The Disinformation Campaign Being Launched Against Biden

  
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The Disinformation Campaign Being Launched Against Biden
There is no data to support the allegation that he is in cognitive decline.

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During a town hall on Fox News Thursday night, Trump once again   alluded   to the idea that Biden is   unfit for office . While the lies about the Bidens and Burisma will likely continue, the Daily Caller   reports   that this new line of attack will be a focus for Republicans and the Trump campaign.

This issue, however, is not simply being raised by Trump and his enablers. Steve Friess   reports   that a memo about Biden’s “cognitive decline” is circulating among Sanders’ supporters.


The Bernie Sanders presidential campaign is disavowing a list of post-Super Tuesday talking points distributed to supporters and surrogates on Wednesday morning that suggest Sanders partisans attack a resurgent Joe Biden on his “record and obvious cognitive decline.”

The material, seen by   Newsweek , was posted on various social media sites and on internal WhatsApp groups for supporters of the independent Vermont senator as an official campaign communique, but Sanders communications director Mike Caspa said he’d never seen it before.

“That’s not a real document,” he told   Newsweek . “It’s not ours.”

“This is now a 2-person race, and there will be heightened scrutiny on Biden’s record and obvious cognitive decline,” the document reads.

The message is obviously getting out there.

All of this feels very familiar. During the 2016 election, both Trump and the Sanders camp attempted to paint Hillary Clinton as corrupt. Now, both sides have teamed up on an attack against Biden.

We’ve all watched Biden stumble with words during debates and extemporaneous speeches. So as people committed to examining facts and evidence, it is important to gather what we know about this particular attack and not simply dismiss it because of the sources from which it is emanating.

The first thing that is important to do is to define the terms. Here is how the Mayo Clinic   defines   cognitive impairment.


Mild cognitive impairment (MCI) is the stage between the expected cognitive decline of normal aging and the more serious decline of dementia. It can involve problems with memory, language, thinking and judgment that are greater than normal age-related changes.

If you have mild cognitive impairment, you may be aware that your memory or mental function has “slipped.” Your family and close friends also may notice a change. But these changes aren’t severe enough to significantly interfere with your daily life and usual activities.

Mild cognitive impairment may increase your risk of later developing dementia caused by Alzheimer’s disease or other neurological conditions. But some people with mild cognitive impairment never get worse, and a few eventually get better.

The second piece of evidence to consider is that in December, Biden   released   a three-page summary of his medical history in which “his doctor declared he is a ‘healthy, vigorous’ 77-year-old fully capable of taking on the role of president.” Here is what Stuart Jay Olshansky, a professor of public health at the University of Illinois at Chicago who analyzes the longevity of presidents, said about cognitive abilities after reviewing the report.


“The only test that hasn’t been done is the cognitive functioning test,” Olshansky added. “But the fact that he’s on the campaign trail and meeting a rigorous travel and meeting schedule probably would suffice as a replacement for the formal test for cognitive functioning.”
He said that cognitive tests are typically not required unless problems are detected.

In the January/February issue of   The Atlantic , John Hendrickson   writes   that “[Biden’s] verbal stumbles have voters worried about his mental fitness. Maybe they’d be more understanding if they knew he’s still fighting a stutter.”


A stutter does not get worse as a person ages, but trying to keep it at bay can take immense physical and mental energy. Biden talks all day to audiences both small and large. In addition to periodically stuttering or blocking on certain sounds, he appears to intentionally   not stutter   by switching to an alternative word—a technique called “circumlocution”—­which can yield mangled syntax. I’ve been following practically everything he’s said for months now, and sometimes what is quickly characterized as a memory lapse is indeed a stutter. As Eric Jackson, the speech pathologist, pointed out to me, during a town hall in August Biden briefly blocked on   Obama , before quickly subbing in   my boss . The headlines after the event? “ Biden Forgets Obama’s Name .” Other times when Biden fudges a detail or loses his train of thought, it seems unrelated to stuttering, like he’s just making a mistake. The kind of mistake other candidates make too, though less frequently than he does.

As a stutterer himself, Hendrickson critiques Biden for suggesting that he overcame his stutter.


Emma Alpern is a 32-year-old copy editor who co-leads the Brooklyn chapter of the National Stuttering Association and co-founded NYC Stutters, which puts on a day-long conference for stuttering de­stigmatization. Alpern told me that she’s on a group text with other stutterers who regularly discuss Biden, and that it’s been “frustrating” to watch the media portray Biden’s speech impediment as a sign of mental decline or dishonesty. “Biden allows that to happen by not naming it for what it is,” she said, though she’s not sure that his presidential candidacy would benefit if he were more forthcoming. “I think he’s dug himself into a hole of not saying that he still stutters for so long that it would strike people as a little weird.”
Biden has presented the same life story for decades. He’s that familiar face—Uncle Joe…He’s the dependable guy, the tenacious guy, the aviators-and-crossed-arms guy. That guy doesn’t stutter; that guy   used to   stutter.

That is the data we have available about Joe Biden’s cognitive capabilities. What it all comes down to is that there is an alternative explanation for his verbal stumbles and his medical records did not indicate a cognitive impairment.

Brandy X. Lee, one of the mental health professionals who has been very vocal about Trump’s unfitness for office,   explained   why a declination to diagnose Biden is in keeping with professional standards.


I do not diagnose without examination and do not speak about public figures in general, unless there is evidence of such profound danger to public health and well-being because of serious signs of mental instability in a public servant, that it would be a public disservice not to share the knowledge and training that I have. Biden has not risen to this threshold…
I never spoke up about a president or a presidential candidate either before or after Donald Trump, and neither have thousands of mental health professionals who have come forth with similar concerns in ways that are unprecedented in U.S. history, for any president of any party. I only speak up when there is a   medical need   of such great magnitude as to risk the survival of the human species. This is definitively Donald Trump, not Biden. Nor is it Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, or any other false equivalences people wish to create for political purposes.

Here is how another mental health professional   described   the comparison to David Knowles.


Biden “digresses and gets tangential, that’s not cognitive decline,” Lynne Meyer, a California psychologist told Yahoo News. “Trump’s cognitive decline or problems are that he doesn’t even seem to have comprehension of reality. That’s what it looks like.”

We are about to be subjected to a massive disinformation campaign against Joe Biden, and this one will be particularly pernicious. But for those of us who are fact-based, it is important to keep in mind that there is no data to support the allegations that are being made.

UPDATE   3/8/20: As this disinformation campaign grows, more people are weighing in. Here is an   informative thread   from Twitter:


I have extensive research training in both the domains of developmental psychology and speech/language disorders. Let me be clear: Joe Biden has a stutter. When you mock him for this or turn it into something else, you are causing harm to other people who stutter.

Stuttering is extremely heterogeneous in its manifestations. Researchers are still working hard at uncovering the psycho-social, cognitive, and linguistic factors that underlie stuttering, as well as factors that predict who responds to certain therapy, which tactics work, etc.

But many people who stutter do stutter persistently through life, even if they have responded well to speech-language therapy. And stuttering *can* correlate w/ word-replacements, circumlocutions, etc.

And *stop* equating normal speech patterns that correlate w/ stuttering to dementia. You are hurting people who stutter AND people who have dementia. Not to mention their loved ones. Dehumanizing many people at once AND spreading harmful, ableist misinformation…

I do not want to speak for people who stutter, but I will speak from a research perspective, as well as from a perspective of someone who knows many people who stutter.

Sometimes to avoid perseverating on a specific sound, someone will back up & choose a different linguistic route–begin a different sentence, for example. Or substitute a word. Do *not* mock this process.

Also, the stereotype of stuttering is *not* entirely accurate. The stereotype is typically repetition of sounds. This is 1manifestation of stuttering, but there are many other features, such as long pauses, perseverating (but not repeating) a sound, etc Stop spreading misinfo!

And, yes, fatigue and stress can exacerbate stuttering, even for people who have developed very successful tactics. This does NOT disqualify someone from being president. To claim otherwise is ableist.

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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

I think Biden misspeaks himself more than we would like to see, but he is more fit to be president than Trump in every way possible. As are everyone else in public life. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

Biden IS mentally unfit to be president. That obvious fact would have everything to do with a Biden administration. Should he be elected, Biden would be a proxy for those who helped get him elected. They would in effect be running his administration. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    3 weeks ago

Yep, the DC swamp culture is licking its chops with Biden after being taken to task for three plus years by the Trump administration.

A better puppet they could not have than Joe ....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

At a recent "rally" Joe may have spilled the beans when he said "We cannot win this re-election. We can only re-elect Donald Trump."

Out of the mouth of babes!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.1    3 weeks ago
Yep, the DC swamp culture is licking its chops with Biden after being taken to task for three plus years by the Trump administration.

what a bunch of nonsense. Trump has the most corrupt administration in history

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

Nope but keep holding on to that fantasy John if it helps

 
 
 
Split Personality
1.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

Even though Twitter has finally taken down the truncated version of Biden's remarks, plenty of other sources

truthfully reported it in full.

Apparently the first time, Twitter Inc. has flagged a post retweeted by President Donald Trump as “manipulated media.”

The tweet came from Dan Scavino, the White House’s social media director, who posted an edited video of former Vice President Joe Biden saying: “We can only re-elect Donald Trump.”

But the actual, unedited quote, which came from a Biden speech in Kansas City, Mo., on Saturday, was: “We can only reelect Donald Trump if in fact we get engaged in this circular firing squad here.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/twitter-flags-biden-video-retweeted-by-trump-as-manipulated-media-2020-03-08

It's like dejavu with all of the old Obama & Bush statements taken out of context, or deliberately manipulated into a falsehood.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.5    3 weeks ago
It's like dejavu with all of the old Obama & Bush statements taken out of context

Or the Trump ones.....I wonder how it feels?

 
 
 
lib50
1.1.7  lib50  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

Examples of what Trump ones you are talking about?   

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  lib50 @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

So many to choose from. How about when as a candidate he said “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.” 

That was widely reported (to this very day) as Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary's or the DNC server.


 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

"You can't handle the truth!" (A Few Good Men)

 
 
 
CB
1.1.10  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    3 weeks ago

UNTRUE.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

It's proven the gop can't win without their dirty filthy tricks.  

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

Biden is a stuttering, doddering, forgetful, corrupt old man.....totally unfit and unprepared to be president. 

He would be a puppet for the far left extremists who appear to control the party.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 weeks ago
He would be a puppet for the far left extremists who appear to control the party

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XDm9mm
1.2.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

JR,  are they watching the Biden campaign speech where he's not sure of what office he's running for, or which state he's in (besides the state of confusion of course), or even if he's running for reelection or possibly his name which came out a Obiden the other night?

 
 
 
Split Personality
1.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 weeks ago
Biden is a stuttering, doddering, forgetful, corrupt old man.....totally unfit and unprepared to be president. 

Sure Wally...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.2.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.3    3 weeks ago

Walks of lice?  Was he talking about his rally's?  The video stopped on me.  Was smocking gun in the video?

 
 
 
Split Personality
1.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.2.4    3 weeks ago

There are 2 you tubes for 2018 & 2019

The 2017 list was on some website affiliated with the Daily Show.

They cover it all, coffevve, smocking guns, everything.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.2.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.5    3 weeks ago

Hey! Coffevve is my favorite new word. You can use it in so many ways:

Please put the creamer in my coffevve.

Did I meet you at the last coffevve the office had

If I tell you something in coffevve, will you promise to keep it quiet?

I love a parade with coffevve and ticker tape.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.7  CB   replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 weeks ago

UNTRUE. Dress it up any way you want to it is still UNTRUE.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.8  CB   replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

UNTRUE. Propaganda: break free of it!

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.2.9  XDm9mm  replied to  CB @1.2.8    3 weeks ago
UNTRUE. Propaganda: break free of it!

Quite true.   Hell, the VIDEO says it all!!

Maybe you should come out into the light of day from the hidey hole you buried yourself in to finally see reality.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.10  CB   replied to  XDm9mm @1.2.9    3 weeks ago

Okay, WHAT video? Can you produce it. And what hidey hole? I am here more often than you "beaming."

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.3  gooseisgone  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago
Biden misspeaks himself more than we would like

The question should be, why?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  seeder  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago
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Once again, talking about ANYBODY’S cognitive decline with trump out there blabbering and slurring is downright laughable.
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago

Trump is in much better shape mentally than Biden.

There's a reason Biden's appearances are limited so drastically. I think he spoke for 10 minutes at his last rally.  Even a supporter described how a Biden rally consists of just hoping he doesn't embarrass himself and gets through the speech without any noticeable failures.

After all the whining about Trump's mental health, it's the classic progressive move to nominate someone who may have to stand down before the election because he can't handle the demands of the campaign.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    3 weeks ago

when you can't pronounce the word "orange" properly, chances are there is something wrong with you

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.1.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    3 weeks ago

Can't remember where I read/saw it, but the incumbent president and his challenger are to have a face-off prior to the election, right?  If so, Joe is gonna be pure, crumbly burnt toast against Trump's aggressiveness - and Jill ain't gonna be able to help him.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    3 weeks ago
when you can't pronounce the word "orange" properly, chances are there is something wrong with you

Orange is fine, you mean "origin".  Don't forget the times our current President lost his own limo.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
2.1.4  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    3 weeks ago
Trump is in much better shape mentally than Biden.

Like Trump has never said anything that couldn't be attributed to senility or, insanity......

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Paula Bartholomew
2.1.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

Especially when orange is what he sees in a mirror.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

He will be the bully he is.

 
 
 
JBB
3  JBB    3 weeks ago

We see it over and over. Arch conservative trolls across the internet repeating the lie that Joe Biden is impaired. He is not. The numerous Democratic candidates who know Joe well have endorsed him exactly because he is the best man for the job. He is also strongest against Trump in the swing states Democrats must win to win the Electoral College. The damn gop is desperate to derail Biden's campaign. Well, Too Late! 

Sure Joe makes gaffes now and then. He always has. Same old Joe we love and know. Obama's Legacy. Compared with gasbag Trump Joe is still solid as a rock. So, ready or not Trumpsters Joe Biden is coming right at Trump and he intends on winning BIG. Poor olde Trump is in full on panic mode. Markets are tanking. The virus is spreading like wildfire. Trump's chances are floundering like a bloated corpse on the Hudson. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @3    3 weeks ago

Basically, the Democrats have to get out their vote. If they do that Trump is toast. 

 
 
 
JBB
3.1.1  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 weeks ago

By November people will be so sick and tired of Trump's idiotic corrupt nonsense the damn gop will lose the Senate and dozens more House seats besides the Presidency...

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 weeks ago

Great plan, worked out super for you in 2016.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

definite possibility if he keeps on lying about pandemic and never ending praising his shit initial handling of this mess.

Trump suppo9rters who act more concerned about Biden's mental well being over Trump's are thoroughly fooling only themselves.

 
 
 
JBB
3.1.4  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

Except Trump pulled an inside straight out of the Electoral College in 2016 while losing the popular vote by 3%. In 2018 the damn gop lost the midterm popular vote by 8%. Projections are that Trump will lose by 10% or even more in 2020. It is a whole new ballgame...

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @3.1.4    3 weeks ago
Except Trump pulled an inside straight out of the Electoral College in 2016 while losing the popular vote by 3%.

More like Hillary misplayed her hand badly and got her ass handed to her by a harder working Trump.

In 2018 the damn gop lost the midterm popular vote by 8%.

Not unusual in the least for a midterm election.   In fact, that is typical for a midterm.   Nothing to see here .... move along now .....

Projections are that Trump will lose by 10% or even more in 2020. It is a whole new ballgame...

Your only hope is that something like this Corona virus lowers Trumps chances but by all means hold on to the fantasy.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.6  r.t..b...  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.5    3 weeks ago
something like this Corona virus lowers Trumps chances

It is not the virus per se, but the way in which his administration deals with a national crisis. So far, all we have heard is the diminishing of it's severity, conflated information as to our readiness, spurious claims of responsibility and lots of finger-pointing. Not a great start, but indicative of the attitudes of his leadership style.

He has waded among relatively calm waters this term. All eyes will be watching to see how he reacts when the water gets choppy. I can only hope he can somehow change course and see beyond his reelection campaign and deal with this in an honest, transparent manner and in consultation with the multiple agencies required to see to our collective health and well-being.         Little faith in that happening.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.6    3 weeks ago

Meh, the reactions to Trumps reactions to this tend to be heavily tainted by TDS.  

Overreactions to what he didn't say or do and vice versa.   Under-reactions to what he did say or do and vice versa.   Etc, etc .... the administrations reactions have surely not been perfect but they rarely are for any admin and they HAVE NOT been as bad as many are trying to paint them imo.   Again, heavily influenced by the clear and present TDS out there right now.

Do you really think you can look at this situation with a truly unbiased eye?

I have my doubts about that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.7    3 weeks ago
  Again, heavily influenced by the clear and present TDS out there right now.

"TDS" does not exist. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    3 weeks ago
"TDS" does not exist. 

One could only hope i suppose.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.10  r.t..b...  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.7    3 weeks ago
Do you really think you can look at this situation with a truly unbiased eye? I have my doubts about that.

Ignoring the construct of the comment, throw in the oh so lazy TDS trope and think you have somehow scored a point. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 weeks ago
Basically, the Democrats have to get out their vote. If they do that Trump is toast. 

Democrats got out the vote in 2016. Didn't seem to help Hillary much.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.10    3 weeks ago

Nah, i'm not ignoring anything.   Especially the clear and present allegedly "lazy" TDS "trope."   Yeah, i wouldn't want that shingle hung on my door either.

In reality there is little for the truly unbiased to realistically complain about this admins reaction to the Corona virus issue.   I know, some folks don't like some of what Trump has said but most of that was simply taken out of context by heavily TDS ridden sources.   Trump will be screwed according to those sources no matter how he response.   He has done NOTHING right in their minds ..... TDS ridden minds.

You can't or won't see that.    Understood.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
3.1.13  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.2    3 weeks ago
Great plan, worked out super for you in 2016.

Actually, it worked out just fine in 2018, same plan will win us the Senate, we'll keep the House and, we'll take the White House, in the mean time ya'all will be crying in your Moonshine.

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.14  Sparty On  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1.13    3 weeks ago

Asked and answered.   2018 was a historically typical result of a midterm election.   Nothing really cogent to see there.

But by all means, hang your hat on that and run with it.   You won't like the results

Now back to the Kale/Tofu nuggets for you .... i gotta take another pull off my shine jar before grilling that Tenderloin.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.15  r.t..b...  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.12    3 weeks ago

I can’t or won’t see what? Twice now you’ve invoked TDS in response to a post. If you, in some odd sense of fealty, consider my commentary “deranged” that, my friend, is totally your right, and all that is needed to know. Understood indeed. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
3.1.16  Sparty On  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.15    3 weeks ago
I can’t or won’t see what

Can’t explain it any clearer friend.    At this point it’s best If we stop this right here.    We can go at it if choose but it clearly won’t end in any kind of agreement.

Your call ......

 
 
 
MonsterMash
3.1.17  MonsterMash  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    3 weeks ago

Alcoholic: "I'm not an alcoholic"

TDS sufferer: "TDS" does not exist

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JBB @3    3 weeks ago

He doesn't need the Hudson for that.  He always looks like a bloated corpse.  Speaking of the word corpse, remember when Trump pronounced the C in USMC as just that...corpse.  But then again, a draft dodger would not know how to pronounce it correctly.

 
 
 
Sparty On
4  Sparty On    3 weeks ago

This article is rich considering the constant disinformation campaign thats been waged against anything Trump for three plus years.

So boo hoo ..... someone is calling a spade a spade on shotgun Joe with his clear and present senility

Squirt a few for me ......

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sparty On @4    3 weeks ago

You so quickly forget what a grownup administration is after Trump's lay to waste.

Ole crazy Joe will appoint only qualified candidates whle Trump did the opposite. There will be competency abounding again in our rag tag rebel flagged guerrilla warring factions of fiction as it takes a village not just one GIANT IDIOT !

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.1    3 weeks ago

Interesting direction your crazy streaming conscientiousness took you this time but not applicable in this case.  

Or maybe it is .... i'm sure the DC swamp has Joe's cabinet already picked for him .............  no hair sniffing required .....

 
 
 
r.t..b...
4.1.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Sparty On @4.1.1    3 weeks ago
.............  no hair sniffing required .....

Please, as opposed to the self-admitted grabbing of *******. 

The selective indignation and the mirror image attacks that this election promises are simply ridiculous. We have to have reached rock bottom. I cannot imagine the coming dialogue being any worse, any more childish, or less productive; from the candidates and their respective camps. And it's only March for goodness sake.

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  r.t..b... @4.1.2    3 weeks ago

Hair sniffers and ass grabbers and bears .... oh my!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  r.t..b... @4.1.2    3 weeks ago

Should people just pretend Trump's mountain of dysfunctions dont exist, in the name of "non partisanship" ? 

I don't understand your point. Yes, it would be better if we didnt need to point out what a pos Trump is. Unfortunately that is not reality. 

If Trump is normalized and people stop ridiculing him, that is his best chance to win. 

No more "both sides are at fault" stuff until after the election please. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.1.5  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    3 weeks ago
If Trump is normalized and people stop ridiculing him

the left has ridiculed trump since day one... and that is why he was elected.

but this time will be different?  LOL

hint: no one is buying the leftwing bs anymore.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.1.5    3 weeks ago

Trump was elected because enough white people decided they wanted to take back "their" country. 

By the way, why would you vote for a buffoon who was a known liar, crook, bigot, moron and cheat, at the time?

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.1.5    3 weeks ago

It's called the "resist" movement.

Some of us haven't forgotten that threat.

I recall being told by a couple of people here ..... you just wait, you have no idea what is coming.

After three plus years of it, now we do .....

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    3 weeks ago

I didn't, i didn't vote for Hillary.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
4.1.9  r.t..b...  replied to  r.t..b... @4.1.2    3 weeks ago
the mirror image attacks

Interesting that the two comments immediately following this post do nothing but support the original contention. First, a snarky response that had nothing of substance to add to the conversation and then a condemnation that the mess 'both sides' have created should somehow be tabled until after the election.

Like it or not, the silent majority of voters that live in the middle will determine the outcome of this election and the hyper-partisan rhetoric offered up does nothing to persuade anyone to join either camp. 

Must be doing something something right to elicit responses from both camps...two sides of the same coin and not worth a plug nickel.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.1.10  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    3 weeks ago

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Galen Marvin Ross
4.1.11  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    3 weeks ago

Hell, no ones buying Trumps BS any more, have you checked the Stock Market lately, it's been falling since Trump put Pence in charge of the Coronavirus out break and, it will continue to fall as long as Orange Man keeps denying anything is wrong with the way he and, his administration is handling this crisis.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
4.1.12  MonsterMash  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    3 weeks ago
If Trump is normalized and people stop ridiculing him, that is his best chance to win. 

Correction: If Biden is normalized and people stop pointing out his cognitive decline, that is his best chance to win.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
5  The Magic Eight Ball    3 weeks ago
There is no data to support the allegation that he is in cognitive decline.
ol joe is just fine... LOL
at a rally joe said...
"because we can not get re-elect...we can not win this re-election...excuse me, we can only re-elect DonaldTrump "

"we can only re-elect DonaldTrump "
joe eventually got it right :)
 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1  XDm9mm  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @5    3 weeks ago
"we can only re-elect DonaldTrump "
joe eventually got it right

There's hope for the old clown yet.   

Was that the same place where he noted "Obiden"?  He apparently can't differentiate between Obama and Biden any longer as all he ever does is spew Obama's name as if that will magically make him viable.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
5.1.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1    3 weeks ago
all he ever does is spew Obama's name as if that will magically make him viable

contrary to some beliefs, the electorate is not clamoring for obama version 2 . joe

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.2  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @5    3 weeks ago
“We can only reelect Donald Trump if in fact we get engaged in this circular firing squad here.”

Glad to help with the whole quote...

 
 
 
cjcold
5.2.1  cjcold  replied to  Split Personality @5.2    3 weeks ago

Funny how they get so many quotes wrong. No wonder they hate fact checkers.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2.2  KDMichigan  replied to  cjcold @5.2.1    3 weeks ago
Funny how they get so many quotes wrong. No wonder they hate fact checkers.

President Trump said the Corona virus is a hoax....

256

 
 
 
Tacos!
6  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

It's pretty hilarious to watch people cry "foul!" when people suggest Biden might be losing it.

For what? 3 1/2? 4 years now? Allegedly serious people have been insisting that Trump is mentally ill as they diagnose him from afar. This includes psychiatric professionals who should know it's an ethics violation. It has been pointed out repeatedly that none of these people have actually examined Trump, but the Left doesn't care. For them, it's "obvious" that Trump is mentally ill.

Now, some people suggest Biden is mentally unfit and it's just the most unreasonable, unfair thing any of them can imagine. Wow.

"Look!" they demand. "We even have a note from his doctor." I remember how those same people laughed and scoffed at the note from Trump's doctor.

Hypocrisy isn't a big enough word.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7  seeder  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
I remember how those same people laughed and scoffed at the note from Trump's doctor.

Is that the doctor that admitted that Trump wrote the letter proclaiming he would be the healthiest president of all time? 

Trump dictated note saying he was 'astonishingly' healthy ...

May 02, 2018  ·   Harold Bornstein   tells CNN Trump wrote letter saying he would be ‘healthiest individual ever elected to the   presidency’ .

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Comrade Cameron
8  Comrade Cameron    3 weeks ago

It's not disinformation, it's true. His handlers should be charged with elder abuse for making the poor man take his condition on tour.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Comrade Cameron @8    3 weeks ago

so should the Skipper,

for striking Gilligan with his no good hat

 
 
 
lib50
9  lib50    3 weeks ago

Russian propaganda has indeed been restarted, and surprise, part of it is to make Biden seem mentally unraveling, which we see has also been picked up by the magas and defenders.  There are just so many more examples of Trump's instability, and Bloomberg will be expanding on that.  This won't be pretty, we will all be covered by the end of it.  Want to know what to expect, read this article.  This is only the Russian reaction to Bidens surge, (same as the gop reaction).  But the bullshit on Biden will be coming.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-state-media-freak-over-joe-bidens-election-resurrection

Joe Biden’s win in South Carolina gave those Russian media pause, but his buoyant resurgence on Super Tuesday left the Kremlin’s mouthpieces nearly speechless. 

Reporting on the U.S. elections for Russian state TV channel Rossiya 24, Alyona Pivkina made a gesture of surprise and said : “Suddenly, Biden surged ahead.” The revelation was followed by an awkward moment of silence between Pivkina and the seemingly stunned host of the news broadcast.

The pro-Kremlin newspaper Vzglya d complained that Biden “rose from the ashes like a phoenix,” prevailing “in spite of the corruption scandals” that have long been alleged and cultivated by the Russians—and the Republicans—concerning his son, Hunter, and his own activities in Ukraine.

With notable irritation, Vzglyad griped about Joe Biden’s state primary victories in North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Alabama, claiming that the pro-Biden votes in rural states were secured by “rednecks, who shoot skunks for fun, bowl, beat their wives and associate the word ‘socialist’ with the communist threat.” The newspaper bitterly surmised that through Biden’s anticipated nomination, the U.S. elites won yet another Cold War against socialism.
 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1  XDm9mm  replied to  lib50 @9    3 weeks ago
part of it is to make Biden seem mentally unraveling,

No individual or group needs to do anything of the kind.

Joe Biden is sufficiently capable of ensuring he appears to be the abject bumbling idiot he is and is continually getting worse.

Russians or any others do NOT//NOT make Biden flub and stumble over a teleprompter speech and then finds himself unable to recover the speech.  Hell, the man has trouble remembering what office he's running for and even called himself "Obiden" the other day.   

Unfortunately, no one apparently loves him enough to take him aside and tell him he's bat shit crazy and making a fucking fool of himself on a near hourly basis.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
9.1.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1    3 weeks ago
Joe Biden is sufficiently capable of ensuring he appears to be the abject bumbling idiot

second only to TDS democrats have russia on the brain. every problem they have or cause... russia did it... LOL

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1    3 weeks ago

If Biden does get the nomination i predict Dems will fight having many direct debates with Trump.   Using every possible tactic to avoid them.

Dems know Trump will eat his lunch in any debates and  they'll continue to make excuses for Bidens poor performances.

Oh well, at least this takes some attention away from his problems with his son.

 
 
 
Baron Creek
10  Baron Creek    3 weeks ago

I suppose it would be okay for suspicions to be cast about regarding Biden's mental acuity. I know my kids and grandkids tend to snicker at me sometimes... as I temporarily forget something. Most of us older folks understand this as we saw it with our parents and grandparents and snickered behind their backs. 

That's not to say we appreciate the snickering and comments. Trump fans should consider which age group gives him the most support, before commenting too much about the older folks, imo. 

 
 
 
loki12
11  loki12    3 weeks ago

Remember the incessant whining when trump mentioned his IQ?   Bidens no better, I guess he isn't fit to be President either!

"I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do, I suspect," said Biden, pointing at the man. "I went to law school on a full academic scholarship."

I wanted to stay and went back to law school and in fact ended up in the top half of my class," he continued.

n fact, Biden attended Syracuse law school on a half-scholarship and graduated near the bottom on his class.  Despite claiming that he improved his academic performance over time, the records did not indicate that he did.

 
 
 
Sparty On
11.1  Sparty On  replied to  loki12 @11    3 weeks ago

One doesn't need to be real bright to become a politician.  

Some are rather bright but most, like Biden, aren't.

 
 
 
loki12
11.1.1  loki12  replied to  Sparty On @11.1    3 weeks ago

He has serious anger issues, He doesn't need to be anywhere near the button.  

He told a blue collar worker in Detroit today he was a horses ass and full of shit in an angry rant about AR14's    Seriously AR14's.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
11.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  loki12 @11.1.1    3 weeks ago

LOL, only shotgun Joe could piss off a room full of Union construction workers like that..

What a maroon!

 
 
 
MonsterMash
12  MonsterMash    3 weeks ago

Biden claims he supports the 2nd amendment, but former Rep. Beto O’Rourke endorsed the former vice president Monday night at a rally in Dallas, and Mr. Binden reciprocated by saying the Texan would be in charge of his anti-gun efforts.

What did O'Rourke say about guns? "Hell, yes, we’re going to take your guns. We’re not going to allow guns to be used against a fellow American anymore, If you don't voluntarily turn in your guns we'll take them away"

Has Joe forgotten what the 2nd amendment is? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.1  XDm9mm  replied to  MonsterMash @12    3 weeks ago
"Hell, yes, we’re going to take your guns. We’re not going to allow guns to be used against a fellow American anymore, If you don't voluntarily turn in your guns we'll take them away"

I emailed BETO and told him if he want's mine, HE'LL have to come for them personally.  I never did receive a response.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
12.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  MonsterMash @12    3 weeks ago
and Mr. Binden reciprocated by saying the Texan would be in charge of his anti-gun efforts.

fuk beto and his gun grabbing bs.

it is as if biden does not want to win... LOL

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
13  Freedom Warrior    3 weeks ago

Any causal observer of Biden understands that sleepy creepy quid pro Joe is not playing with a full deck.

This isn't even in dispute by anybody with average cognitive ability. 

Here's his latest unhinged outburst,

Biden to a Detroit Auto worker:

- “You are full of shit”
- “Shush!”
- “You don’t need an AR-14”
- “Don’t be a horses ass”
- “An AR is a machine gun!”

 
 
 
Sparty On
13.1  Sparty On  replied to  Freedom Warrior @13    3 weeks ago

Can you imagine how the mass media would be freaking out right now if Trump had done something like that?

It would be complete meltdown hysteria.

When Biden does it ...... meh ..... not so much of a response at all.

The media bias is reaching epic proportions really.   Its unwatchable for anything but a Biden toadie these days.

 
 
 
CB
13.1.1  CB   replied to  Sparty On @13.1    3 weeks ago

Don't take the bait. Do not take the bait. Bait! Don't not take it!

 
 
 
Sparty On
13.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  CB @13.1.1    3 weeks ago

Reality is a dish best served hot .... that is if you are into reality and not fantasy.

 
 
 
CB
13.1.3  CB   replied to  Sparty On @13.1.2    3 weeks ago

Is Joe Biden a sitting president? Will you answer that question? That said, we do know that Joe is a little loose with cuss words. There was that official hot mic moment with the announcement of the passing of the Affordable Care Act. I hope Biden plans to bridle his tongue once president! (And, he can do so now ahead of it.)

 
 
 
Sparty On
13.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  CB @13.1.3    3 weeks ago
Is Joe Biden a sitting president?

Did i say he was?

Will you answer that question?

See above.

 
 
 
CB
13.1.5  CB   replied to  Sparty On @13.1.4    3 weeks ago

Well, Donald Trump is a sitting president. Listen! Do you want him to bridle his tongue while president?

 
 
 
Sparty On
13.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  CB @13.1.5    3 weeks ago
Well, Donald Trump is a sitting president.

Lol, i know you have some kind of rationale why that would matter but it doesn't.   Biden was VP for 8 years, arguably in a much better state of mind than today and he still said stupid shit all the time.   Nah, the point is the left is willingly to give Biden a pass for saying stupid shit while they are quick to crucify Trump for saying stupid shit.   YUGE double standard!

If you haven't made that connection by now you never will.

Listen!

Roger that, i have been.   Have you?

Do you want him to bridle his tongue while president?

Yeah, i wish he would shut his pie-hole more but he won't.   Not in his makeup.   Just like Joe won't stop saying stupid shit almost every time he speaks.   Your rationale of how that is somehow not as bad simply because he isn't POTUS right now is seriously flawed.

 
 
 
CB
13.1.7  CB   replied to  Sparty On @13.1.6    3 weeks ago

Then you need to understand the distinction between degrees. Which I won't bother SHOUTING into a stream of consciousness for you. I will calmly and regularly state it. Donald Trump has a "bully pulpit" as president - a president's words shall carry gravitas. Listen. Joe Biden is a private citizen striving for higher office in government. His words are understandably less important to the State. Should Joe be graced to hold office, I would hope he would clean up his "pie-hole" accordingly for purely professional and decency-sake. In Joe's case there is time to do this. Trump is currently failing the decency role-model test of leadership .

 
 
 
TᵢG
13.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  CB @13.1.7    3 weeks ago

I have no doubt that Biden can act more presidential than Trump.   That is really a low bar.

But he should practice starting right now.   

 
 
 
Sparty On
13.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  CB @13.1.7    3 weeks ago
Then you need to understand the distinction between degrees.

Nope, i understand it perfectly.   It also helps to have a couple of them.  

Your argument is still seriously flawed.   What Biden is doing is no better.    You do realize if he wins he will be President right?    Oh yeah, here is where you say he'll be magically better if he wins.

Right?

 
 
 
CB
13.1.10  CB   replied to  TᵢG @13.1.8    3 weeks ago

Yes! Biden should. I could not hear the cuss words in the video with the construction worker who provoked him. However, Joe is not some pink-foot at politics. Even in the Trump-era of crude and rude "nesses" he, Joe, will have to tussle with himself to put forward a civil tongue on the campaign trail.

I agree. Indeed, I may even fire off an email to the campaign later today after my return home. I will remind him of his intent to restore decency to the office in word and deed!

It is intriguing just how limiting the 'world' of these politicians is, nevertheless.

 
 
 
CB
13.1.11  CB   replied to  Sparty On @13.1.9    3 weeks ago

Magic has nothing to do with it. But, old folks, who become president can do better accordingly. Trump is a sitting president and he has made it clear he considered changing—but decided he'd rather not! Remember the whole:

  1. I do not need repentance,
  2. I don't need to ask for forgiveness, and
  3. I don't 'do' apology ('snowflake') tour thing?
 
 
 
Sparty On
13.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  CB @13.1.11    3 weeks ago
Remember the whole:

No i don't but i must confess.

I don't have the current "resist Trump" play sheet in front of me so i'll take your word for it.

 
 
 
CB
13.1.13  CB   replied to  Sparty On @13.1.12    3 weeks ago

You can take my words for it, or you can use the "googler" under those terms and the name Trump.

 
 
 
CB
13.1.14  CB   replied to  Sparty On @13.1.12    3 weeks ago

AND THEN THIS HAPPENED!

Donald Trump's Full Coronavirus Oval Office Speech

Not So FAST!!!

Immediately, White House Staff (AKA: "Mop-up boys and girls") began cleaning up the "smart actions" slated to begin this Friday March 14, 2020 as stated and listed by this sitting "very stable genius with the best words" president of ours. Who let Donald Trump anywhere near an open mic tonight?! Who?!!!

 
 
 
It Is ME
14  It Is ME    3 weeks ago

"There is no data to support the allegation that he is in cognitive decline."

Do videos of him actually screwing up easy things like meanings, words, phrases, locations and just plain thought, count as Data ?

Joe might not be sniffing women's hair or groping much anymore (he probably forgot that he likes doing that), but he is "one messed up in the mind Dude" for sure. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
WallyW
14.1  WallyW  replied to  It Is ME @14    3 weeks ago

Can't imagine him standing up to Putin, the Commie Chinese, or even little Kim

 
 
 
It Is ME
14.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  WallyW @14.1    3 weeks ago

Just saw a "Political Commercial" today from the "Bernie Campaign", showing "Barrack Obama" telling folks how great Bernie is, and how the folks need to "Feel The Bu(e)rn.

I guess Barrack doesn't trust "The Joe" ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
14.1.2  CB   replied to  It Is ME @14.1.1    3 weeks ago

Why do you have political commercial in quotes? And, Barack Obama in quotes? What's up with that? Besides, if it the same commercial playing out west, it is out of context and sub-standard.

 
 
 
It Is ME
14.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  CB @14.1.2    3 weeks ago
Why do you have political commercial in quotes? And, Barack Obama in quotes?

So folks could distinguish "Political" from your regular old "Eat Me" day to day type commercial.

That's why they are in "quotes". jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
14.1.4  CB   replied to  It Is ME @14.1.3    3 weeks ago

It's superflous. A political commercial is descriptive enough. But, thank you, for your reply. Now, what about the other words: Barack Obama in quotes?

 
 
 
It Is ME
14.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  CB @14.1.4    3 weeks ago
It's superflous. A political commercial is descriptive enough.

You need to think about "Others", and not just YOURSELF ! 

"Now, what about the other words: Barack Obama in quotes?"

See post 14.1.1  It Is ME:

"I guess Barrack doesn't trust "The Joe" !"

Does that help …… YOU ?

 
 
 
CB
14.1.6  CB   replied to  It Is ME @14.1.5    3 weeks ago

No. But carry on. We've "shared" enough on this tangent. Have a nice one!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @14    3 weeks ago

Have a good laugh.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @14.2    3 weeks ago

"..... with two jobs and sometimes even three jobs they sacrifice for the furniture....er....future of their children."

Donald Trump  Value Voters Summit Oct 13, 2017

 
 
 
CB
14.2.2  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @14.2.1    3 weeks ago
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Donald J. Trump  @realDonaldTrump
Low Ratings Fake News MSDNC (Comcast) & are doing everything possible to make the Caronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible. Likewise their incompetent Do Nothing Democrat comrades are all talk, no action. USA in great shape! .....
5:03 AM · Feb 26, 2020· Twitter for iPhone

" Caronavirus " What is so whack is. If it was not for all the grade-school humor going on, this kind of thing could be overlooked. This is typical of why we need a new president to restore adult treatment to the White House press corps.

In the future, historians and Americans will laugh at the 'clown' who tweeted official inaccuracies formally .

 
 
 
CB
14.2.3  CB   replied to  CB @14.2.2    3 weeks ago

As you might imagine, people, agencies, and governments are now trekking around and about themselves to create a vaccine for this "new" presidential slip-up virus: Caronavirus.

 
 
 
Tessylo
15  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

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