Mayor of Portland to Trump: Get your troops out of the city
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Via: jbb • 4 years ago • 308 commentsBy: ANDREW SELSKY and GILLIAN FLACCUS J (AP NEWS)
Trump's Jackboots are not welcome in Portland...
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By ANDREW SELSKY and GILLIAN FLACCUSJuly 18, 2020 GMT1 of 8 Police stand as protesters gather during a demonstration, Thursday, July 16, 2020 in Portland, Ore. Federal officers deployed tear gas and fired less-lethal rounds into a crowd of protesters late Thursday. The actions came just hours after the head of the Department of Homeland Security called the protesters "violent anarchists." (Beth Nakamura/The Oregonian via AP) 1 of 8 Police stand as protesters gather during a demonstration, Thursday, July 16, 2020 in Portland, Ore. Federal officers deployed tear gas and fired less-lethal rounds into a crowd of protesters late Thursday. The actions came just hours after the head of the Department of Homeland Security called the protesters "violent anarchists." (Beth Nakamura/The Oregonian via AP)
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — The mayor of Portland demanded Friday that President Donald Trump remove militarized federal agents he deployed to the city after some detained people on streets far from federal property they were sent to protect.
"Keep your troops in your own buildings, or have them leave our city," Mayor Ted Wheeler said at a news conference.
Democratic Gov. Kate Brown said Trump is looking for a confrontation in the hopes of winning political points elsewhere. It also serves as a distraction from the coronavirus pandemic, which is causing spiking numbers of infections in Oregon and the nation.
Brown's spokesman, Charles Boyle, said Friday that arresting people without probable cause is "extraordinarily concerning and a violation of their civil liberties and constitutional rights."
Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum said she would file a lawsuit in federal court against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the Marshals Service, Customs and Border Protection and Federal Protection Service alleging they have violated the civil rights of Oregonians by detaining them without probable cause. She will also seek a temporary restraining order against them.
The ACLU of Oregon said the federal agents appear to be violating people's rights, which "should concern everyone in the United States."
"Usually when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street we call it kidnapping," said Jann Carson, interim executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Oregon. "The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered."
Federal officers have charged at least 13 people with crimes related to the protests so far, Oregon Public Broadcasting reported Thursday. Some have been detained by the federal courthouse, which has been the scene of protests. But others were grabbed blocks away.
"This is part of the core media strategy out of Trump's White House: to use federal troops to bolster his sagging polling data," Wheeler said. "And it is an absolute abuse of federal law enforcement officials."
One video showed two people in helmets and green camouflage with "police" patches grabbing a person on the sidewalk, handcuffing them and taking them into an unmarked vehicle.
"Who are you?" someone asks the pair, who do not respond. At least some of the federal officers belong to the Department of Homeland Security.
Customs and Border Protection said in a statement that its agents had information indicating the person in the video was suspected of assaulting federal agents or destroying federal property.
"Once CBP agents approached the suspect, a large and violent mob moved towards their location. For everyone's safety, CBP agents quickly moved the suspect to a safer location," the agency said. However, the video shows no mob.
In another case, Mark Pettibone, 29, said a minivan rolled up to him around 2 a.m. Wednesday and four or five people got out "looking like they were deployed to a Middle Eastern war."
Pettibone told The Associated Press he got to his knees as the group approached. They dragged him into the van without identifying themselves or responding to his questions and pulled his beanie over his eyes so he couldn't see, he said.
"I figured I was just going to disappear for an indefinite amount of time," Pettibone said.
Pettibone said he was put into a cell and officers dumped the contents of his backpack, with one remarking: "Oh, this is a bunch of nothing."
After he asked for a lawyer, Pettibone was allowed to leave.
"Authoritarian governments, not democratic republics, send unmarked authorities after protesters," Democratic U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley said in a tweet.
U.S. Attorney Billy Williams in Portland said Friday he has requested the Department of Homeland Security Office of the Inspector General to investigate the actions of DHS personnel.
In a letter Friday, Oregon's two senators and two of its House members demanded that U.S. Attorney General William Barr and Homeland Security Acting Secretary Chad Wolf immediately withdraw "these federal paramilitary forces from our state."
The members of Congress also said they'll be asking the DHS inspector general and the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate the presence and actions of federal forces in Portland.
"It's painfully clear this administration is focused purely on escalating violence without answering my repeated requests for why this expeditionary force is in Portland and under what constitutional authority," Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden said.
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On Thursday night, federal officers deployed tear gas and fired non-lethal rounds into a crowd of protesters.
Wolf visited Portland on Thursday and called the demonstrators, who are protesting racism and police brutality, "violent anarchists."
Wolf blamed state and city authorities for not putting an end to the protests. But Portland police said Friday they wound up arresting 20 people overnight.
At least two protests occurred Thursday night, one near the federal courthouse and the other by a police station in another part of the city. Police told protesters to leave that site after announcing they heard some chanting about burning down the building. Protester Paul Frazier said Friday the chant was "much more rhetorical than an actual statement."
Portland Police Chief Chuck Lovell told reporters Friday that his officers are in contact with the federal agents, but that neither controls the others' actions.
"We do communicate with federal officers for the purpose of situational awareness and deconfliction," Lovell said. "We're operating in a very, very close proximity to one another."
The American Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Oregon on Friday added the federal government to a lawsuit it filed earlier to halt the use of crowd control measures, including tear gas and rubber bullets, against journalists and legal observers at protests in Portland.
"The lawsuit is one of many the ACLU will be filing against federal authorities in Portland for their unconstitutional attacks on people protesting the police killing of George Floyd," the group said.
Tensions have escalated in the past two weeks, particularly after an officer with the U.S. Marshals Service fired a less-lethal round at a protester's head on July 11, critically injuring him.
The protests following the police killing of Floyd in Minneapolis have often devolved into violent clashes between smaller groups and the police.
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This version corrects that the governor did not say the deployment serves as a distraction, and that chanting about burning happened at police station, not federal courthouse.
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Selsky reported from Salem, Oregon. AP reporters Ben Fox in Washington and Jake Bleiberg in Dallas contributed.
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What does Trump expect? A parade? A statue?
How about a swift kick in the ass?
To the protestors doing looting and vandalism you bet. Use whatever force needed to stand those people down and arrest the perpetrators. Watching federal law enforcement deal firmly with those people and hauling them off to a detention facility is a beautiful sight! Keep up the good work.
How long do you think a statue of Trump would last without 24/7/365 protection?
Haven't you heard? Statues and monuments are a thing of the past.
Well, his star on the walk of fame has been vandalized several times. To think that a 3 x 3 piece of concrete can trigger libs so badly.
yes, even seeing his name is enough to trigger some of the snowflakes
The answer is ORDER!
Eisenhower did it, JFK did it and Trump must do it. The timing is right - people are fed up with the violence - they got a good taste - now arrest & prosecute the revolutionaries.
Yes, I've already said that America seems to be undergoing a kind of cultural revolution, but IMO it seems to be one seeking justice. Makes me think of the saying "Justice, justice shall you pursue."
I'm with you on not agreeing with the violence - I just wish people would feel the same way about that happening elsewhere as well as in their own back yard.
A revolution of lily white radicals, who have had the ideology of America's far left drummed into their lackadaisical brains by our progressive educators.
Well, at least you've admitted that it's a revolution.
I don't think its a revolution , its more like a tonne of anarchists, and useful idiots that were born some time in the ninetys and aughts , that always got participation trophies and told they could change the world simply by showing up. and never got their asses whacked and had to do the switch dance .
My reasoning for this is all the discord is taking places in very safe enviroments where the authorities are pretty much hamstrung or on their side to try and SPARK an actual revolution. .
if they decided to take this act on the road , they would meet with an end that well the nicest thing to say would it would make the trail of tears and the sand creek massacre look like a pick nick in Piccadilly circus.
And I say that because once it started and resistance to their actions came to bear from John Q public, even the authorities wouldn't be able to stop it even if they wanted too.
Spot on
If he’d established law and order and protected federal buildings and monuments in the city, Trump would not have had to send in federal law enforcement to do their jobs for them.
That is what all military despots say...
Those little dweebs are going to real popular in lockup.
Very tender fresh meat for bubba and the bull dykes.
Because only despots expect there to be law and order in the community that they live in....
So anybody who protests against injustice these days is Antifa? How nice it must be for far right wingers to have a built in scapegoat.
Unfortunately they have already started to drop the charges on the arrested rioters including those with be felony charges (at least 59 that I know of,there may be more). If they were conservative demonstrators that were arrested they all would have had the book thrown at them
So your posit is that Trump's orders to the US Marshals is to drop charges against liberal demonstrators?
Where did you get THAT nonsense from?
he was talking about the charges dropped against the "protesters" by the county district attorney's office.
Where did YOU get that nonsense from? He sure as hell didn't say THAT.
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where did I get it from? I keep up with the news, and know how to Google.
Try it sometime!
Have they completely given up supporting the Constitution now? Even their usual lip service support?
Trump is following orders from his boss Putin in how to establish a dictatorship. Trump idolizes Putin. Putin hates America. Where does that leave you?
Get a new one. That one is getting old and boring and is very unoriginal.
Leaves us here in the real America, where we don't have dictators and don't get our panties in a wad over imaginary shit.
You can't face reality.
Your hero is a proto-dictator. You know full well he idolizes Putin. You think Putin is our friend? Did you read the book I keep telling you about? "The Road to Unfreedom" by Timothy Snyder. Learn something. Fast.
At least your comments are entertaining.
Thanks!
You're the one living lala land!
Said mayor and governor are probably highly ticked off that President Trump sent in the feds to do the the jobs they have been unable or unwilling to do to reign in the rioting and looting in Portland and it is making them look bad to their constitute base.
How many times during the flawed and failed impeachment fiasco did we hear liberals saying “no one is above the law”? Apparently that was a lie. They think these twerps should be able to deface and destroy property with no consequence.
You obviously did not read the Mueller report. Trump is guilty as sin.
The day Trump is no longer president there will be many jurisdictions beating down his door with warrants in their hands.
Trump will be in court and/or in prison for the rest of his life.
I seriously doubt that president Biden will pardon citizen Trump.
Lol, sure thing, bud.
What did Mueller actually say? Can your give us some of the good parts?
Once Trump finishes his second term, the left will lose all interest in him.
I guess that is why he was convicted din his impeachment.
OH! WAIT! He wasn't! Oops for you!
"President" Joe Biden is going to be in the same category as "president" Hillary Clinton. An also ran wannabe.
Just another progressive asshat mayor.
Control your city and this wouldn’t be required you nimrod.
Will the last reasonable citizen or business please turn out the lights when you leave that shithole. Hate to waste power in greenville .....
Figures a Democrat upset with Trump for establishing law and order in a shithole city.
Funny, many on the left thought the federal agents were righteous when they assassinated Lavoy Finicum in Oregon.
The hypocrisy coming from the left is now running like a river
Only when you don't know what kidnapping is.
What a silly talking point. And I keep seeing it, so clearly a memo went out.
Federal officers typically don't cruise around in black and white police cruisers. Their vehicles are usually unmarked. Woooooooo! "unmarked vehicle!" Spooooooky. Or it might be spooky except that it's not like these people are missing.
Not to mention that the criminal Antifa mob are much less likely to damage a plain ordinary looking car than a marked police cruiser.
and they are not leaving.... LOL
I'm just wondering who the mayor thinks he is?
He thinks he can order a President or federal employees around?
What a dweeb!
You’re giving him credit for thinking? You’re being way too generous....
They’d be welcomed here if Antifa transported itself here from there or the Bay Area. Of course we’d likely drive them out by any means need be before the feds could arrive to help us.
Amazing, isn't it, the similarities of Federal action between Portland, Oregon, and Hong Kong. Even more amazing is that the same people who citicize how the Hong Kong protests were dealt with are the same ones who praise how the protests in Portland are being dealt with. What's the word that starts with "H" that that makes me think of?
The protests in Hong Kong were peaceful by people desiring to remain free and live in a democratic society.
Do you have any evidence to prove otherwise?
There are dozens of videos online that prove otherwise.
Since vandalism is now considered 'violence'.
BTW, they were throwing molotov cocktails too.
But you probably agree with the loony left media that the asshats destroying democrat cities are "peaceful protestors", even though video shows different.
You deny that I'm telling the truth of what I saw with my own eyes? Dulay saw the news videos as well, and I had thought they were censored in America. The destruction was sickening.
Painting a slogan on a wall or a swastika on a Jewish synagogue is vandalism.. Wanton destruction like the smashing of private and public property is violence. The news videos I saw depicted violence.
No I don't. Assume much?
As someone who lives in a rural area of Indiana, my mailbox is destroyed by baseball bat drive by teenagers almost every year. I've actually witnessed it happen.
I would not characterize that wanton destruction of my personal property as 'violence'.
Then you have an amazingly high tolerance level. Sweet kids in your neighbourhood.
Unlike in the US where they riot because they saw a flag.
Well when they're driving by @ about 30 MPH and then speeding away at 60, it's a little hard to 'correct' them. I was behind a guy who hit my mailbox with a truck and chased him all the way into Michigan. He paid for the mailbox and paid me my "consult" rate [$45 an hour] to replace it.
Is it a fair distance from your home? Got an idea for you. Seal the box so it can't be opened by the mailman, and fill it with explosives. Next time the kids smash it they'll be in for a big surprise.
Somebody could get seriously injured, Buzz. I don't recommend that.
BTW, I agree with Tessy that you're a better man than that other guy
Well, yeah, somebody COULD get seriously injured. Maybe Dulay should hide in the bushes with a gun to shoot the tires of their car instead.
And thank you.
I live on a 55 MPH two lane rural highway about 75' off the road. By time I could jump in my jeep and chase them they could be miles away.
I've had to go into 'town' to pick up my mail many times [most because snow plows killed my mail box but THAT'S another story] and it sucks.
Oh and BTW, I think that it's illegal to put bombs in your mailbox.
That happened a lot when I was growing up in Western PA
I think we're seeing Trump's obsession with dictators come to life. Now he's established his administration's secret police just like putin to intimidate, bully, and control American citizen so they will not oppose him. This is classic authoritarian strategy.
I'm curious where those voices are that demand the federal government stay out of the States and let them govern themselves? Weird how quiet they are and how they've totally changed their minds and are cheering for the federal government to invade States.
I'm just waiting for people to go missing......
You may have a real career in fiction writing.
Let us know how that works out for you.
You mean like thousands of Chinese people have, including many doctors and medical experts who tried to warn the Commie Chinese government of a possible pandemic in the making....
who were immediately silenced and accused of subversive propaganda??
The problem is, is that the state and local governments are not doing their jobs of protecting ordinary citizens, but letting violent mobs rule the streets.
Your comments are so often misinformed and wrong. Try to think of what's good for the American people, not how your Democrat party can gain even more authority and power.
“I'm curious where those voices are that demand the federal government stay out of the States and let them govern themselves?”
let the states govern themselves,,,,,arizona tried that with sb 1070 and liberals had a cow. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Amazing to me what the donald supporters will defend.
I keep thinking there will be some line they would no cross, but no.
Now they actually cheer on the feds picking people up off the street like in some doctoral, communist country.
Now the 'state rights' people are actually saying the feds have ultimate and all control.
They cheer for a centralized government, all because donald says the 'others' are out to destroy everything.
And they believe him, without question.
I guess we could pretend we like people destroying public property and private property in the name of "social justice".
we will always support removing terrorists from our society
It was strategic on the administration's part. They understand their base very well and how easily they are manipulated to think and support a policy where normally they would understand it was an overreach of power. The administration only needed to throw the term "other and X minority" in with their explanation and their followers couldn't get in line quick enough.
True. Just listen to the responses here.
Terrorists, need to be thrown in gitmo, destroying everything in sight...
Unreal. All he has to do is say a few buzzwords and the faithful all join in.
If I were to believe them, the city is in ruins...
Round them all up! Put them in encampments!
Where have we heard that before....
Yes, they talk about getting rid of their political opponents and we talk about helping them by improving our mental health services and offering affordable healthcare and higher education.
People who destroy private and public property, loot, commit arson, etc. belong in jail.
People who destroy private and public property, loot, commit arson, etc. belong in jail
as this thread demonstrates, an entire political movement is now in opposition to that common sense statement.
Yep. I guess some would prefer another Kent State.
Kind of shows who really needsthat money spent on mental health!
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the best part about getting arrested by the feds? there is no get out of jail free card.
Congrats. You follow the donald line to a tee.
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actually, trump is working for me.
you keep thinking we "listen to trump"
fact is.... he listens to us.
Haha Whatever you have to tell yourself.
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are you also including the 7 million obama voters who voted for trump? (rhetorical)
trump will have more minority support in nov than he did in 2016
BTW, thinking in terms of color is racist
7,000,000 Obama voters didn't vote for Trump!
how did I know you would question that? LOL already had the link ready.
About 7 million voters who supported Mr. Obama in 2012 abandoned Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016 and instead voted for Mr. Trump .
“They were looking for change,” Ms. Jarrett said on “Morning Joe” on MSNBC. “I really can’t spend a lot of time looking backward, it’s too painful for me.”
that was just the first 7 million to abandon the left.... time marches on and the trend continues.
maybe the left should burn another city? I mean, that "might help... LOL
And as for the rest:
Bazinga!
That's exactly what tRump is doing . . . . he knows it's the end of the line so he's doing his best to burn it all to the ground.
Funny how his supporters think tRump cares about them! It's freaking hilarious actually.
tRump cares about tRump. NO ONE ELSE.
Just more of that summer of love stuff!
pretty sad stuff.
if the nutjobs weren't actually dangerous, it would be comical!
So the author of your link made shit up and you and your trumbs up buddies believe it.
Obama 2012 - 65,915,795
Clinton 2016 - 65,853,514
That's a difference of 62,281 votes.
Holy shit!!!!!!! What the hell are you whispering in his ear????
You know how our elections work right? The number of voters changes each election. Millions more voted in 2016 than 2012.
Why yes Sean, YES I do.
That wasn't the premise of 8's statement, was it Sean?
8 stated that 7 MILLION Obama [2012] voters voted for Trump [2016]. So how many TOTAL voters for each election is irrelevant but thanks for playing.
Yes and he proved it. You, for some reason that escapes the realm of logic, think comparing the votes counts of the democratic candidates in those two elections somehow disproved it.
you don’t know how numbers or elections work if you think you addressed his point.
How many were eligible but did not vote at all?..................Leaving the possibility that the 7million is plausible.
Yep, it’s common sense. Some Obama voters died. Many voted for Clinton. Some didn’t vote, millions voted for trump. Some voted third party. Some new voters or voters who sat out 2012, voted for Clinton. Some Romney voters voted for Clinton. A similar combination of categories made up the trump vote.
The sum total of all those categories ended up about the same for Democrats as in 2012. That’s all the total vote means. It sheds no light on the number of votes in each category.
How? By linking an article from an author who writes unsubstantiated bullshit?
That sure as hell isn't my idea of proof.
But 8 insists that 7 MILLION Obama voters voted for Trump so AGAIN, 'new voters or voters that sat out 2012' are IRRELVANT.
Face it, 8's statement was bullshit and your defense of it is too.
A higher percentage of those eligible voted in 2016 vs. 2012.
BTFW, 8 didn't predicate his statement as a 'possibility', he sited it as a fact without one iota of evidence. Sean insists that 8 PROVED it without one iota of evidence in support. Now you chime in with 'plausibility', backtracking from both.
So now I've got three guys throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
NONE of it does.
Good thing you've stopped trying to defend your bullshit claim that raw vote totals somehow discredited eight's statement.
Eight provided a source to back his claim. You've done nothing but spin in circles.
Instead of lashing out, why don't you try once more to prove eight and his source wrong? You whiffed once. Maybe you can do better now that it's been explained to you.
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He didn't prove squat, diddly, nada, Zip, zero, zilch . . .
I'm glad somebody thought it was funny
Yep but you fail due to the fact you cannot know, based on your supposition, whom they voted for.
2012 - 57.5% or 126 million Mr. Obama, per your numbers, 65,915,795
2016 - 58.1% or 138 million Mrs. Clinton, per your numbers, 65,853,514
That's 12 million difference and your numbers above, leaves 72,146,486 out of which, Mr. Trump got a little over 62 million which leave us with 10 million +/- and there is a great possibility that the Obama voters MAY have been pissed at Mrs. Clinton and the DNC because of what they did to Bernie. Some jumped ship and went to Indies others out of spite went to Mr. Trump. 2,881,640 voted other parties. That leaves 7,118,360 votes. Again, plausible.
Your comment is hilarious Sean.
8's 'source' quotes Jarrett and then the author makes an unsubstantiated claim. There is NO connection between the two statements other than the fact that they are contained in the same fucking article. Conservative 'journalists' try to pull that bullshit all of the time and all too many, like those here, swill it up. Believe all the bullshit you want, I couldn't care less.
Why don't you try and prove him wrong? Let's see you make an actual argument supported by a source.
I know he's correct and you have no hope of actually proving him wrong but it'll be funny to watch it play out.
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. I'd say prove him wrong, but we both know you can't. I'm sure you've realized by now he's correct so you can either do the honest thing and admit that, or resort to some pathetic ad hominem whining.
Just as I thought.
No attempt at an actual argument.
Yeah, me too. . .
Well gee Jim, then so does 8.
Oh and BTFW, your math is WAY off.
The TOTAL number of votes cast in 2016 was 128,838,342.
The TOTAL number of votes cast in 2012 was 126,849,299.
Now I'm no mathematician but that sure as fuck doesn't look like 12 MILLION difference to ME.
So where the hell did YOU get YOUR '12 MILLION' from Jim?
Oh and the percentages you cited are WRONG too.
Clinton was 48.2% NOT 58.1% per YOUR 2016 link.
Obama's 2012 was 51.1 % NOT 57.5% per that same link.
I thought I had issues with numbers...
I'd say prove him right but we both know that you can't. You said 8 proved it and that you know that he is correct. YOU prove it.
If all any of you have is the bullshit link from 8 and bad math your argument is a FAIL.
Oh and BTFW, I have addressed comments, not the poster.
YOU prove it.
So, yet again, you can't support an argument.
Yet again, I can.
Which has what to do with now?
I'm not following down a rabbit hole and reading a 182 page document that probably doesn't prove a fucking thing about 7 OR 12 million Obama voters. What version, page and paragraph Sean.
In other words your minds made up and no matter what proof and facts anyone shows your false opinion will stay.
Wow, that comment illustrates some hard core projection.
What happens to the people that get thrown into those vans? Are they taken to jail? Are their families informed where they are?
It was all projection by the right a few years ago. They as much as told us what they were going to do.
It's a conspiracy. ( Oh, we need a "scary font" option for conspiracy theories. Bold italic just doesn't cut it.)
Where was I - oh yeah - Conspiracy!!!.
Remember the Walmart concentration camps?
That right.
Oh boy do I remember the Walmart concentration camps....
Vandalizing Federal property is a Federal crime. Making threats against Federal personnel and Federal property is a Federal crime. Instigating insurrection or rebellion, particularly violent insurrection or rebellion, against the Federal government is a Federal crime. And Federal law enforcement has jurisdiction to arrest those suspected of perpetrating a Federal crime wherever those suspects are found.
Portland, OR, and the state of Oregon is under the jurisdiction and authority of the Federal government. That's a consequence of Democrats having lost the first Civil War.
The members of Federal law enforcement shown in the photo are certainly not clandestine and their presence is certainly no secret. And interfering with Federal law enforcement using their authority to enforce Federal laws is a Federal crime.
The Federal government has jurisdiction and the presence of Federal law enforcement is asserting Federal authority.
It's a violation of the US Constitution to arrest someone without probable cause. There needs to be an end to law enforcement shielding themselves with made up bullshit excuses for arresting anyone.
Vandalism is a crime. Federal property has been vandalized; that's an actual crime, not a suspected or probable crime. And law enforcement can detain individuals suspected of committing a crime.
Calling vandalism a 'peaceful protest' does not remove the legal consequences of vandalism. The vandals can also be sued for damages in a civil proceeding.
But in all too many examples of late, they have NO had probable cause and without that, ANY arrest or physical attack is a violation of the Constitution.
The 'officers' who snatched Pettibone off of the street in Portland violated his Constitutional rights.
The 'officers' who beat and pepper sprayed Christopher David, a Navy vet, violated his Constitutional rights.
Both are CRIMES and the Federal government should be sued for damages in civil proceedings.
More peaceful protesting:
Last night they set the Police Union Hall on fire and tried to destroy the federal courthouse.
All good with progressives, of course.
Who said it was all good with progressives?
There are two competing issues within the article.
One does not cancel out the other.
legally arresting criminals and charging them with crimes are not "secret police" tactics.
I've seen almost no pushback from progressive leaders about these violent riots. In Chicago, for instance, 18 cops were injured by these clowns and the Mayor's response was a tweet asking people to report police misconduct.
Nothing secret about it...as has already been repeatedly pointed out to you.
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Secret police tactics?
LMAO!
Where?
LaLa Land?
Okay. You can focus on the weeds and I will focus on the implications nationwide. I also disagree that everything they are doing is "legal". That's why they are being sued.
There used to be a time when republicans and others didn't appreciate feds sticking their noses in State and local issues. Now that the focus is on groups of people that republicans don't respect it seems to have changed their position regarding feds coming into States.
The progressive derangement is reaching a crescendo.
Hopefully voters recognize that and react accordingly in August and November and start giving these wackadoodle progressive politicians their walking papers.
If not, they deserve what they get. Absolutely.
about 1000 people per day have joined the walkaway movement in the past few months
I'm not seeing the left winning the popular vote this nov. not that it matters, but the left seems to care a lot about that... LOL
There used to be a time when Americans didn't like people rioting, burning, and looting.
Now it seems like only some of us don't like it.
more than most imagine...
the left are cutting their collective throats with all the violence
we can expect a nov blowout of epic proportions.
Another clear distinction between you and me. You focus on one party's dysfunctional leaders and I focus on all that would destroy our country.
Leaders who don’t fulfill their oath office, that is to protect ALL their constituents, are the problem that might destroy this country.
Wake up.
Being sued by a state fried not mean something illegal. In this case it means some whiney ass liberal state official and some cry baby liberal groups are supporting the wrong side again.
Who is this "secret police" you keep rambling about?
She also had 100 police guarding her street last night. Police for me, not for thee is the progressive mantra.
I can't tell you. It's a secret.
There is no such thing as the walkaway movement. Authentic as the 'teabaggers', I mean teaparty, LOL!
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When has tRump fulfilled his oath of office, protecting ALL his constituents?
Wake up.
pure imagination.
not anything to do with facts, just fantasy
There is the president's oath of office. Where does it say that?
facts, schmacks!!
good post!
It’s time the President engage in a game of chicken with the mayor. Tell him the federal law enforcement will leave but only after he gets his city under control. Or the mayor can openly side with the Antifa and anarchy rioters and let l his city burn until he hopes Jan . 20 brings a new President. I think imposing law and order will come first.
What’s tRump?
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"we can expect a nov blowout of epic proportions."
Yes indeed, Joe Biden in a landslide!
the 'president'
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joe can't even get 20 people to watch his basement podcast... LOL
As a legal matter, Portland cannot force the federal officers out of Portland or prevent arrests for federal offenses.
An organizer of the protests is calling for the abolition of the United States
and Democrats support her.
It's 1861 all over again.
Who is that?
I read this on the morning USA Today news clip that I get. It's good to get a glimpse into America - makes me wonder how some have the nerve be so critical of other countries.
Oregon AG sues federal agencies over Portland arrests
Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum is suing multiple federal agencies, saying that agents in unmarked vehicles have grabbed people off Portland's streets without a warrant . The lawsuit, filed Friday in Oregon U.S. District Court, says the agents violated the civil rights of Oregon residents using unlawful tactics. Rosenblum's complaint says such tactics could lead a person to reasonably believe they are being kidnapped and that the fear and violence in downtown Portland is driven by federal law enforcement and that tactics need to change. It asks the court to require federal agents to identify themselves and their agency before conducting an arrest and give an explanation to any person being detained for the arrest.
The Democratic chairs of three House committees are calling for the inspectors general for the Justice Department and Department of Homeland Security to investigate the use of force by federal law enforcement officers against anti-police brutality protesters .
To the mayor of Portland; not only no but HELL NO!
My oath when I went in the Navy said I would defend the country from all enemies both foreign and democrat. That oath is still in effect.
Yep, I’m still better dead than red as well..
Never thought the reds would be domestic though.
Portland ..... welcome to shitholedom.
Detroit and Seattle welcome you.
You've turned JBB's seed into a shithole.
Good job tRumpers!
Nah! It started out that way
the poor little terrorists can't catch a break... LOL
Bottom line still is that no matter how long the protestors riot there, the federal law enforcement will be there as long at least until Jan 20, 2021 as long as the riots persist.
the feds are not leaving at all. - full stop
True enough! Trump is going to win re election so if need be they can stay forever as long as the looting, assaults, arson, vandalism, and rioting continue come what may! Let them burn their city to the ground and the federal law enforcement will remain protecting the federal buildings
There is one demand the protesters made that I can support. They demand that Ted Wheeler's Portland's mayor resignation. I can get behind that. Joann Hardesty, the biggest racist city commissioner and go also.
Well said and right on!