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All The Presidents* Men*

  

Category:  Op/Ed

By:  john-russell  •  5 years ago  •  63 comments

All The Presidents* Men*
Trump's corrupt life and personality is infecting his reign of error up and down the line.  The 47% figure will not go down, it will only go up as more Trump lies and efforts to get foreign countries involved in interfering with our elections are exposed. 

Mike Pompeo, U.S. Secretary of State, who is said to lust after the White House circa 2024, was listening in on the infamous Trump phone call to the Ukranian president in which the president* of the United States asked that foreign government to investigate Trump's main political rival in next year's election.  Pompeo then did a bamboozling move when asked directly about his knowledge of the phone call by a tv news interviewer. He ignored a direct question about his involvement and instead talked about something else, which is tantamount to a lie. 

William Barr is reported this morning to have been asking foreign leaders and foreign governments for information or help in 'investigating' the conspiracy theory that the origins of the Mueller investigation were tainted by 'deep state' motives. 

Rudy Giuliani, aka Trump's new Roy Cohn, aka Trump's "fixer", has spent countless days and hours trying to muscle foreign leaders into conducting witch hunts of Joe Biden, then lies buffoonishly about his activities on myriad cable news programs. Giuliani's main role is to try and confuse the American voter with constant convoluted streams of discredited nonsense. 

All The President's *  Men* 

A new CNN poll indicates almost half of Americans support Trump's removal from office NOW.     aka ASAP

Trump's corrupt life and personality is infecting his reign of error up and down the line. 

The 47% figure will not go down, it will only go up as more Trump lies and efforts to get foreign countries involved in interfering with our elections are exposed. 

Expect growing rumors that Trump will not be the GOP nominee next November. 


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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1  author  JohnRussell    5 years ago

How is Trump going to win an election when 47% of Americans think he should be removed from office TODAY ?

Once people come to their senses about Trump they dont backslide. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    5 years ago

I wouldn't be that confident in a poll based on landline and cellular telephone interviews of 1,009 adults.

The real test for those who want the President's removal will be congressional bipartisan support. The title of your article alludes to the Nixon impeachment inquiry. Do you remember that?  Both democrats and Republicans were united in calling for impeachment. They were somber & deliberate about the process, not racing for a "hail Mary" pass that gets them a miraculous removal of the President. Make no mistake, impeachment without conviction will be a disaster for democrats. Your'e gonna need it all now. So, I ask you - How far are you from the bipartisan congress that was ready to oust Richard Nixon?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to    5 years ago

Impeachment is always a procedure that neutralizes an election. It should always be a last resort, not an impulse.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    5 years ago

It's not an impulse for fucks' sake.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.3    5 years ago

I can tell just by the way you speak of it

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.7  Vic Eldred  replied to    5 years ago
But a necessary function if the infractions merit it..

Did they merit it in the two that actually took place?


If duly found malfeasant, trump, his Party, and his supporters should accept it.

And if they are frivolous the American people should turn democrats out of office En masse!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.5    5 years ago

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.2.12  Vic Eldred  replied to    5 years ago
something everyone should see as a serious matter with foundational consequences at stake.

I can almost hear the Star Spangled Banner playing in the distance....

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.15  Tessylo  replied to    5 years ago

It seems this 'president' suffers no consequences whatsoever from his lawlessness.  

I cannot wait until the day he leaves office.  

He won't look so good in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffs.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.16  author  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.9    5 years ago

Trump has never, even for one minute, been qualified to be president of the United States. Of course people have vocally opposed him from the beginning. That is what sensible, patriotic people do under the circumstances. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.20  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.16    5 years ago

'Trump has never, even for one minute, been qualified to be president of the United States. Of course people have vocally opposed him from the beginning. That is what sensible, patriotic people do under the circumstances.' 

That's what people who have more than two brain cells to rub together do.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.23  Tessylo  replied to    5 years ago
'Hogwash, still way more qualified than Obama'

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Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.18    5 years ago

The only 2 things that qualified Donny-Boy for office was that he is a native born citizen and he is well over 35 years of age.

Hell, that qualifies me for the presidency and I'm sure you don't want me running for office

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.27  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.26    5 years ago

This whole idea of Trump Derangement Syndrome is laughable nonsense. 

It's like claiming there was a Bernie Madoff Derangement Syndrome or an Alex Jones Derangement Syndrome. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.29  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.18    5 years ago
'And the facts belie your opinion.'

What facts?

John is correct.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.31  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.30    5 years ago

Yawn.  

How do you explain the asshole in chief?  It is neither useful nor viable.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
1.2.33  Dulay  replied to    5 years ago
the Democrats will toothless and out of favor for a long time

Isn't that what they said after 2016? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.34  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.30    5 years ago

I heard you the other 100 times you said it.

YAWN

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.2.36  cjcold  replied to    5 years ago

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cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.2.37  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @1.2.36    5 years ago

Anytime you trash a thoughtful liberal you give a far right wing fascist a open door to propagate fascist propaganda.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
1.2.38  Tacos!  replied to    5 years ago
If duly found malfeasant, trump, his Party, and his supporters should accept it.

I don't think there's a snowball's chance in Hell that the Senate would convict, but I might have been wrong once before. In any event, I don't think Democrats get to be too demanding about Republicans accepting an outcome in light of what we have seen from Democrats since 2016.

Nixon did so in his time

I wouldn't say he accepted anything. He resigned because it was made clear to him that he would be both impeached and convicted. They gave him a chance to walk away somewhat gracefully and he took it. But a few years later, he was telling David Frost that if the president does something, it can't be illegal.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  author  JohnRussell    5 years ago
As  MSNBC’s Chris Hayes said  on Monday, “[B]asically what’s happening here is the President putting the full force of the United States, in its foreign policy, and the resources of the Dept of Justice, towards validating a bunch of RT/Infowars nonsense.”

Former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau  put it more bluntly , saying, “The America First crowd is jeopardizing our national security by pressuring foreign governments to help them discredit our intelligence officials and rig our elections.”

This isn’t just about Ukraine, and it doesn’t only involve Trump

Trump’s behavior with respect to Ukraine is criminal enough to warrant impeachment and removal from office. But as this dam continues to break, we are learning that the Ukraine bombshell was just the beginning.

This isn’t just about Ukraine and this doesn’t only involve Donald Trump.

Instead, this appears to be a massive international scheme, stretching from the White House to the Department of Justice to the State Department, to go after this president’s political foes, the U.S. intelligence community and American democracy.

As  Philadelphia Inquirer columnist Will Bunch said  on Monday, “I thought I’d pretty much lost the capacity to be shocked by anything Team Trump does but I have to say I’m flabbergasted by Barr, Pompeo and the highest U.S. officials taking part in a vast international conspiracy to go after Trump’s enemies.”

It’s only a matter of time before more information surfaces about Trump’s discussions with other foreign powers, Russia in particular. But a pattern of behavior is emerging, and any future discussions that come to light are likely to show similarly lawless behavior on the part of the president of the United States.

For those who have been on the right side of history with respect to Donald Trump, it’s been a rough few years. But getting to watch it all fall apart in real-time has been a beautiful thing.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
2.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

Obama's speechwriter never says anything I agree with. jrSmiley_50_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.1    5 years ago

What a surprise!

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
3  freepress    5 years ago

They were all just coffee boys. The open attempts to throw each other under the bus is astonishing. Guiliani blaming the State Department people, the State Department returning the volley, and the blame game has begun but it is far more rotten than the idiotic "her e:mails" folly. Go after Ivanka and the family who use private email doing personal and government business without ever being elected or actually appointed to real jobs. They play act at what they think presents a display of doing something but in reality they have hurt their father and America grifting off of their positions and nepotism. They are trying to spin and deflect onto Biden, when they are doing far, far worse.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4  Tessylo    5 years ago
Impeachment Briefing: What Happened Today
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    Welcome to the   Impeachment Briefing , a special edition of the Morning Briefing that explains the latest developments in the House impeachment inquiry against President Trump.

    This newsletter will go out in the early evening (Eastern time), though we may tweak that depending on the news. If you’re not interested in receiving the Impeachment Briefing, you can unsubscribe through the link at the bottom of this email, and it won’t affect your regular Morning Briefing subscription.

    Today, we’re going to catch you up on the latest news, and set the stage for the coming days, when the impeachment fight is likely to heat up.

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    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo clashed with House Democrats from Italy, where he and his wife, Susan, arrived for a visit today. Yara Nardi/Reuters

    What happened today

    • The White House and House Democrats   clashed over attempts to interview American diplomats   who are witnesses in the growing Ukraine investigation.   Secretary of State   Mike Pompeo   said the interview request was “an act of intimidation” and did not allow enough time for a proper response.
    • Lawmakers accused Mr. Pompeo of “intimidating department witnesses in order to protect himself and the president,” and argued that blocking the diplomats would obstruct Congress’s work — an action Democrats view as an impeachable offense itself.
    • Given the bombshell news of recent weeks,   this was a relatively small skirmish   — but one that outlines the contours of the growing battle over Congress’s access to witnesses and documents.
    • The House has already issued a subpoena to Mr. Pompeo for documents related to the Ukraine investigation. The   Wall Street Journal   reported that Mr. Pompeo was among the officials who listened in on Mr. Trump’s conversation with   President Volodymyr Zelensky   of Ukraine.

    What to expect this week

    • Speaker   Nancy Pelosi   will hold a news conference Wednesday to outline the immediate steps Democrats plan to take during the House’s two-week break, which lasts until Oct. 15.
    • Kurt Volker , the former United States special envoy to Ukraine, will give a deposition Thursday.
    • The inspector general of the national intelligence community,   Michael Atkinson , will testify behind closed doors in front of the House Intelligence Committee on Friday.

    The whistle-blower

    Mr. Trump kept his focus on the whistle-blower whose complaint helped mobilize House Democrats,   saying today that he wanted to “interview” him , a day after saying the White House was seeking to identify him — an action legal experts said could constitute an illegal reprisal.

    The White House has known for weeks that a C.I.A. officer lodged concerns about Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine. Still, Mr. Trump’s fixation on discovering and discussing the identity of the whistle-blower, whose anonymity is protected by law, was seen as a brazen move for a president under scrutiny for abuse of power.

    Representative Adam Schiff , the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said the whistle-blower would testify “very soon."

    The tally in Congress

    Congress won’t be back for another two weeks. But The Times has   asked every member of the House whether they support an impeachment inquiry . As of this morning, this was the count:

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    If the House votes on articles of impeachment, a simple majority, or 218 votes, will be needed to impeach.

    Impeachment primers

    What else we’re reading

    See you tomorrow. Email us your thoughts at   briefing@nytimes.com .

 
 

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