Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients

  
Via:  krishna  •  one week ago  •  47 comments

By:    By Ariana Eunjung Cha and Laurie McGinley

Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients
An antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

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President Trump spoke about taking antimalarial drug earlier this week. (Jim Lo Scalzo/ EPA-/Shutterstock)

A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs.

The sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.


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Krishna
1  seeder  Krishna    one week ago

A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @1    4 days ago

Many studies seem to have indicated that it causes arrythmia and more likelihood of death than for those who don't use it.  Because of the preponderance of such evidence, the WHO has recommended against its use.  Is Trump suicidal, besides his other shortcomings?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
1.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    4 days ago
Is Trump suicidal

Honestly, I think that once he was all in on hydroxychloroquine, he had to be really all in.  To back down from taking it would look like weakness in his own eyes, evidence be damned.  He can't admit he was wrong.

 
 
 
Split Personality
1.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @1.1.2    4 days ago
The Associated Press reported Saturday that the VA would not stop use of hydroxychloroquine, citing responses to Congress in which the department stated that it had never “encouraged or discouraged” the drug’s use. At the same time, AP reported, the department acknowledged that Secretary Robert Wilkie had been wrong to assert that the drug was shown as effective in younger veterans.
https://www.newsmax.com/us/robert-wilkie-hcq-hydroxychloroquine-va-hospital/2020/05/21/id/968313/
 
 
 
Krishna
2  seeder  Krishna    one week ago

The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs.

The sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Krishna @2    4 days ago
 
 
 
It Is ME
3  It Is ME    one week ago

It would have been much easier and cheaper to just read the already studied listed possible side effects for these drugs. jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

Did the "EXPERT Professionals" giving out these drugs to Covid-19 patients, not take those "Side Effects" into consideration when they diagnosed EVERYTHING wrong with the patients they were treating, before doling it out ?

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  It Is ME @3    one week ago
It would have been much easier and cheaper to just read the already studied listed side effects for these drugs.

Nope.

That would not be medically sound at all!!! jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1    one week ago
Nope. That would not be medically sound at all!!!

And it would endanger not only Trump's lives, but also the lives of all Americans!!!!

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.2  It Is ME  replied to  Krishna @3.1    one week ago

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Krishna
3.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.2    one week ago

Nope... jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif  ...

WRONG AGAIN! jrSmiley_46_smiley_image.gif     jrSmiley_5_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.2    one week ago
Another new "PAYDAY" is better !

Actually your comment made me think of Snickers!!!

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.5  It Is ME  replied to  Krishna @3.1.3    one week ago

jrSmiley_117_smiley_image.png hurumph.....sorry.....what ?

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1.4    one week ago

Not PAYDAY"!!! 

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It Is ME
3.1.7  It Is ME  replied to  Krishna @3.1.6    one week ago

Ick !

Broke a tooth on one of those blocks of granite one year.

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.8  seeder  Krishna  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.5    one week ago

Another new "PAYDAY" is better !

Guess you have no jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg opinion  jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif on that...???

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And meanwhile, the death rate continues to rise.... while you are apparently advocating listening to Dear Leader jrSmiley_116_smiley_image.png instead of those who actually know what they're talking about?  jrSmiley_94_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.9  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1.8    one week ago
while you are apparently advocating listening to Dear Leader

This picture says it all:

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Krishna
3.1.10  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1.4    one week ago

Another new "PAYDAY" is better !

Actually your comment made me think of Snickers!!!

Just realized, some people might not recognize the reference to "Snickers" (Yes, it was meant to be an actual "Triple Endendre"):

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Trout Giggles
3.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Krishna @3.1.9    one week ago

Everybody around him is masked but he isn't. I know he keeps saying he always test negative....we all know that nearly 18,000 lies in 3 years makes his words a little shady.

Someone needs to remind him of why he should be wearing a mask. If he's an asymptomatic carrier he could be passing it on to every body there in that photo

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.12  Heartland American  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.2    one week ago

Exactly and the point of taking that medication along with the Zithromax and zinc is to start taking it long before one ends up in the hospital.  We already knew that it is not effective once one is in ICU and that the longer into the disease one gets the less effective it is.  

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.13  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.12    one week ago
 We already knew that it is not effective 

Exactly!

(But you are aware, are you not, that he owns stock in company's that manufacturer it?)

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.12    one week ago

Are you currently taking it and zinc?

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.15  It Is ME  replied to  Krishna @3.1.8    one week ago
Guess you have no opinion  on that...???

Ya missed it ?

"And meanwhile, the death rate continues to rise...."

Bomb Shelters hold Stale air, mold..... and all sorts of other "Gross' stuff. Get out in the "Sun" and enjoy.

In the Meantime, Sick Elder folks are shipped to Elder care homes in order to infect the other Elder Residences. "Space" seemed to have been a more important issue, but really wasn't needed.

Dr. Fauci: Don't worry….maybe we'll worry....we should worry now..... we're in armagedan now.

CDC: Wear a Mask... Masks don't work ….. What the heck, put on a Mask......Hard Surfaces are bad things to touch during this virus.....Hard surfaces not as bad as we thought, but be careful.

Democrats: Come to China Town and Enjoy...…. Ummmmm …… We order you to not go to China Town...…Da Respirators, Da Respirators ….. Ignore the Respirator need, etc.

Here's a couple bucks to keep your cupboards in Cheetos !

You get the gist ….. I'm sure. jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.16  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.12    one week ago

We already knew that it is not effective

As numerous (many, many!) studies have shown!!!!

Past studies also found scant or no evidence of hydroxychloroquine’s benefit in treating sick patients, while reports mounted of dangerous heart problems associated with its use. As a result, the Food and Drug Administration last month  warned against the use of the drug  outside hospital settings or clinical trials.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Krishna @3.1.9    one week ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-wears-mask-with-presidential-seal-during-part-of-ford-plant-tour/ar-BB14r2u3?li=BBnb7Kz

In a statement, the company said Executive Chairman Bill Ford had "encouraged" Trump to wear a mask when he arrived. "He wore a mask during a private viewing of three Ford GTs from over the years. The president later removed the mask for the remainder of the visit," the statement said

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Krishna
3.1.18  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.11    one week ago
Someone needs to remind him of why he should be wearing a mask. If he's an asymptomatic carrier he could be passing it on to every body there in that photo

An important point that many people often forget. Often people think of a mask as a way of protecting themselves, but there's also another extremely important function of a mask.

If someone already has the virus but doesn't know it (because its in an asymptomatic stage) by wearing a mask they can also greatly lessen the possibility of transmitting it to others.

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.19  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.17    one week ago

Correct!

Yes-- wearing a mask for a short time once in a while-- but not wearing it for most of the time...obviously means he could be transmitting it most of the time! 

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.20  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1.19    one week ago
Yes-- wearing a mask for a short time once in a while-- but not wearing it for most of the time...obviously means he could be transmitting it most of the time! 

Recently a few White Hourse staffers have come down with the Virus...its quite possible that they got it from Trump (as he doesn't wear a mask most of the time...)

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.21  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.11    one week ago
Someone needs to remind him of why he should be wearing a mask. If he's an asymptomatic carrier he could be passing it on to every body there in that photo

Even if they did remind jim it wouldn't matter-- heis behaviour, (consistantly over time) is that he is interested only in himself...and not the well-being of others! :-(

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Krishna @3.1.21    one week ago
Even if they did remind jim it wouldn't matter

Hey!!!! Leave me out of this LOL

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Krishna
3.1.23  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.22    one week ago

Not you...its a different Jim.

(Probably it means North Korean leader Jim Jung Un ..???):

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Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.24  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Krishna @3.1.23    one week ago

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It Is ME
3.1.25  It Is ME  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.2    one week ago

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Paula Bartholomew
4  Paula Bartholomew    one week ago

When this drug was first suggest I read about a control group for testing.  Half got the drug and the other half got a placebo.  Both groups had deaths, but more occurred with those taking the drug than the placebo.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4    one week ago

That really shouldn't be surprising...considering who was advocating the drug's use!

“It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” said Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. “If there was ever was hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5  Trout Giggles    one week ago

Let him keep taking it (if he really is). He knows what the risks are or he should know.

I do wish he would stop selling it like it's snake oil

 
 
 
Krishna
5.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    one week ago
Let him keep taking it (if he really is). He knows what the risks are or he should know. I do wish he would stop selling it like it's snake oil

Well, again...its shouldn't be surprising, considering its the self-proclaimed medical "expert" (Donald Trump) who's pushing it!!!

David Maron, director of preventive cardiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine, said that “these findings provide absolutely no reason for optimism that these drugs might be useful in the prevention or treatment of covid-19.”

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Krishna @5.1    one week ago

You might find this interesting:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/woman-with-lupus-took-hydroxychloroquine-for-19-years-still-got-covid-19/ar-BB14l4vL?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR0tWqikud2BN73_zt-iWW2wQabViSZ4KzvZi-ChxOXk5fwGsyKJkahUC58

Woman with lupus took hydroxychloroquine for 19 years, still got COVID-19

Kim, who only wants her first name used, said she has taken the anti-malarial drug for 19 years to help treat the pain caused by her lupus.

Kim said when the pandemic began, she only left her home to go to the grocery store.

She said by mid-April though, she started feeling coronavirus symptoms.

"Weak all over. Coughing, fever. The fever was very high," Kim said. "It just went downhill from there. I couldn't breathe no more."

Kim said her primary doctor prescribed antibiotics, but her conditions worsened.

She said when she went to an urgent care days later, nurses said her oxygen saturation levels were at 78 percent, when they need to be at 95 percent or higher.

Kim said after arriving at the Aurora Medical Center emergency room in Summit, she tested positive for COVID-19. 
 
 
 
Krishna
5.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    one week ago

Woman With Lupus Took Hydroxychloroquine For 19 Years, Still Got COVID-19

Thanks-- interesting post...

So Hydroxychloroquine is not only extremely dangerous-- but its also ineffective!

No wonder our brilliant Dear Leader (and stock-holder) is recommending people use it....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Krishna @5.1.2    one week ago

Oh..but...but...I don't think she was taking the zinc with it!/sarcasm!

 
 
 
Krishna
5.1.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.3    one week ago

LOL!

There are several things that are supposedly good for the immune system. Some are, some are not. Zinc can be helpful-- but probably less so if you are already getting a lot in your diet. (Taking mega-doses of most supplements does pose risks).

Sometimes Vegetarians are deficient, as amongst the best sources are meats, Most Seafood is an especially rich source. 

For Vegetarians, most Nuts and Seeds are mostly good sources...also Mushrooms and Cacao/Cocoa. 

That's what Western nutritionists use. In Traditional Chinese medicine, Mushrooms are considered perhaps the best food for building the Immune System in general. (Well Mushrooms and also some traditional Chinese herbal formulas...)

That being said, however, Zinc is no miracle cure for serious diseases...rather it is one of several things that can help strengthen your Immune System. (taking extra Zinc will probably have no significant effect if you come down with Covad-19)

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6  Paula Bartholomew    6 days ago

If someone who took it for that long and still got CV, Trump is just wasting his time taking it.  This woman should be the ultimate proof that it is not a preventative measure.  I hope someone is keeping stats on people doing this and how many of them get sick anyway.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7  Paula Bartholomew    5 days ago

I just saw a story that said Trump is not taking it any longer after approximately two weeks.  I wonder if he began suffer from side effects.

 
 
 
Heartland American
7.1  Heartland American  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7    5 days ago

No side effects.  Just a two week preventative application of the three meds after people working in the White House caught the virus.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
7.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Heartland American @7.1    4 days ago

Total waste of time.

A woman who took the politicized anti-malarial drug for 19 years to treat lupus still contracted COVID-19

https://www.salon.com/2020/05/21/longtime-hydroxychloroquine-user-contracts-covid-19/

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8  Paula Bartholomew    4 days ago

Ty HA.  I can't see your reply here but I saw it in tracking.

 
 
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