Trump says he's taking malaria drug to protect against virus

  
Via:  sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom  •  2 weeks ago  •  438 comments

By:   ZEKE MILLER, MARILYNN MARCHIONE and DARLENE SUPERVILLE (MSN)

Trump says he's taking malaria drug to protect against virus
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Monday that he is taking a malaria drug to protect against the new coronavirus, despite warnings from his own government that it should only be administered for COVID-19 in a hospital or research setting due to potentially fatal side effects. Trump told reporters he has been taking the drug, hydroxychloroquine, and a zinc supplement daily "for about a week and a half now." Trump spent weeks pushing...

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Monday that he is taking a malaria drug to protect against the new coronavirus, despite warnings from his own government that it should only be administered for COVID-19 in a hospital or research setting due to potentially fatal side effects.

Trump told reporters he has been taking the drug, hydroxychloroquine, and a zinc supplement daily "for about a week and a half now." Trump spent weeks pushing the drug as a potential cure or prophylaxis for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration's top medical professionals. The drug has the potential to cause significant side effects in some patients and has not been shown to combat the new coronavirus.

Trump said his doctor did not recommend the drug to him, but he requested it from the White House physician.

"I started taking it, because I think it's good," Trump said. "I've heard a lot of good stories."

The Food and Drug Administration warned health professionals last month that the drug should not be used to treat COVID-19 outside of hospital or research settings, due to sometimes fatal side effects. Regulators issued the alert for the drug, which can also be used to treat lupus and arthritis, after receiving reports of heart-rhythm problems, including deaths, from poison control centers and other health providers.

Trump dismissed reports of side effects, saying, "All I can tell you is, so far I seem to be OK."

At least two White House staffers tested positive for COVID-19 earlier this month, sparking concerns about the steps taken by the administration to protect the president and sending Vice President Mike Pence and other officials into varying forms of self-isolation.

The White House has since mandated that those in the West Wing wear face coverings and has introduced daily testing for the virus for the president, vice president and those they come in close contact with.

Trump last underwent an "interim" checkup in a November visit to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center that was not noted on his public schedule. His last complete physical took place in February 2019.

Trump has repeatedly pushed the use of the drug with or without the antibiotic azithromycin, but no large, rigorous studies have found them safe or effective for preventing or treating COVID-19.

Two large observational studies, each involving around 1,400 patients in New York, recently found no benefit from hydroxychloroquine. Two new ones published Thursday in the medical journal BMJ reached the same conclusion.

One, by French researchers, gave 84 hospitalized patients the drug and 97 others the usual care. There were no differences in the odds of death, need for intensive care or developing severe illness.

The other study from China was a stricter test: 150 adults hospitalized with mild or moderate illness were randomly assigned to get hydroxychloroquine or usual care. The drug made no difference in rates of clearing the virus or time to relief of symptoms, and they brought more side effects.

In April, the National Institutes of Health launched a study testing hydroxychloroquine versus a placebo drug in 500 hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Last week, NIH announced another study to see if hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin can prevent hospitalization or death in people with mild to moderate illness. About 2,000 U.S. adults with confirmed coronavirus infections and symptoms such as fever, cough or shortness of breath will get the drugs or placebo pills.

U.S. prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine surged roughly 80% in March to more than 830,000 compared with same period in the prior year, according to data tracking firm IQVIA. That jump in prescribing came before the federal government accepted nearly 30 million doses of the drug donated to the strategic national stockpile by foreign drugmakers. Since then, millions of those tablets have been shipped to U.S. hospitals nationwide for use treating patients with COVID-19.


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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    2 weeks ago

I don't even know what to say about this.

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

How about saying you wish our president well?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @1.1    2 weeks ago

fuck trump

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.1.2  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Lol!

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @1.1    2 weeks ago
'How about saying you wish our president well?'

Why lie?

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.1.4  Gazoo  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

Oh i’m sorry, i thought adults were having a discussion.

[I hesitated to even ticket this as there is plenty of taunting going on in this thread and article that isn't being flagged, and more direct insults are being thrown at this member than the sarcasm here.  Everybody just chill out and cool it with the taunting, and if you are going to flag someone for taunting, at least be fair about it. - Freewill]

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

'Oh i’m sorry, i thought adults were having a discussion.'

That does not include you.  

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.1.6  Gazoo  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Awww geez, if only i had acted more childish.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.4    one week ago
'and more direct insults are being thrown at this member than the sarcasm here.'  That's certainly the only way certain posters 'roll' around here.  

That's one of the reasons I don't participate so much here now.  Some folks can certainly dish it out but not take it.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.1.8  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    one week ago
Some folks can certainly dish it out but not take it. 

MIRROR ?

Quote from comment 1.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @ 1.1.4 :

"That's one of the reasons I don't participate so much here now."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.2    one week ago

512

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

The actor that played Eddie Haskell died today. 

Ken Osmond, the actor best known for playing Eddie Haskell on the classic sitcom   Leave It to Beaver   before leaving the industry to become a police officer, died Monday at his home in Los Angeles,   Variety   reports. He was 76.

A cause of death was not immediately available, though Osmond’s former partner in the Los Angeles Police Department said he suffered from respiratory issues. Osmond’s son Eric said in a statement, “He was an incredibly kind and wonderful father. He had his family gathered around him when he passed. He was loved and will be very missed.”

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https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/ken-osmond-eddie-haskell-leave-it-to-beaver-dead-obituary-1001770/
 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    2 weeks ago

Did he have Covid-19?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    2 weeks ago

I guess that would be relevant if he were taking hydroxychloroquine.

 
 
 
dennis smith
1.2.3  dennis smith  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

This is a choice between a patient and his doctor and none of your business.

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.2.4  Heartland American  replied to  dennis smith @1.2.3    2 weeks ago

But if Trump merely suggests something might work then it’s katie bar the door in the efforts to denigrate it and make it next to impossible to get.  The anti side on this issue is driven by nothing but TDS.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.2.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

COD - COPD.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.6  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.1    2 weeks ago
Did he have Covid-19?

This question to John was intended as a gentle re-direct back to the topic at hand.

In addition, to those saying that Trump's health is none of my business, I beg to differ.  He works for me.  When his health comes into question, I'm going to say something about it, just as I would with any other president.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.7  Dulay  replied to  dennis smith @1.2.3    2 weeks ago

Yet Trump's Doctor DID make a public statement about it and failed to confirm that Trump is actually taking the drug. 

Opps. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.2.8  1stwarrior  replied to  Dulay @1.2.7    2 weeks ago

Trump said his doctor did not recommend the drug to him, but he requested it from the White House physician.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.8    2 weeks ago

He requested it and the doctor gave it to him?

Well all righty then.

Let him keep taking it

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.2.11  gooseisgone  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.9    one week ago

What's your point...…..he's not happy with a Fox News host.  Why people are getting wrapped around the axle about "hydroxychloroquine" is a mystery to me.  You can't go to Walgreen's and pick up a script it MUST be prescribed by a Doctor.  If you doctor thinks it will work he will prescribe if he doesn't he won't, why the debate.  

  

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.2.12  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.6    one week ago
When his health comes into question, I'm going to say something about it, just as I would with any other president.

I can see why you would be concerned for his health. I think we all should be. But I don't think it's our place to judge the medical decisions he makes for himself. He and his doctor know far more about his body than we do. He still has the right to make those calls.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.13  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.8    one week ago

The WH physician is the one that failed to confirm that Trump is taking the drug. Feel free to go review his press release. It's crafted very carefully. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.14  Raven Wing  replied to  Dulay @1.2.13    one week ago
The WH physician is the one that failed to confirm that Trump is taking the drug.

Why should the WH Doctor lie for Trump. That Doctor will still be in practice long after Trump is out of office, so why should he jeopardize his own career and reputation to lie for someone who is a better liar than anyone else could be and ruin his own lifes career. 

He would be a total idiot to lie, or even broadly hint that Trump was taking the drug he says he is. And I doubt that that Doctor made sure that Trump knew about all the dangerous side effects, if he is indeed taking the drug. Which in itself may be just one more lie on Trumps part to promote the sale of the drug to increase his investment return.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.2.15  Dulay  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.14    one week ago
Why should the WH Doctor lie for Trump.

After reading his press release, and it's careful wording, it's obvious to me that the WH Doctor didn't prescribe HCQ to Trump. He was too much of a pussy to deny Trump's claim in plain language but he also doesn't seem to want to out and out lie. Hence his equivocation. 

BTW, those in the employ of this WH seem to have one basic thing in common; an utter lack of intestinal fortitude. I have yet to see one resign on principle, other than Mattis of course. 

 
 
 
CB
1.2.16  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.6    one week ago

Exactly. We have a right to know if Trump's eyes are rolling around in his head (more than usual), because of some 'meds.'

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H. R. Puff N Stuff and friend.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.17  Raven Wing  replied to  Dulay @1.2.15    one week ago
BTW, those in the employ of this WH seem to have one basic thing in common; an utter lack of intestinal fortitude. I have yet to see one resign on principle, other than Mattis of course. 

Well....If they didn't know what kind of person Trump was before he was elected as POTUS they certainly should by now. IMHO, anyone at this pint that takes a job at the WH, or anywhere near Trump, should know they are risking their reputation, to say nothing of their own freedom, by working for or with him. They should understand that working for him in any capacity makes them a potential scapegoat for anything and everything that comes Trumps way.

Most everyone who thought they were being given the great honor to work for/with Trump has now found out that they were simply more fodder needed as Trumps' fall guy and yet they hang in there hoping they aren't going to be the next to fall.

And that tells me a lot about them, and it ain't good. At least it proves that Mattis has some self respect and backbone.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.18  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.10    one week ago
'Let him keep taking it'

Yes please.  They say it's very risky for those in his age and weight group, elderly and morbidly obese.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.19  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2    one week ago

Eddy Haskell on "The Beav" was GREAT ! jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif Loved him ! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.2.20  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Dulay @1.2.7    one week ago

Unfortunately due to doctor/patient confidentiality, he can only release that info with the patient's authorization.

 
 
 
pat wilson
1.3  pat wilson  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

I would bet that what his aides are calling hydroxychloroquine is probably a placebo.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.3.1  Raven Wing  replied to  pat wilson @1.3    2 weeks ago

Most likely Ex-lax. They are all totally full of Scheisse.

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.3.2  Heartland American  replied to  pat wilson @1.3    2 weeks ago

As if the White House doctor would engage in such a thing.

 
 
 
devangelical
1.3.3  devangelical  replied to  pat wilson @1.3    2 weeks ago

my guess would be tic tacs with all the shit that flies out of his mouth

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.3.4  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  devangelical @1.3.3    2 weeks ago

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Dulay
1.3.5  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @1.3.2    2 weeks ago

Did you SEE what Trump's WH Doctor said about Trump? Hell, they added an inch to Trump's height to make it seem like he wasn't obese. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
1.3.6  Split Personality  replied to  Dulay @1.3.5    2 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.3.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Heartland American @1.3.2    2 weeks ago

I wouldn't be too sure about what any doctor might do to keep his job

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.3.8  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Split Personality @1.3.6    2 weeks ago

That was my favorite Normism.  A close second was, "It's a dog-eat-dog world, Sammy, and I'm wearing Milk Bone underwear."

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.3.9  gooseisgone  replied to  Dulay @1.3.5    one week ago
[removed

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.3.10  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.3.8    one week ago

You close second has been my favorite for years.  Too many people say "I'm okay." when asked just to be polite and avoid answering questions.  If I'm not okay, I use that line.  Most who know me think it's just humor on my part and usually smile.  I look at it this way.  I made someone smile and didn't have to lie about how I was.

 
 
 
MUVA
1.3.11  MUVA  replied to  gooseisgone @1.3.9    one week ago

removed for context

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.3.12  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.3.8    one week ago

I wonder how that would play these days. Do people know what Milk Bone is anymore?

 
 
 
squiggy
1.3.13  squiggy  replied to  gooseisgone @1.3.9    one week ago

Removed for context

 
 
 
Dulay
1.3.14  Dulay  replied to  squiggy @1.3.13    one week ago

Perhaps inquiring minds would rather not address irrelevant whataboutisms. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
1.3.15  pat wilson  replied to  Dulay @1.3.5    one week ago

I think they added two inches. Look at pics of trump standing next to Obama who is 6'1" or next to Trudeau who is 6'2". He may have been 6'3" back in his youth but he's certainly not that now.

 
 
 
squiggy
1.3.16  squiggy  replied to  Dulay @1.3.14    one week ago

Sister has expressed a preference for healthy politicians and Stacey Abrams' weight, (as a top contender in the VeepSweeps) is a legitimate topic for that concern, BTMFW - 

"In addition, to those saying that Trump's health is none of my business, I beg to differ.  He works for me.  When his health comes into question, I'm going to say something about it, just as I would with any other president."

But, carry on with the Eddie Haskell comments.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.3.17  Dulay  replied to  squiggy @1.3.16    one week ago
Sister has expressed a preference for healthy politicians and Stacey Abrams' weight, (as a top contender in the VeepSweeps) is a legitimate topic for that concern, BTMFW - 

Then goose should have addressed his 'concern' to Sister instead of ME. 

But, carry on with the Eddie Haskell comments.

You seem to have the same issue as goose. I haven't made any comments in that vein. 

 
 
 
squiggy
1.3.18  squiggy  replied to  Dulay @1.3.17    one week ago

Yous, if that makes more sense to you.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.3.19  Dulay  replied to  squiggy @1.3.18    one week ago

It doesn't. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.3.20  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @1.3.11    one week ago
'Just think Nancy’s teeth are falling out from eating sweets and waist boobs is pointing the finger at someone else. I would like to see her body mass index it is probably close to Trump’s'

What the huh?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.3.22  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.12    one week ago

I don't have a dog, but I keep them on hand for my neighbor's dog because Meatball is too cool for obedience school.

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.4  Heartland American  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

It’s a matter between him and his doctor.  It with the anti biotic and zinc seems to be an effective prevention tool and mitigation if taken while not infected yet or immediately upon infection.  He started taking it around the time that some who work inside the White House were coming down with it.  No one wants our President hospitalized or in ICU like Boris Johnson was.  We wish him well and pray for his health, safety, and wisdom in dealing with the pandemic and reopening America.  

 
 
 
devangelical
1.4.1  devangelical  replied to  Heartland American @1.4    2 weeks ago
between him and his doctor

lucky for him it isn't an unwanted pregnancy, otherwise we'd have to listen to a bunch of endless bullshit from religious hypocrites 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Heartland American @1.4    2 weeks ago

Are you going to start taking it? If not, why?

Oh, you do enough praying for 10 people so I think I'll continue with my heathenish ways

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.4.3  Heartland American  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.4.2    one week ago

If I felt the need to do so I would.  I’m not particularly exposed to Wuhan-19 so I haven’t seen a doctor about it.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.4.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Heartland American @1.4.3    one week ago

Are you sure you haven't been exposed?

 
 
 
Krishna
1.4.5  Krishna  replied to  Heartland American @1.4    one week ago
It’s a matter between him and his doctor

That's true for most people.

Unfortunately, however, as President of the United States he has a responsibility not only to himself-- but also to other Americans.

And when he acts recklessly-- possibly even endangering his own life-- the results have a major effect on all Americans....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

All one can say is that it is medication being administered as part of a doctor patient relationship. Other than that the drug hydroxychloroquine has been pushed to the back seat simply because this President called it promising.

That's about it!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.5.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5    one week ago

It is not taking a back seat because Trump is taking it.  Right now it is being researched and clinical trials are ongoing to see it really is a benefit to fight cv or not.  If I had cv, and it had been proven effective, I would not refuse to take it just because Trump is.  I am no Trump fan but I would not cut my nose off to spite my face if I know there is an effective medication.  The only thing that would stop me from taking it is if the possible side effects might be worse than the disease itself.  He can call it a little red wagon for all I care.  I will wait for science's conclusion and listen to the experts over someone who thinks drinking disinfectants might be a cure.  Although I will  give him this.  He had mentioned about certain light sources that might assist in some way.  The University of California/Santa Barbara Researchers are developing ultraviolet LEDs that have the ability to decontaminate surfaces and potentially air and water.  Although it would not be for internal exposure as he alluded to, it was food for thought.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.5.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.5.1    one week ago
If I had cv, and it had been proven effective,

Serious question.

If you DID contract COVID19, and were offered the option of the drug, or waiting for clinical trials to be complete, would you take the drug?

Yes or no?

There is per Dr. Fauci, anecdotal evidence of it's effectiveness, just no peer reviewed clinical trial.

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.5.3  Tacos!  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.5.1    one week ago
Although it would not be for internal exposure as he alluded to, it was food for thought.

There actually is a company that has been developing internal UV therapy for intubated patients. They literally slide this light tube into the body and light it up from the inside. It kills bacteria and viruses, but not mammalian tissue. They've been working on it since 2016.

Based on Trump's actual language that day, it sounded like he had been briefed on something like this.

Trump: "supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting ."

So clearly, he didn't just invent the idea. Someone told him about it. But since most journalists haven't heard about it, the quick conclusion was that Trump is out of his mind again.

UV Light Therapy is Being Studied as COVID-19 Treatment at Cedars Sinai Hospital

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.5.4  Heartland American  replied to  Tacos! @1.5.3    one week ago

Exactly!  And from that the media and their democrat handlers went all in on him saying to drink Clorox and inject Lysol inside ourselves...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.5.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XDm9mm @1.5.2    one week ago

That is a fair question.  It would all depend on whether I would be asymptomatic or not.  If positive but asymptomatic, no.  If I had symptoms, it would depend on the severity.  If the doctors told me that I most likely would die without at least seeing if it worked, then maybe I would if all other revenues of treatment for the existing symptoms were exhausted.  To quote Trump "What would I have to lose."  What I will not and would not do is take it as a prophylactic as he is doing.  He should take normal precautions such as social distancing as much as possible, carrying hand sanitizer, avoid hand shaking (people would understand) and wear a mask.  He should also look at things that can boost his immune system through diet.  He could still have his precious junk food, but there are other foods that he could also eat.

 
 
 
Freewill
1.5.6  Freewill  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.5.1    one week ago
The University of California/Santa Barbara Researchers are developing ultraviolet LEDs that have the ability to decontaminate surfaces and potentially air and water.  Although it would not be for internal exposure as he alluded to, it was food for thought.

Perhaps he was talking about something more like THIS (See video on this page).  Although a prototype and not yet approved of course as a treatment for Covid-19, the Healight Technology being developed at AYTU Bioscience shows some promise as a treatment for such diseases.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.5.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Freewill @1.5.6    one week ago

I saw a story about a clothing store owner who has installed the lights, both at the entry and in the overhead fixtures.  It is to kill the virus that might me on the shopper and supposedly the clothes for sale.  Any clothes tried on but not bought are sidelined for 24 hours before put back on the racks.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.5.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.5.7    one week ago

Make that "might be" instead of "might me".  I sure don't want to get busted by a certain member here who thinks they are the spelling/grammar police who I have nicknamed Kettle/Pot so I corrected myself.

 
 
 
Krishna
1.5.9  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.5    one week ago
Other than that the drug hydroxychloroquine has been pushed to the back seat simply because this President called it promising.

Nope.

Its been "pushed to the back seat" because numerous doctors have explained that it is often causing serious side effects-- including death! 

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.5.10  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @1.5.9    one week ago
Its been "pushed to the back seat" because numerous doctors have explained that it is often causing serious side effects-- including death! 

So why are clinical trials beginning for it?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.5.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.10    one week ago
A trial to see whether two anti-malarial drugs could prevent Covid-19 has begun in Brighton and Oxford. " Chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or a placebo will be given to more than 40,000 healthcare workers from Europe, Africa, Asia and South America.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52737169

 
 
 
Freewill
1.5.12  Freewill  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.5.7    one week ago

UV treatment has been used for years in the water and wastewater industries to purify or disinfect the flow streams.  Many of my clients use UV disinfection technologies in their processes.

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.5.13  Gazoo  replied to  Freewill @1.5.12    one week ago

I always thought UV light killed the bugs (bacteria, virus’s etc). Turns out it sterilizes them so they cannot reproduce.

 
 
 
Freewill
1.5.14  Freewill  replied to  Gazoo @1.5.13    one week ago
Turns out it sterilizes them so they cannot reproduce

Which means they eventually die out before they can cause disease, or further disease, as the case may be. 

COVID-19 is the name of the coronavirus disease, but the underlying virus is called severe acute respiratory syndrome - coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). 

As I understand it, treatments or prescribed procedures typically address the symptoms and spread of the disease, whereas vaccines or other medicines that kill or block the virus from replication address the actual virus.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.5.15  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Freewill @1.5.12    one week ago

I saw on the news yesterday that NY is experimenting with that on their subways.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.5.16  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Freewill @1.5.14    one week ago

Turns out it sterilizes them so they cannot reproduce

I wonder if that would work on Trumpers.jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.5.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Freewill @1.5.12    one week ago

UV treatment works well for killing E coli, but the problem is it doesn't leave a residual so you can determine if you have effective disinfectant in your distribution, that's why chlorine or chloroamines are necessary after the UV

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.5.18  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Freewill @1.5.12    one week ago

I did not realize that.  Great info...ty.

 
 
 
Krishna
1.5.19  Krishna  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.5.7    one week ago
I saw a story about a clothing store owner who has installed the lights, both at the entry and in the overhead fixtures.  It is to kill the virus that might me on the shopper and supposedly the clothes for sale. 

its been used for that for years.(Especially in hospitals)

However it takes a strong dose to kill many of the more resistant germs. In some cases, a large enough dose to kill all bad germs would be dangerous to humans. 

In hospitals it used for a period to de-contaminate a room when patients aren't in them. (After a period, they turn it off and bring the patient(s) back to the room)._

 
 
 
Krishna
1.5.20  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @1.5.19    one week ago
In hospitals it used for a period to de-contaminate a room when patients aren't in them. (After a period, they turn it off and bring the patient(s) back to the room)._

Even better are the specialized robots thet were invented a while back that do the job:

Autonomous Robots Are Helping Kill Coronavirus in Hospitals

Robots that can efficiently disinfect hospitals using UV light could slow coronavirus infections

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Greg Jones
1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

If you can't say something good, then don't say anything.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.6.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Greg Jones @1.6    one week ago
If you can't say something good, then don't say anything.

Why not pass that advise on to some of your good 'ol boys here as well. They can use it too.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.6.2  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.6    one week ago

'If you can't say something good, then don't say anything.'

Good advice, you should do that.  

The 'president' needs to take that advice as well along with his supporters.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago
I don't even know what to say about this.

Do you really think he is taking it?

No way!  Just another Trump lie, possibly because he has stock in the company producing it.

Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer: NYT

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.7.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7    2 weeks ago
Yes, President Trump does have some shares in multiple pharmaceutical companies that produce hydroxychloroquine, but the investments are part of mutual funds that are, in turn, part of family trusts.
Trump, himself, does not have direct control over these trusts.
To put it simply: It's true that Trump makes some income from companies producing hydroxychloroquine, but that income is a small part of a family trust that he doesn’t make decisions for.

The horror................LOL jrSmiley_30_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.7.1    2 weeks ago
The horror................LOL

So you are acknowledging that what I said was true and accurate.  Thank you...jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.7.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7    2 weeks ago
Do you really think he is taking it?

Yes I do.  It was prescribed by his doctor as a prophylactic to protect against the virus as he did have contact with people who tested positive.

No way!  Just another Trump lie, possibly because he has stock in the company producing it.

Which company?  It is a GENERIC drug that has been around for decades and has multiple manufacturers making it.  You really do need to keep up with current events.

Has a generic version of Plaquenil been approved?

Yes. The following products are equivalent to Plaquenil:

hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablet;oral

  • Manufacturer: ACCORD HLTHCARE
    Approval date: April 7, 2020
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: ALKALOIDA ZRT
    Approval date: May 8, 2018
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: AMNEAL PHARMS CO
    Approval date: May 15, 2018
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: APPCO
    Approval date: May 1, 2018
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: HIKMA PHARMS
    Approval date: August 15, 2007
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: IPCA LABS LTD
    Approval date: June 14, 2007
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: LAURUS LABS LTD
    Approval date: January 15, 2019
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: LUPIN LTD
    Approval date: July 6, 2018
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer:   MYLAN
    Approval date: May 29, 1998
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer:   SANDOZ
    Approval date: November 30, 1995
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: TEVA PHARMS
    Approval date: September 30, 1994
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer:   WATSON LABS
    Approval date: November 30, 1995
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
  • Manufacturer: ZYDUS PHARMS USA INC
    Approval date: September 21, 2007
    Strength(s): 200MG   [ AB ]
SOURCE:  https://www.drugs.com/availability/generic-plaquenil.html

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.4  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @1.7.3    one week ago
Yes I do.

That is a foolish belief then.

It was prescribed by his doctor as a prophylactic to protect against the virus as he did have contact with people who tested positive.

Prove it.

Which company?  It is a GENERIC drug that has been around for decades and has multiple manufacturers making it.

So?  Doesn't matter which.

You really do need to keep up with current events.

I do, you need to stop ignoring them.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.7.5  XDm9mm  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.4    one week ago
Yes I do.
That is a foolish belief then.

Per you?   Laughable at best.

It was prescribed by his doctor as a prophylactic to protect against the virus as he did have contact with people who tested positive.
Prove it.

Better yet, disprove it.  You CAN do that can't you?

Which company?  It is a GENERIC drug that has been around for decades and has multiple manufacturers making it.
So?  Doesn't matter which.

Then what's the beef.  

You really do need to keep up with current events.
I do, you need to stop ignoring them.

Current events to you is only Hate Trump, Trump Bad, etc., etc., etc.   [deleted]

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.7.6  gooseisgone  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.2    one week ago
I said was true and accurate. 

No it wasn't, Trump can't prescribe "hydroxychloroquine", he can't demand Doctors prescribe it, he can't sell it.  So what if a Mutual Fund has the manufacturer as part of his portfolio, so does probably every union retirement fund in the US, who gives a shit.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.7.7  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XDm9mm @1.7.5    one week ago
Better yet, disprove it.  You CAN do that can't you?

My God, there are studies all over the place.

From The New England Journal of Medicine:

Widening access to experimental therapies that have not been fully evaluated is likely to have several unintended consequences. First, benefits to patients are unknown and may be negligible (as in the case of peramivir), in which case expanded access undermines physicians’ attempts to practice evidence-based medicine. Second, medications such as hydroxychloroquine have well-documented risks; subjecting patients to these risks would be unjustifiable in the absence of meaningful clinical benefit. Third, distributing unproven drugs under expanded access or EUAs may detract from the resources needed to carry out clinical trials, including the patient base and necessary funds. Since key outcome data are often not collected outside a trial, this redirection of resources will hamper our ability to quickly determine whether these drugs are truly safe and effective.

For the Covid-19 pandemic and other pressing medical challenges, the health of individual patients and the public at large will be best served by remaining true to our time-tested approach to clinical trial evidence and drug evaluation, rather than cutting corners and resorting to appealing yet risky quick fixes. The pandemic will inevitably leave considerable morbidity, mortality, and loss in its wake. Damage to the country’s medication-assessment process — and the public’s respect for it — should not be part of its legacy.  More/Source

From the FDA:

FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems.  More/Source

I know that you believe the things that Trump says.  That is your prerogative.  But I encourage you to read both of these peer-reviewed articles.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.7.8  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.7.7    one week ago
My God, there are studies all over the place.

Before you jump the pooch again, here is how that "quote" you used from me originated.

It was prescribed by his doctor as a prophylactic to protect against the virus as he did have contact with people who tested positive.
Prove it.
Better yet, disprove it.  You CAN do that can't you?

So, you were saying?

Don't worry, I still like you even though you're a cigar smoker!!  jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.9  Ozzwald  replied to  gooseisgone @1.7.6    one week ago
No it wasn't, Trump can't prescribe "hydroxychloroquine"

Never claimed he could.

he can't demand Doctors prescribe it

Why not?  Commander and chief can order his military doctor to do anything, like.....say....falsify his medical report to say he is 6'3" to avoid the label of obese.

he can't sell it.

He can own stock in it/

So what if a Mutual Fund has the manufacturer as part of his portfolio, so does probably every union retirement fund in the US, who gives a shit.

Yet if he does know, he might alter the facts to support the company his "Mutual Fund" has stock in to increase its value.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.10  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @1.7.5    one week ago
Per you?   Laughable at best.

There has been absolutely no testing or evidence that hydroxychloroquine has any effect as a prevention to COVID. 

That any doctor would prescribe any drug, with that severe of side effects, to a person showing absolutely no sign of COVID, truly is laughable and would probably result in that doctor's loss of license.

Better yet, disprove it.  You CAN do that can't you?

You made the claim, now prove your claim or withdraw it.  It is not my job to prove, or disprove, YOUR claim.  Trying to push it off onto me is a sure sign that your claim is a made up fiction.

Then what's the beef.

The beef is that Trump may be using his position to push an unproven medical treatment because he has a financial stake in it and not for any health reasons.

Current events to you is only Hate Trump, Trump Bad, etc., etc., etc.

90,000+ dead, largely due to Trump's completely failed response to this pandemic.  

Coronavirus: Fauci says US 'could have saved lives' with earlier action

Fauci: Earlier Action On Coronavirus Would Have Saved Lives

A new investigation reveals Trump ignored experts on Covid-19 for months

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gooseisgone
1.7.11  gooseisgone  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.9    one week ago
he can't demand Doctors prescribe it Why not?  

He's not a doctor......duh

Yet if he does know, he might alter the facts to support the company his "Mutual Fund" has stock in to increase its value.

and unicorns and leprechauns are chasing rainbows to get the pot of gold.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.12  Ozzwald  replied to  gooseisgone @1.7.11    one week ago
He's not a doctor......duh

That's why the Commander and Chief can order his military doctor to do so. 

Remember Trump has a history of having his doctors provide false information.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.7.13  gooseisgone  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.12    one week ago
Remember Trump has a history of having his doctors provide false information.

Sure he does.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.7.15  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.14    one week ago

I am betting that "favor" came with a nice little chunk of change.

 
 
 
Freewill
1.7.16  Freewill  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.4    one week ago
That is a foolish belief then.
It was prescribed by his doctor as a prophylactic to protect against the virus as he did have contact with people who tested positive.
Prove it.

Proof HERE or HERE

And this was known 4 days ago.  Perhaps it is best not to call others foolish until the facts are known, lest the tables are turned?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.7.17  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Freewill @1.7.16    one week ago
And this was known 4 days ago.  Perhaps it is best not to call others foolish until the facts are known, lest the tables are turned?

Please read the memo from Dr. Conley again.  One important fact is omitted.  Not once does he say he prescribed Hydroxychloroquine for Donald Trump.   

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.7.18  KDMichigan  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.7.17    one week ago
Not once does he say he prescribed Hydroxychloroquine for Donald Trump. 

OMG you mean he didn't share his patients personal business with you. Yeah I'm sure they are hiding something. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.7.19  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  KDMichigan @1.7.18    one week ago
OMG you mean he didn't share his patients personal business with you.

Dr. Conley shared his patient's personal business with the entire world via the aforementioned memo.  He described a personal conversation with his patient, and also included his own personal thoughts regarding Hydroxychloroquine.  Had he prescribed Hydroxychloroquine for Donald Trump, he would have said so. 

Furthermore, I suggest that you visit this HHS.gov website.  It discusses HIPAA laws in depth.  Most of the laws contained therein do not apply to the President of the United States.  When the lives and the welfare of an entire nation is at stake (albeit world), we, as citizens are legally entitled to know the health status of our leaders.  'Status' includes, but isn't limited to, summaries of physical, emotional, and psychological exams, prescribed medication, special diets, etc. 

 
 
 
CB
1.7.20  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.7.19    one week ago

Besides all this, Donald Trump set this up for a wild goose catch with is unsolicited admission of taking hydroxychloroquine during a meeting with the questioners in the Press.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.7.21  KDMichigan  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.7.19    one week ago

That's funny, I could have sworn you were just whining because he didn't disclose the Presidents medications. Don't you think it would be pretty stupid for our adversaries to know what medications our commander in chief is taking, never mind. 

 
 
 
Freewill
1.7.22  Freewill  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.7.17    one week ago
One important fact is omitted.  Not once does he say he prescribed Hydroxychloroquine for Donald Trump.

OK - Will THIS do?

President Trump 's physician prescribed hydroxychloroquine for him as a preventative measure against the coronavirus, White House press secretary   Kayleigh McEnany   confirmed Wednesday amid criticism and questions about whether Trump is actually taking the drug.
"Yes, the doctor did prescribe it for him. And he took it after having several discussions with Dr. [Sean] Conley about its efficacy," McEnany   told David Brody   of CBN News.
 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.23  Ozzwald  replied to  Freewill @1.7.16    6 days ago
Proof HERE or HERE And this was known 4 days ago.  Perhaps it is best not to call others foolish until the facts are known, lest the tables are turned?

Once again, a rightie posted a memo or article, which DOES NOT prove his claim.  Thank you Sister Mary for pointing that fact out so quickly.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.24  Ozzwald  replied to  CB @1.7.20    6 days ago

Besides all this, Donald Trump set this up for a wild goose catch with is unsolicited admission of taking hydroxychloroquine during a meeting with the questioners in the Press.

Not admission, claim.  I still do not believe he has/is/will be taking hydroxychloroquine.  The letter from his doctor just backs up my belief.  The letter looks like other "letters" from Trump's doctors, DICTATED.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.25  Ozzwald  replied to  Freewill @1.7.22    6 days ago
OK - Will THIS do?

Simply put, NO.

A press secretary who lies, less than a minute after she states she will not lie, is not trustworthy.  Where is the doctor's statement that he prescribed it?  Doctor released a memo about hydroxychloroquine, yet specifically omitted any claim about a prescription.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.7.26  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Freewill @1.7.22    6 days ago

I respect your right to believe any source you feel you can trust.  

 
 
 
CB
1.7.27  CB   replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.24    6 days ago

Yes. You are right to be suspicious. He lies daily with his morning coffee or "go-to."

 
 
 
Freewill
1.7.28  Freewill  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.25    6 days ago
Doctor released a memo about hydroxychloroquine, yet specifically omitted any claim about a prescription.

So what in your mind does this mean?: "...we concluded the potential benefit from treatment outweighed the relative risks". 

So in reaching this conclusion you feel they proceeded no further?  Does that make any sense to you?  The letter was in response to the question as to whether the treatment had been prescribed.  Do you need live footage of the event, or what would put this to rest for you?

You can't obtain hydroxychloroquine without a prescription.  The press secretary also made this clear in the statement.

"No one should be taking this drug if not prescribed by a doctor, it's very important to say that. Only your doctor can say that this is for you and prescribe it to you," McEnany told CBN News. 

And you can dispense with this "rightie" bullshit.  I haven't accused anyone here of being a "leftie" or "TDS sufferer" simply because they wish to interpret the facts in this matter through a different lens. I am completely prepared to admit that I am wrong on whether Trump was prescribed and is taking HC along with a zinc supplement, but the evidence to date indicates that he was/is.  If that changes in the coming days then I'll admit I was wrong.  Will you if additional information surfaces showing that what he said was true?

 
 
 
Freewill
1.7.29  Freewill  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.7.26    6 days ago
I respect your right to believe any source you feel you can trust. 

Thank you sister. And I respect yours as well.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.30  Ozzwald  replied to  Freewill @1.7.28    5 days ago
You can't obtain hydroxychloroquine without a prescription.  The press secretary also made this clear in the statement.

Which is true, however does nothing to back up Trump's claim that he is taking it.  You don't need a doctor's prescription to LIE about taking hydroxychloroquine.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.7.31  XDm9mm  replied to  Ozzwald @1.7.30    5 days ago
Which is true, however does nothing to back up Trump's claim that he is taking it.

Be honest, even if you saw him take it, you would likely claim it was a sugar pill your hatred of Donald Trump is so great.  There is nothing he could ever do that would be sufficient to quell that hatred, so go on hating and President Trump will go on being President Trump, much to your continual dismay.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.7.32  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @1.7.31    5 days ago
Be honest, even if you saw him take it, you would likely claim it was a sugar pill your hatred of Donald Trump is so great.

No, if Trump's official doctor stated that Trump was taking it, I'd think the doctor was a quack, but would take at face value that he was taking it.

However the doctor's letter went out of its way to avoid that statement, indicating he was ordered to write a pro hydroxychloroquine letter, but chose to avoid outright lying.

 
 
 
Gordy327
1.8  Gordy327  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago

How about "stupid!" 

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.9  Tacos!  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    one week ago
I don't even know what to say about this.

You don't need to say anything. He made a choice for his own health. Let's hope it works for him.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
1.10  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    one week ago

I can help you with that. The folks that claim  Trump is irresponsible for taking medication prescribed by a doctor [deleted]

 
 
 
Split Personality
1.10.1  Split Personality  replied to  Freedom Warrior @1.10    one week ago

What, like every opioid addict that claims they were just following Doctor's orders?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
1.10.2  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Freedom Warrior @1.10    one week ago

That person of course was Dr. Manny Alvarez.   And I did nominate him for the Guiness Book of fucking retards.

I have plenty of more nominees but we'll take them as they come.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    one week ago

I LOVE what Nancy Pelosi had to say, for his age and weight category, MORBIDLY OBESE, he shouldn't be taking this drug.  Nancy shouldn't have gone their but when have tRump or his supporters EVER taken the high road?

It's funny Trevor Noah said 'tRump isn't an asshole for what he puts in his mouth, he's an asshole for what comes out of it . . '

Is this just another distraction, another lie?

Too bad we can't believe one goddamned word coming out of his mouth.

 
 
 
bbl-1
2  bbl-1    2 weeks ago

Trump says a lot of things.  If this drug makes him feel 'safer', that in itself is worth something, right?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  bbl-1 @2    2 weeks ago

Either he's lying about taking it, or he has the virus.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    2 weeks ago
Either he's lying about taking it, or he has the virus.

You've caught him once again/s

 
 
 
devangelical
2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    2 weeks ago

let the dumb ass take it by the handful for all I care...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

My sentiments exactly

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.2  Raven Wing  replied to  bbl-1 @2    2 weeks ago
Trump says a lot of things.  If this drug makes him feel 'safer', that in itself is worth something, right?

Not really. He is already going around without a face mask, thinking he is blessed by God and he won't get the virus. But, by taking the malaria drug that makes him feel safe only puts him more risk and everyone around him. Just because he hasn't gotten the virus yet does not mean he is totally immune to it and can't get it. And feeling too safe will make him do more stupid stuff that will put more people around him at risk of getting it from him.

He just does not want to cover up his way too handsome face, as that makes women swoon so much that he can grab their p*zzy and do anything he wants to them and they won't refuse him because of his gorgeous face.

Yeahhh....right.....

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.2.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Raven Wing @2.2    2 weeks ago
And feeling too safe will make him do more stupid stuff

i used to think, is that even possible, but Trump has proven quite remarkable. Every time you think he's out done himself, and his last horrifically horrible & heinous act, that NO ONE ever thought they would/could ever, see a US President do, he again tops what we didn't think was toppable, and is defended by supporters whose support, is apparently unstoppable. Quite concerning, when their concern is unapparent, as they are child orphans, without either parent. When there is no adults to oversee, there are A Dolts,  that will never see.

The US is in trouble.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.2.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

i used to think, is that even possible, but Trump has proven quite remarkable. Every time you think he's out done himself, and his last horrifically horrible & heinous act, that NO ONE ever thought they would/could ever, see a US President do, he again tops what we didn't think was toppable, and is defended by supporters whose support, is apparently unstoppable. Quite concerning, when their concern is unapparent, as they are child orphans, without either parent. When there is no adults to oversee, there are A Dolts,  that will never see.

The US is in trouble

This comment needs to be upped about a million times.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

I did my part

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.2.4  Raven Wing  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.2.1    one week ago
The US is in trouble.

Indeed it is, and has been since day one of Trumps tenure as POTUS. And will be even more so as long as he remains in the WH. I think that at this point Trump is both mentally and emotionally drained and ready to hand the reins over to someone else so he can go play at his rallies, where his supporters make him feel like he is doing good.

Having to take responsibility for all that he says and does, even though he denies any part of responsibility, is weighing heavily on him and he finds it hard to pass the blame to someone else anymore even though he tries. The Covid virus has done him under, as he cannot manipulate it as he pleases, and whatever he says or does in regards to it is a direct reflection in him, and he can't stand it that he can't pass his mistakes for the thousands of deaths due to his own lack of taking the virus that had already taken the lives of so many others before it arrived here in the US seriously in the first place. He said it was a joke, a hoax, just the flu, anything to pass to off a being a deadly virus that needed immediate attention.

 
 
 
bbl-1
2.2.5  bbl-1  replied to  Raven Wing @2.2    one week ago

No s/ intended but----------after all Trump does have spiritual advisor Paula White around the WH.  And 'she' did affirm that 'she' saw visions of Jesus walking through fields of flowers with Trump.  Again I say, "That is worth something, right?"

This too.  Every word or action by Trump is geared only for his base.  Is he immune?  Apparently so.  The 'Stormy Who' episode was weathered perfectly.  As was Helsinki.  As was the abandonment of the Kurds.  As was the abandonment of everything else the man touches. 

His Achilles Heel is the money.  None of it is his.  "I am the king of debt," were words spoken by Trump and those words are the only truthful thing he's ever uttered.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.2.6  Raven Wing  replied to  bbl-1 @2.2.5    one week ago

Yeah....I have heard of his 'Spiritual Advisor' and her visions. I have to wonder how many times Trump has ....ehhh....um.....'consulted' with her during her time at the WH. I am sure she has seen more than Jesus walking with Trump while there. And I feel pretty sure that Trump has had no trouble grabbing her.....eh.....um.....Bible ......while she is 'counseling' him on his walks through the fields of flowers with Jesus.

His Bone Spurs are still his way of getting around what he does not want to do, or what he does want to do, and it all involves money. Indeed not his.....but, that of all the people he can bilk and cheat out of theirs, as he has most all of his own creditors.

As you say, his saying "I'm the King of debt" are the truest words he has ever spoken. However, if you were to ask him about them he would lie and deny he ever said them.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  bbl-1 @2.2.5    one week ago
'No s/ intended but----------after all Trump does have spiritual advisor Paula White around the WH.  And 'she' did affirm that 'she' saw visions of Jesus walking through fields of flowers with Trump.  Again I say, "That is worth something, right?"

What happened to that nutsy cuckoo batshit crazy bitch?  I forgot all about that whack job.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.7    one week ago

She's still there

 
 
 
bbl-1
2.2.9  bbl-1  replied to  Raven Wing @2.2.6    one week ago

Yep.  As in all things Trump, everything always comes back to 'Stormy Who.'

 
 
 
bbl-1
2.2.10  bbl-1  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.7    one week ago

As Trout said, she is still there.  Just another bleached blonde, thrice married christian money hustler.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.2.11  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  bbl-1 @2.2.10    one week ago

I wonder if she claims her knee pads as a work related expense when filing taxes.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  bbl-1 @2.2.10    one week ago

Married 3 times????

Did the first 2 die? Because we all know what the Bible says about divorce

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3  The Magic Eight Ball    2 weeks ago

all bs starts with a false premise...  and here it is.

 and has not been shown to combat the new coronavirus.
 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3    2 weeks ago
all bs starts with a false premise...

Perhaps a blast of Clorox would be better.

 
 
 
Gazoo
3.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    2 weeks ago

Karen Whitsett would disagree. She’s a democrat from michigan who was deathly ill with covid. She took hydroxychloroquine and credits it with saving her life. Yes, she’s the one that had the nerve to meet with Trump and, gasp, thank him. Thankfully, Michigan dems are censuring her and treating her as if she has the plague. 🙄

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

I'll take a doctors' word over some tRump supporter.  

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.3  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Gazoo @3.1.1    2 weeks ago
Yes, she’s the one that had the nerve to meet with Trump and, gasp, thank him.

What a thoughtful gesture.  However, I wouldn't mind if Ms. Whitsett posted conclusive details of the study in which she was participating.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
3.1.4  pat wilson  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    2 weeks ago

I think he should use a combo of Clorox and ammonia as an inhalant.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    2 weeks ago

Does that work better than Lysol?

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.6  Heartland American  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

Would it have been better if she didn’t survive the disease so she couldn’t have lived to say something nice about the President?  

 
 
 
dennis smith
3.1.7  dennis smith  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

You are correct. This is between Trump and his doctor. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.8  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    2 weeks ago
Perhaps a blast of Clorox would be better

give it a shot.... LOL

let us know how that turns out.  

 
 
 
devangelical
3.1.9  devangelical  replied to  pat wilson @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

I vote enema for that ever expanding sack of shit.

 
 
 
Kavika
3.1.10  Kavika   replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.8    2 weeks ago

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.8    2 weeks ago

You first

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.1.12  Raven Wing  replied to  Kavika @3.1.10    one week ago

O-M-G...that is hilarious. So straight forward and totally truthful. Thank yo for the best laugh of the day. jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
3.1.13  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.2    one week ago
I'll take a doctors' word over some tRump supporter. 

Guess you missed this part:

She’s a democrat
 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1.5    one week ago
Does that work better than Lysol?

I saw a huge disclaimer on their site when I was trying to buy some Lysol online since I cannot find it in any stores ANYWHERE.  

It is as follows:

'Improper use of Disinfectants

Due to recent speculation and social media activity, RB (the makers of Lysol and Dettol) has been asked whether internal administration of disinfectants may be appropriate for investigation or use as a treatment for coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2).

As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route). As with all products, our disinfectant and hygiene products should only be used as intended and in line with usage guidelines. Please read the label and safety information.

We have a responsibility in providing consumers with access to accurate, up-to-date information as advised by leading public health experts. For this and other myth-busting facts, please visit Covid-19facts.com.'

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.13    one week ago
'I'll take a doctors' word over some tRump supporter.'
'Guess you missed this part:
She’s a democrat'

Sure she is!

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @3.1.7    one week ago

Where did I say that?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.18  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.17    one week ago

None of your links work.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.18    one week ago
None of your links work.

That's okay, she wouldn't read them if they did.

Surely YOU aren't disputing that Whislett is a Democrat?

Seems awfully strange that the Democratic Party would censure a non-member, doesn't it?

 
 
 
Freewill
3.1.21  Freewill  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.18    one week ago
None of your links work.

320

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  Freewill @3.1.21    one week ago

Yeah, don't know why they won't work now, but I know the wiki one did, and shows she is a Democrat.

There was only one person actually disputing that fact.

 
 
 
Ender
3.1.23  Ender  replied to  Kavika @3.1.10    one week ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.24  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @3.1.10    one week ago

She kind of looks like Jessica Biel.

 
 
 
loki12
4  loki12    2 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  loki12 @4    2 weeks ago

It's not a preventative, nor has it been touted as such.

 
 
 
loki12
4.1.1  loki12  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1    2 weeks ago

 it may serve as a potential prophylactic agent especially in those at high risk, such as healthcare workers, household contacts of infected patients

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32344449

The Indian Council of Medical Research, under the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare, has recommended chemoprophylaxis with hydroxychloroquine (400 mg twice on day 1, then 400 mg once a week thereafter) for asymptomatic health-care workers treating patients with suspected or confirmed COVID-19, and for asymptomatic household contacts of confirmed cases.

 The document states “its use in prophylaxis is derived from available evidence of benefit as treatment and supported by preclinical data”. 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30313-3/fulltext

 
 
 
Gsquared
4.1.2  Gsquared  replied to  loki12 @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

The Lancet article you cited also notes:  "the scarcity of evidence for its efficacy".

 
 
 
loki12
4.1.3  loki12  replied to  Gsquared @4.1.2    2 weeks ago

On a disease that's been around for 3 full months,  Brilliant catch. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
4.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  loki12 @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

I'd feel a lot safer in a deep-diver's outfit.

th?id=OIP.weatYnAusRDZk4IgNkGunAHaEK&pid

 
 
 
loki12
4.1.5  loki12  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.4    2 weeks ago
I'd feel a lot safer in a deep-diver's outfit.

Or on a desert island with just the wife, and Rum.  But FFS some of these idiots would die rather than admit it might work. TDS may kill more than Covid-19. an example of the idiot left media.

256

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.6  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  loki12 @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

Please make the connection between your meme, and the topic of the seed.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
4.1.7  dennis smith  replied to  loki12 @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

Some always see the glass as half full (Trump haters) and some see the glass as half full (Supporters of the POTUS)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1    2 weeks ago
It's not a preventative, nor has it been touted as such.

You do know that thousands of doctors and nurses have taken it as prophylaxis since outset both here and around world?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
4.1.9  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.8    2 weeks ago

Why.... because Trump said so?

Show us the medical data via link.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.11  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.10    2 weeks ago
That's why it's supposedly bad, right?

No.  This is:

The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with COVID-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with azithromycin and other QT prolonging medicines.  We are also aware of increased use of these medicines through outpatient prescriptions.  

Therefore, we would like to remind health care professionals and patients of the known risks associated with both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. We will continue to investigate risks associated with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19 and communicate publicly when we have more information.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19.  They are being studied in clinical trials for COVID-19, and we authorized their temporary use during the COVID-19 pandemic for treatment of the virus in hospitalized patients when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).  The medicines being used under the hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine EUA are supplied from the Strategic National Stockpile, the national repository of critical medical supplies to be used during public health emergencies. This safety communication reminds physicians and the public of risk information set out in the hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine healthcare provider fact sheets  that were required by the EUA.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia.  These risks may increase when these medicines are combined with other medicines known to prolong the QT interval, including the antibiotic azithromycin, which is also being used in some COVID-19 patients without FDA approval for this condition.  Patients who also have other health issues such as heart and kidney disease are likely to be at increased risk of these heart problems when receiving these medicines.  Source

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.12  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  dennis smith @4.1.7    2 weeks ago
Some always see the glass as half full (Trump haters) and some see the glass as half full (Supporters of the POTUS)

Ummm...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.1.13  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.11    2 weeks ago

That's why is he is taking it under the supervision and observation of his doctor(s).

 
 
 
devangelical
4.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.12    2 weeks ago

ask somebody to smack you in the head with a 2x4, it'll make more sense when you read it after that

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.15  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  devangelical @4.1.14    2 weeks ago

No 2 x 4's, but I have a really big sledgehammer. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
4.1.17  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.15    2 weeks ago

Try the 5Lb size.   The 3-pounder barely left a scratch.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.1.18  1stwarrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.6    2 weeks ago

"some of these idiots would die rather than admit it might work."

Funny - here it is - how'd you miss it?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.19  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  1stwarrior @4.1.18    2 weeks ago
"some of these idiots would die rather than admit it might work." Funny - here it is - how'd you miss it?

?

 
 
 
Gsquared
4.1.20  Gsquared  replied to  loki12 @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

Interesting how you failed to note the most significant statement in the article you cited and quoted from.  Nice try.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  loki12 @4.1.3    2 weeks ago

Do you know anything about medical research and how it's conducted?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  loki12 @4.1.5    2 weeks ago

What's your source for that meme? If you're going to site "statistics" then you should probably back it up

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.10    2 weeks ago

5 doctors????

5!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many doctors are currently practicing in the United States?

Also, if you're stating that medical professionals are taking this drug as a prophylactic, you need a source to back it up your claim

 
 
 
Ender
4.1.24  Ender  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.15    2 weeks ago
I want to be your sledgehammer
Why don't you call my name
Oh let me be your sledgehammer
This will be my testimony
 
 
 
Ender
4.1.25  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.23    2 weeks ago

well, donald said so....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @4.1.25    2 weeks ago

Then it just has to be true!

 
 
 
Ender
4.1.27  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.26    2 weeks ago

That dern blind faith again.

Or is it called worship.

Sometimes I think if donald told them the spaceship that was following the Hale Bopp comet was coming back, they would all prepare.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.28  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @4.1.27    2 weeks ago
Sometimes I think if donald told them the spaceship that was following the Hale Bopp comet was coming back, they would all prepare.

Hell no.  If there was one following it, it should have been here a long time ago.  Unless it got lost in the comets tail and missed and is now waiting for the next fly by in a few thousand years.  But all of this generation will be dead by then anyway.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.29  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @4.1.27    2 weeks ago

I'll put in an order for cheap Keds

 
 
 
dennis smith
4.1.30  dennis smith  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.12    2 weeks ago

Thank you for pointing out. My error, meant to say ........glass as half empty (Trump haters)

 
 
 
Split Personality
4.1.31  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.23    2 weeks ago

All members of the AAPS.  At least 5 of the members are doctors and it is their official position that if the President says it works then that's good enough for them.

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons ( AAPS ) is a conservative non-profit association founded in 1943. The group was reported to have about 5,000 members in 2014

You too can join here, the old fee has been reduced to free, due to the recent attention on HCQ.

Their most famous member was Rand Paul whom they kicked out in 2010 due to his anti vaccine beliefs.

The group believes in vaccines but only if voluntary

https://aapsonline.org/join-aaps/

Of course, only  physicians can join the 245,000 doctors in the AMA which clearly does not endorse the use of HCQ.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.32  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ender @4.1.24    one week ago
I want to be your sledgehammer

Great.  I've had that song in my head for hours.  Throw out another one, please.  Anything but I'm Henry the VIII, I Am.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.1.33  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.32    one week ago

how about   The KNack    My CORONA

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.1.34  1stwarrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.32    one week ago

What - you don't like Herman's Hermits???

How 'bout "Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter"??

 
 
 
Raven Wing
4.1.35  Raven Wing  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.32    one week ago

How about this one...

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.1.36  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.31    one week ago
All members of the AAPS.

And yet, still doctors, right? Actual doctors who went to actual medical school, and are actually licensed to practice medicine? So there might possibly be some actual education, knowledge, and experience behind the decisions they make. But because they agree with Trump on something, we shouldn't listen to any of them?

physicians can join the 245,000 doctors in the AMA

You think all the doctors in the AMA agree on everything? Or even on this one thing? Unlikely.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.10    one week ago

Townhall?

jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
devangelical
4.1.38  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.31    one week ago

... created for quacks that will never be able to become board certified.

 
 
 
Split Personality
4.1.39  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.36    one week ago
You think all the doctors in the AMA agree on everything? Or even on this one thing? Unlikely.

I agree, however the AMA's official position as a professional medical group is not to use HCQ, or formaldehyde or whiskey or uranium when not clinically approved.

Just because HCQ was not effective doesn't mean it did not contribute the those veterans deaths in the VA system because it's an unnecessary drug that has to be accounted for chemically in a persons serology.

To most, it violates the Hippocratic Oath, "do no harm" and the "Keep it Simple Stupid" rule, by complicating an already complicated issue for no apparent reason.

...

The AAPS on the  other hand is a political organization that is anti insurance, anti Medicare, anti ACA, anti Social Security and believes that the Government has no right to force everyone to use vaccines.

The association advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS , that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer , and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism . It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of universal health insurance .

They have a published "Journal" that is so badly done and panned by peer review that the Library of Congress refuses to include it at the Library.

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.1.40  Tacos!  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.39    one week ago
it violates the Hippocratic Oath, "do no harm"

See, I just don't see the harm in taking a drug that might help against a disease that kills a lot of older people or people with underlying health issues, so long as a doctor is closely monitoring the effect on the rest of your body. Especially if you're the 73 year-old, pretty overweight, mild heart disease-having president of your country. They can always take him off the drug if he has issues. But if he gets really sick, it will be too late to try it.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4.1.41  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.40    one week ago

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Paula Bartholomew
4.1.42  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.31    one week ago
it is their official position that if the President says it works then that's good enough for them.
Where did these doctors get their degrees from, Cracker Jack University?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.43  Trout Giggles  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.1.33    one week ago

Just stop! I've been singing "My Corona" for the last 3 months!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.1.44  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.43    one week ago

I won this T-shirt 5 years ago at a Cinco de Mayo Jalapeno eating contest. Who knew how appropriate it would become.....................

384

 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.45  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.44    one week ago

Cool T-shirt! I had a brain fart tho....I thought it was pairing Corona beer with mayonnaise and I was about to make a wise-ass crack about it.

It's Friday....and I need a drink

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.1.46  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.45    one week ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

That was funny........and I can see how one may think that without the background history of it.

It's Friday....and I need a drink

LOL

384

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.1.47  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.46    one week ago

I'm a Crown and ginger girl

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.48  It Is ME  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.44    one week ago

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4.1.49  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.12    one week ago

Maybe he should try that one again..

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.50  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  It Is ME @4.1.48    one week ago

Those were a hoot.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.51  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.1.49    one week ago
Maybe he should try that one again..

For a brief instant, we all had more in common than I thought.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.52  It Is ME  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.1.50    one week ago

jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

Love that kinda stuff ! (Mandated Covid-19 isolation boredom dontchyknow) jrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Gsquared
5  Gsquared    2 weeks ago

Potential adverse effects of hydroxychloroquine include:  " Neuropsychiatric effects, such as agitation, confusion, hallucinations and paranoia".    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200408125521.htm  

Trump has probably been taking it for years...

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.1  Heartland American  replied to  Gsquared @5    2 weeks ago

Better take it away from all those Malaria and Lupus patients using it.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
5.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Heartland American @5.1    2 weeks ago

Why?  So people who don't need it like Trump can take it?   

 
 
 
Gsquared
5.1.2  Gsquared  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

Correction to prevent my comment from being wildly misconstrued:  So people like Trump who don't need it can take it?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
So people like Trump who don't need it can take it?

So, you're playing doctor now?  

Apparently his taking the drug was a decision made between President Trump and his DOCTOR as a prophylactic to avoid the disease as some people he might have had contact with were confirmed to have Covid19.

Maybe you're unaware, but there are multitudes of people that take medications for prophylactic purposes.   I'm one of them.  I have to self medicate prior to dental work as I've had both hips replaced and the SURGEONS who accomplished those surgeries, one in Virginia and one in Texas both informed me that I would need to self medicate to avoid serious infections whenever I had dental work done.

So, do YOU know more than my physicians or the physician that Trump has?   Those medications do require a prescription from a medical PROFESSIONAL after all.

 
 
 
Gsquared
5.1.4  Gsquared  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

I did not say there was anything wrong with people taking hydroxychloroquine under their doctor's instructions and supervision.  Where did you get that?  Wow.  A fair reading of my comment shows just the opposite.  Did you actually read my comment or just go into automatic Trump-defense mode?  You certainly are being defensive.

I do not believe for a second that Trump is actually taking  hydroxychloroquine.  That is nothing but propaganda. Trump speaks, Trump lies.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
5.1.5  Gsquared  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

If you need it, and your doctor prescribes it, you should take it.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.4    2 weeks ago
Where did you get that?

I might have misunderstood your words, but is this not what you said?

So people like Trump who don't need it can take it?

Are you not making the claim that Trump does not need to take it?  It was a decision between Trump and his doctor.

If I misunderstood, please accept my apologies.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Heartland American @5.1    2 weeks ago

The people suffering from malaria and lupus are under the careful care and scrutiny of medical professionals. I am fairly certain that if those patients start exhibiting neurological symptoms, their doctors will either adjust their dosage or take them off of it. You don't know how many malaria and lupus patients have stopped taking that drug for that very reason.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.8  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.7    2 weeks ago
The people suffering from malaria and lupus are under the careful care and scrutiny of medical professionals.

Are there not major differences that you appear to be neglecting?   Those taking it for malaria and lupus are usually on the medication for extended periods of time and yes are quite often under close medical supervision.  That is appreciably different than a short term use for a specific situation like Covid19.   It's kind of like any drug that's prescribed.  Long term uses generally require supervision, while immediate use short term applications do not.  Warafin vs Eliquis for example.

I am fairly certain that if those patients start exhibiting neurological symptoms, their doctors will either adjust their dosage or take them off of it.

Like the doctors that routinely prescribed SSRI's like candy but never followed up to see if any of the known deleterious side effects were manifesting themselves?  Those types of doctors?

You don't know how many malaria and lupus patients have stopped taking that drug for that very reason.

And you do?   

It's easy to play arm chair quarterback.  I can play all day long.  Your turn to pass.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.8    2 weeks ago

   

It's easy to play arm chair quarterback.  I can play all day long.  Your turn to pass.

Nah. Some people are just too easy to sack...............

jrSmiley_27_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.8    2 weeks ago
Are there not major differences that you appear to be neglecting?   Those taking it for malaria and lupus are usually on the medication for extended periods of time and yes are quite often under close medical supervision.

You're repeating what I just said

Long term uses generally require supervision, while immediate use short term applications do not. 

that depends on the drug. Some doctors may prescribe a heavy duty pain killer and keep close tabs on their patient. Morphine is a fine example. Used in the short term but scrutinized carefully

Like the doctors that routinely prescribed SSRI's like candy but never followed up to see if any of the known deleterious side effects were manifesting themselves?  Those types of doctors?

Not all doctors are created equally. If a doctor is neglecting her patient, then she's not a very doctor, is she and should be used for malpractice

You don't know how many malaria and lupus patients have stopped taking that drug for that very reason. And you do?

I'm not saying that I do. You're once again not comprehending my meaning and I can't do anything about that. I doubt very many of us on NT know any malaria or lupus patients that have been taken off hydroxychloroquine because of neurological side effects.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.9    2 weeks ago

If you have something to say to me, don't fucking pussy breath around and just have the balls to say it to me directly.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.12  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.10    2 weeks ago
Are there not major differences that you appear to be neglecting?   Those taking it for malaria and lupus are usually on the medication for extended periods of time and yes are quite often under close medical supervision.
You're repeating what I just said

Do you know what's funny?  I never noticed any indication in your original post about any extended period of time.  Just a proclamation that they're under supervision.  Period, end of story.   Not everyone knows that those medications are generally given for extended periods by specialists.

Long term uses generally require supervision, while immediate use short term applications do not. 
that depends on the drug. Some doctors may prescribe a heavy duty pain killer and keep close tabs on their patient. Morphine is a fine example. Used in the short term but scrutinized carefully

Agreed.  But then we're talking about the President taking a medication as a prophylactic as he was in proximity with Covid19 positive people.  I'm fairly certain that it is not going to be a long term situation as all WH personnel are under closer medical scrutiny than previously provided. 

Like the doctors that routinely prescribed SSRI's like candy but never followed up to see if any of the known deleterious side effects were manifesting themselves?  Those types of doctors?
Not all doctors are created equally. If a doctor is neglecting her patient, then she's not a very doctor, is she and should be used for malpractice

I'm glad we agree.   But many that prescribed SSRI's like candy did not followup and the end results of that malpractice were literally deadly.

You don't know how many malaria and lupus patients have stopped taking that drug for that very reason. And you do?
I'm not saying that I do. You're once again not comprehending my meaning and I can't do anything about that. I doubt very many of us on NT know any malaria or lupus patients that have been taken off hydroxychloroquine because of neurological side effects.

Then if you don't know, why did you ask another?  You should learn to not ask a question you don't know the answer to yourself.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.11    2 weeks ago

Was I addressing you? Why no. No I wasn't. But your post does bring something to mind............

320

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.12    2 weeks ago

I didn't ask a question, you did. That "And you do" at the end of my statement is your question, not mine.

Now let's be done because I tire of you

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.13    2 weeks ago

You were talking around me. Very passive aggressive. [deleted]

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.16  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.14    2 weeks ago
Now let's be done because I tire of you

Great to know.  Believe me, the feeling is quite mutual.

But you really should not ask a question that you yourself does not know the answer to.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.16    2 weeks ago

Can you not read? I didn't ask a question...you did.

I don't want any more replies from you unless it's an apology

 
 
 
devangelical
5.1.18  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.15    2 weeks ago

bwah ha ha, we've got targets on us out here because we reamed every socket on these knights fair maiden in HD. none of them have enough fur on their marbles to go in there.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.19  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.17    2 weeks ago
Can you not read? I didn't ask a question...you did.

Did you or did you not allude to such knowledge with this?

You don't know how many malaria and lupus patients have stopped taking that drug for that very reason.

Apologies accepted.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.20  XDm9mm  replied to  devangelical @5.1.18    2 weeks ago
bwah ha ha, we've got targets on us out here because we reamed every socket on these knights fair maiden in HD. none of them have enough fur on their marbles to go in there.

???????????????????????????????????????   Just sayin'.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.21  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @5.1.18    2 weeks ago

bwahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Do you think she went running for help?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.1.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.19    2 weeks ago

YOU ASKED THE QUESTION!

There was no allusion to anything in any of my comments. I made a statement. You might want to go back to 7th grade English class and learn what an allusion is. To learn the difference between declarative and interrogative statements you might need to go back to second grade.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.23  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.21    2 weeks ago

OK guys I am stepping in now and telling everyone to knock it off with the vague insults. 

Get back on topic. This thread is now closed. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
5.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Gsquared @5    2 weeks ago
Potential adverse effects of hydroxychloroquine include:  " Neuropsychiatric effects, such as agitation, confusion, hallucinations and paranoia".   

LOL

every drug reacts badly with some people.

seen those  drug commercials on tv with their laundry list of potential side effects?

    disclaimer:  may cause headaches, loss of vision, rectal bleeding, and explosive diarrhea.

sellin like hot cakes... LOL

 
 
 
Gsquared
5.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @5.2    2 weeks ago

Yes, people can have seriously adverse side effects from various drugs.

Are you suggesting that in addition to his hallucinations and paranoia, Trump's use of hydroxychloroquine is also responsible for his explosive diarrhea of the mouth?  Probably true...

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.3  dennis smith  replied to  Gsquared @5    2 weeks ago

Trumps and his doctors decision.

"Trump has probably been taking it for years. Proof please.

 
 
 
CB
6  CB     2 weeks ago

Why the hell is Trump taking it? For What? His health? Improvement in his "exotic" looks? What "good things" has he heard that he is taking if for?

This is stupid and incomplete reporting. People who need this drug for their health problems should not have to compete with clowns and jokers to get it. Enter clowns and jokers. . . ..

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.1  dennis smith  replied to  CB @6    2 weeks ago

Between Trump and his doctor and none of your business.

 
 
 
CB
6.1.1  CB   replied to  dennis smith @6.1    one week ago

BS. You wouldn't say that if your life was involved. If Trump was taking your 'meds' or suggesting the public take your family's meds during a pandemic shortage. Besides, he didn't have to tell us anything; but he did to the media of all groups of professionals. It's their job to ask questions and get responses. As for us, well we're here to discuss stuff, whether he answers or not! So Dennis, miss me.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @6    2 weeks ago

"Exotic" looks? You've been on a roll lately, my friend

 
 
 
1stwarrior
6.3  1stwarrior  replied to  CB @6    2 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @6.3    2 weeks ago

She looks pregnant. And the other photo is either photo shopped or snapped in a way to make him look thinner

 
 
 
devangelical
6.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.3.1    2 weeks ago

his mouth and elaborate comb-over make his body look smaller in proportion

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
6.3.3  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  1stwarrior @6.3    one week ago

Trump is 6'2" and weighs 243 pounds.  His BMI is 31.20.  He is, without a doubt, a fat ass.

 
 
 
devangelical
6.3.4  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.3.3    one week ago

...and a dumb ass... hell, he's got the entire negative ass spectrum covered...

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
6.3.5  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  devangelical @6.3.4    one week ago
..and a dumb ass... hell, he's got the entire negative ass spectrum covered...

Ha!!

 
 
 
Raven Wing
6.3.6  Raven Wing  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.3.3    one week ago
Trump is 6'2" and weighs 243 pounds.

And I just won the Oscar for Best Actress for the Mary Poppins remake.

Now....if you believe that I gots an Insta Train that will arrive in NYC in less than 2 hours you can buy for less than 2 grand. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
bbl-1
6.3.7  bbl-1  replied to  devangelical @6.3.2    one week ago

Trump wears a girdle.

 
 
 
CB
7  CB     2 weeks ago

Once again: Trump stabs science and responsible governance in its heart with his lies, omissions, and stupidity. Speaking of which, where are the enablers right now on this?

Note: In my opinion, Trump supporters who speak up positively about this should 'lead' right along beside Trump taking it!

BTW, Biden are you HEARING THIS STORY?! Got an ad ready this fall?

 
 
 
Heartland American
7.1  Heartland American  replied to  CB @7    2 weeks ago

God forbid he takes it with Zinc after others in the White House working around him have come done with it.  He’s about to be 74 years old so it’s a good precaution.  

 
 
 
CB
7.1.1  CB   replied to  Heartland American @7.1    2 weeks ago

Enablers should support Trump in this. Rally around Trump with zinc and Hydroxychloroquine. Rah! Rah! Rah!  Now hear this:

190517-donald-trump-al-1458_dcb2e778b98d

He-Man

Takes

Precautions!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.1.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Heartland American @7.1    2 weeks ago
He’s about to be 74 years old so it’s a good precaution.  

Trump's advanced age, heart trouble, and morbid obesity make him a poor candidate for Hydroxychloroquine.  In addition, it is not a preventative. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
7.1.3  Heartland American  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7.1.2    2 weeks ago
  • There are doctors and scientists who swear by it.  
 
 
 
devangelical
7.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7.1.2    2 weeks ago

... his size is all the more reason to increase the dosage

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.1.5  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Heartland American @7.1.3    2 weeks ago
There are doctors and scientists who swear by it.

Link, please.  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.1.6  1stwarrior  replied to  devangelical @7.1.4    2 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.6    2 weeks ago

Yeah...your earlier photo of Ms Abrams proves she was pregnant in it

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.1.8  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.7    2 weeks ago

How can you tell?  Got some proof on the pregnancy?  She has been overweight for many years.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.8    2 weeks ago

Look at her in the first photo....then the second photo. Either she had a really big lunch in the first photo or she was damn close to having a baby. Her stomach is noticeably flatter (not a lot, but still) in the second one

So what if she is overweight. She's not lying about how healthy she is and saying she's taller or weighs less than she actually does.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.9    one week ago
She's not lying about how healthy she is and saying she's taller or weighs less than she actually does.

You can't possibly know that can you? Please share. Really.

 
 
 
Kavika
7.1.11  Kavika   replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.6    one week ago

I'm sure that Trump doesn't do any name-calling or insults...../s

 
 
 
Raven Wing
7.1.12  Raven Wing  replied to  Kavika @7.1.11    one week ago

Trump - jrSmiley_51_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.1.13  1stwarrior  replied to  Kavika @7.1.11    one week ago

Only to Nancy who deserves every word /S

 
 
 
Kavika
7.1.14  Kavika   replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.13    one week ago
Only to Nancy who deserves every word /S

That parallel universe is great place for people to avoid reality. LOL 

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.15  Dulay  replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.8    one week ago

Why do you think that your are making a cogent argument by mocking someone else's physique? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.10    one week ago

Have you heard her speak about her weight or her health? I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to hearing about that subject

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @7.1.11    one week ago

But it's ok if he does it

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.13    one week ago

Oh, c'mon 1st! He's called women all manner of names!

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @7.1.11    one week ago

Really tRump NEVER insults ANYONE about their LOOKS OR THEIR WEIGHT.  NEVER.  

 
 
 
cjcold
7.1.20  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @7.1.4    one week ago
increase the dosage

He doubles down on every other stupid thing he does or says so...…….

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
7.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  CB @7    2 weeks ago
Biden are you HEARING THIS STORY?! Got an ad ready this fall?

biden is not the nominee

but we can talk more during the dnc convention

I hear it will be a real schit show   :)

 
 
 
Gsquared
7.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @7.2    2 weeks ago

If that's what you hear, you should seriously think about scheduling an appointment with your ENT... (Are we aloud to joke on here? Or does this get flagged for taunting?)

 
 
 
dennis smith
7.2.2  dennis smith  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @7.2    2 weeks ago

Biden will struggle to talk coherently during the Dem nominating convention.

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  dennis smith @7.2.2    2 weeks ago

Biden will struggle to talk coherently during the Dem nominating convention.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.2.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MrFrost @7.2.3    one week ago

If I slurred my speech as badly as he did in some of those clips in front of a cop, they would have administered a breathalyzer test.

 
 
 
MrFrost
7.2.5  MrFrost  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.2.4    one week ago

Very true.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.2.6  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @7.2.3    one week ago

I literally have tears streaming down my face!  What a ding dong!  I haven't laughed this hard since the Al Sharpton vs. teleprompter video went viral.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.2.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7.2.6    one week ago

Once it comes time for Trump and Biden to debate, Biden should play that clip when Trump goes on attack.

 
 
 
It Is ME
7.2.8  It Is ME  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.2.7    one week ago
Biden should play that clip when Trump goes on attack.

Joe needs vids to communicate now ? 

He's worse than everyone thought. jrSmiley_19_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
8  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago

Although masks are not a perfect preventative for those who wear them, they are much better at preventing the wearer from SPREADING the virus.  Since the first two weeks of being infected has no symptoms, and yet a person is still capable of SPREADING the virus during those weeks, even if one thinks they are not infected it is a matter of common courtesy to others to wear a mask when close to others - a courtesy that selfish pigs do not bother with. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
9  Gazoo    2 weeks ago

“they are much better at preventing the wearer from SPREADING the virus.”

That’s what worries me the most about covid-19 and why i wear a mask whenever i go out in public. For some, covid-19 could be a death sentence and i treat it that way.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
9.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gazoo @9    2 weeks ago

You're doing the right thing.  And you understand the reason to stay the hell away from those who ignore the guidelines and DON'T bother wearing a mask.

 
 
 
freepress
11  freepress    2 weeks ago

No doctor in his right mind would prescribe an Anti-malarial drug as a "preventative" measure. They would NEVER prescribe a Zpak unless it was a serious infection, usually respiratory in nature. Zinc is something a lot of people take as a vitamin supplement but it can interact with other medications. The letter his doctor released does not confirm this as a fact. There is no fake news, just fake statements from a reckless man pretending to be a leader. Just spouting off nonsense to boost a cronies stock portfolio most likely.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  freepress @11    2 weeks ago
There is no fake news, just fake statements from a reckless man pretending to be a leader. Just spouting off nonsense to boost a cronies stock portfolio most likely.

No argument from me!  

 
 
 
dennis smith
11.2  dennis smith  replied to  freepress @11    2 weeks ago

More like fake comments from the Trump haters.

 
 
 
bbl-1
11.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  dennis smith @11.2    one week ago

No such thing as 'Trump haters.'  Only those who desire not to 'love him.'

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
11.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  bbl-1 @11.2.1    one week ago

I'm a proud trmp-hater. I've embraced the term because I figure they're just gonna keep calling me one. BTW, I do hate the man.

It's ok to refer to me as such.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
11.2.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.2    one week ago

384

jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
11.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.2.3    one week ago

I love Bugs!

But it is true. I am a proud trmp-hater but you already knew that. Happy Memorial Day Weekend, Jim. It's the start of 101 Days of Summer. Be careful out there

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
11.2.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.4    one week ago

You too and I will put him back....................

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
11.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.2.5    one week ago

You didn't have to do that. Bugs is the original cartoon smart-ass.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
11.2.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.6    one week ago

I thought that was Foghorn Leghorn.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
11.2.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @11.2.7    one week ago

He was the original grouchy old man

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
11.2.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @11.2.8    one week ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
It Is ME
12  It Is ME    2 weeks ago

Doctors know best for their patients. jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif  

See bust of Dr. Fauci on pedestal ! jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MrFrost
13  MrFrost    2 weeks ago

So I guess the bleach wasn't working for him? 

 
 
 
devangelical
13.1  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @13    one week ago

maybe he should try vaping it... 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
13.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @13.1    one week ago

I suggest an enema

 
 
 
MrFrost
14  MrFrost    2 weeks ago

Is anyone surprised by this? Apparently trump loves his pills. 

800

For the record? His pupils under light shouldn't be that big, that's clearly abnormal. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
14.1  Split Personality  replied to  MrFrost @14    one week ago

 
 
 
devangelical
14.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @14.1    one week ago

 one of many iconic moments in that film. the outtakes are equally hilarious.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
14.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @14.1    one week ago

I always wondered when Peter Boyle used a Frankenstein costume for a Halloween episode of Everybody Loves Raymond if it was coincidence or a tribute to one of the funniest movies of all time.

 
 
 
Tessylo
14.2  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @14    one week ago

Is that a side effect of snorting adderall?

 
 
 
MrFrost
14.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  Tessylo @14.2    one week ago

Yes. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
15  Tacos!    one week ago

Well, let's hope it works for him. I'm sure he will be monitored for side effects. Of course there is probably no way to know for sure if it helps at all when/if he gets sick, but as long as it isn't hurting him, what do we all care? It's his business.

 
 
 
Dulay
15.1  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @15    one week ago
It's his business.

Which is why he announced it on live television. /s

 
 
 
Tacos!
15.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @15.1    one week ago

Announced? I guess. It really wasn't much of an announcement. It's not like he set aside time to make it a special announcement. It was more like "oh by the way . . . "

It was just a supporting comment to a conversation where they were already talking about the drug. The context was that a lot of people were taking it with good reason and doing just fine. For example: front line medical workers, and him.  

But people are acting like this personal medical decision is some kind of national crisis. To that degree, it's really not anyone's business.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
15.1.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dulay @15.1    one week ago
Which is why he announced it on live television. /s

Nothin' but net!!!!!!

 
 
 
Dulay
15.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @15.1.1    one week ago
Announced? I guess. It really wasn't much of an announcement. It's not like he set aside time to make it a special announcement. It was more like "oh by the way . . . "

Trump's own statement refutes you claim. 

From the transcript of the event:

So it’s been heavily tested, in terms of — I was just waiting to see your eyes light up when I said this, but — you know, when I announced this.  But, yeah, I have taken it for about a week and a half now, and I’m still here.  I’m still here.

 
 
 
Tessylo
15.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @15.1.1    one week ago

AND he backpedals . . . or is moving the goal posts?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
15.1.5  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dulay @15.1.3    one week ago

 
 
 
Tacos!
15.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @15.1.4    one week ago

Nope. I still think it's his business and I still don't see why you think you should get to care.

 
 
 
Tacos!
15.1.7  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @15.1.3    one week ago

It's still not your business. There's nothing going on here that says you or anyone else should be passing judgment on whether or not he should be taking the drug.

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.1.8  dennis smith  replied to  Tacos! @15.1.1    one week ago

Taking things out of context is a textbook response for Trump haters.

 
 
 
katrix
15.1.10  katrix  replied to  Tacos! @15.1.7    one week ago

It is my business if our president is lying.. And in this case his lies could kill people. Granted it would kill stupid people, but still. And I guess you don't give a shit if people who actually need this drug for lupus and such can't get it. Smh.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
15.1.11  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  dennis smith @15.1.8    one week ago
Taking things out of context is a textbook response for Trump haters.

What is being taken out of context?

 
 
 
Tacos!
15.1.12  Tacos!  replied to  katrix @15.1.10    one week ago
It is my business if our president is lying.

Which part of it was a lie? That he was taking the meds or that he was doing fine so far? And how would you know?

And in this case his lies could kill people.

How?

And I guess you don't give a shit if people who actually need this drug for lupus and such can't get it.

I would care very much. Is that documented as actually happening? And is it just because of Trump or is it also because doctors all over the world are trying it with their patients? And if it's the case that doctors genuinely want to try the drug, shouldn't they be able to?

 
 
 
Dulay
15.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @15.1.7    one week ago
It's still not your business.

Trump WANTED it to everybody's business, he'll do or say anything to deflect. 

There's nothing going on here that says you or anyone else should be passing judgment on whether or not he should be taking the drug.

The only judgments I have made in this thread are of your BS comments. 

 
 
 
Gordy327
15.1.14  Gordy327  replied to  katrix @15.1.10    one week ago

Hey Kat, how are you doing. I haven't seen you around much.

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.1.15  dennis smith  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @15.1.11    one week ago

Announced? I guess. It really wasn't much of an announcement. It's not like he set aside time to make it a special announcement. It was more like "oh by the way . . . "

It was just a supporting comment to a conversation where they were already talking about the drug. The context was that a lot of people were taking it with good reason and doing just fine. For example: front line medical workers, and him.  

But people are acting like this personal medical decision is some kind of national crisis. To that degree, it's really not anyone's business.

Read the second paragraph.

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.1.16  dennis smith  replied to  katrix @15.1.10    one week ago
Announced? I guess. It really wasn't much of an announcement. It's not like he set aside time to make it a special announcement. It was more like "oh by the way . . . "

It was just a supporting comment to a conversation where they were already talking about the drug. The context was that a lot of people were taking it with good reason and doing just fine. For example: front line medical workers, and him.  

But people are acting like this personal medical decision is some kind of national crisis. To that degree, it's really not anyone's business.

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.1.17  dennis smith  replied to  katrix @15.1.10    one week ago

Medical decisions are between doctor and patient. Are you saying he is lying about taking the prescribed medication?

And I guess you don't give a shit if people who actually need this drug for lupus and such can't get it. Smh

You GUESS is wrong.

 And there is no shortage of this medication for those who take it for Lupus.

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.1.18  dennis smith  replied to  Dulay @15.1.13    one week ago
Does your crystal ball tell you what Trump WANTED or are you a mind reader?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
15.1.19  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tacos! @15.1.12    one week ago
How?
When you have people attempting to make their own, that is how.  Remember the idiot who used the form of it meant for fish?
 
 
 
Tessylo
15.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @15    one week ago
'It's his business.'

jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.2.1  dennis smith  replied to  Tessylo @15.2    one week ago

Doctor/patient decisions are between doctors and patients

No matter what Trump says, Trump haters will see the glass as empty (not even half empty and), while those who support our President are able to see the glass as half full.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
15.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  dennis smith @15.2.1    one week ago

Fuck Trump, he's no damn good. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.2.3  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @15.2.2    one week ago

Your intelligence level really came through on that comment. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
15.2.4  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  dennis smith @15.2.1    one week ago

Doctor/patient decisions are between doctors and patients

Except the ones that are brought to light in a national news presser.

No matter what Trump says, Trump haters will see the glass as empty (not even half empty and), while those who support our President are able to see the glass as half full.

Not a big fan of comment spamming on my seeds/articles unless I'm the one doing it.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  dennis smith @15.2.1    one week ago

Only half full? Why don't  you see it as completely full? I mean, we trmp haters are the complete opposite of you trmp lovers, right?

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.2.6  dennis smith  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @15.2.4    one week ago

Not a big fan of comment spamming on my seeds/threads unless I'm the one doing it. An expected typical comment

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.2.7  dennis smith  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.5    one week ago

I don't see any glass as completely full. Learned early in life that there are two sides to things, unfortunately the Trump haters seemed to have never learned that.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
15.2.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  dennis smith @15.2.7    one week ago
Learned early in life that there are two sides to things, unfortunately the Trump haters seemed to have never learned that.

I see that there are two sides to Trump, the dried shit stain side and the wet shit stained side. Neither are much of a choice for any sane rational American. He is a compulsive liar, has admitted on tape he doesn't "even wait" for consent and just starts kissing women he finds attractive and believes he can grab women by the pussy because he thinks he's a star, is a monumental narcissist and an abject moron. There is no side of Trump that includes "competent human being", he is the very definition of the worst humanity has to offer.

 
 
 
CB
15.2.9  CB   replied to  Dismayed Patriot @15.2.8    one week ago

Donald Trump deserved all that. Now then, some enabler will abuse the word, "hater," in a pathetic attempt at shaming, but it won't work. Because Donald Trump is somewhere in the country right this instance insisting somebody else kiss his ASS, disrespecting the recent dead (Trump: 'They were old and near death anyway.'), and deliberately telling liberals what's good for them is to kiss Mitch McConnell's 'shell' on the underside.

I suggest we continue to pour truth into the political wound on Donald Trump's head.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.2.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  dennis smith @15.2.7    one week ago

Well, that's one way to back track on a comment....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.2.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @15.2.9    one week ago

I think we should embrace the term "trmp hater". I know that's difficult for you, CB, because you're a good man and don't hate anybody. But I figure if they're gonna call us haters we should

Celebrate it!

Enjoy it!

Make T-shirts!

Bumperstickers

And the best of all .................HATS!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Texan1211
15.2.12  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.11    one week ago
I think we should embrace the term "trmp hater".

Oh, I agree 100%!!

A lot to be said about truth in advertising....

 
 
 
CB
15.2.13  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.11    one week ago

Yes! What I hate is every time I make a gracious attempt to give Trump a chance at a redemption of his humanity and decency, he demonstrates he is unworthy of consideration.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.2.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  CB @15.2.13    one week ago

I thought you were gonna say you hate brussels sprouts

 
 
 
CB
15.2.15  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.14    one week ago

I like brussels sprouts (to a point). Little balls of something that tastes, well, green. About the third serving!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
15.2.16  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.14    one week ago
I thought you were gonna say you hate brussels sprouts

If Trump is anything, he's Lima beans.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.2.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @15.2.16    one week ago

Aww...C'mon, Sis! I like lima beans!

Can we make him a black -eyed pea or boiled okra?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
15.2.18  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.17    one week ago
Can we make him a black -eyed pea or boiled okra?

Either one of those works for me!  How about boiled okra with a side of mashed black-eyed peas?

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.2.19  dennis smith  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @15.2.8    one week ago

Still being bitter since Trump was elected suits you well.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.2.20  dennis smith  replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.10    one week ago

No backtrack, was needed except by those who cannot understand basic English

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.2.21  dennis smith  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @15.2.8    one week ago

You have Trump confused with Botox ridden Pelosi

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.2.22  dennis smith  replied to  CB @15.2.13    one week ago

Your opinion is not proof.

 
 
 
CB
15.2.23  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.17    one week ago

HA I just got back from a store run looking and asking about my old friend, Black-eye pea! They said tey don't know why they put product on their order list and it does not come in the shipments, these days. Boiled okra? I love it in food—but not by itself. Lima beans, I am 'lean'  on and they are on the store shelve I just left right beside garbanza beans, lentil, and black beans -TG!

 
 
 
CB
15.2.24  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @15.2.18    one week ago

HA! Ladies, you spot me a chunk of corn bread and its a road-trip for me!

 
 
 
CB
15.2.25  CB   replied to  dennis smith @15.2.22    one week ago

Proof of what? What you got going there, Dennis?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
15.2.26  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  CB @15.2.24    one week ago
Ladies, you spot me a chunk of corn bread and its a road-trip for me!

Come visit any time, but the entire cornbreadtomatoesonionscollardgreensoneblackeyedpea(one) happens only on New Years Day.  And PS:  I have a limited repertoire of edible and/or desirable food-fare.  Cornbread happens to be near the top.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.2.27  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @15.2.26    one week ago

I happen to have a pound of Northerns and Pintos in the pantry. Stop on by (You, too, CB) and I will cook those beans for ya (hope you like ham with them) and make you cornbread from the blue and white box (this damyankee don't know nothing about making no cornbread).

I also fry potatoes with my beans. But you might not wanna watch me eat beans and potatoes

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
15.2.28  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  CB @15.2.15    one week ago

My mom used to tell me that they were tiny cabbages.  I would never eat them cooked but I did like them raw.

 
 
 
CB
15.2.29  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @15.2.26    one week ago

YUMMIES!

 
 
 
CB
15.2.30  CB   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @15.2.28    one week ago

I love 'em (until I get to the 3rd helping). (Chuckles.)

 
 
 
CB
15.2.31  CB   replied to  Trout Giggles @15.2.27    one week ago

Hm mm, pinto beans! I'm gonna bite myself. I can make the cornbread and it's good, and its finished lickety-split!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
15.2.32  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  CB @15.2.30    one week ago

They used to give my father gas.

 
 
 
Freewill
15.2.33  Freewill  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @15.2.32    one week ago
They used to give my father gas.

Mine too.  And I know from experience that this can be hereditary...  jrSmiley_16_smiley_image.gif  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
15.2.34  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Freewill @15.2.33    6 days ago

You will get no argument on that from me.jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
katrix
15.3  katrix  replied to  Tacos! @15    one week ago

He already shows many of the side effects .. paranoia, delusions and such. So how will be able to tell?

 
 
 
Sparty On
15.3.1  Sparty On  replied to  katrix @15.3    one week ago
He already shows many of the side effects .. paranoia, delusions and such

Holy crap!   There are whole shitload of people here on NT that have the Covid if thats true.

Specifically the delusional issue.

Signs, signs, everywhere signs ...

Breakin up the scenery  breakin my mind ...

Whine this, cry that, can't they read the signs

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.3.2  dennis smith  replied to  katrix @15.3    one week ago

Perfect description of Biden

 
 
 
katrix
15.4  katrix  replied to  Tacos! @15    one week ago

He already shows many of the side effects .. paranoia, delusions and such. So how will be able to tell?

 
 
 
loki12
16  loki12    one week ago

Just more liberal hypocrisy on display,

Kill the unborn:  It's a choice between a woman and her doctor.

hydroxychloroquine: How dare trump make a choice between him and his doctor.

 
 
 
devangelical
16.1  devangelical  replied to  loki12 @16    one week ago

it's been stated by several here on the right that trumpski's health care choices are just between he and his doctor. newsflash - trumpski just neutered the rightwing's 50 year old pro life/anti choice go-to wedge issue for the 2020 campaign, and a lot of his supporters are too ignorant to ever realize it.