Do Democrats Hate Democracy?

  
Via:  donald-j-trump-fan-1  •  2 months ago  •  22 comments

By:   Philip Carl Salzman

Do Democrats Hate Democracy?
There is no clearer example of the contempt that the Democrat Party has for democracy than its rejection of the 2016 presidential election results. From even before the election, Democrats were plotting to overthrow, through impeachment, the duly-elected president of the United States. What followed were multiple impeachment initiatives on the part of the Democrat Party, each in search of a justification. So American voters were treated to the Russia hoax, the obstruction hoax, the emoluments...

Yes they do. They demanded Trump express he’d support the election results even if he lost and then when they shockingly did, the losers then attempted one coup after another to overthrow the 2016 election and most recently through impeachment deny us our choice for the 2020 ballot as well.  That party as presently constituted is a clear and present danger to the very survival of our constitutional republic.  


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


The most basic rule of democracy is that everyone must accept the results of legitimate elections. Accepting election results is the  sine qua non  of democracy. It is accepting election results that makes peaceful transitions of office possible, and that avoids civil wars.

There is no clearer example of the contempt that the Democrat Party has for democracy than its rejection of the 2016 presidential election results. From even before the election, Democrats were plotting to overthrow, through impeachment, the duly-elected president of the United States. What followed were multiple impeachment initiatives on the part of the Democrat Party, each in search of a justification. So American voters were treated to the Russia hoax, the obstruction hoax, the emoluments hoax, the Ukraine hoax, and most recently the unconstitutional absurdities of “abuse of power” and “contempt of Congress,” all aimed at nullifying the 2016 election.

But there are endless examples of Democrat Party violations of democratic norms. The setting aside of Democrat primary voters in favor of superdelegates appointed by the party establishment allows the Party to override the will of Democrat voters, as happened in 2016 when the party establishment put its thumb on the scale in favor of Hillary Clinton and against Bernie Sanders. In the 2020 primaries, the Democrat National Committee has changed the rules of debate participation to smooth the way for billionaire Mike Bloomberg, who is seen, in contrast to socialist Bernie Sanders, as a moderate.

For his part, Bernie Sanders is not a member of the Democrat Party, but a Democratic Socialist. Unfortunately for Sanders, the fate of democracy under socialism is well known. If you are not executed for belonging to the wrong economic class or expressing a politically incorrect opinion, as happened in the U.S.S.R., the People’s Republic of China, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Castro’s Cuba, and Venezuela, you may be allowed to vote for the candidate nominated by the Socialist or Communist Party. One-party “democracy” is a beautiful thing — if you are a socialist.

The Democrat Party’s rejection of democracy is also seen in its violation of rules of fairness and norms of due process. The impeachment investigation run by the House Democrats ran roughshod over the rights of their Republican colleagues, who had the right under House rules to call witnesses, interrogate witnesses, see the transcripts of all witnesses, and have time to present their case. The president also should have been allowed to have his lawyers present to question witnesses and defend the president. None of this happened in the fixed kangaroo court that was the Democrat House investigation, which was completely one-sided. This violation of procedure not only harmed the president and the Republican minority of the House but also the voters who elected the president and the Republican members of the House. The Democrats trampled over their interests.

Not satisfied with trying to overturn the 2016 presidential election, the Democrat Party, led by Adam Schiff, is trying to block the 2020 election. “The president’s misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured that the vote will be fairly won,” he  said . Schiff judges “fairly won” not on the basis of the procedures used, but on the outcome. For Schiff, the re-election of Trump would be sufficient proof of an illegitimate election.

At base, the problem is that the Democrat Party does not trust the demos, the voters. On the contrary, the Democrat Party believes that for too many American voters are “deplorables,” bigots, violators of all that is politically correct and dear to the hearts of the woke Democrats. If the “deplorable” Americans are allowed to vote, they might — they undoubtedly would — vote for the wrong candidate; in this case, they might re-elect Donald Trump, which, as far as Democrats are concerned, would be illegitimate. Democrats have now made explicit their despotic tendencies and their desire for power above all else. While they constantly invoke the Constitution, saying that they are acting to protect it, in fact, they are shredding it. The Democrat Party is a threat to American democracy.


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Donald J. Trump Fan #1
1  seeder  Donald J. Trump Fan #1    2 months ago

The Democrat Party’s rejection of democracy is also seen in its violation of rules of fairness and norms of due process. The impeachment investigation run by the House Democrats ran roughshod over the rights of their Republican colleagues, who had the right under House rules to call witnesses, interrogate witnesses, see the transcripts of all witnesses, and have time to present their case. The president also should have been allowed to have his lawyers present to question witnesses and defend the president. None of this happened in the fixed kangaroo court that was the Democrat House investigation, which was completely one-sided. This violation of procedure not only harmed the president and the Republican minority of the House but also the voters who elected the president and the Republican members of the House. The Democrats trampled over their interests.

Not satisfied with trying to overturn the 2016 presidential election, the Democrat Party, led by Adam Schiff, is trying to block the 2020 election. “The president’s misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured that the vote will be fairly won,” he  said . Schiff judges “fairly won” not on the basis of the procedures used, but on the outcome. For Schiff, the re-election of Trump would be sufficient proof of an illegitimate election.

At base, the problem is that the Democrat Party does not trust the demos, the voters. On the contrary, the Democrat Party believes that for too many American voters are “deplorables,” bigots, violators of all that is politically correct and dear to the hearts of the woke Democrats. If the “deplorable” Americans are allowed to vote, they might — they undoubtedly would — vote for the wrong candidate; in this case, they might re-elect Donald Trump, which, as far as Democrats are concerned, would be illegitimate. https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/49499/do-democrats-hate-democracy

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
1.1.1  seeder  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @1.1    2 months ago

President Trump is truly a great leader and a courageous man.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
2  bbl-1    2 months ago

The headline, "Do Democrats Hate Democracy" and the ensuing commentary by P.C. Salzman. 

The answer.  Nah.  Only the Putin sympathizers and the lemming MAGA hat crowd does that.  

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
2.1  seeder  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  bbl-1 @2    2 months ago

Those democrat conspiracy theories were manufactured by Russia as it was the Dems and Obama who collided with Russia.  Democrats betrayed America to try to keep Trump from becoming President and then attempt a coup against we the people.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
2.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @2.1    2 months ago

Of course, CH4P.  The dolt even said, "I'm a stable genius." 

When you need straw to make the bricks, get out of the soybean field.  The wheat field is down the road.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
2.1.2  seeder  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.1    2 months ago

Ah, one who remembers my fine and illustrious past as the one and only, the great Cornhusker4Palin!  

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @2.1.2    2 months ago
the great Cornhusker4Palin!  

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Ender
2.1.4  Ender  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @2.1.2    2 months ago

We all know who you are despite the numerous name changes.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
2.1.5  seeder  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.3    2 months ago

Blushing....thank you!  

 
 
 
bbl-1
2.1.6  bbl-1  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @2.1.2    2 months ago

We may disagree my friend on many issues, but, I still like you, admire your tenacity, wit and gosh darn it, your absolute absoluteness.  That takes verve.  And yes, the V is not silent.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.2  Ronin2  replied to  bbl-1 @2    2 months ago

As compared to the moronic seditious Democrats who were demanding that electoral college delegates change their votes to Hillary since she won the popular vote. Used the Steele Dossier to launch an illegal investigation into a political opponent's campaign. Have been trying to get Trump impeached as soon as he won the election. Have launched countless investigations into everything Trump. And conducted a kangaroo court impeachment inquiry in the House?

The Democrats love Democracy so long as they are in charge, and can dictate everything about it.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
2.2.1  seeder  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    2 months ago

That is their bottom line.  As long as they are in charge and can impose one size fits all solutions and cram their agenda down our unwilling throats as is well with them.  But sharing power and treating the other side with civility, dialogue, and respect?  Well they can’t have any of that!  

 
 
 
r.t..b...
2.2.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @2.2.1    2 months ago
cram their agenda down our unwilling throats

Funny that...from a recipient oh so willing to swallow the load while on their knees of obsequiousness.

 
 
 
Ender
2.2.3  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @2.2    2 months ago

Funny from those oh so willing to have an autocracy.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
2.3  seeder  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  bbl-1 @2    one month ago

Yes, they do!  

 
 
 
It Is ME
4  It Is ME    2 months ago

The Democrats attempt to polish its fallen and beaten brand..... "Win by Removal" .  

"A Better Deal" ... ( Papa Johns jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif ).  

 
 
 
squiggy
5  squiggy    2 months ago

No way - when did they start that?

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squiggy
6  squiggy    2 months ago

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Ender
7  Ender    2 months ago

A sad day when all some people have is to try to divide the country and denigrate a large portion of the population.

Funny the outrage some people had being called deplorable and all the while these same people do nothing but disparage others.

 
 
 
squiggy
8  squiggy    2 months ago

"Funny the outrage some people had being called deplorable..."

There was no outrage. Calling me deplorable was the same as calling me soldier - it may be a denigrating term to you but it defined me, my beliefs and my company.

 
 
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