant, trump, his Party, and his supporters should accept it. Nixon did so in his time, less confident of this fellow should it come to pass.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.6    3 weeks ago
But a necessary function if the infractions merit it..

Did they merit it in the two that actually took place?


If duly found malfeasant, trump, his Party, and his supporters should accept it.

And if they are frivolous the American people should turn democrats out of office En masse!

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.5    3 weeks ago

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XDm9mm
1.2.9  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.6    3 weeks ago
Impeachment should be a last resort.

Very true.

However, it was the option of choice by the Democrats even before the man had the opportunity to take the oath of office.   The visceral hatred of Donald Trump by the vast majority of Democrats currently in office and many if not most of their constituents is nearly palpable.  People laughingly speak of Trump Derangement Syndrome and claim there is no such thing.   While there is technically no such thing, simply reading the posts of many here and listening to many of the talking heads representing the main stream media and of course the bell weather of insanity the Hollywood elites, TDS does exist even if not officially diagnosed. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.2.10  r.t..b...  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.7    3 weeks ago
And if they are frivolous the American people should turn democrats out of office En masse!

Exactly why we have elections...the ultimate arbitrator. And maintaining the sanctity of such lies at the heart of this inquiry, something everyone should see as a serious matter with foundational consequences at stake.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.11  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.10    3 weeks ago
And maintaining the sanctity of such lies at the heart of this inquiry, something everyone should see as a serious matter with foundational consequences at stake.

And yet, until now, there was never any serious inquiry into the genesis of the previous attempts at subverting our electoral process and exactly who was complicit in that subversion.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.10    3 weeks ago
something everyone should see as a serious matter with foundational consequences at stake.

I can almost hear the Star Spangled Banner playing in the distance....

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.2.13  r.t..b...  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.11    3 weeks ago
And yet, until now, there was never any serious inquiry into the genesis of the previous attempts at subverting our electoral process and exactly who was complicit in that subversion.

So the failures of the past should deter us from investigating the serious allegations of the present, thus ensuring a future devoid of consequence. A most dangerous hypothesis. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.14  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.13    3 weeks ago
So the failures of the past should deter us from investigating the serious allegations of the present,

Are not the "serious allegations of the present" rooted in the failure to investigate the past?   

If that's not obvious, one truly doesn't want to see the history of the current situation and only delve on what is sitting on the plate immediately in front of yourself.   

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.13    3 weeks ago

It seems this 'president' suffers no consequences whatsoever from his lawlessness.  

I cannot wait until the day he leaves office.  

He won't look so good in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffs.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.16  author  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.9    3 weeks ago

Trump has never, even for one minute, been qualified to be president of the United States. Of course people have vocally opposed him from the beginning. That is what sensible, patriotic people do under the circumstances. 

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2.17  WallyW  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.15    3 weeks ago

You'll have to wait until 2025 when Nikki Haley is sworn in.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.18  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.16    3 weeks ago
Trump has never, even for one minute, been qualified to be president of the United States. Of course people have vocally opposed him from the beginning. That is what sensible, patriotic people do under the circumstances. 

While you're entitled to your opinion, you can't equate that opinion with FACT.  And the facts belie your opinion.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.2.19  r.t..b...  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.14    3 weeks ago
rooted in the failure to investigate the past? 

The failure to do so lies solely on the powers that be at the time. Their timidity to act, for whatever reason, should never be a factor in determining present or future inquiries into serious allegations.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.20  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.16    3 weeks ago

'Trump has never, even for one minute, been qualified to be president of the United States. Of course people have vocally opposed him from the beginning. That is what sensible, patriotic people do under the circumstances.' 

That's what people who have more than two brain cells to rub together do.  

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2.21  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.16    3 weeks ago

Trump has never, even for one minute, been qualified to be president of the United States.

Hogwash, still way more qualified than Obama

 
 
 
squiggy
1.2.22  squiggy  replied to  WallyW @1.2.4    3 weeks ago

Sometimes I see the race as between Trump and Ginsburg. Who can hang the longest?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.23  Tessylo  replied to  WallyW @1.2.21    3 weeks ago
'Hogwash, still way more qualified than Obama'

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XDm9mm
1.2.24  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.20    3 weeks ago
That's what people who have more than two brain cells to rub together do.  

Damn, good plagiarism.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.25  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.19    3 weeks ago
Their timidity to act, for whatever reason, should never be a factor in determining present or future inquiries into serious allegations.

But when their own complicity is the reason for their timidity, it most certainly is.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.18    3 weeks ago

The only 2 things that qualified Donny-Boy for office was that he is a native born citizen and he is well over 35 years of age.

Hell, that qualifies me for the presidency and I'm sure you don't want me running for office

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.27  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.26    3 weeks ago

This whole idea of Trump Derangement Syndrome is laughable nonsense. 

It's like claiming there was a Bernie Madoff Derangement Syndrome or an Alex Jones Derangement Syndrome. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.28  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.26    3 weeks ago
Hell, that qualifies me for the presidency and I'm sure you don't want me running for office

Why not?  Have you developed a platform to run on?   What are you willing to do and accomplish to make this country better for the current and future generations of Americans?   What are you willing to do and accomplish to ensure if not true global peace, at least less conflict and more global cooperation?

So, give it a shot...   who knows, you might even find me to be an ally.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.29  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.18    3 weeks ago
'And the facts belie your opinion.'

What facts?

John is correct.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.30  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.29    3 weeks ago
John is correct. 

And that is YOUR opinion.

As I've often told JR, everyone has an opinion and an asshole.  However, only the asshole is actually useful and viable.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.31  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.30    3 weeks ago

Yawn.  

How do you explain the asshole in chief?  It is neither useful nor viable.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.32  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.31    3 weeks ago
How do you explain the asshole in chief?  It is neither useful nor viable.

I'm sorry for you.  When was the colostomy?

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.33  Dulay  replied to  WallyW @1.2.4    3 weeks ago
the Democrats will toothless and out of favor for a long time

Isn't that what they said after 2016? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.34  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.30    3 weeks ago

I heard you the other 100 times you said it.

YAWN

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.35  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.34    3 weeks ago
I heard you the other 100 times you said it.

And yet its meaning still can't be grasped?

 
 
 
cjcold
1.2.36  cjcold  replied to  WallyW @1.2.4    3 weeks ago

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cjcold
1.2.37  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @1.2.36    3 weeks ago

Anytime you trash a thoughtful liberal you give a far right wing fascist a open door to propagate fascist propaganda.

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.2.38  Tacos!  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2.6    3 weeks ago
If duly found malfeasant, trump, his Party, and his supporters should accept it.

I don't think there's a snowball's chance in Hell that the Senate would convict, but I might have been wrong once before. In any event, I don't think Democrats get to be too demanding about Republicans accepting an outcome in light of what we have seen from Democrats since 2016.

Nixon did so in his time

I wouldn't say he accepted anything. He resigned because it was made clear to him that he would be both impeached and convicted. They gave him a chance to walk away somewhat gracefully and he took it. But a few years later, he was telling David Frost that if the president does something, it can't be illegal.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  author  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
As  MSNBC’s Chris Hayes said  on Monday, “[B]asically what’s happening here is the President putting the full force of the United States, in its foreign policy, and the resources of the Dept of Justice, towards validating a bunch of RT/Infowars nonsense.”

Former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau  put it more bluntly , saying, “The America First crowd is jeopardizing our national security by pressuring foreign governments to help them discredit our intelligence officials and rig our elections.”

This isn’t just about Ukraine, and it doesn’t only involve Trump

Trump’s behavior with respect to Ukraine is criminal enough to warrant impeachment and removal from office. But as this dam continues to break, we are learning that the Ukraine bombshell was just the beginning.

This isn’t just about Ukraine and this doesn’t only involve Donald Trump.

Instead, this appears to be a massive international scheme, stretching from the White House to the Department of Justice to the State Department, to go after this president’s political foes, the U.S. intelligence community and American democracy.

As  Philadelphia Inquirer columnist Will Bunch said  on Monday, “I thought I’d pretty much lost the capacity to be shocked by anything Team Trump does but I have to say I’m flabbergasted by Barr, Pompeo and the highest U.S. officials taking part in a vast international conspiracy to go after Trump’s enemies.”

It’s only a matter of time before more information surfaces about Trump’s discussions with other foreign powers, Russia in particular. But a pattern of behavior is emerging, and any future discussions that come to light are likely to show similarly lawless behavior on the part of the president of the United States.

For those who have been on the right side of history with respect to Donald Trump, it’s been a rough few years. But getting to watch it all fall apart in real-time has been a beautiful thing.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/09/30/trump-barr-pompeo-massive-international-conspiracy.html
 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
2.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago

Obama's speechwriter never says anything I agree with. jrSmiley_50_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.1    3 weeks ago

What a surprise!

 
 
 
freepress
3  freepress    3 weeks ago

They were all just coffee boys. The open attempts to throw each other under the bus is astonishing. Guiliani blaming the State Department people, the State Department returning the volley, and the blame game has begun but it is far more rotten than the idiotic "her e:mails" folly. Go after Ivanka and the family who use private email doing personal and government business without ever being elected or actually appointed to real jobs. They play act at what they think presents a display of doing something but in reality they have hurt their father and America grifting off of their positions and nepotism. They are trying to spin and deflect onto Biden, when they are doing far, far worse.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4  Tessylo    3 weeks ago
Impeachment Briefing: What Happened Today
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    Welcome to the   Impeachment Briefing , a special edition of the Morning Briefing that explains the latest developments in the House impeachment inquiry against President Trump.

    This newsletter will go out in the early evening (Eastern time), though we may tweak that depending on the news. If you’re not interested in receiving the Impeachment Briefing, you can unsubscribe through the link at the bottom of this email, and it won’t affect your regular Morning Briefing subscription.

    Today, we’re going to catch you up on the latest news, and set the stage for the coming days, when the impeachment fight is likely to heat up.

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    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo clashed with House Democrats from Italy, where he and his wife, Susan, arrived for a visit today. Yara Nardi/Reuters

    What happened today

    • The White House and House Democrats   clashed over attempts to interview American diplomats   who are witnesses in the growing Ukraine investigation.   Secretary of State   Mike Pompeo   said the interview request was “an act of intimidation” and did not allow enough time for a proper response.
    • Lawmakers accused Mr. Pompeo of “intimidating department witnesses in order to protect himself and the president,” and argued that blocking the diplomats would obstruct Congress’s work — an action Democrats view as an impeachable offense itself.
    • Given the bombshell news of recent weeks,   this was a relatively small skirmish   — but one that outlines the contours of the growing battle over Congress’s access to witnesses and documents.
    • The House has already issued a subpoena to Mr. Pompeo for documents related to the Ukraine investigation. The   Wall Street Journal   reported that Mr. Pompeo was among the officials who listened in on Mr. Trump’s conversation with   President Volodymyr Zelensky   of Ukraine.

    What to expect this week

    • Speaker   Nancy Pelosi   will hold a news conference Wednesday to outline the immediate steps Democrats plan to take during the House’s two-week break, which lasts until Oct. 15.
    • Kurt Volker , the former United States special envoy to Ukraine, will give a deposition Thursday.
    • The inspector general of the national intelligence community,   Michael Atkinson , will testify behind closed doors in front of the House Intelligence Committee on Friday.

    The whistle-blower

    Mr. Trump kept his focus on the whistle-blower whose complaint helped mobilize House Democrats,   saying today that he wanted to “interview” him , a day after saying the White House was seeking to identify him — an action legal experts said could constitute an illegal reprisal.

    The White House has known for weeks that a C.I.A. officer lodged concerns about Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine. Still, Mr. Trump’s fixation on discovering and discussing the identity of the whistle-blower, whose anonymity is protected by law, was seen as a brazen move for a president under scrutiny for abuse of power.

    Representative Adam Schiff , the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said the whistle-blower would testify “very soon."

    The tally in Congress

    Congress won’t be back for another two weeks. But The Times has   asked every member of the House whether they support an impeachment inquiry . As of this morning, this was the count:

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    If the House votes on articles of impeachment, a simple majority, or 218 votes, will be needed to impeach.

    Impeachment primers

    What else we’re reading

    See you tomorrow. Email us your thoughts at   briefing@nytimes.com .

 
 
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