BREAKING: E.U. Ambassador: Trump pushed Giuliani to have Ukraine investigate his political opponents

  
Via:  john-russell  •  one month ago  •  80 comments

BREAKING: E.U. Ambassador: Trump pushed Giuliani to have Ukraine investigate his political opponents
"My understanding was that the president directed Mr. Giuliani’s participation, that Mr. Giuliani was expressing the concerns of the president,

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Sondland casts blame directly on the president in the 18-page statement he plans to read to House lawmakers before answering their questions in the closed-door session. He also chastises his employer — the State Department — for trying to block his testimony.



Sondland to testify that Trump directed Giuliani to push Ukraine scheme


"My understanding was that the president directed Mr. Giuliani’s participation, that Mr. Giuliani was expressing the concerns of the president," he'll say, according to prepared testimony obtained by NBC News.



WASHINGTON — U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland will tell Congress on Thursday that Rudy Giuliani told him President Donald Trump wanted Ukraine’s new government to investigate both the 2016 election and   a natural gas firm tied to Hunter Biden , according to   prepared testimony obtained by NBC News .

Sondland will testify that Giuliani, Trump’s personal lawyer, even mentioned getting the Ukrainians to investigate "the DNC server" — a reference to a Democratic National Committee computer that plays prominently in a debunked conspiracy theory about Ukrainian interference in 2016.



The ambassador is expected to tell House investigators that he ultimately learned that Giuliani, far from freelancing, was advancing Trump’s goals when he pushed for Ukraine to   investigate the president’s political opponents .

"My understanding was that the president directed Mr. Giuliani’s participation, that Mr. Giuliani was expressing the concerns of the president," Sondland plans to say, according to the prepared testimony.

A key figure in the   unfolding impeachment inquiry , Sondland had no diplomatic experience before Trump nominated him in 2017 to become ambassador to the E.U., a club of nations that does not include Ukraine. He was a wealthy hotelier who donated about $1 million to Trump’s inaugural committee and refers to himself in his prepared testimony as a “lifelong Republican.”

Nonetheless, Sondland casts blame directly on the president in the 18-page statement he plans to read to House lawmakers before answering their questions in the closed-door session. He also chastises his employer — the State Department — for trying to block his testimony.


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago

The "John Dean" moment may have just arrived. 

Expect more derangement from the "president". 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago
'Expect more derangement from the "president". 

We expect nothing less.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
1.2  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

Sondland threw shade at Trump, while throwing Giuliani under the bus.

.

Meanwhile lost in the "cease fire" surrender of the Kurds to Turkey's 4,000 square mile grab of Northern Syria

is the criticism of political appointee, multi millionaire hotelier, Sondland for insisting on over a million $$ renovation of the

Ambassadors residence in Brussels while he stays at a hotel.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/amid-impeachment-probe-gordon-sondland-is-overseeing-a-renovation-of-his-residence-that-has-cost-1-million-in-taxpayer-money/2019/10/16/d0eece92-ef86-11e9-bb7e-d2026ee0c199_story.html

.

Meanwhile Mike Mulvaney admitted on live TV that quid pro quos are normal everyday events in international politics, so we should all "get over it".

Don't like Giuliani? "Get over it".

That the POTUS can do whatever he wants?  "Get over it".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mulvaney-appears-to-confirm-ukraine-aid-was-contingent-upon-2016-probe/ar-AAIW4Il?ocid=spartanntp

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.2.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Split Personality @1.2    one month ago
Mike Mulvaney admitted on live TV that quid pro quos are normal everyday events

Abuse of power. Plain and simple. The whistleblower's identity is safe as trump's inner circle is confirming what we all know. Impeach in the House and let the Senate investigate as outlined in the Constitution or simply do the McConnell two-step and immediately vote for/against the obvious, put everyone on the record, and defer to the 2020 election. Chicken shit move, but taking care of ones' self (holding the Senate) is the beltway MO. In entertaining thoughts of draining the swamp, he forgot he has no control over the senior body.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2  It Is ME    one month ago

"BREAKING: E.U. Ambassador: Trump pushed Giuliani to have Ukraine investigate his political opponents"

Having "Private lawyers" is Great !

It's such a bad thing to want to investigate "Corruption", ain't it ?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  It Is ME @2    one month ago

It's such a bad thing to want to investigate "Corruption", ain't it ?

so Trump tells us,

.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.1    one month ago
so Trump tells us,

It was all about the "Process". jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @2    one month ago

Nothing but corruption involved with this 'president' and his whole freaking administration and cabinet.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @2.2    one month ago
Nothing but corruption involved with this 'president' and his whole freaking administration and cabinet.  

Now who told you that ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @2.2.1    one month ago

It's quite easy to see and hear if you have your eyes and ears 'open'

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.2.3  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.2    one month ago
It's quite easy to see and hear if you have your eyes and ears 'open'

Your ears have to be listening to something/Someone....right ?

Again:

"who told you that" ?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  It Is ME @2    one month ago

You just don't get it.  Weeding out corruption is a good thing and not illegal.  A sitting POTUS having someone investigate a political opponent IS ILLEGAL.  A corrupt man bitching about corruption not in his own back yard is hypocritical.  Trump is all do as I say and not what what I do.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3    one month ago
A sitting POTUS having someone investigate a political opponent

Shit I must have missed the Democratic convention. That was quick. Oooooh. They had it behind closed doors like the impeachment "investigation". /s

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.3.2  It Is ME  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3    one month ago
Weeding out corruption is a good thing and not illegal.

Didn't I already note that in comment #2 ?

What's good for the Gander, should be good for the Goose too....shouldn't it be ?

 
 
 
squiggy
2.3.3  squiggy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3    one month ago

 “Weeding out corruption is a good thing and not illegal.  A sitting POTUS having someone investigate a political opponent IS ILLEGAL.”

How do you say that, back to back?

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.3.4  Tessylo  replied to  squiggy @2.3.3    one month ago

Because it's truth.  

But then what would tRump supporters know about that?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.3.1    one month ago

Was it the dem party who told 3 foreign governments to investigate Biden.  NOPE.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.4  Ozzwald  replied to  It Is ME @2    one month ago

It's such a bad thing to want to investigate "Corruption", ain't it ?

Private lawyers investigate corruption?  What authority does Giuliani hold to request an official government investigation?

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.1  It Is ME  replied to  Ozzwald @2.4    one month ago
What authority does Giuliani hold to request an official government investigation?

Private Lawyers can go wherever they want, to get info.

Has ANY...… ANY ….. "Government Agency" in this country, told Rudy to stop doing what he....as a Private Citizen....is doing ?

 
 
 
Dulay
2.4.2  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.1    one month ago
Has ANY...… ANY ….. "Government Agency" in this country, told Rudy to stop doing what he....as a Private Citizen....is doing ?

Thank you counselor.

Now that you have admitted that Giuliani was acting as a 'Private Citizen' who is not acting for a 'client' and has NO expectation for a claim of Executive privilege, the Committee will be expecting him to comply with their subpoena. If he doesn't, he should be expecting a visit from the DOJ. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.3  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @2.4.2    one month ago

Has ANY...… ANY ….. "Government Agency" in this country, told Rudy to stop doing what he....as a Private Citizen....is doing ?

Did you notice the "Question Mark" ? jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
2.4.4  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.3    one month ago

Why yes, YES I did. 

BTFW, are you aware that the SDNY and the FBI has been investigating Giuliani and the other Trump sycophants for MONTHS? 

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.5  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @2.4.4    one month ago
Why yes, YES I did. 
BTFW, are you aware that the SDNY and the FBI has been investigating Giuliani and the other Trump sycophants for MONTHS? 

No you didn't. jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

BTFW....did you know NONE OF THEM have told anyone to STOP what they're doing ? jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

? (the Shinny Object) jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
2.4.6  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.5    one month ago
No you didn't.

Are you insisting that I didn't notice the question mark? 

Hilarious!

BTFW....did you know NONE OF THEM have told anyone to STOP what they're doing ?

Of course not. SDNY and the FBI gave them all the rope they needed...

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.7  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @2.4.6    one month ago
Of course not. SDNY and the FBI gave them all the rope they needed...

Of course not ?

It's like you KNOW ! jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

Since "STOPPAGE" hasn't happened ....I guarantee you,  it doesn't rise to a "National" Crises, nor a "Constitutional" crises either !

If it did......They'd be all over it like Flies on Shit !

After all.....just a "Simple" unintended "Fib" to those groups is an IMMIDIATE jailable offense. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Not much to "Worry" about there. 

 
 
 
Dulay
2.4.8  Dulay  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.7    one month ago
If it did......They'd be all over it like Flies on Shit !

Guess you missed the fact that the DOJ took a pass on TWO criminal referrals about this issue. Barr refused to even open an investigation. 

The only thing they are all over like flies is Trump's ass. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.9  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @2.4.8    one month ago

Still NO STOPPAGE.

Everything is STILL AOK !

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.4.10  Ozzwald  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.1    one month ago
Private Lawyers can go wherever they want, to get info.

In case you weren't paying attention, he wasn't trying to GET INFO, he was trying to make a foreign government investigate his client's political rival.

 
 
 
lady in black
2.4.11  lady in black  replied to  Ozzwald @2.4.10    one month ago

Facts don't matter, only alternative facts are true

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.12  It Is ME  replied to  Ozzwald @2.4.10    one month ago
he wasn't trying to GET INFO , he was trying to make a foreign government investigate his client's political rival.

Joe got the nod to run against Trump already ?

By the way …. "To Investigate"....and "To Get Information".....is pretty much the same thing. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.4.13  Ozzwald  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.12    one month ago
Joe got the nod to run against Trump already ?

Apparently Trump thought so.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.4.14  Ozzwald  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.12    one month ago
By the way …. "To Investigate"....and "To Get Information".....is pretty much the same thing.

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

No, it really isn't.  He wasn't the one trying to do the investigation, he was trying to make a foreign government investigate his client's political rival.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.15  It Is ME  replied to  Ozzwald @2.4.14    one month ago
No, it really isn't.

Yes....it really is.

Why does one Investigate ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.4.16  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @2.4.4    one month ago

I had forgotten all about the SDNY investigations, completely forgot!  They're just as damning as anything he's done while in office.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.4.17  Ozzwald  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.15    one month ago

Why does one Investigate ?

Because it is their job to.  That's why they are called "investigators", not lawyers.

And again, Giuliani was NOT TRYING TO GET INFORMATION!  He was trying to make a foreign government investigate his client's political rival.  A country that had already passed on the right wing conspiracy claim.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.18  It Is ME  replied to  Ozzwald @2.4.17    one month ago
Because it is their job to.

Try again. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Here's a lead in for you ….. One Investigates to geeeeeet ……. ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.4.19  Ozzwald  replied to  It Is ME @2.4.18    one month ago
Here's a lead in for you ….. One Investigates to geeeeeet ……. ?

Their paycheck?

Are you trying to claim that Giuliani is investigating Biden himself?  If so, you claim goes against everything Trump and Giuliani  have admitted for themselves.

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.4.20  It Is ME  replied to  Ozzwald @2.4.19    one month ago
Their paycheck?

Try again !

One Investigates to geeeeeet ……. ?

I'll give you the first Letter...… "I". jrSmiley_68_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago

Ever since the transcript of the phone call between Trump and the Ukrainian president came out, there has been a path toward impeachment underway. The committee in Congress has been interviewing witnesses every day.  Nothing has been mentioned as occurring in those interviews that is exculpatory for Trump. Most of the trickle of information that has come out of the committee is that the witnesses are corroborating the most damaging aspects about the phone call and other communications on the subject by other officials. 

Nothing is preventing Republicans or other Trump supporters who have information from speaking out to contradict what is taking place in the hearings, but we are not seeing that. 

Where is Nunes ? He is on that committee. Where is Nunes saying all the interviews are "nothing"?  Or that they show Trump innocence?  

Yes, there will be impeachment. What is Trump's defense ?   "Yes, I did it . So what" ? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4  XDm9mm    one month ago
he'll say, according to prepared testimony obtained by NBC News.

Well hot damn.....   yet more supposition posing as fact.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @4    one month ago

The prepared testimony is a document, not a supposition. NBC News and others know EXACTLY what Sondland will say in his opening statement, which he will read to the committee. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one month ago
The prepared testimony is a document, not a supposition.

Until it sees the light of day as prepared by the man who wrote it, it's supposition.

Oh, and here's another hint.  Since the "committee" operates in a vacuum behind closed doors in secret, you'll never see the "document".  Them's the facts JR, them's the facts.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.1    one month ago
Since the "committee" operates in a vacuum behind closed doors in secret, you'll never see the "document". 

News media already has the document. It is standard procedure to release opening statements ,by witnesses at congressional hearings, to the media prior to the start of the hearing. It happens all the time. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    one month ago
News media already has the document.

When it's released by the committee, I'll believe what the media claims.  They don't have what anyone can claim to be a stellar record of truthfulness or reliability.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.4  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.2    one month ago
It is standard procedure to release opening statements ,by witnesses at congressional hearings, to the media prior to the start of the hearing. It happens all the time. 

I apologize JR.  I meant to posit this earlier but I was interrupted by a contractor at the door.

If it's such "standard procedure", exactly where are all of the previous statements by the previous 'witnesses'.  You know, like Volker, and the former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, and all the other "witnesses" that have appeared? 

Oh, and I do need to ask why are the transcripts of those BEHIND CLOSED DOOR SECRET hearings even being denied access to senior Democrat Congressional Representatives as well as Republicans?  Are they fearful that the information is so bad that even intelligent honest and fair Democrats would call them on the bullshit going on?

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.5  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.1    one month ago

The prior opening statements were released by the witnesses. 

It was released yesterday by Sondland. 

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6486437-Opening-Statement-Ambassador-Sondland-October-17

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @4.1.5    one month ago

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Dulay
4.1.7  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.4    one month ago
I meant to posit this earlier but I was interrupted by a contractor at the door.
If it's such "standard procedure", exactly where are all of the previous statements by the previous 'witnesses'.  You know, like Volker, and the former Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, and all the other "witnesses" that have appeared? 

It looks to me like you have been interrupted by more than a contractor at the door. Anyone with a modicum of curiosity already knows that both Volker an Yovanovitch released their opening statements the day they were deposed. Since then, George Kent released his opening statement. ALL are available online. 

Oh, and I do need to ask why are the transcripts of those BEHIND CLOSED DOOR SECRET hearings even being denied access to senior Democrat Congressional Representatives as well as Republicans?

First of all, they aren't 'hearings', they are DEPOSITIONS. Depositions are NOT taken in open hearings. 

Secondly, the Chairman of the Committee which called or subpoenaed the witness controls access AND decides whether depositions are released to the Congress as a whole. There is a PROCESS for reviewing the transcript of depositions, by the Committee and the witness that can take a couple weeks.

THOSE are the House rules and anyone in Congress whining about it is gaslighting you. It seems to be working. 

BTFW, Nunes and ALL of the other GOP Congressmen who are on the three Committees of jurisdiction ARE participating in the depositions. The last thing Nunes posted was on Sept, 26th and not ONE press release by the Minority since the depositions began. NOTHING, NADA. 

 Are they fearful that the information is so bad that even intelligent honest and fair Democrats would call them on the bullshit going on?

Goody, a question based on an utterly uninformed posit. 

Tell you what, why don't you jump on Nunes' twitter or facebook accounts and ask him why he isn't informing you about the what's going on in the House Intel SCIF. There are 45 other GOP Congressmen that have access that you can go whine to also. 

 
 
 
JBB
5  JBB    one month ago

By any historical standards of comparison what Donald Trump has been coldass busted doing this time is exactly the worst sort of high crimes that our Founders imagined. For conspiring with foreign governments against the laws and the people of The United States of America Donald J. Trump must be impeached, convicted and removed from office forthwith. There are no good reasons for anyone to hesitant any longer. It can all be done quit quickly. JUST DO IT!

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5    one month ago

Perhaps you should write or call your Democratic leaders and push for that then.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    one month ago

OMG, is that bad because when Obama used four foreign intell agencies to spy on the opposition political campaign you said nothing.

Can you say what's good for the Obama is good for all?

The solution is for your party to find an actual electable candidate. You did see the debates the other night didn't you? Get a real candidate, get some actual sane policy and beat the donald at the ballot box.

It's just silly to continue the gotcha moments. The media is full of shit.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6    one month ago

When did that happen?

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    one month ago
When did that happen?

[Deleted]

 
 
 
JBB
6.1.2  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    one month ago

He is just making shit up, again...

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.1    one month ago

Never watch them.  Trivial reality garbage TV.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.3    one month ago
Never watch them. 

Sure ! jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

"Trivial reality garbage TV. "

Make that …..."Trivial reality garbage News"....and you've actually got something there ! jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

Try it ! jrSmiley_32_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.4    one month ago

"Trivial reality garbage News"

I wasn't talking about Faux 'news' or this 'president'

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.6  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.5    one month ago
I wasn't talking about Faux 'news'

I figured. 

So....what were you talking about, as to whom you "Listen" to ?

Quick.....

What does "Faux" mean ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.4    one month ago

You know my only guilty pleasure when it comes to 'reality tv' is Love after Lockup and Life After Lockup (same show).  Last season I actually liked some of the characters.  This season, eh, a lot of idiots.  I know everyone deserves a second chance and all that good shit but I wouldn't go out with/trust any of these people.  

A lot of the shit on this show has to be scripted also.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.8  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.7    one month ago

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It Is ME
6.1.9  It Is ME  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.1    one month ago

[Deleted]

[Only one comment here was meant as a personal insult, and it was ticketed.]

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.10  It Is ME  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.9    one month ago

Mellowed things out didn't it. jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

See Comment #6.1.7.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6    one month ago

too compare Obama to Trump...

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.2.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.2    one month ago

Good point, Trump's job approval number is 5% higher.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.2.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.2.1    one month ago

as his supporters are obviously 105% smarter

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.3  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.2.1    one month ago
Good point, Trump's job approval number is 5% higher.

Nope. 

Obama average Oct. 17, 2011 + 51.7 / -43.7

Trump average Oct. 18, 2019  +42.6 / - 54.1

So Trump's approval number is 9.1 % LOWER than Obama's at the same time in his first term.

 
 
 
JBB
6.3  JBB  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6    one month ago

The whole truth is that many among Trump's inner circle (Manafort, Stone, Coen, Flynn, Page and many others) were inadvertantly caught illegally conspiring with known agents of Ukrainian and Russian State Intelligence Services regarding illegal campaign activities during the Presidential campaign of 2016. That is how Trump and Co came to be observed by both American and other nation's intelligence agencies. There is absolutely no evidence that President Obama had anything to do with it or of anyone in his administration ever illegally conspiring with foreign heads of state to manufacture dirt on Trump. None Zero Zip Nada! Unless you have evidence he did, which nobody has seen, then your lameass contention is not butt false grace of the n'th degree. Just 100% Pure D Guarantee Bullshit! Really, "At long last, have you no shame?"

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.3.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JBB @6.3    one month ago

Your party got caught pitching a fake narrative to justify spying on the opposition political campaign and then tried to unseat him. It's the biggest scandal in US history and when the investigation results are dumped before the 2020 election you will have no one but your own party to blame for the donald's re-election.

You and your buddies are behind the caboose pushing the trump train. You should rest, the election is still a ways off.

 
 
 
JBB
6.3.2  JBB  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.3.1    one month ago

Except that this time we Americans have all the proof right in front of us that Trump & Co managed to deny to us that last time. Coldass Busted They Are!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.3.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.3.1    one month ago

sorry Fish,

but you're floppin

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.3.4  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.3.1    one month ago

That same old garbage?

Priceless

When are the indictments coming for the Obama administration?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.3.5  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JBB @6.3.2    one month ago

I was able to acquire a tear collector from the Clinton's. It's for sale

512

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.3.6  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.4    one month ago
When are the indictments coming for the Obama administration?

Give it at least 2 years ! Barr, Durham and Giuliani are still working on it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.3.7  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @6.3.6    one month ago

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I kept thinking, some posters have been saying, all those indictments are just around the corner.  

Hmmm, maybe they've not actually been talking about the Obama administration all along.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.3.8  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.7    one month ago
Hmmm, maybe they've not actually been talking about the Obama administration all along.  

You should be on the "I know" train....instead of on the "Maybe" train.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.3.9  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.3.1    one month ago
Your party got caught pitching a fake narrative to justify spying on the opposition political campaign and then tried to unseat him. 

I'm going to presume that you meant that comment seriously. 

You don't have one iota of evidence to support that claim. 

Did you read the Senate report that just came out? 

It's the biggest scandal in US history and when the investigation results are dumped before the 2020 election you will have no one but your own party to blame for the donald's re-election.

Don't you have to wait for Ukraine finish their investigation too? 

You and your buddies are behind the caboose pushing the trump train.

Bullshit. With all of the GOP Congress back there, there isn't any room behind Trump's caboose. 

You should rest, the election is still a ways off.

You must be the only one not being inundated with Trump campaign pabulum. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.3.10  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.3.5    one month ago

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Dulay
6.4  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6    one month ago
OMG, is that bad because when Obama used four foreign intell agencies to spy on the opposition political campaign you said nothing.

Prove it. 

Can you say what's good for the Obama is good for all?

Prove your allegation so we can hold others to the same standard. 

The solution is for your party to find an actual electable candidate. You did see the debates the other night didn't you? Get a real candidate, get some actual sane policy and beat the donald at the ballot box.

The ISSUE isn't electoral, it's Constitutional. 

It's just silly to continue the gotcha moments. The media is full of shit.

Trump insists that his call was perfect, A plurality disagree. Trump 'got' Trump by conspiring to use his office for his own private gain. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.4.1  Dulay  replied to  Dulay @6.4    one month ago

Still waiting for you to prove your allegation BF. Tic toc. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.5  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6    one month ago

That's TWO comments in this thread that are just sycophantic arble-garble. Try harder. 

 
 
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