Coronavirus testing: Anthony Fauci says task force 'seriously considering' new strategy
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Via: it-is-me • 5 years ago • 125 commentsBy: By Jim Acosta and Sam Fossum, CNN
Here's how CNN reports !
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, said Friday that the White House coronavirus task force is "seriously considering" pool testing for Covid-19 and acknowledged to The Washington Post that the Trump administration's current testing strategy has proven inadequate.
Although President Donald Trump has repeatedly downplayed the need for increased testing -- and suggested last week that he asked for testing to be slowed down -- the nation is experiencing a surge in confirmed cases, demonstrating the nation's inability thus far to get a grip on the spiraling pandemic.
Fauci first mentioned the discussions in an interview with The Washington Post published on Friday morning.
"Something's not working," Fauci said of the nation's current approach in an interview with The Post. "I mean, you can do all the diagramming you want, but something is not working."
The way "pool testing" works is by mixing together several samples together into a "batch," or pool, and then test the pooled sample with one diagnostic test. This way you can test a group of, for example, 25 people with one test rather than 25 separate diagnostic tests. If the test comes back negative, then you have eliminated 25 people with one test. If you get a positive result, you go back and test people individually.
"What you need to do is find the penetration of infected people in your society," Fauci told The Washington Post. "And the only way you know that is by casting a broad net."
Fauci also told the Post that the high levels of asymptomatic spread of the coronavirus are forcing health experts to rethink how to approach mitigating the spread of Covid-19.
"We now know the level of virus in an asymptomatic person is about the same as the level of virus in somebody who has symptoms," Fauci said. "So it's like, oh my goodness, how do you address that?"
First of all...…. WTF ?
Second …… Isn't Dr. Fauci the Trump administration ?
third ……. Isn't Dr. Fauci the one that started this entire thing off, telling us "Nothing to worry about, he would do the worrying for us" ?
fourth ……. WTF ?……. Again !
It's President Trumps Fault !
First of all...…. WTF ?
...........................You can say that again!
Second …… Isn't Dr. Fauci the Trump administration ?
...........................He is simply an adviser, no actual power of his own.
third ……. Isn't Dr. Fauci the one that started this entire thing off, telling us "Nothing to worry about, he would do the worrying for us" ?
...........................•Former White House advisor Steven Bannon says Anthony Fauci, director of the Centers for Control and Prevention, said ...........................Americans shouldn't "worry" about corona-19.
...........................•In late January, Fauci twice said the country shouldn't fret.
...........................•But both times, he added that the situation could change.
........................... Did Fauci tell U.S. 'not to worry about' coronavirus?
fourth ……. WTF ?……. Again !
...........................You can say that again!...AGAIN!!
Trump repeatedly refused to take advise from his various experts about this pandemic, refused to take any meaningful actions on this pandemic, and even undercut many recommendations for dealing with this pandemic.
So yes, that Coronavirus is still growing and killing more and more Americans IS TRUMPS FAULT!!!
Really….which ones ?
Joe did say Trump was being a xenophobe for trying to stop travel to this country.
Is that one of them ?
Maybe When Dr. Fauci said "Nothing to Worry about", and Trump didn't shut things down right then and there ?
That One ?
Maybe for not stopping the likes of Cuomo, from depositing Virus laden folks in "Elder Homes" ?
That ?
Maybe because Trump didn't grab State leaders by the ear and make them run their State like they were hired to do ?
Could Be ?
Maybe it was when he said Kung Flu", that really messed things up ?
Maybe ?
Just a few !
Sure....that caused ALL the problems.
Who knew "The Team" hadn't already been trying to find a cure for something not one damned expert knew about.
Dr. Fauci has changed his mind again..... Now What ?
You didn't read the "Obama color by numbers Questionnaire" your touting, did you !
Decisions where and still are made at the state level. You do know that Governors run the states?
Even if that were true (and we know it's not true because both Drs. Fauci and Birx have repeatedly said that Trump sought out and followed their advice), it's evident that wouldn't have done much. Because after months of sickness, study, and analysis, all our resident "expert" has to offer is: "something's not working." So what makes you think taking his advice however many months ago would have accomplished anything?
Would you care to provide a picture of Trump wearing a mask while out in public???
You know I provided quotes, and a link to what Fauci actually said, continuing to claim otherwise just makes you look foolish.
You understand that the federal government has job when there is a national emergency....right? That job is NOT to pass the buck.
Show me a picture of Trump wearing a mask. Show me a picture of Trump social distancing.
iitts truly not funny
Interesting picture you chose. The disease expert in the photo is doing neither of those things. Looks like Trump is listening to scientists again.
But anyway:
Coronavirus: Donald Trump seen wearing a face mask on visit to Ford plant in Michigan
He posed for the picture, then took it off for the actual tour of the plant. And yes, here is the video as evidence.
Trump Goes Without Mask For Public Tour of Michigan Factory, Says He ‘Didn’t Want to Give the Press the Pleasure’ of Seeing Him Wearing One
Do I care? No. You asked for a picture of Trump in a mask and you got it. But rather than accept it [[deleted]] you want to say it doesn't count. By the way, I never claimed Trump wore masks. Apropos of absolutely nothing, you demanded the picture. Just for grins, I gave it to you. You're welcome.
Meanwhile, you still haven't been able to support your bogus claim that Trump refuses to take advice from experts. In fact, I can direct you to evidence - from the scientists themselves - that he actually does take their advice.
See @3.2.6
Will you face these facts and change your opinion? Unlikely!
I loved Brad Pitt as Fauci on an SNL cold opening. It was perfect.
WHEN?
You are correct, I asked for a simple, basic, picture of trump wearing a mask. If I'd remember him posing for this photo I would have specified, in a public place, but I didn't so congratulations.
Your evidence consists of "Fauci says". I want to see action that he is listening and following, not hearsay from an employee in fear of his job.
No-- here's merely one of several advisors. Trump has the great power of the presidency-- Fauci does not.
(I'm wonder why so many people don't know that....
???)
One of two or three that we always see at the podium ?
Of course, that "One", testified that Trump NEVER told him to slow down, like the Media tell's you Trump did.
What makes you think Fox News is not media?
"Opinion Shows"...… ALL
But I suppose.....the others are just "News" ?
like the Media tell's you Trump did
What makes you think Fox News is not media?
You missed the word " Testified " in my comment ?
Of course....the Media NEVER said Trump told Dr. Fauci to slow down...….
That's right. He didn't tell Fauci to slow down testing.
The other ones are Standup Walter Cronkite types.
Why is it some people only post partial stories.............rhetorical
13 sites is 5 states. That'll make a HUGE impact........./s
Since Fauci has nothing to do with the testing process, why would he have told him this anyway?
As Houston runs out of ICU rooms and Children's Hospital in Harris County starts to admit Adults with COVID.
Bad timing at best and an Administration that must be blind to the political optics.
Why don't we just try to kill healthcare for 16 million people and bring the separated children on the border back into the news?
My bad, nevermind.../s
Fauci was the #1 health advisor and the President took all of Dr Stragelove's advice, including shutting down the economy for that "peak two week - which morphed into two fuckin months period. This BS of blaming the President is no surprise. We all knew the left was going to do it.
Yes-- I totally agree!
After all,, as many people have pointed out, President Trump repeatedly refused to take advise from his various experts about this pandemic, refused to take any meaningful actions on this pandemic, and even undercut many recommendations for dealing with this pandemic.(Not the least of which is refusing to wear a mask himself...which sends a clear message!
Wonder what would have happened if Trump "Took Over" every States leadership roles ?
"refused to take any meaningful actions on this pandemic"
Like Stopping Travel into this country.
That "Try" went well....didn't it ? The Not on our watch Leaders were just wonderful !
At least Dr. Fauci noted.....2 months later.....it was time to really wear masks. Great Timing.
"Wearing masks 3 months in to a pandemic is like handing out condoms at a baby shower."
According to CDC data , 31.28 million tests have been performed and 2.95 million of those tests were positive. That means 9 pct of the tests provided useful information.
From those results we could expect that testing all 320 million people in the United States would result in 28.8 positive results. And a negative result does not mean the tested individual has not been infected or won't become infected. The test only indicates when an individual can actively spread the virus. Those who test negative would need to be retested on a regular schedule until they become infected.
We are wasting a lot of resources and creating a lot of biohazard waste to obtain information of questionable value. Since the test cannot differentiate between those who been infected and those who have not been infected, at this point in the pandemic the test results aren't really providing an indication of risk within the population.
It's the wrong type of test for the current stage of the pandemic. The pandemic has progressed too far at this point to limit further spread of the virus through testing and contact tracing. Environmental testing (primarily air sampling) may be more useful at this point in progression of the pandemic.
I wonder why we don't here about those that test "Negative" for the virus. How many of those types are there ?
Does it matter ?
It just means that they don't have it at the time of that test. Nothing more.
They can turn up positive later in days or months from now.
I know. Last week we had one day here where there were 1,300 "new cases"...............out of 20,000 tests conducted.
It actually does.
Gotta keep the electorate hunkered down ?
Compared to "Population" in this country...… 2,494,579+ or - that they say have the virus, ain't huge on the percentage scale.
Spread that count in a 3.8 Million square mile land mass (America), and it would be just as hard to find them, as it is trying to find Waldo.
Not my idea.
New guesstimate is that 20 million have already had the virus with or without minimum symptoms.
Found 4 more in my bride's downtown office high rise this week- just checking them in the lobby for fever.
- her firm sent everyone back to working from home for two more weeks.
According to the CDC data, 91 pct of those being tested are negative. Of course, we don't know how many of those testing positive were tested more than once.
The number of tests performed doesn't correspond to the number of people that have been tested because of the need for repeated testing. That's why complaints about shortage of testing persist. That's also why reporting the number of negative results would be meaningless.
We've had the same thing going on here. no one has died that we know.
My Family thinks some of us had it back in the last week of November (Based on what they said Symptoms are supposed to be). Some members were out sick for almost 2 weeks. Everyone was better by Christmas.
Unless they Tested 20 million, Another Killer, the Flu, was going on at the same time also.
Or even sooner than tha...
Its even possible you could go to get tested (when you don't have the virus), then immediately go shopping in a supermarket-- and get the virus!
I should have put a comma after later, lol.
According to CDC data , 31.28 million tests have been performed and 2.95 million of those tests were positive. That means 9 pct of the tests provided useful information.
Assuming the tests were accurate. (Which, after listening to Trump downplaying the the tests, leads me to believe they aren't all that reliable).
In addition while I'm not questioning Trump's medical expertise , I hav eheard him severely criticizing the CDC on several occasions.. So I'm not sure I'd trust their data :
According to CDC data , 31.28 million tests have been performed and 2.95 million of those tests were positive. That means 9 pct of the tests provided useful information.
IIRC its still to early to generalize as different localities have been using different tests!
In fact the administration said that some tests were received from China (the home of the so-called "Kung-Fu" Virus!) So it should be no surprise that, as President Trump has mentioned, those tests turned out to be of poor quality and the results were misleading..to say the least!!!
From those results we could expect that testing all 320 million people in the United States would result in 28.8 positive results
Or zero results-- or 20,000, given all the false assumptions that people are making (as I have pointed out, see my previous comments)..
The fact is-- as dr. fauci has mentioned on numerous occasions--there's a lot we still don't know about the virus.
Boy! This is really the kind of thing that inspires confidence, isn't it? And we're supposed to gleefully worship everything that comes out of the mouths of these people. Write laws. Set policy. Radically alter lifestyles. All based on "something's not working." That's deep.
Well.....he is a "God" with the Hate Trump Movement. I wonder how many times he and the others can change their mind, before questioning by "Those" members actually start.
Maybe NEVER ?
WTF??? If that's the case-- why does Trump keep him on?
Do you know how hard it is to get rid of an entrenched Federal bureaucrat???? Fauci is such a bureaucrat. I doubt that he's actually seen a patient in the last 50 years.
What makes you think so? Could it be because he agrees with the "thoughts" (emotions) of those who hate Trump above everything else, including the health and safety of the nation?
Add this to his list of titles - HE SCREWED UP BIG TIME!
Well at least he's honest!
I'd rather hear the truth than the endless lies from brain-dead politicians that keep reassuring us that everything's fine, we have it under control, ...or even those morons who early on assured its the virus is all a big hoax..its"The Common Cold"!
Its the flu. All this talk of the Corona Virus being all that deadly doesn't reflect reality!
Oh listen, I have no problem with the man or his honesty.
I have a problem with media and politicians (and commenters) who treat every word that comes out of his mouth as obvious gospel truth as if they themselves are in a position to judge.
I have a problem with those same people treating others as dangerous heretics for even questioning either his words or whether the policies based on those words might be the best course of action.
I have a problem with people who try to score political points every time it seems like Trump or anyone else might not be in lock step with the good doctor word for word. This is the main reason partisans on the Left worship him.
And I also have a problem with people who just straight up lie and declare that Trump has been ignoring all advice from this guy because that is definitely not true. Fauci has said so, and so has Birx. But those are words from the good doctors that some people just refuse to hear.
Well, there are a lot of stupid people on both sides of the aisle.
But I'm wondering why you don't seem to have a problem with Trump's persistent lying?
(Well, its possible I am wrong about that . . . ?)
I'll wait for the book by Fauci and /or Birx. They are really in bad position to say anything right now
and obviously they aren't ready to retire, just waiting out the storm.
If you believe that, you are ignorant of the facts.
Fauci says Trump listened to his advice about coronavirus mitigation
Fauci says Trump 'got it right away' on data that suggested need to extend social distancing guidelines
Fauci: Trump ‘Does Listen’ To Him And White House Coronavirus Advisors
I think it's ridiculous to try to have it both ways like this. You can't cite disagreements or conflict between the Drs and the president and simultaneously claim they are afraid to say what they really think.
Sure I can. Had a fair amount of jobs and bosses and knew instinctively how "honest" I could be
without getting fired for what I really wanted to say.
How many IG's and US Atty's have been fired for either speaking their mind or investigating the POTUS's "acquaintances"?
How many times have Birx and Fauci contradicted the President recently? Even as the President is saying he ordered less testing, the task force was interviewed as a group to confirm that there was no such order.
They would rather be fired as a group than individually?
I have evidence supporting my opinion. Get back to me when you have more than your conspiracy theory.
Then you have a pretty active imagination. Is this article about Trump? No. Were we talking about Trump's honesty? No. Did I say anything about it? No.
So you just decided to come after me with same made up stuff. I'd ask why, but it's not justifiable, so don't bother. Deflection attempt, I would guess.
They are not the only ones who sent reports to him - CDC and intelligence officials did as well, in JANUARY, but what the hell, who cared about them, eh?
virus -crisis-early...
https://www. washingtonpost .com/national-security/us-intelligence- reports -from- january ...
https://www. axios .com/ trump -corona virus -warnings-46ea8006-2e19-4810-82c1-0f10f4f9aa97.html
Apparently Trump did, which is probably why he restricted travel from China by the end of the month.
Your typical reaction to inconvenient facts. How unsurprising.
He restricted travel from China? That's it for January, and what about February, and into March? Oh, but I understand your point, because he said the virus would disappear, like magic so why bother doing anything else?. Closing the borders was always his big wish anyway.
Yes you have. In @3.2.6. But you didn't look? BIG surprise!
This attempt to crucify Trump for the virus is partisan, ignorant, and pathetic.
You guys claim he ignored all scientific advice. So then what happens? I show you that the scientists say the exact opposite and you ignore it.
Then you move the goalposts so that you claim he was specifically ignoring the scientists in January. So what happens? I show you you're wrong about that, too.
Now you want to move the goalposts and again and say it wasn't enough. This game is bullshit. You guys claim to care about things like facts and reason, but you don't. You ignore or disregard facts that don't support your anti-Trump fantasies and you dismiss the words of the scientists when they don't conform to your conspiracy theories. Like I said: Pathetic!
Take your hands off from over your eyes. [deleted] I don't know why you won't ever follow links to the proof you demand, [deleted]
Articles from March and April are evidence?
How about now, today, this minute while there are no ICU rooms available in Huston?
How about yesterday when Pence tried to gaslight the country telling us that the curve is flattened?
Could you tell if either Birx or Fauci were awake at that presser?
They certainly aren't speaking much now are they?
Get back to me when you stop trying to justify every damned thing this Administration does
with every conceivable theory you can come up with to defend this Administration from justifiable criticism
and stop twisting your self into an unidentifiable pretzel while doing so.
Comments 3.2.24 through 3.2.29 removed for no value.
When the question is whether or not Trump has ignored "all advice" from scientists, yes. You bet your ass it's evidence.
I haven't done that. I wouldn't do that. It was a simple question of the facts supporting the accusation that Trump has ignored "all advice from experts." That is factually not true. Period.
No "theories." Just the facts. Meanwhile, lies and exaggerations are not "justifiable criticism."
Well it does seem a bit odd that way people in Trump's base worship him...beleive every word he says.
Why?
Krish, after all this time, you still don't get it, do you? Many, maybe most, of us don't even like Donald Trump. Socially and regarding honesty, we consider him to be at the level of a used car salesman. However, as much as we don't like Trump, we totally DESPISE his opponents who, on the same scale, sit about three steps below the level of a pimp; and, yes, Joe Biden is right at the head of that group. They are professional politicians who can never be allowed to have power again.
It makes total sense, if you use thought rather than emotion to make decisions. For many years now, most of us have had to accept that we will never be able to vote FOR a candidate of whom we approve, since we approve of none of them. We must, therefore, vote AGAINST the candidate or party that we dislike the most. In the last election, we didn't particularly like Trump but we despised Clinton and all of her Leftist minions. In this election, the cast of characters hasn't changed much.
Whether anyone likes or dislikes Trump makes little difference to the fact that he TOTALLY FUCKED UP DEALING WITH THE VIRUS. What kind of an example has he set by refusing to wear a mask - and that's only one little thing.