Trump's Minneapolis Rally Was a Demonstration of the Moral Suicide Pact He's Made With His Supporters

  
Via:  john-russell  •  one month ago  •  159 comments

Trump's Minneapolis Rally Was a Demonstration of the Moral Suicide Pact He's Made With His Supporters
All the while, he will drag his supporters deeper and deeper into the abyss. They cannot be reached now, only stopped.

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The president makes a lot of things clear here. The only real "reporting" is whatever helps him and hurts his opponents. The same goes for what constitutes Fake News: it's any negative coverage of him. What is true—what's reflected in observable reality—is not relevant.

It was surely a swift process for some people. Here's a talk-radio soundboard running for president, yelling about Mexicans and Muslims and how we need a Big, Beautiful Wall to keep Those People out. He knows whose country this is. He knows who should make the rules, and who ought to shut up and follow them. He knows who gets a seat at the table in America. They were in from the jump, from the moment they first stood at a rally and felt that twisted power coursing through their veins.

But others, you have to think, were more gradual converts. Maybe they felt the world was passing them by. Maybe they didn't know until he came along how much they needed an outlet for their rage at a million quotidian cuts—the new boss who doesn't look like a boss should look, having to press "1" for English. They were primed for it, sure, but it took a while to fully commit. Day after day, as they continued to support him—through   the racist tirades   and the attacks on   veterans   and   their families   and   the exploding allegations that he is a serial sexual predator —they were forced to give up more and more of themselves to stay on-board. And as they gave up more of themselves, they became more and more devout in their allegiance to The Movement. At some point, the sunk cost became insurmountable. There is no going back now. They have given all of themselves to him.

That is how we arrived in the place we did on Thursday night at a rally in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Donald Trump, American president took the stage and, among a great many other things, did this. The crowd laughed and cheered.




He may once have told you, in his way,   not to believe your eyes and ears . But you can. The President of the United States did indeed just act out some sort of sexual fantasy, in front of thousands and on C-SPAN, between two characters from his extended Deep State Conspiracy Universe. The stars of this show were Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, two FBI employees involved in the Russia probe who were having an affair and were opposed to the president's candidacy for president. (There is   no evidence of misconduct .)

This is the president channeling everything he learned from Vince McMahon, pausing after he recites the names of the various heels so the crowd can howl their derision. The details aren't important. This is the show, where the enemies get bashed and We cheer together. This is the president deliberately debasing his office, going lower than ever before and bringing his supporters with him, because he knows they have ventured into the deep and dark together now and they can't see any path back. They will follow him until he is stopped, and the farther they follow, the more they are his. There is nothing that cannot be excused away with half-baked crap about Fake News or What About Hillary. Nihilism is at the heart of things now. There are no standards or ethics to be observed, only enemies to lash out at from the darkness.






The rest of last night's national disgrace was predictable by now. The president   cooked up egregious lies about Democratic leaders in Congress . He recited the names of his greatest allies on State TV and talked about how great their ratings are.   He proudly said , "There was no blackmail," on his call with the leader of Ukraine. Mr. President: Thank you.   He accused   his enemies of that which he is guilty.   He   joked   about serving more   than his constitutionally mandated two terms.   He exhibited   clear signs of cognitive decline.   He said Joe Biden , the former Vice President of the United States, only got the job "because he understood how to kiss Barack Obama's ass." And what exactly was Proper Evangelical Good Boy Mike Pence doing while the president simulated orgasms on-stage last night? After all, he and Mother were standing there in the arena.

But the real ugliness came on a similarly predictable topic. Minneapolis is home to Ilhan Omar and the sizable Somali community there from which she hails, and it was always bound to feature in this   Thursday Night Raw -meets-Riefenstahl with a script courtesy of Stephen Miller. First, he recited some evidence-free conspiracy theories he got off a right-wing blog.




The president makes a lot of things clear here. The only real "reporting" is whatever helps him and hurts his opponents. The same goes for what constitutes Fake News: it's any negative coverage of him. What is true—what's reflected in observable reality—is not relevant. But he is also very intent to cast the Minnesota congresswoman as The Other here. Not only is she a black Muslim woman, she must be smeared as someone who would violate basic codes of our society by marrying her brother. (Again, this is all horse shit.) She cannot be One of Us. She cannot be an American. She is The Other, and has no right to a seat at the table or a say in how we run our society. The crowd howled in response, including the kid, who couldn't have been older than 15, standing behind Trump on-camera.

This is more than dirty politics, though. Omar already receives   a huge volume of death threats —particularly when the president mentions her by name—and   members of a right-wing militia hatched a plot to bomb a Minnesota mosque in 2017 . The president himself has   embraced political violence repeatedly . While the vast majority of his supporters would not engage in it,   some have , including   a Florida man who sent pipe bombs to the president's perceived enemies at CNN . The president knows what he's doing. He wants to make it not just unpleasant but physically dangerous to oppose him. He wants his enemies to be afraid to participate in our politics. It is the language of force. He also wanted to make clear that Omar's Otherness was a proxy for the community she represents.







This is a virulently racist tirade aimed at ginning up the worst instincts of the people in the crowd. It is not a coincidence Trump chose to come here, or to target a refugee community that is black and Muslim. This is how he thinks he can win reelection: by continuing to pull his base of support towards more vitriolic expressions of this vision of America as a country for and by white people; by scaring other constituencies away from speaking out; by using   the Republican Party's machinations to stop inconvenient voters from voting ; by smearing his opponents as Just As Bad As Him, They Just Pretend to Be Prim and Proper; by soliciting foreign meddling that will benefit him in exchange for favors when he is reelected.

All the while, he will drag his supporters deeper and deeper into the abyss. They cannot be reached now, only stopped.


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago
This is a virulently racist tirade aimed at ginning up the worst instincts of the people in the crowd. It is not a coincidence Trump chose to come here, or to target a refugee community that is black and Muslim. This is how he thinks he can win reelection: by continuing to pull his base of support towards more vitriolic expressions of this vision of America as a country for and by white people
 
 
 
squiggy
1.1  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

Another day - ya hit the ‘off’ button at ‘supporters’.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  squiggy @1.1    one month ago

Trump's Inverted Reality

Let’s look at the rest of Trump’s reality inversion regarding impeachment:

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1 The whistleblower’s report was hearsay, second-hand, he didn’t personally hear the Ukraine call . But the White House’s own memorandum of the call’s content confirms exactly what the whistleblower reported. It’s the smoking gun.

2.   T he whistleblower is partisan, a hack, a spy, a traitor . The person is a CIA professional, whose sober detailed report bespeaks that professionalism and civic responsibility. Trump’s own national intelligence chief vouched for its propriety and the urgency of the concerns it expressed. And anyhow, see #1 above. (Also note that Trump’s threats against the person probably violate the federal whistleblower protection law.)

3.  The whistleblower’s report incorrectly characterized the phone call . See again #1 above. Trump and his creep squad have actually never identified one thing incorrect in the report.

4.   There was nothing improper in the call anyway . So why did White House officials immediately scramble to cover it up by moving the records from their normal repository to a highly restricted server? Which Trump and company have neither denied nor explained.

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6.  Adam Schiff lied about what Trump said in the call . Schiff was clearly not purporting to give a verbatim recap, but an interpretation of what was really going on: extortion. Which was accurate. (See #5 above.)

7 Schiff knew about the whistleblower before it became public . If so — so what? How does that exculpate Trump? In fact, the complaint’s public revelation was delayed because the administration tried to bury it — another violation of law.

8.  Democrats seek to undo the 2016 election . This has been a constant whine against every criticism of Trump. (And a ridiculous one — as if Hillary could somehow be installed as president.) Meantime, the Constitution prescribes impeachment for presidential high crimes and misdemeanors. That has nothing to do with the prior election. Or do Republicans believe that, once elected, a president is unaccountable for anything he does? Trump’s denouncing a constitutional procedure as “a coup” is a direct assault upon our democratic institutions.

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* Trump also seems to believe a wacky conspiracy theory that Ukraine had some convoluted role in “fake news” about 2016 election hacking, mentioned in his Zelenskiy call. His own reality is inverted.

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

I never watch his overly long and sleep inducing speeches.

What did he say that offended your sensibilities this time?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @1.2    one month ago

If you don't know anything about it, why are you trying to comment on it? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2  XDm9mm    one month ago
This is a virulently racist tirade aimed at ginning up the worst instincts of the people in the crowd.

Yes it most certainly is.  How dare the local CBS affiliate show something like this:

20 Arrested, 18 Charged In Brutal Downtown Minneapolis Robberies

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Twenty people arrested, 18 of them now charged — all connected to brutal robberies in downtown Minneapolis .

The attacks were caught on surveillance video, taking place in August. Police say groups of people would target one person, assault them, and often to take their cellphone and wallet. The 18 suspects range in age from 15 to 27.

Walking alone is all part of Sneh Bhakta’s commute in downtown Minneapolis.

“It does make me feel singled out because all the time I am alone,” Bhakta said. “And like when I commute at 6 in the morning, I am by myself, at the train station I’m alone.”

His concerns grew upon seeing the disturbing robberies caught on tape, occurring near the places he walks. At about 4 a.m. on August 17, at the intersection of 5th Street and Hennepin Avenue, a man stands by himself while looking down at his phone. Slowly but surely, people approach him to talk. Eventually he is surrounded, beaten and left unconscious — all so the thieves could take his phone and wallet. A GoFundMe page has been set up for that victim.

A few weeks earlier outside Target Field, another group targets a man who is alone in broad daylight. They attack him, and even ride a bike over his body — all to steal his belongings.

........

Minneapolis-Cellphone-Robberies-Suspects

Half of the suspects charged in the robberies. Top row (lt to rt: Alexis Dillard-Grayer, Adrian Cooper, Ade Davis. Middle row (lt to rt: Cornell Parker, Boris Lusmbo, Antonio Morrow. Bottom row (lt to rt): Vincent Nelson, Kareem Shavers, Jamar Robinson (credit: Hennepin Co. Jail)

Source:  https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/09/16/20-arrested-18-charged-in-brutal-downtown-minneapolis-robberies/

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @2    one month ago

"This is the president channeling everything he learned from Vince McMahon, pausing after he recites the names of the various heels so the crowd can howl their derision. The details aren't important. This is the show, where the enemies get bashed and We cheer together. This is the president deliberately debasing his office, going lower than ever before and bringing his supporters with him, because he knows they have ventured into the deep and dark together now and they can't see any path back. They will follow him until he is stopped, and the farther they follow, the more they are his. There is nothing that cannot be excused away with half-baked crap about Fake News or What About Hillary. Nihilism is at the heart of things now. There are no standards or ethics to be observed, only enemies to lash out at from the darkness."

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    one month ago

What?  No original thoughts?  Only "quotes" of others?

 
 
 
WallyW
2.1.2  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    one month ago

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JohnRussell
2.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @2.1.2    one month ago

trolling

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.4  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    one month ago
trolling

Trolling?  pfffttttt.  That's drunk Uncle Cletus at your niece's wedding.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.1.5  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.1    one month ago
What?  No original thoughts?

The sum total of your original thoughts so far: 

Yes it most certainly is.  How dare the local CBS affiliate show something like this:
 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XDm9mm @2.1.1    one month ago

Like you have done better in the past.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @2    one month ago

What does this have to do with John's seed?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    one month ago
What does this have to do with John's seed?

Maybe the fact that both occurred in Minneapolis?   And of course the fact that those sweet gentle young lowlife scumbag thugs were from the area represented by that other kindly antisemitic Congress person in one Ilhan Omar.  You remember her don't you? 

Here's what she said to remind you:

Here's the truth. For far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen. Frankly, I'm tired of it. And every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.

However, maybe that shithead should understand a little history before she opens her mouth again.  CAIR was actually founded in 1994 LONG before 9/11.  And it wasn't because "some people did something".

 
 
 
bugsy
2.2.2  bugsy  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2.1    one month ago

There were reports that Omar and her boyfriend were at the riots that night. I've seen pictures and they do seem to favor both of them, of course both were wearing masks, and the one perpetrated to be Omar was wearing a hijab.

I think because of the uncertainty, no one really picked up on it, but the pictures do look very similar to Omar and her (next on the list) boyfriend.

 
 
 
Dulay
2.3  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @2    one month ago
Yes it most certainly is.

Is your posit that the people that perpetrated the robbery were in the rally crowd? 

If not, HOW is your comment relevant? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @2.3    one month ago
Maybe the fact that both occurred in Minneapolis?

That's his answer.

I still don't see how it's relevant, either

 
 
 
PJ
3  PJ    one month ago

Trump is only mirroring who his supporters are and the true essence of their souls.  Since he was elected I have waited for his supporters to influence this president for the greater good but they don't seem to be capable of that.  History will show how easily the weak minded can be manipulated and influenced to behave and act out in the worst way. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  PJ @3    one month ago

History IS showing, how the weak minded, will never find it. Truth   is out of reach for so many, if it wasn't so meaningful,

it would be laughable.

 
 
 
PJ
3.1.1  PJ  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1    one month ago

To be frank, it just makes me sad.  I've had this illusion about what America is and who American's are.  Seeing who trump supporters are has made me feel like I've been lied to.  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  PJ @3.1.1    one month ago

just by listening to the president,

you have been .

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2  XDm9mm  replied to  PJ @3    one month ago
History will show how easily the weak minded can be manipulated and influenced to behave and act out in the worst way.

True.  Many on the left prove that not only on a daily basis, but damn near minute by minute of every day.

 
 
 
PJ
3.2.1  PJ  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2    one month ago

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Thrawn 31
3.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  PJ @3    one month ago
Trump is only mirroring who his supporters are and the true essence of their souls. 

True. They love him for publicly being the piece of shit they only wish they could be. They vicariously live their shitty lives through him. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.3    one month ago
Trump is only mirroring who his supporters are and the true essence of their souls. 
True. They love him for publicly being the piece of shit they only wish they could be. They vicariously live their shitty lives through him.

This should probably be the topic of it's own seed.  I think it is true that many Trumnpsters live vicariously through the moron-in-chief.  But why? 

 
 
 
WallyW
3.4  WallyW  replied to  PJ @3    one month ago

What are the left wingers  doing lately for the common good?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.4.1  Jack_TX  replied to  WallyW @3.4    one month ago
What are the left wingers  doing lately for the common good?

Tweeting angrily.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.4.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Jack_TX @3.4.1    one month ago

Tweeting angrily.

goog thing Trump would never

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
3.4.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  WallyW @3.4    one month ago

What are you?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.4.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3.4.3    one month ago

He's helping to make the "libbies" cry

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.4.5  Jack_TX  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.4.2    one month ago
goog thing Trump would never

You're telling me he's now a role model? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4  Sean Treacy    one month ago

Always amusing about the pearl clutching from the left about the supposed violence of Trump rallies that ignores the actual viscous attacks by left-wingers on American citizens outside the rally.

Why is the left so violent? And why doesn't the media or really any progressive care?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    one month ago
Why is the left so violent?

Because they have nothing other than violence to use.

And why doesn't the media or really any progressive care?

Easy peezy answer.  Because it's the left and the media support and defends them every minute of every day as they all have utter and to the core vitriolic hatred for the man named Donald J. Trump and any and all that support him and/or his policies.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1    one month ago

Just imagine a world where masked right-wingers were attacking people as they left Biden rallies or wearing Biden paraphernalia. Or, if you really want to imagine a media apoclypse, a Kamela Harris rally.  There would be no end to they hysteria.

but since it's Trump supporters being attacked, there's silence.

It's clear that the only real reporting the MSM does is on stories that hurt Trump and help  his opponents.  .

 
 
 
PJ
4.1.2  PJ  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    one month ago

Every time I read your posts and posts of others in your faction I get nervous about what is going to happen to me when I become old and incapable of reasonable thought. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  PJ @4.1.2    one month ago

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PJ
4.1.4  PJ  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.3    one month ago

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igknorantzrulz
4.1.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.3    one month ago

Too amusing, coming from a Trump apologest 

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.3    one month ago

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MrFrost
4.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.3    one month ago

Can you lose something you never had?

You should ask trump that because he has never had any class, honesty, morals, sense of fair play, integrity, intelligence or a dick over 3 inches long. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.7    one month ago
You should ask trump that because he has never had any class, honesty, morals, sense of fair play, integrity, intelligence or a dick over 3 inches long. 

I just have to ask:

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MrFrost
4.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.8    one month ago
What is up with the left's fascination with Trump's dick?

It's just one more thing trump has that's pathetic. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.7    one month ago
dick over 3 inches long.

And you know this how exactly?  Been watching in the mens room?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.11  Jack_TX  replied to  PJ @4.1.2    one month ago
I get nervous about what is going to happen to me when I become old and incapable of reasonable thought. 

You'll think AOC's math makes sense.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.1.12  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.7    one month ago
You should ask trump that because he has never had any class, honesty, morals, sense of fair play, integrity, intelligence or a dick over 3 inches long. 

Correct.

So who are you going to give us as an option next year?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.13  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.7    one month ago
You should ask trump that because he has never had any class, honesty, morals, sense of fair play, integrity, intelligence or a dick over 3 inches long.

Ha!

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.9    one month ago
It's just one more thing trump has that's pathetic. 

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Texan1211
4.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.3    one month ago

Congrats on your very own faction!!!!!!

 
 
 
PJ
4.1.16  PJ  replied to  Jack_TX @4.1.11    one month ago

NEVER!

 
 
 
WallyW
4.1.17  WallyW  replied to  PJ @4.1.2    one month ago

I  could  give an answer that would be deleted  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.18  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.10    one month ago

Can you say Stormy? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.19  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.10    one month ago

Um no. Stormy daniels said that. Perhaps you could look it up.

 
 
 
arkpdx
4.1.20  arkpdx  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.19    one month ago

Can you say that is meaningless and stupid and can you understand that I care about Trump's size about as much as I care about Bill Clinton's bent dick.

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.21  MrFrost  replied to  arkpdx @4.1.20    one month ago
Bill Clinton's bent dick.

You know this how, exactly? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
4.1.22  arkpdx  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.21    one month ago

One of Bill's victims reported that when he was being impeached.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    one month ago

Donald Trump is either literally deranged or pretends to be deranged because he thinks that is what his supporters expect him to be (and many of them do).  Either way it is sick. 

It must really suck to be stuck on a forum like this trying to defend insanity. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    one month ago

It also must really suck to publish vitriolic, hysterical "I Hate Trump" articles almost every day.

Trump lives rent-free in your head!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.1    one month ago

It is obvious that it really sucks to be a Trump defender. 

Credibility?    Gone.

Dignity?    Gone. 

Contact with reality?    Gone.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    one month ago

Do you think the media is objective?

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.2    one month ago
Contact with reality? 

Lots of fools lost all contact with reality the day their Abuela lost.

Screaming at the sky isn't a rational act.

Fixating on wild-ass conspiracy theories and shouting "He isn't my President" and "He isn't qualified" for almost 3 years now isn't a mark of sanity, either.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.4    one month ago

Millions of people knew what Trump was long before the 2016 election. He has always been a pathological liar, diseased narcissist, and mental midget. All of which makes him unfit for office. 

You were told that Trump would be resisted every day of his term in office. Now it has happened exactly as you were told it would and yet you endlessly bitch about people opposing this asshole. 

The deluded ones are not the ones who oppose trump. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.2.6  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.4    one month ago
Lots of fools lost all contact with reality the day their Abuela lost.

Lots of fools lost all contact with reality the day they lost the civil war. 

 
 
 
PJ
4.2.7  PJ  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.3    one month ago

No, they no longer can be objective.  The fate of the free world is at stake because of people like you.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.6    one month ago
Lots of fools lost all contact with reality the day they lost the civil war. 

That may well be the case, but surely all those Democrats who lost the Civil War are dead by now--for many decades, for sure--so we really can't ask them now, can we?

WTF does the Civil War and Democrats' reactions to that loss have to do with inane conspiracy theories about Trump being a cult leader?

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.5    one month ago
Millions of people knew what Trump was long before the 2016 election. He has always been a pathological liar, diseased narcissist, and mental midget. All of which makes him unfit for office. 
You were told that Trump would be resisted every day of his term in office. Now it has happened exactly as you were told it would and yet you endlessly bitch about people opposing this asshole. 
The deluded ones are not the ones who oppose trump. 

You never fail to stick to your dedicated "I HATE TRUMP!!" screed. I admire your intestinal fortitude in living that Trump hate 24/7!

Just THINK what you could accomplish if you devoted half of that time to a worthy cause!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.9    one month ago

Think of what the GOP could accomplish if they dumped Trump and nominated someone else in 2020. 

 
 
 
PJ
4.2.11  PJ  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.9    one month ago
Just THINK what you could accomplish if you devoted half of that time to a worthy cause!

There is nothing more worthier than trying to save our republic from americans who are betraying our country by following a leader who is destroying our country from within and ignoring our Constitution and our laws.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.12  Texan1211  replied to  PJ @4.2.11    one month ago

And there is nothing more asinine than thinking the President is some kind of cult leader.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.13  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.10    one month ago
Think of what the GOP could accomplish if they dumped Trump and nominated someone else in 2020. 

Afraid the Democrats will lose again to Trump?

 
 
 
PJ
4.2.14  PJ  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.12    one month ago

I don't think Trump is a cult leader.  I think he is a domestic terrorist [Deleted]

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  PJ @4.2.14    one month ago
I don't think Trump is a cult leader.  I think he is a domestic terrorist as is his followers.

Wild hysteria never is a good look.

 
 
 
PJ
4.2.16  PJ  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.15    one month ago
Wild hysteria never is a good look.

I'm a warrior princess and that IS a good look. 

(except I don't have blond hair.......and my thighs are NOT that big)

I'm out for a bit - I have to go pack.  I'll be back later to battle evil

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Texan1211
4.2.17  Texan1211  replied to  PJ @4.2.16    one month ago

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MrFrost
4.2.18  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.8    one month ago
That may well be the case, but surely all those Democrats who lost the Civil War are dead by now--for many decades, for sure--so we really can't ask them now, can we?

Sure, they were as Democrat as Lincoln was a Republican. By today's standards, Lincoln would be a far left wing liberal. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.2.19  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.6    one month ago
Lots of fools lost all contact with reality the day they lost the civil war. 

And exactly how old are you to have such knowledge?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.2.20  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.5    one month ago
Millions of people knew what Trump was long before the 2016 election.

Tens of millions.

He has always been a pathological liar, diseased narcissist, and mental midget. All of which makes him unfit for office.

All of which makes him very similar to LBJ and Nixon. 

BTW, who will you be giving us as an option for 2020?

You were told that Trump would be resisted every day of his term in office. Now it has happened exactly as you were told it would and yet you endlessly bitch about people opposing this asshole.

Riiiiight.  Because posting multiple articles daily on an obscure internet forum damages Trump immensely.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.2.21  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.10    one month ago
Think of what the GOP could accomplish if they dumped Trump and nominated someone else in 2020.

Why don't you run?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.22  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @4.2.21    one month ago
Why don't you run?

Why dont you run? The conservatives need a new candidate. 

 
 
 
bugsy
4.2.23  bugsy  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.6    one month ago
Lots of fools lost all contact with reality the day they lost the civil war. 

Yes, and many democrats continue to be that way today.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.24  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @4.2.18    one month ago
Sure, they were as Democrat as Lincoln was a Republican

Undeniable fact.

By today's standards, Lincoln would be a far left wing liberal. 

So you say. But that doesn't make it reality.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.2.25  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.22    one month ago
Why dont you run?

Because I'm happy with my current life.  Trump doesn't send me into apoplectic fits of hysteria.

 
 
 
PJ
4.2.26  PJ  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.17    one month ago

I thought your comment was funny.  Peeps need to lighten up on this site.

 
 
 
WallyW
4.2.27  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2    one month ago
It must really suck to be stuck on a forum like this trying to defend insanity. 
We're not defending insanity, we're having fun arguing with it here everyday

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.2.28  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  PJ @4.2.11    one month ago
There is nothing more worthier 

LOL

There is nothing "more worthier" than trying to save our republic from americans who want to turn our country into a third world socialist shit-hole.

we will give no ground.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.2.29  igknorantzrulz  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.2.28    one month ago

we will give no ground.

r u positive u r neutral on all the negativity

?
as, not a well grounded 

r guemeant 4 me, thee, or thy, cause afforded it, sum Ken knot, knor will not .

by the weigh i right, does it prove my exciting point wrong or dull...

 
 
 
PJ
4.2.30  PJ  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.2.28    one month ago
turn our country into a third world socialist shit-hole.

Is that a standard answer from the magic eight ball?  I'd like a do over.  It's clear the device has obviously lost some of it's fluids.

 
 
 
Dulay
4.2.31  Dulay  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.2.28    one month ago
we will give no ground.

You may not give ground but by electing Trump, y'all lost your soul.

 
 
 
PJ
4.2.32  PJ  replied to  Dulay @4.2.31    one month ago

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Hehehehehehehe

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.2.33  igknorantzrulz  replied to  WallyW @4.2.27    one month ago
We're not defending insanity, we're having fun arguing with it here everyday

Alright Wally,

you hit that one right out of the ballpark.

quit showing off,

but,

nicely done, 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.2.34  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Dulay @4.2.31    one month ago
y'all lost your soul.

so ya say.... LOL

good luck with the impeachment fantasy

cheers :)

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.2.35  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.2.19    one month ago

And exactly how old are you to have such knowledge?

They are called books. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.2.36  MrFrost  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.2.28    one month ago
third world socialist shit-hole.

Trump uses socialism all the time. But let me guess, that's ok, right? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4.2.37  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.4    one month ago

Lots of fools did too when your Abuelo won.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
4.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    one month ago

Are you talking about ANTIFA and their mission to fuck up Nazis? I have always said I completely support them as long as they just keep it to Nazis and other white supremacists. 

As far as people just acting stupid at protests or rallies or whatever? Meh, people get dumber in larger and larger groups, it is expected. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
4.3.1  arkpdx  replied to  Thrawn 31 @4.3    one month ago

So your ok is some people's rights are violated as long as you disagree with them.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
4.3.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  arkpdx @4.3.1    one month ago

Nazis should be shot on sight. I advocate the exact same rights they would extend to me.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.3.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @4.3.2    one month ago

Nazis should be shot on sight

Cool. Mobs just declare people walking down then street  "Nazis" and then kill them.  

American Progressives, Keeping Stalinism alive for the 21st Century. 

 
 
 
loki12
4.3.4  loki12  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.3.3    one month ago

It seems this is becoming a thing for some liberals, there were little bitches whining about trump saying he could shoot someone, Obama actually murdered Americans under the guise of authority.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
4.3.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.3.3    one month ago

I am 100% okay with executing Nazis as they are found. They are Nazis. As my grandfather (served in Europe) once told me. "the only good Nazi is a dead one." 

Aside from that group fuck no. But glad to see you are looking out for the Nazis. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
4.3.6  Thrawn 31  replied to  loki12 @4.3.4    one month ago

Yawn. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.3.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @4.3.5    one month ago

Glad to see you are in favor of mob violence and killing anyone who the mob dislikes. You seem like a natural leader of a lynch mob. Unfortunately for you, you were  born at the wrong time.

While I hope you or your loved ones never get called a Nazi and killed by accident,  I guess you'd be fine with that.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.3.8  igknorantzrulz  replied to  loki12 @4.3.4    one month ago

It seems this is becoming a thing for some liberals, there were little bitches whining about trump saying he could shoot someone, Obama actually murdered Americans under the guise of authority.

And Trump just one upped Obama yet again in your eyes with a War of Trumps' making, and you have what to say about the senseless slaughter of our best allie against ISISL's ?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
4.3.9  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.3.7    one month ago

Lol, I love how you are standing up for Nazis.

And if one of my loved ones ever came out to be a Nazi, hard a it would be, fuck'em.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.3.10  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @4.3.9    one month ago
I love how you are standing up for Nazis;

I guess you are replying to me by mistake. No literate person could possibly claim I'm "standing up for Nazis"

es ever came out to be a Nazi, hard a it would be, fuck'em.

As I said, you were born to lead a lynch mob.  Imagine being okay with your loves ones being killed because a mob mistook them for Nazis. Takes a special kind of commitment in  the wisdom of mobs to believe that. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.3.11  MUVA  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.3.10    one month ago

And some wonder where you get people to go along with a lynch mob. 

 
 
 
loki12
4.3.12  loki12  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.3.8    one month ago

A war of trumps making? FFS we aren’t bombing anyone, you must think trump is all powerful. Obama created ISIS by sucking Putin’s dick in Syria 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.3.13  igknorantzrulz  replied to  loki12 @4.3.12    one month ago
Obama created ISIS by sucking Putin’s dick in Syri

what, did he cock block Donald;s Dick while he was fckn Goofy ?

,

You tell the ones with bombs raining down on them how they are not in a WAR , Trump created by being the failure that just won't stop failing.

His words have people DEAD, Live with it, while you make some more excuses for the abortion in our White House

 
 
 
loki12
4.3.14  loki12  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.3.13    one month ago

Abortion in the whitehouse? And all the pro-choice cheered.

 
 
 
arkpdx
4.3.15  arkpdx  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.3.8    one month ago

Turkey is an ally also and has been a member of NATO  since 1952. If our troops would have stayed you would have bitched about how we were fighting our Turkish allies and probably only for oil . So drop the false anger bit, I ain't buying.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5  MrFrost    one month ago

The first thing a cult leader does is tell you everyone else is lying to you. You know, like screaming that all media is fake with the exception of state run media. 

In any case, the protests in Minneapolis were much bigger that trump's ridiculous lie fest. 

512

 
 
 
Sunshine
5.1  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @5    one month ago
The first thing a cult leader does is tell you everyone else is lying to you.

Isn't that what the Democrats do?  Everyone lies but them.

Trump is a liar, Trump supporters are liars, Fox News lies, Republicans lie, everyone lies. jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @5.1    one month ago
Isn't that what the Democrats do?  Everyone lies but them.

I am pretty sure than trumps supporters are not Democrats. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
5.1.2  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.1    one month ago

Thank gawd, or we would have the lying piece of shit Hillary in the White House, with her hound dog rapist husband.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.1    one month ago
than

(that)

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @5.1.2    one month ago
lying piece of shit Hillary

Politicians, left or right, lie about 35% of the time, Hillary is right on the average at 36% percent of the time. Trump is just over 83% of the time. 

Now what was that you were saying about a "lying piece of shit in the White House"? Congrats, you voted for the candidate that lies the most. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
5.1.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sunshine @5.1    one month ago
Trump is a liar

Is he?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.4    one month ago

Donny-Boy wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the heiney

 
 
 
Sunshine
5.1.7  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.4    one month ago
 "lying piece of shit in the White House"? 

That would be two lying pieces of shit.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @5.1.7    one month ago

That would be two lying pieces of shit.

Ya got me there, trump and pence. Thanks for the correction. 

 
 
 
PJ
5.2  PJ  replied to  MrFrost @5    one month ago

Trump's play book:

Isolation (physical, social or emotional) is often used to facilitate power and control over someone for an abusive purpose . This applies in many contexts such as cults .

Isolation reduces the opportunity of the abused to be rescued or escape from the abuse. It also helps disorientate the abused and makes the abused more dependent on the abuser. The degree of power and control over the abused is contingent upon the degree of their physical or emotional isolation.

An important element of psychological control is the isolation of the victim from the outside world. Isolation includes controlling a person's social activity: whom they see, whom they talk to, where they go and any other method to limit their access to others. It may also include limiting what material is read. It can include insisting on knowing where they are and requiring permission for medical care. The abuser exhibits hypersensitive and reactive jealousy.

Isolation can be aided by:
 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @5    one month ago

Cult leader?

WTF??

LMFAO!!!

Whoo, boy!

WHERE do you GET this stuff from??

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    one month ago

So you are saying trump has never attacked the media? Trump has never said that the media LIES? Trump has never used the term, "fake news"?

That's what you're going with? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @5.3.1    one month ago
So you are saying trump has never attacked the media? Trump has never said that the media LIES? Trump has never used the term, "fake news"?
That's what you're going with? 

Mr. Frost, it appears to me that you can, indeed, read English pretty well. Go ahead and quote me stating what the hell you are asking.

Now, did you READ me stating that or just ask some inane question to cover up the fact that you believe Trump is some kind of cult leader based on wild rantings and stupid conspiracy theories?

 
 
 
lady in black
5.3.3  lady in black  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    one month ago

Please explain these lies away.

71747782_1257176724467978_31477290037883

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
5.3.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    one month ago
WHERE do you GET this stuff from??

People like you. People who excuse anything and everything he does for some extremely fucked up reason. 

The other day my father and uncle dragged me into a political discussion at my 5 year old's birthday party, it ended up being 5 minutes of me shitting on them and Trump and listening to their sorry ass excuses for his behavior. Eventually I got bored and so I ended it by just saying "what is really pathetic is watching 2 grown ass, accomplished men make excuses for him like we are at his birthday party." We hadn't even gotten to his policies, just his behavior and complete lack of morals.

They know he absolutely sucks, but are too invested at this point to change course. It is truly pitiful. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
5.3.5  Jack_TX  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    one month ago
Cult leader? WTF??

Goes right along with "moral suicide pact".  

Just more of the now ubiquitous liberal hysteria.

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.6  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.3.4    one month ago
People like you. People who excuse anything and everything he does for some extremely fucked up reason.

People like me? How asinine! I have never said Trump was a cult leader. He made that shit up on his own or posted an article saying it because he agreed with it. Don't blame ME for that shit.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.3.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.3.4    one month ago
The other day my father and uncle

Smart people listen to their seniors.  They have more life experience and history to go on.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
5.3.9  Thrawn 31  replied to  XDm9mm @5.3.7    one month ago
Smart people listen to their seniors.  They have more life experience and history to go on.

Oh yeah, so I should have listened to my grandmother when she told me you can't trust niggers? I mean, she is my senior and, with more life experience, clearly I should take what she said to heart.

Only a fucking moron thinks age begets wisdom. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
5.3.10  Thrawn 31  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.6    one month ago

YOU bought into it.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.3.11  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.3.9    one month ago

they're amusing, if they weren't so lost and it wasn't so serious...

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
5.3.12  Thrawn 31  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.3.11    one month ago

And didn't have guns. That is the worst part, as a society we have allowed the mentally ill to carry. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.3.13  Tessylo  replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.3.9    one month ago

Sounds like my best friends grandma who refers to Japanese people as Japs.

Yup, with age comes wisdom, yup.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.3.14  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.2    one month ago
Now, did you READ me stating that or just ask some inane question to cover up the fact that you believe Trump is some kind of cult leader based on wild rantings and stupid conspiracy theories?

Nope. I was just referencing your apparent inability to dispute what I said in #5

 
 
 
MrFrost
6  MrFrost    one month ago

Vote Trump 2020!!!!!! Making ISIS great again!!!!!!

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.1  Sunshine  replied to  MrFrost @6    one month ago
Making ISIS great again!!!!!!

When was ISIS ever great?  

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sunshine @6.1    one month ago

Shouldn't you be asking Trump that question?

hes the one bringing them back

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Sunshine @6.1    one month ago
When was ISIS ever great?  

Probably just when it was the JV squad!

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Sunshine @6.1    one month ago
When was ISIS ever great?

Never, but trump is sure trying to make them great! 

 
 
 
loki12
6.1.4  loki12  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.1.1    one month ago

So he is finally restoring something “O”dickhead the daft did and your upset?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
6.1.5  Thrawn 31  replied to  Sunshine @6.1    one month ago

Ask your boy Trump, he apparently wants them to come back.

 
 
 
arkpdx
6.1.6  arkpdx  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.1.1    one month ago

Why not ask Obama. He's the ones that got them  started.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.1.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.6    one month ago

Why not ask Obama. He's the ones that got them  started.

is Obama implementing policy here and now ?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
6.1.8  Thrawn 31  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.6    one month ago
No, I'll ask fat ass, he is the one supposedly in charge at the moment. 
 
 
 
arkpdx
6.1.9  arkpdx  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.1.7    one month ago

Oh! Silly me! I forgot that when Obama screwed up we were supposed to ignore it or blame someone else and that any Obama screw up never existed or is irrelavent now that he's out of office.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.1.10  igknorantzrulz  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.9    one month ago

a screw up, is a screw up

you're supposed to learn from History, don't you think, 

but,

how the fck that has a damn thing to do with ,    sayy,     oh    i don't know,

possibly the mental midget at the helm , while out of this realm,

but

in like the here and now sense,  when possibly,  if say ,   even a few that know better, that 

Trump is fgking up royally, and i have a sense, that you, and many others posting excuse after excuse actually realize this time his real lies, is having a Blatent out and out murdering of peoples.

How you can attempt to make it about Obama, is just sad 

.

not admitting that we have a problem president, is even lower, for Somebody's sake, lets venture back to the severity of a small bit of 'ethnic cleansing'

and how you and others posting, 

think it can in anyway be ignored.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.1.11  igknorantzrulz  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.9    one month ago

I'm serious arkpdx, can you reply in good faith in answer to a serious question i pose to you ?

and that goes out to it is ME, Jack Texas, Texas Jack, and Fish, and anybody else that i've disagreed with on THIS specific issue

and htat goes for you other guys that i disagree with, but , don't have the mental energy to actually recall your names    like Sparty and CB, and such  whoever

.

i'd like THIS one explained, as this one IS having Life and Death Consequences, directly from Trumps, doings' / undoings' and don't give me we didn't know this would happen,   remember what the last sane one in the administration upper bracket , resigned about

this is a dead    serious    issue

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  loki12 @6.1.4    one month ago

So he is finally restoring something “O”dickhead the daft did and your upset?

ISIS came to power in 2006, pretty Sure Obama wasn't in office then. And didn't you just complain that Obama killed American terrorist in the ME, that had joined ISIS? 

I love it though, trump just made sure 10,000 ISIS fighters got released while shitting on our allies and all you can come up with is yet another "O" slam? Really? LMFAO! 

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.13  MrFrost  replied to  arkpdx @6.1.6    one month ago

Why not ask Obama. He's the ones that got them  started.

Wrong.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/11/isis-origins-anbari-zarqawi/577030/

 
 
 
loki12
6.1.14  loki12  replied to  MrFrost @6.1.12    one month ago

Yawn,

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @6.1.3    4 weeks ago
When was ISIS ever great?
Never, but trump is sure trying to make them great! 

Never?

Then that makes your comment:

Making ISIS great again!!!!!!

rather nonsensical, doesn't it?

 
 
 
MUVA
6.2  MUVA  replied to  MrFrost @6    one month ago

Making the JV great again.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
6.2.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  MUVA @6.2    one month ago

I guess that is one thing dipshit can claim victory for, he bought a terrorist organization life.

 
 
 
arkpdx
6.2.2  arkpdx  replied to  Thrawn 31 @6.2.1    one month ago

I shocked! I never thought I would ever hear you call Obama a dipshit.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6.2.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Thrawn 31 @6.2.1    one month ago
he bought a terrorist organization life.

512

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.2.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6.2.3    one month ago

Obama's retired

Trump is the cause of our allies being murdered

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6.2.3    one month ago

I dont want to risk alienating you by making too much sense, but Obama could not have founded ISIS because he was not president or in any position of power when the basis for ISIS was created in the mid 2000's. 

“The Islamic State has its origins in the U.S. invasion of Iraq,” Princeton University professor  Bernard Haykel , who heads the university’s Institute for Transregional Study of the Contemporary Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia, told us in an interview. “It is tied to a man named Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who was killed in an American attack in 2006. I don’t see that Obama has anything to do with it – at all. He wasn’t even on the scene when the founders of ISIS set it up.”

In June 2006 , Zarqawi was killed in a U.S. airstrike, but Egyptian Abu Ayub al-Masri took over the organization, calling it the Islamic State of Iraq a few months later.

In an analysis, “ From Paper State to Caliphate ,” for the Brookings Institution’s Center for Middle East Policy, Cole Bunzel writes that t he significance of the group’s name change to the Islamic State of Iraq “was much greater than was appreciated at the time. It signaled the start of an ambitious political project: the founding of a state in Iraq– a proto-caliphate — that would ultimately expand across the region, proclaim itself the fullfledged caliphate, and go on to conquer the rest of the world.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/08/trumps-false-obama-isis-link/

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
6.2.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.5    one month ago

ISI was a few crazy guys in the desert until Obama was President. 

ISIS was formed in 2013 when ISI merged with Al-Nusra. 

 
 
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