Trump says he's taking malaria drug to protect against virus
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Via: sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom • 5 years ago • 438 commentsBy: ZEKE MILLER, MARILYNN MARCHIONE and DARLENE SUPERVILLE (MSN)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Monday that he is taking a malaria drug to protect against the new coronavirus, despite warnings from his own government that it should only be administered for COVID-19 in a hospital or research setting due to potentially fatal side effects.
Trump told reporters he has been taking the drug, hydroxychloroquine, and a zinc supplement daily "for about a week and a half now." Trump spent weeks pushing the drug as a potential cure or prophylaxis for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration's top medical professionals. The drug has the potential to cause significant side effects in some patients and has not been shown to combat the new coronavirus.
Trump said his doctor did not recommend the drug to him, but he requested it from the White House physician.
"I started taking it, because I think it's good," Trump said. "I've heard a lot of good stories."
The Food and Drug Administration warned health professionals last month that the drug should not be used to treat COVID-19 outside of hospital or research settings, due to sometimes fatal side effects. Regulators issued the alert for the drug, which can also be used to treat lupus and arthritis, after receiving reports of heart-rhythm problems, including deaths, from poison control centers and other health providers.
Trump dismissed reports of side effects, saying, "All I can tell you is, so far I seem to be OK."
At least two White House staffers tested positive for COVID-19 earlier this month, sparking concerns about the steps taken by the administration to protect the president and sending Vice President Mike Pence and other officials into varying forms of self-isolation.
The White House has since mandated that those in the West Wing wear face coverings and has introduced daily testing for the virus for the president, vice president and those they come in close contact with.
Trump last underwent an "interim" checkup in a November visit to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center that was not noted on his public schedule. His last complete physical took place in February 2019.
Trump has repeatedly pushed the use of the drug with or without the antibiotic azithromycin, but no large, rigorous studies have found them safe or effective for preventing or treating COVID-19.
Two large observational studies, each involving around 1,400 patients in New York, recently found no benefit from hydroxychloroquine. Two new ones published Thursday in the medical journal BMJ reached the same conclusion.
One, by French researchers, gave 84 hospitalized patients the drug and 97 others the usual care. There were no differences in the odds of death, need for intensive care or developing severe illness.
The other study from China was a stricter test: 150 adults hospitalized with mild or moderate illness were randomly assigned to get hydroxychloroquine or usual care. The drug made no difference in rates of clearing the virus or time to relief of symptoms, and they brought more side effects.
In April, the National Institutes of Health launched a study testing hydroxychloroquine versus a placebo drug in 500 hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Last week, NIH announced another study to see if hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin can prevent hospitalization or death in people with mild to moderate illness. About 2,000 U.S. adults with confirmed coronavirus infections and symptoms such as fever, cough or shortness of breath will get the drugs or placebo pills.
U.S. prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine surged roughly 80% in March to more than 830,000 compared with same period in the prior year, according to data tracking firm IQVIA. That jump in prescribing came before the federal government accepted nearly 30 million doses of the drug donated to the strategic national stockpile by foreign drugmakers. Since then, millions of those tablets have been shipped to U.S. hospitals nationwide for use treating patients with COVID-19.
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I don't even know what to say about this.
How about saying you wish our president well?
fuck trump
Lol!
Why lie?
Oh i’m sorry, i thought adults were having a discussion.
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'Oh i’m sorry, i thought adults were having a discussion.'
That does not include you.
Awww geez, if only i had acted more childish.
That's one of the reasons I don't participate so much here now. Some folks can certainly dish it out but not take it.
MIRROR ?
Quote from comment 1.1.7 Tessylo replied to Gazoo @ 1.1.4 :
"That's one of the reasons I don't participate so much here now."
The actor that played Eddie Haskell died today.
Did he have Covid-19?
I guess that would be relevant if he were taking hydroxychloroquine.
But if Trump merely suggests something might work then it’s katie bar the door in the efforts to denigrate it and make it next to impossible to get. The anti side on this issue is driven by nothing but TDS.
COD - COPD.
This question to John was intended as a gentle re-direct back to the topic at hand.
In addition, to those saying that Trump's health is none of my business, I beg to differ. He works for me. When his health comes into question, I'm going to say something about it, just as I would with any other president.
Yet Trump's Doctor DID make a public statement about it and failed to confirm that Trump is actually taking the drug.
Opps.
Trump said his doctor did not recommend the drug to him, but he requested it from the White House physician.
He requested it and the doctor gave it to him?
Well all righty then.
Let him keep taking it
I can see why you would be concerned for his health. I think we all should be. But I don't think it's our place to judge the medical decisions he makes for himself. He and his doctor know far more about his body than we do. He still has the right to make those calls.
The WH physician is the one that failed to confirm that Trump is taking the drug. Feel free to go review his press release. It's crafted very carefully.
Why should the WH Doctor lie for Trump. That Doctor will still be in practice long after Trump is out of office, so why should he jeopardize his own career and reputation to lie for someone who is a better liar than anyone else could be and ruin his own lifes career.
He would be a total idiot to lie, or even broadly hint that Trump was taking the drug he says he is. And I doubt that that Doctor made sure that Trump knew about all the dangerous side effects, if he is indeed taking the drug. Which in itself may be just one more lie on Trumps part to promote the sale of the drug to increase his investment return.
After reading his press release, and it's careful wording, it's obvious to me that the WH Doctor didn't prescribe HCQ to Trump. He was too much of a pussy to deny Trump's claim in plain language but he also doesn't seem to want to out and out lie. Hence his equivocation.
BTW, those in the employ of this WH seem to have one basic thing in common; an utter lack of intestinal fortitude. I have yet to see one resign on principle, other than Mattis of course.
Exactly. We have a right to know if Trump's eyes are rolling around in his head (more than usual), because of some 'meds.'
H. R. Puff N Stuff and friend.
Well....If they didn't know what kind of person Trump was before he was elected as POTUS they certainly should by now. IMHO, anyone at this pint that takes a job at the WH, or anywhere near Trump, should know they are risking their reputation, to say nothing of their own freedom, by working for or with him. They should understand that working for him in any capacity makes them a potential scapegoat for anything and everything that comes Trumps way.
Most everyone who thought they were being given the great honor to work for/with Trump has now found out that they were simply more fodder needed as Trumps' fall guy and yet they hang in there hoping they aren't going to be the next to fall.
And that tells me a lot about them, and it ain't good. At least it proves that Mattis has some self respect and backbone.
Yes please. They say it's very risky for those in his age and weight group, elderly and morbidly obese.
Eddy Haskell on "The Beav" was GREAT !
Loved him ! 
Unfortunately due to doctor/patient confidentiality, he can only release that info with the patient's authorization.
I would bet that what his aides are calling hydroxychloroquine is probably a placebo.
Most likely Ex-lax. They are all totally full of Scheisse.
As if the White House doctor would engage in such a thing.
my guess would be tic tacs with all the shit that flies out of his mouth
Did you SEE what Trump's WH Doctor said about Trump? Hell, they added an inch to Trump's height to make it seem like he wasn't obese.
I wouldn't be too sure about what any doctor might do to keep his job
That was my favorite Normism. A close second was, "It's a dog-eat-dog world, Sammy, and I'm wearing Milk Bone underwear."
You close second has been my favorite for years. Too many people say "I'm okay." when asked just to be polite and avoid answering questions. If I'm not okay, I use that line. Most who know me think it's just humor on my part and usually smile. I look at it this way. I made someone smile and didn't have to lie about how I was.
I wonder how that would play these days. Do people know what Milk Bone is anymore?
Removed for context
Perhaps inquiring minds would rather not address irrelevant whataboutisms.
I think they added two inches. Look at pics of trump standing next to Obama who is 6'1" or next to Trudeau who is 6'2". He may have been 6'3" back in his youth but he's certainly not that now.
Sister has expressed a preference for healthy politicians and Stacey Abrams' weight, (as a top contender in the VeepSweeps) is a legitimate topic for that concern, BTMFW -
"In addition, to those saying that Trump's health is none of my business, I beg to differ. He works for me. When his health comes into question, I'm going to say something about it, just as I would with any other president."
But, carry on with the Eddie Haskell comments.
Then goose should have addressed his 'concern' to Sister instead of ME.
You seem to have the same issue as goose. I haven't made any comments in that vein.
Yous, if that makes more sense to you.
It doesn't.
What the huh?
I don't have a dog, but I keep them on hand for my neighbor's dog because Meatball is too cool for obedience school.
It’s a matter between him and his doctor. It with the anti biotic and zinc seems to be an effective prevention tool and mitigation if taken while not infected yet or immediately upon infection. He started taking it around the time that some who work inside the White House were coming down with it. No one wants our President hospitalized or in ICU like Boris Johnson was. We wish him well and pray for his health, safety, and wisdom in dealing with the pandemic and reopening America.
lucky for him it isn't an unwanted pregnancy, otherwise we'd have to listen to a bunch of endless bullshit from religious hypocrites
Are you going to start taking it? If not, why?
Oh, you do enough praying for 10 people so I think I'll continue with my heathenish ways
If I felt the need to do so I would. I’m not particularly exposed to Wuhan-19 so I haven’t seen a doctor about it.
Are you sure you haven't been exposed?
That's true for most people.
Unfortunately, however, as President of the United States he has a responsibility not only to himself-- but also to other Americans.
And when he acts recklessly-- possibly even endangering his own life-- the results have a major effect on all Americans....
All one can say is that it is medication being administered as part of a doctor patient relationship. Other than that the drug hydroxychloroquine has been pushed to the back seat simply because this President called it promising.
That's about it!
It is not taking a back seat because Trump is taking it. Right now it is being researched and clinical trials are ongoing to see it really is a benefit to fight cv or not. If I had cv, and it had been proven effective, I would not refuse to take it just because Trump is. I am no Trump fan but I would not cut my nose off to spite my face if I know there is an effective medication. The only thing that would stop me from taking it is if the possible side effects might be worse than the disease itself. He can call it a little red wagon for all I care. I will wait for science's conclusion and listen to the experts over someone who thinks drinking disinfectants might be a cure. Although I will give him this. He had mentioned about certain light sources that might assist in some way. The University of California/Santa Barbara Researchers are developing ultraviolet LEDs that have the ability to decontaminate surfaces and potentially air and water. Although it would not be for internal exposure as he alluded to, it was food for thought.
There actually is a company that has been developing internal UV therapy for intubated patients. They literally slide this light tube into the body and light it up from the inside. It kills bacteria and viruses, but not mammalian tissue. They've been working on it since 2016.
Based on Trump's actual language that day, it sounded like he had been briefed on something like this.
So clearly, he didn't just invent the idea. Someone told him about it. But since most journalists haven't heard about it, the quick conclusion was that Trump is out of his mind again.
UV Light Therapy is Being Studied as COVID-19 Treatment at Cedars Sinai Hospital
Exactly! And from that the media and their democrat handlers went all in on him saying to drink Clorox and inject Lysol inside ourselves...
That is a fair question. It would all depend on whether I would be asymptomatic or not. If positive but asymptomatic, no. If I had symptoms, it would depend on the severity. If the doctors told me that I most likely would die without at least seeing if it worked, then maybe I would if all other revenues of treatment for the existing symptoms were exhausted. To quote Trump "What would I have to lose." What I will not and would not do is take it as a prophylactic as he is doing. He should take normal precautions such as social distancing as much as possible, carrying hand sanitizer, avoid hand shaking (people would understand) and wear a mask. He should also look at things that can boost his immune system through diet. He could still have his precious junk food, but there are other foods that he could also eat.
Perhaps he was talking about something more like THIS (See video on this page). Although a prototype and not yet approved of course as a treatment for Covid-19, the Healight Technology being developed at AYTU Bioscience shows some promise as a treatment for such diseases.
I saw a story about a clothing store owner who has installed the lights, both at the entry and in the overhead fixtures. It is to kill the virus that might me on the shopper and supposedly the clothes for sale. Any clothes tried on but not bought are sidelined for 24 hours before put back on the racks.
Make that "might be" instead of "might me". I sure don't want to get busted by a certain member here who thinks they are the spelling/grammar police who I have nicknamed Kettle/Pot so I corrected myself.
Nope.
Its been "pushed to the back seat" because numerous doctors have explained that it is often causing serious side effects-- including death!
UV treatment has been used for years in the water and wastewater industries to purify or disinfect the flow streams. Many of my clients use UV disinfection technologies in their processes.
I always thought UV light killed the bugs (bacteria, virus’s etc). Turns out it sterilizes them so they cannot reproduce.
Which means they eventually die out before they can cause disease, or further disease, as the case may be.
COVID-19 is the name of the coronavirus disease, but the underlying virus is called severe acute respiratory syndrome - coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).
As I understand it, treatments or prescribed procedures typically address the symptoms and spread of the disease, whereas vaccines or other medicines that kill or block the virus from replication address the actual virus.
I saw on the news yesterday that NY is experimenting with that on their subways.
Turns out it sterilizes them so they cannot reproduce
I wonder if that would work on Trumpers.
UV treatment works well for killing E coli, but the problem is it doesn't leave a residual so you can determine if you have effective disinfectant in your distribution, that's why chlorine or chloroamines are necessary after the UV
I did not realize that. Great info...ty.
its been used for that for years.(Especially in hospitals)
However it takes a strong dose to kill many of the more resistant germs. In some cases, a large enough dose to kill all bad germs would be dangerous to humans.
In hospitals it used for a period to de-contaminate a room when patients aren't in them. (After a period, they turn it off and bring the patient(s) back to the room)._
Even better are the specialized robots thet were invented a while back that do the job:
Autonomous Robots Are Helping Kill Coronavirus in Hospitals
Robots that can efficiently disinfect hospitals using UV light could slow coronavirus infections
If you can't say something good, then don't say anything.
Why not pass that advise on to some of your good 'ol boys here as well. They can use it too.
'If you can't say something good, then don't say anything.'
Good advice, you should do that.
The 'president' needs to take that advice as well along with his supporters.
Do you really think he is taking it?
No way! Just another Trump lie, possibly because he has stock in the company producing it.
Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer: NYT
The horror................LOL
So you are acknowledging that what I said was true and accurate. Thank you...
That is a foolish belief then.
Prove it.
So? Doesn't matter which.
I do, you need to stop ignoring them.
My God, there are studies all over the place.
From The New England Journal of Medicine:
Widening access to experimental therapies that have not been fully evaluated is likely to have several unintended consequences. First, benefits to patients are unknown and may be negligible (as in the case of peramivir), in which case expanded access undermines physicians’ attempts to practice evidence-based medicine. Second, medications such as hydroxychloroquine have well-documented risks; subjecting patients to these risks would be unjustifiable in the absence of meaningful clinical benefit. Third, distributing unproven drugs under expanded access or EUAs may detract from the resources needed to carry out clinical trials, including the patient base and necessary funds. Since key outcome data are often not collected outside a trial, this redirection of resources will hamper our ability to quickly determine whether these drugs are truly safe and effective.
For the Covid-19 pandemic and other pressing medical challenges, the health of individual patients and the public at large will be best served by remaining true to our time-tested approach to clinical trial evidence and drug evaluation, rather than cutting corners and resorting to appealing yet risky quick fixes. The pandemic will inevitably leave considerable morbidity, mortality, and loss in its wake. Damage to the country’s medication-assessment process — and the public’s respect for it — should not be part of its legacy. More/Source
From the FDA:
FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems. More/Source
I know that you believe the things that Trump says. That is your prerogative. But I encourage you to read both of these peer-reviewed articles.
Never claimed he could.
Why not? Commander and chief can order his military doctor to do anything, like.....say....falsify his medical report to say he is 6'3" to avoid the label of obese.
He can own stock in it/
Yet if he does know, he might alter the facts to support the company his "Mutual Fund" has stock in to increase its value.
There has been absolutely no testing or evidence that hydroxychloroquine has any effect as a prevention to COVID.
That any doctor would prescribe any drug, with that severe of side effects, to a person showing absolutely no sign of COVID, truly is laughable and would probably result in that doctor's loss of license.
You made the claim, now prove your claim or withdraw it. It is not my job to prove, or disprove, YOUR claim. Trying to push it off onto me is a sure sign that your claim is a made up fiction.
The beef is that Trump may be using his position to push an unproven medical treatment because he has a financial stake in it and not for any health reasons.
90,000+ dead, largely due to Trump's completely failed response to this pandemic.
Coronavirus: Fauci says US 'could have saved lives' with earlier action
Fauci: Earlier Action On Coronavirus Would Have Saved Lives
A new investigation reveals Trump ignored experts on Covid-19 for months
That's why the Commander and Chief can order his military doctor to do so.
Remember Trump has a history of having his doctors provide false information.
Have you ever tried looking, before asking these type of questions? Make you look less silly.
Doctor: Trump Dictated Letter Attesting To His 'Extraordinary' Health
A tall tale? Accuracy of Trump's medical report – and new height – questioned
Trudeau's height is 6'2"
Daughters of foot doctor say he diagnosed Trump with bone spurs as 'favor' to Fred Trump
I am betting that "favor" came with a nice little chunk of change.
Proof HERE or HERE
And this was known 4 days ago. Perhaps it is best not to call others foolish until the facts are known, lest the tables are turned?
Please read the memo from Dr. Conley again. One important fact is omitted. Not once does he say he prescribed Hydroxychloroquine for Donald Trump.
OMG you mean he didn't share his patients personal business with you. Yeah I'm sure they are hiding something.
Dr. Conley shared his patient's personal business with the entire world via the aforementioned memo. He described a personal conversation with his patient, and also included his own personal thoughts regarding Hydroxychloroquine. Had he prescribed Hydroxychloroquine for Donald Trump, he would have said so.
Furthermore, I suggest that you visit this HHS.gov website. It discusses HIPAA laws in depth. Most of the laws contained therein do not apply to the President of the United States. When the lives and the welfare of an entire nation is at stake (albeit world), we, as citizens are legally entitled to know the health status of our leaders. 'Status' includes, but isn't limited to, summaries of physical, emotional, and psychological exams, prescribed medication, special diets, etc.
Besides all this, Donald Trump set this up for a wild goose catch with is unsolicited admission of taking hydroxychloroquine during a meeting with the questioners in the Press.
That's funny, I could have sworn you were just whining because he didn't disclose the Presidents medications. Don't you think it would be pretty stupid for our adversaries to know what medications our commander in chief is taking, never mind.
OK - Will THIS do?
Once again, a rightie posted a memo or article, which DOES NOT prove his claim. Thank you Sister Mary for pointing that fact out so quickly.
Not admission, claim. I still do not believe he has/is/will be taking hydroxychloroquine. The letter from his doctor just backs up my belief. The letter looks like other "letters" from Trump's doctors, DICTATED.
Simply put, NO.
A press secretary who lies, less than a minute after she states she will not lie, is not trustworthy. Where is the doctor's statement that he prescribed it? Doctor released a memo about hydroxychloroquine, yet specifically omitted any claim about a prescription.
I respect your right to believe any source you feel you can trust.
Yes. You are right to be suspicious. He lies daily with his morning coffee or "go-to."
So what in your mind does this mean?: "...we concluded the potential benefit from treatment outweighed the relative risks".
So in reaching this conclusion you feel they proceeded no further? Does that make any sense to you? The letter was in response to the question as to whether the treatment had been prescribed. Do you need live footage of the event, or what would put this to rest for you?
You can't obtain hydroxychloroquine without a prescription. The press secretary also made this clear in the statement.
And you can dispense with this "rightie" bullshit. I haven't accused anyone here of being a "leftie" or "TDS sufferer" simply because they wish to interpret the facts in this matter through a different lens. I am completely prepared to admit that I am wrong on whether Trump was prescribed and is taking HC along with a zinc supplement, but the evidence to date indicates that he was/is. If that changes in the coming days then I'll admit I was wrong. Will you if additional information surfaces showing that what he said was true?
Thank you sister. And I respect yours as well.
Which is true, however does nothing to back up Trump's claim that he is taking it. You don't need a doctor's prescription to LIE about taking hydroxychloroquine.
No, if Trump's official doctor stated that Trump was taking it, I'd think the doctor was a quack, but would take at face value that he was taking it.
However the doctor's letter went out of its way to avoid that statement, indicating he was ordered to write a pro hydroxychloroquine letter, but chose to avoid outright lying.
How about "stupid!"
You don't need to say anything. He made a choice for his own health. Let's hope it works for him.
I LOVE what Nancy Pelosi had to say, for his age and weight category, MORBIDLY OBESE, he shouldn't be taking this drug. Nancy shouldn't have gone their but when have tRump or his supporters EVER taken the high road?
It's funny Trevor Noah said 'tRump isn't an asshole for what he puts in his mouth, he's an asshole for what comes out of it . . '
Is this just another distraction, another lie?
Too bad we can't believe one goddamned word coming out of his mouth.
Trump says a lot of things. If this drug makes him feel 'safer', that in itself is worth something, right?
Either he's lying about taking it, or he has the virus.
You've caught him once again/s
let the dumb ass take it by the handful for all I care...
My sentiments exactly
Not really. He is already going around without a face mask, thinking he is blessed by God and he won't get the virus. But, by taking the malaria drug that makes him feel safe only puts him more risk and everyone around him. Just because he hasn't gotten the virus yet does not mean he is totally immune to it and can't get it. And feeling too safe will make him do more stupid stuff that will put more people around him at risk of getting it from him.
He just does not want to cover up his way too handsome face, as that makes women swoon so much that he can grab their p*zzy and do anything he wants to them and they won't refuse him because of his gorgeous face.
Yeahhh....right.....
i used to think, is that even possible, but Trump has proven quite remarkable. Every time you think he's out done himself, and his last horrifically horrible & heinous act, that NO ONE ever thought they would/could ever, see a US President do, he again tops what we didn't think was toppable, and is defended by supporters whose support, is apparently unstoppable. Quite concerning, when their concern is unapparent, as they are child orphans, without either parent. When there is no adults to oversee, there are A Dolts, that will never see.
The US is in trouble.
i used to think, is that even possible, but Trump has proven quite remarkable. Every time you think he's out done himself, and his last horrifically horrible & heinous act, that NO ONE ever thought they would/could ever, see a US President do, he again tops what we didn't think was toppable, and is defended by supporters whose support, is apparently unstoppable. Quite concerning, when their concern is unapparent, as they are child orphans, without either parent. When there is no adults to oversee, there are A Dolts, that will never see.
The US is in trouble
This comment needs to be upped about a million times.
I did my part
Indeed it is, and has been since day one of Trumps tenure as POTUS. And will be even more so as long as he remains in the WH. I think that at this point Trump is both mentally and emotionally drained and ready to hand the reins over to someone else so he can go play at his rallies, where his supporters make him feel like he is doing good.
Having to take responsibility for all that he says and does, even though he denies any part of responsibility, is weighing heavily on him and he finds it hard to pass the blame to someone else anymore even though he tries. The Covid virus has done him under, as he cannot manipulate it as he pleases, and whatever he says or does in regards to it is a direct reflection in him, and he can't stand it that he can't pass his mistakes for the thousands of deaths due to his own lack of taking the virus that had already taken the lives of so many others before it arrived here in the US seriously in the first place. He said it was a joke, a hoax, just the flu, anything to pass to off a being a deadly virus that needed immediate attention.
No s/ intended but----------after all Trump does have spiritual advisor Paula White around the WH. And 'she' did affirm that 'she' saw visions of Jesus walking through fields of flowers with Trump. Again I say, "That is worth something, right?"
This too. Every word or action by Trump is geared only for his base. Is he immune? Apparently so. The 'Stormy Who' episode was weathered perfectly. As was Helsinki. As was the abandonment of the Kurds. As was the abandonment of everything else the man touches.
His Achilles Heel is the money. None of it is his. "I am the king of debt," were words spoken by Trump and those words are the only truthful thing he's ever uttered.
Yeah....I have heard of his 'Spiritual Advisor' and her visions. I have to wonder how many times Trump has ....ehhh....um.....'consulted' with her during her time at the WH. I am sure she has seen more than Jesus walking with Trump while there. And I feel pretty sure that Trump has had no trouble grabbing her.....eh.....um.....Bible ......while she is 'counseling' him on his walks through the fields of flowers with Jesus.
His Bone Spurs are still his way of getting around what he does not want to do, or what he does want to do, and it all involves money. Indeed not his.....but, that of all the people he can bilk and cheat out of theirs, as he has most all of his own creditors.
As you say, his saying "I'm the King of debt" are the truest words he has ever spoken. However, if you were to ask him about them he would lie and deny he ever said them.
What happened to that nutsy cuckoo batshit crazy bitch? I forgot all about that whack job.
She's still there
Yep. As in all things Trump, everything always comes back to 'Stormy Who.'
As Trout said, she is still there. Just another bleached blonde, thrice married christian money hustler.
I wonder if she claims her knee pads as a work related expense when filing taxes.
Married 3 times????
Did the first 2 die? Because we all know what the Bible says about divorce
all bs starts with a false premise... and here it is.
Perhaps a blast of Clorox would be better.
Karen Whitsett would disagree. She’s a democrat from michigan who was deathly ill with covid. She took hydroxychloroquine and credits it with saving her life. Yes, she’s the one that had the nerve to meet with Trump and, gasp, thank him. Thankfully, Michigan dems are censuring her and treating her as if she has the plague. 🙄
I'll take a doctors' word over some tRump supporter.
What a thoughtful gesture. However, I wouldn't mind if Ms. Whitsett posted conclusive details of the study in which she was participating.
I think he should use a combo of Clorox and ammonia as an inhalant.
Does that work better than Lysol?
Would it have been better if she didn’t survive the disease so she couldn’t have lived to say something nice about the President?
give it a shot.... LOL
let us know how that turns out.
I vote enema for that ever expanding sack of shit.
You first
O-M-G...that is hilarious. So straight forward and totally truthful. Thank yo for the best laugh of the day.
Guess you missed this part:
I saw a huge disclaimer on their site when I was trying to buy some Lysol online since I cannot find it in any stores ANYWHERE.
It is as follows:
'Improper use of Disinfectants
Due to recent speculation and social media activity, RB (the makers of Lysol and Dettol) has been asked whether internal administration of disinfectants may be appropriate for investigation or use as a treatment for coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2).
As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route). As with all products, our disinfectant and hygiene products should only be used as intended and in line with usage guidelines. Please read the label and safety information.
We have a responsibility in providing consumers with access to accurate, up-to-date information as advised by leading public health experts. For this and other myth-busting facts, please visit Covid-19facts.com.'
Sure she is!
Where did I say that?
None of your links work.
She kind of looks like Jessica Biel.
Potential adverse effects of hydroxychloroquine include: " Neuropsychiatric effects, such as agitation, confusion, hallucinations and paranoia".
Trump has probably been taking it for years...
Better take it away from all those Malaria and Lupus patients using it.
Why? So people who don't need it like Trump can take it?
Correction to prevent my comment from being wildly misconstrued: So people like Trump who don't need it can take it?
I did not say there was anything wrong with people taking hydroxychloroquine under their doctor's instructions and supervision. Where did you get that? Wow. A fair reading of my comment shows just the opposite. Did you actually read my comment or just go into automatic Trump-defense mode? You certainly are being defensive.
I do not believe for a second that Trump is actually taking hydroxychloroquine. That is nothing but propaganda. Trump speaks, Trump lies.
If you need it, and your doctor prescribes it, you should take it.
The people suffering from malaria and lupus are under the careful care and scrutiny of medical professionals. I am fairly certain that if those patients start exhibiting neurological symptoms, their doctors will either adjust their dosage or take them off of it. You don't know how many malaria and lupus patients have stopped taking that drug for that very reason.
Nah. Some people are just too easy to sack...............
You're repeating what I just said
that depends on the drug. Some doctors may prescribe a heavy duty pain killer and keep close tabs on their patient. Morphine is a fine example. Used in the short term but scrutinized carefully
Not all doctors are created equally. If a doctor is neglecting her patient, then she's not a very doctor, is she and should be used for malpractice
I'm not saying that I do. You're once again not comprehending my meaning and I can't do anything about that. I doubt very many of us on NT know any malaria or lupus patients that have been taken off hydroxychloroquine because of neurological side effects.
If you have something to say to me, don't fucking pussy breath around and just have the balls to say it to me directly.
Was I addressing you? Why no. No I wasn't. But your post does bring something to mind............
I didn't ask a question, you did. That "And you do" at the end of my statement is your question, not mine.
Now let's be done because I tire of you
You were talking around me. Very passive aggressive. [deleted]
Can you not read? I didn't ask a question...you did.
I don't want any more replies from you unless it's an apology
bwah ha ha, we've got targets on us out here because we reamed every socket on these knights fair maiden in HD. none of them have enough fur on their marbles to go in there.
bwahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Do you think she went running for help?
YOU ASKED THE QUESTION!
There was no allusion to anything in any of my comments. I made a statement. You might want to go back to 7th grade English class and learn what an allusion is. To learn the difference between declarative and interrogative statements you might need to go back to second grade.
OK guys I am stepping in now and telling everyone to knock it off with the vague insults.
Get back on topic. This thread is now closed.
LOL
every drug reacts badly with some people.
seen those drug commercials on tv with their laundry list of potential side effects?
disclaimer: may cause headaches, loss of vision, rectal bleeding, and explosive diarrhea.
sellin like hot cakes... LOL
Yes, people can have seriously adverse side effects from various drugs.
Are you suggesting that in addition to his hallucinations and paranoia, Trump's use of hydroxychloroquine is also responsible for his explosive diarrhea of the mouth? Probably true...
Why the hell is Trump taking it? For What? His health? Improvement in his "exotic" looks? What "good things" has he heard that he is taking if for?
This is stupid and incomplete reporting. People who need this drug for their health problems should not have to compete with clowns and jokers to get it. Enter clowns and jokers. . . ..
"Exotic" looks? You've been on a roll lately, my friend
She looks pregnant. And the other photo is either photo shopped or snapped in a way to make him look thinner
his mouth and elaborate comb-over make his body look smaller in proportion
Trump is 6'2" and weighs 243 pounds. His BMI is 31.20. He is, without a doubt, a fat ass.
...and a dumb ass... hell, he's got the entire negative ass spectrum covered...
Ha!!
And I just won the Oscar for Best Actress for the Mary Poppins remake.
Now....if you believe that I gots an Insta Train that will arrive in NYC in less than 2 hours you can buy for less than 2 grand.
Trump wears a girdle.
Once again: Trump stabs science and responsible governance in its heart with his lies, omissions, and stupidity. Speaking of which, where are the enablers right now on this?
Note: In my opinion, Trump supporters who speak up positively about this should 'lead' right along beside Trump taking it!
BTW, Biden are you HEARING THIS STORY?! Got an ad ready this fall?
God forbid he takes it with Zinc after others in the White House working around him have come done with it. He’s about to be 74 years old so it’s a good precaution.
Enablers should support Trump in this. Rally around Trump with zinc and Hydroxychloroquine. Rah! Rah! Rah! Now hear this:
He-Man
Takes
Precautions!
Trump's advanced age, heart trouble, and morbid obesity make him a poor candidate for Hydroxychloroquine. In addition, it is not a preventative.
... his size is all the more reason to increase the dosage
Link, please.
Yeah...your earlier photo of Ms Abrams proves she was pregnant in it
How can you tell? Got some proof on the pregnancy? She has been overweight for many years.
Look at her in the first photo....then the second photo. Either she had a really big lunch in the first photo or she was damn close to having a baby. Her stomach is noticeably flatter (not a lot, but still) in the second one
So what if she is overweight. She's not lying about how healthy she is and saying she's taller or weighs less than she actually does.
You can't possibly know that can you? Please share. Really.
I'm sure that Trump doesn't do any name-calling or insults...../s
Trump -
Only to Nancy who deserves every word /S
That parallel universe is great place for people to avoid reality. LOL
Why do you think that your are making a cogent argument by mocking someone else's physique?
Have you heard her speak about her weight or her health? I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to hearing about that subject
But it's ok if he does it
Oh, c'mon 1st! He's called women all manner of names!
Really tRump NEVER insults ANYONE about their LOOKS OR THEIR WEIGHT. NEVER.
He doubles down on every other stupid thing he does or says so...…….
biden is not the nominee
but we can talk more during the dnc convention
I hear it will be a real schit show :)
If that's what you hear, you should seriously think about scheduling an appointment with your ENT... (Are we aloud to joke on here? Or does this get flagged for taunting?)
If I slurred my speech as badly as he did in some of those clips in front of a cop, they would have administered a breathalyzer test.
Very true.
I literally have tears streaming down my face! What a ding dong! I haven't laughed this hard since the Al Sharpton vs. teleprompter video went viral.
Once it comes time for Trump and Biden to debate, Biden should play that clip when Trump goes on attack.
Joe needs vids to communicate now ?
He's worse than everyone thought.
Although masks are not a perfect preventative for those who wear them, they are much better at preventing the wearer from SPREADING the virus. Since the first two weeks of being infected has no symptoms, and yet a person is still capable of SPREADING the virus during those weeks, even if one thinks they are not infected it is a matter of common courtesy to others to wear a mask when close to others - a courtesy that selfish pigs do not bother with.
“they are much better at preventing the wearer from SPREADING the virus.”
That’s what worries me the most about covid-19 and why i wear a mask whenever i go out in public. For some, covid-19 could be a death sentence and i treat it that way.
You're doing the right thing. And you understand the reason to stay the hell away from those who ignore the guidelines and DON'T bother wearing a mask.
No doctor in his right mind would prescribe an Anti-malarial drug as a "preventative" measure. They would NEVER prescribe a Zpak unless it was a serious infection, usually respiratory in nature. Zinc is something a lot of people take as a vitamin supplement but it can interact with other medications. The letter his doctor released does not confirm this as a fact. There is no fake news, just fake statements from a reckless man pretending to be a leader. Just spouting off nonsense to boost a cronies stock portfolio most likely.
No argument from me!
Doctors know best for their patients.
See bust of Dr. Fauci on pedestal !
So I guess the bleach wasn't working for him?
maybe he should try vaping it...
I suggest an enema
Is anyone surprised by this? Apparently trump loves his pills.
For the record? His pupils under light shouldn't be that big, that's clearly abnormal.
one of many iconic moments in that film. the outtakes are equally hilarious.
I always wondered when Peter Boyle used a Frankenstein costume for a Halloween episode of Everybody Loves Raymond if it was coincidence or a tribute to one of the funniest movies of all time.
Is that a side effect of snorting adderall?
Yes.
Well, let's hope it works for him. I'm sure he will be monitored for side effects. Of course there is probably no way to know for sure if it helps at all when/if he gets sick, but as long as it isn't hurting him, what do we all care? It's his business.
Which is why he announced it on live television. /s
Announced? I guess. It really wasn't much of an announcement. It's not like he set aside time to make it a special announcement. It was more like "oh by the way . . . "
It was just a supporting comment to a conversation where they were already talking about the drug. The context was that a lot of people were taking it with good reason and doing just fine. For example: front line medical workers, and him.
But people are acting like this personal medical decision is some kind of national crisis. To that degree, it's really not anyone's business.
Nothin' but net!!!!!!
Trump's own statement refutes you claim.
From the transcript of the event:
AND he backpedals . . . or is moving the goal posts?
Nope. I still think it's his business and I still don't see why you think you should get to care.
It's still not your business. There's nothing going on here that says you or anyone else should be passing judgment on whether or not he should be taking the drug.
It is my business if our president is lying.. And in this case his lies could kill people. Granted it would kill stupid people, but still. And I guess you don't give a shit if people who actually need this drug for lupus and such can't get it. Smh.
What is being taken out of context?
Which part of it was a lie? That he was taking the meds or that he was doing fine so far? And how would you know?
How?
I would care very much. Is that documented as actually happening? And is it just because of Trump or is it also because doctors all over the world are trying it with their patients? And if it's the case that doctors genuinely want to try the drug, shouldn't they be able to?
Trump WANTED it to everybody's business, he'll do or say anything to deflect.
The only judgments I have made in this thread are of your BS comments.
Hey Kat, how are you doing. I haven't seen you around much.
Fuck Trump, he's no damn good.
Doctor/patient decisions are between doctors and patients
Except the ones that are brought to light in a national news presser.
No matter what Trump says, Trump haters will see the glass as empty (not even half empty and), while those who support our President are able to see the glass as half full.
Not a big fan of comment spamming on my seeds/articles unless I'm the one doing it.
Only half full? Why don't you see it as completely full? I mean, we trmp haters are the complete opposite of you trmp lovers, right?
I see that there are two sides to Trump, the dried shit stain side and the wet shit stained side. Neither are much of a choice for any sane rational American. He is a compulsive liar, has admitted on tape he doesn't "even wait" for consent and just starts kissing women he finds attractive and believes he can grab women by the pussy because he thinks he's a star, is a monumental narcissist and an abject moron. There is no side of Trump that includes "competent human being", he is the very definition of the worst humanity has to offer.
Donald Trump deserved all that. Now then, some enabler will abuse the word, "hater," in a pathetic attempt at shaming, but it won't work. Because Donald Trump is somewhere in the country right this instance insisting somebody else kiss his ASS, disrespecting the recent dead (Trump: 'They were old and near death anyway.'), and deliberately telling liberals what's good for them is to kiss Mitch McConnell's 'shell' on the underside.
I suggest we continue to pour truth into the political wound on Donald Trump's head.
Well, that's one way to back track on a comment....
I think we should embrace the term "trmp hater". I know that's difficult for you, CB, because you're a good man and don't hate anybody. But I figure if they're gonna call us haters we should
Celebrate it!
Enjoy it!
Make T-shirts!
Bumperstickers
And the best of all .................HATS!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes! What I hate is every time I make a gracious attempt to give Trump a chance at a redemption of his humanity and decency, he demonstrates he is unworthy of consideration.
I thought you were gonna say you hate brussels sprouts
I like brussels sprouts (to a point). Little balls of something that tastes, well, green. About the third serving!
If Trump is anything, he's Lima beans.
Aww...C'mon, Sis! I like lima beans!
Can we make him a black -eyed pea or boiled okra?
Either one of those works for me! How about boiled okra with a side of mashed black-eyed peas?
HA! I just got back from a store run looking and asking about my old friend, Black-eye pea! They said tey don't know why they put product on their order list and it does not come in the shipments, these days. Boiled okra? I love it in food—but not by itself. Lima beans, I am 'lean' on and they are on the store shelve I just left right beside garbanza beans, lentil, and black beans -TG!
HA! Ladies, you spot me a chunk of corn bread and its a road-trip for me!
Proof of what? What you got going there, Dennis?
Come visit any time, but the entire cornbreadtomatoesonionscollardgreensoneblackeyedpea(one) happens only on New Years Day. And PS: I have a limited repertoire of edible and/or desirable food-fare. Cornbread happens to be near the top.
I happen to have a pound of Northerns and Pintos in the pantry. Stop on by (You, too, CB) and I will cook those beans for ya (hope you like ham with them) and make you cornbread from the blue and white box (this damyankee don't know nothing about making no cornbread).
I also fry potatoes with my beans. But you might not wanna watch me eat beans and potatoes
My mom used to tell me that they were tiny cabbages. I would never eat them cooked but I did like them raw.
YUMMIES!
I love 'em (until I get to the 3rd helping). (Chuckles.)
Hm mm, pinto beans! I'm gonna bite myself. I can make the cornbread and it's good, and its finished lickety-split!
They used to give my father gas.
Mine too. And I know from experience that this can be hereditary...
You will get no argument on that from me.
He already shows many of the side effects .. paranoia, delusions and such. So how will be able to tell?
Holy crap! There are whole shitload of people here on NT that have the Covid if thats true.
Specifically the delusional issue.
Signs, signs, everywhere signs ...
Breakin up the scenery breakin my mind ...
Whine this, cry that, can't they read the signs
He already shows many of the side effects .. paranoia, delusions and such. So how will be able to tell?
Probably 5 minutes.
And thank you for a seed-appropriate post.
I thought you were a fan of Eddie Haskell. Pardon Moi.
I met Ken once. He was a nice and caring guy and so opposite of Eddie Haskell.
Sister I want to congratulate you on the success of this article, which has led many Trump supporters to reveal their true colors.
Red, white, and blue! 🇺🇸
with a soul as black as tar
President Donald Trump said Monday that he is taking a malaria drug to protect against the new coronavirus, despite warnings from his own government that it should only be administered for COVID-19 in a hospital or research setting due to potentially fatal side effects.
Narcissistic personality disorder.
"Freak"
Symptoms
I ndividuals with narcissistic personality disorder, according to the DSM-5 , exhibit five or more of the following, which are present by early adulthood and across contexts:
I realize some conservatives have been pushed here to stir up, cook up, and direct attention on Trump by hook or crook , because attention of any kind can be capitalized on. Still, I have one question:
That is actually a decent picture of him. It sure beats the perpetual frown he usually has.
It's all "hollywood' and tv "pancake," my dear Paula. It's called being, "posed-out." That is, you keep going until you get the shot you crave!
HA!
Just this morning Trump announced that he has also been taking dihydrogen monoxide despite the facts about this dangerous chemical !
When will this buffoon stop putting lives in danger?
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
He takes the chloroquinine and chases it with the dihydrogen monoxide
Dihydrogen monoxide is water, right?
That would be correct. (-:
There is some weak assed moderation going in this article. Along with some of the typical passive aggressive nonsense from some. Childish.
The echo chamber grows and grows and grows ..........
The sycophantic echo chamber regurgitating this moron Presidents insanity is actually "growing" smaller and smaller, so it's okay, sane Americans won't have to put up with it much longer.
CNN just now reporting about a 96,000-patient study that shows Hydroxychloroquine does indeed increase the risk of death for those patients receiving it.
If his doctor did indeed prescribe this medication for Trump, an immediate investigation is warranted. On the other hand, Trump hasn't thrown anyone under the bus in the last five minutes I hope Dr. What'sHisNuts didn't have Memorial Day plans.
And no, I don't believe for one instant that Trump's doctor prescribed Hydroxychloroquine for him, nor do I believe he is/has/was taking it. Trump is having to dig deep into the trash bin for distractions, and this is the best he can do.
no wonder the WH Doc prescribed it
Dr. Deep State?
maybe for most of US Citizens,
Dr. FeelGood
I think Trump should visit Russia and stay there.
hopefully he takes a few supporters from round hear with him