Tucker: ‘Probably Illegal’ for Biden to Only Consider a Black Woman VP

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  2 months ago  •  168 comments

By:   Justin Baragona, The Daily Beast

Tucker: ‘Probably Illegal’ for Biden to Only Consider a Black Woman VP

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Tucker: ‘Probably Illegal’ for Biden to Only Consider a Black Woman VP





Justin Baragona


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Fox News star   Tucker Carlson —currently   facing outrage from network colleagues over his racist rhetoric —upped the ante on Monday night, claiming it was “probably illegal” for presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden to prioritize Black women in his running-mate search, while calling those candidates unqualified.

Carlson, whose former head writer was   recently outed as an outspoken racist , kicked off Monday night’s broadcast of his hit primetime show by singling out the women of color whom Biden is reportedly considering as the vice-presidential nominee.

“We’ve taken a closer look at three potential candidates. All of them are said to be on Joe Biden’s shortlist for the job,” Carlson declared, referencing   a previous inflammatory segment . “They are Stacey Abrams, Karen Bass, and Kamala Harris. Now, in a normal year, no mainstream candidate would consider any of these people. All of them would be disqualified without debate.”

The far-right Fox host first described   Rep. Bass   (D-CA) as a “lunatic Fidel Castro acolyte” and an armed revolutionary, referring to   her past praise of the Cuban dictator   and work for a young leftist group during the 1970s. After calling Abrams, a former Georgia state representative and gubernatorial candidate, “delusional” and accusing her of writing “bad porn novels,” Carlson took aim at Sen. Harris (D-CA).


“Kamala Harris, meanwhile, is so transparently transactional that even Democratic primary voters who have a strong stomach found her repulsive,” he exclaimed. “Pretty much no one who knows Kamala Harris likes her.”


Claiming the three women did not represent a “blue ribbon group,” Carlson then grumbled over the Biden campaign’s apparent prioritization of a woman of color to fill out the ticket.

“For what could very well be the most important job on Earth, Biden has decided to hire exclusively on the basis of qualities that are both immutable and completely irrelevant—race and gender,” Carlson huffed. “And that’s it. But wait a second, you ask, isn’t that insulting? Isn’t it wrong? Isn’t it probably illegal?”

“Yes, it is all three of those things,” he continued. “But no one’s pushing back against it so Biden is doing it.”

Carlson then tore into another Black woman whom Biden is reportedly considering, former National Security Adviser Susan Rice. Describing her remarks in the immediate aftermath of the Benghazi terror attacks as “hateful” and “heinous,” the Fox host accused Rice of committing a “moral crime” by initially blaming the embassy attack on an anti-Islamic video.





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Tessylo
1  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

Tucker: ‘Probably Illegal’ For Biden To Only Consider A Black Woman VP

What the What?

tRumps ass licker Tucker is losing it by the day.  

Just like tRumps supporters, who are dwindling daily.  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Tessylo @1    one month ago

If that is true, then it is equally illegal for Trump to only consider White men for VP.

It works both ways.

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Sean Treacy
1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Raven Wing @1.1    one month ago

NO shit!  

When did Trump say he would only ever consider a white man for the Vice Presidency? He not a racist/sexist like Biden, so good luck showing that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    one month ago

You're calling Joe Biden a racist sexist?  Projection at its' finest.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2  Trout Giggles    2 months ago

Tucker is a fool

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @2    2 months ago

Complete dumbass racist fool.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Tessylo @2.1    2 months ago

According to John Oliver, Tucker Carlson is an example of what the word 'thud' would look like if it grew a face. 

Yep.  Laughed my ass off, I did. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.1    one month ago

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I'll be watching that tomorrow night with my dad and his gal pal.  We get together every week for dinner and that's also when we catch up with Trevor Noah.  

Love him and John Oliver!

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.1.3  Raven Wing  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.2    one month ago

I really do miss Jon Stewart. I always loved watching his show. No one can really replace him, just carry on the show.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.4  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Raven Wing @2.1.3    one month ago

I love Jon Stewart and loved his show.  I didn't watch Trevor for months because I felt the same way.  No one can replace him.  Trevor is doing a heck of a job in his own right.  I love him too!!!  

I miss The Colbert report also.  But Stephen has gone on to bigger and better things!  

I saw Jon Stewart a long time ago in Atlantic City.  It was great!  I won some money at the casino beforehand and the drinks were on me.  It was so funny.  I don't know why, but my friend who came to the show with me, yelled out  "Will you bend over?", and Jon said right back "What am I, your puppet?"  It was hilarious.  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.1.5  Raven Wing  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.4    one month ago
I miss The Colbert report also

Colbert indeed had a great show, and I enjoyed his sense of humor. I miss him too, but, very glad that he has found a new calling in a new place. He really deserves it.

 
 
 
Tacos!
3  Tacos!    2 months ago

I agree the candidates considered are all bad choices who would not normally be seriously considered for the job. However, I see nothing wrong with wanting to fill the position with a black woman.

Making the search exclusive to those traits smacks of tokenism. Surely there are capable white women or black men out there as well? Maybe a hispanic? A Native American? There are any number of intersectional boxes that could be checked.

So, it's very limiting, but I don't see why it would be specifically illegal to only consider a black female for the job.

Racist? Sexist? Dumb? Arguably, it's any or all of those things.

But not illegal.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4  Dismayed Patriot    2 months ago

For someone to call these women "unqualified" who is currently shilling for the most unqualified despicable human being on the planet is truly the height of hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

Of course it's racist and sexist.  

If you exclude a race from your search, it's racist.  If this were an actual job selection, rather than an "election" by a political party, it would be illegal.   But since the fiction exists that the Party, and not Biden, will choose the VP nominee, it's probably not a Title VII violation, even though in practice Biden simply selects the running mate. 

The poor woman who gets chosen. It's will be known  she's only the most qualified female person of color, not the most qualified person. 

Of course, if Biden wins, she'll be President within 6 months, so I suppose being President helps with the humiliation of getting a job only because you checked the requisite  diversity boxes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 months ago

Donald Trump's ascension to the office of president of the United States has rendered moot any concern about the "qualifications" of any other candidates , now and possibly into the future as well.

We already have the most unqualified and unfit person in history in the office. We can only go up from here. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    2 months ago

So Donald Trump justifies racism? 

Trump is a red herring when it comes to Biden defining what criteria he's using to select a VP, and when race is  a dominate criteria in making a choice, it's a racist process.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    2 months ago

Yes, let's all vote for the most unfit person in history because we object to a black woman being force fed as vice president. 

Afraid not. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    2 months ago
e for the most unfit person in history because we object to a black woman being force fed as vice president

Trump has nothing to do with the Biden's racist /sexist choice. Trump isn't forcing him to be a racist/sexist.

If the President of your local bank announced that he's going to hire the most qualified non-Asian male to be VP, would you be okay with that? Because that's what Biden's doing.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.4  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    2 months ago

You know nothing about it.  Trump is some conservatives candidate because he is a world-class 'jerk' and no other qualifications are suitable or needed. Stick with what some conservatives know! Biden can choose to announce his interest in political candidate because of the uniqueness of the job of President of the United States.  The person has to be a proper 'fit' for the one of a kind job of VP and the one of a kind duties and responsibilities at the top (no nuance intended).

Trump conservatives do not give a damn about qualifications or suitability for working for the people of the country. Those conservatives simply want to toss crap around and 'big-foot' everything democratically established because its cheap and easy to banter and harass.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @5.1.4    2 months ago

None of that addresses what I said. 

Is it acceptable to limit candidates for positions on the basis of race or sex or not? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.3    2 months ago
If the President of your local bank announced that he's going to hire the most qualified non-Asian male to be VP, would you be okay with that? Because that's what Biden's doing

If the president of my local bank said he was going to hire the neighborhood's biggest liar, crook, bigot , moron , and cheat I wouldn't be ok with that either. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    2 months ago

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.8  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.5    2 months ago
Is it acceptable to limit candidates for positions on the basis of race or sex or not?

Limit?  You consider the list limited?  Please explain.

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.1    2 months ago

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Texan1211
5.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.8    2 months ago
Limit?  You consider the list limited?  Please explain.

If men are excluded from consideration, then YES, the list is limited.

Almost half the population is excluded.

From Biden himself:

post 6.1 (thanks, Jim!)

"Former Vice President  Joe Biden  said Sunday he would pick a woman to be his vice-presidential running mate."
"If I'm elected president, my Cabinet, my administration will look like the country, and I commit that I will, in fact, appoint a, pick a woman to be vice president," Biden said at the CNN-Univision debate in Washington, DC.
Biden continued, "There are a number of women who are qualified to be president tomorrow. I would pick a woman to be my vice president."
 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.11  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.10    2 months ago
If men are excluded from consideration, then YES, the list is limited.

What were the names of the women on Trump's VP short list?

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.11    2 months ago
What were the names of the women on Trump's VP short list?

If you insist on making this about Trump, why don't you post an article dealing with THAT topic instead of deflecting on this one?

BTFW, what does Trump have to do with who Biden picks???????????

Is is just fucking impossible to have any conversation about virtually anything here without the "I Hate Trump" crowd butting in?

Rhetorical---proof is right in front of us on almost every article.

Do ya'll get paid to derail and deflect?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.7    2 months ago

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Texan1211
5.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.5    2 months ago
Is it acceptable to limit candidates for positions on the basis of race or sex or not? 

For some, it depends solely on whether a Democrat or a Republican does it.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.16  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.12    2 months ago
Do ya'll get paid to derail and deflect?

Are you saying you don't?  You should contact Perrie right away.  It's not  a lot, but it pays the bills.

Now answer my question.  Who were the women VP picks on Trump's short list?  Let me help you with that.  None.  If it didn't bother you to support a man who refused to put a woman on his VP short list (and Stormi Daniels doesn't count), why does it clearly bother you that Biden's short list includes only women?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.17  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.12    2 months ago

Funny how Trump is somehow relevant to Biden's choice to exclude people from consideration for the Vice Presidency based on biology. 

 
 
 
CB
5.1.18  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.11    2 months ago

That's right, Sister! Handle your business, giiirl!

 
 
 
CB
5.1.19  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.16    2 months ago

You better 'work'! 24 Biden is under no republican control in this campaign process. Tucker Carlson can go push carts.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.20  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.17    2 months ago
Funny how Trump is somehow relevant to Biden's choice to exclude people from consideration for the Vice Presidency based on biology.

Sean, I'm saying that Biden isn't the first presidential candidate to set a one-gender VP precedent.  The list is long, and Trump was a chronological starting point, nothing more nothing less.  If one has agreed with the one-gender short list of previous administrations, then it shouldn't matter if the list is all men, or all women. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.1.21  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    2 months ago

Why did Trump pick Pence, if not for seeking Evangelist support?  According to the ridiculous argument I've read in a comment on this seed, to choose means to also exclude which means prejudice against those you exclude.  What a lame argument.  

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.22  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  CB @5.1.19    2 months ago
Biden is under no republican control in this campaign process.

I wish someone would tell the republicans that.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.21    2 months ago

You might want to think that through Buzz.  It's such a lame comparison.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.24  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.20    2 months ago
ng that Biden isn't the first presidential candidate to set a one-gender VP precedent

Trump had a woman on his short list and never said I'm only picking a white male to be Vice President.  

No other candidate in decades to my knowledge  has ever publicly excluded candidates solely based on gender like Biden has.  So what other candidate ever publicly excluded women, or men before starting the search process? 

s, then it shouldn't matter if the list is all men, or all women. 

It matters if they are on the list only because they are men or women. If all of the best candidates are males or females, so be it. But to start the process by saying I'm only going to consider a woman to be VP is entirely different. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.1.25  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.23    2 months ago

Well, if so, lame begets lame. 

What I DO think is that Tammy will never be chosen because of her ancestry, because the chances for anyone of that ancestry have been ruined by Trump's xenophobic racist nomenclature of the virus and his and is administration's demonizing, damning and bashing China in order to deflect from his own negligent incompetence in dealing with the virus, as directed by the O'Donnell Covid Republican playbook directive for Trump's re-election.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
5.1.26  pat wilson  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.16    2 months ago

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CB
5.1.27  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.22    2 months ago

CB:   "Hey Republicans and Trump Conservatives! Joe Biden is not under any "Trump-think" influences in this campaign process.

It's our party we can do what we want!
It's our party we can say what we want!
It's our party we can love who we want!
We can kiss who we want!
We can see who we want!

- Big Ups to Miley Cyrus! "We Can't Stop."

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.28  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.16    2 months ago
Now answer my question.  Who were the women VP picks on Trump's short list?  Let me help you with that.  None.  If it didn't bother you to support a man who refused to put a woman on his VP short list (and Stormi Daniels doesn't count), why does it clearly bother you that Biden's short list includes only women?

Okay, you were doing fine right up until you told me how I feel about it.

Bother me?

Why the hell would it bother me?

But it is funnier than hell that you think bringing up Trump, after bitching about him for over 3 years, as an acceptable example for Hidin' Biden to follow is a good argument.

So no, it doesn't bother me in the least that no women were on Trump's short list.

Do you think there will come a day when the top 6 or 8 picks for VP will be women? Will that suddenly mean that whoever chooses from that list will be accused of sexism?

Which women would you have had on Trump's short list ?

As far as Hiden' Biden is concerned, why would I care?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.29  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.24    2 months ago
Trump had a woman on his short list and never said I'm only picking a white male to be Vice President.

Got a name for that woman?  A link would be nice, too. 

And Trump didn't have to say 'I'm only picking a white male to be VP.'  He wears his misogyny like a pink pussy hat.

In addition, Joe Biden has been a supporter of women's rights for 30 years.  It makes sense that he would choose a woman, and as long as they are qualified, why not?  As a matter of fact, when one considers the political climate regarding women, a higher qualification bar must be met.  Like Avis used to say, when you're number two, you have to try harder.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.30  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.29    one month ago

SISTER! Women have a friend in you! In a mere matter of 'days' we will see what mouthy Trump will utter about a woman-blood secretions-whatever! Women should 'lose it' on his behind when he goes there!

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.31  Texan1211  replied to  CB @5.1.30    one month ago
SISTER! Women have a friend in you! In a mere matter of 'days' we will see whatmouthyTrumpwill utter about awoman-blood secretions-whatever! Women should 'lose it' onhisbehind when he goes there!

So now you are clairvoyant?

You know what Trump will say before he says it?

Wow!

 
 
 
CB
5.1.32  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.31    one month ago

Google: "Megan Kelly blood. . . ."  Then, resubmit your complaint in a comment. We have history on our side.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.33  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.25    one month ago

See here how some posters call it the 'China virus' because tRump does?  What would they do without their tRump talking points?  

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
5.1.34  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  CB @5.1.27    one month ago

True, but it still works both ways. Why should it only be so for the left?

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.35  Texan1211  replied to  CB @5.1.32    one month ago
Google: "Megan Kelly blood. . . ."  Then, resubmit your complaint in a comment. We have history on our side

So because of a prior comment, you are now clairvoyant?

I didn't know that's how it worked!

What complaint are you referring to specifically?

Care to quote it, or is is just made-up CRAP?

I'm betting heavily on CRAP.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.36  CB   replied to  Tessylo @5.1.33    one month ago

Or,. . . . . . . is .it. . . . Trump calling it "China Virus" because of his posters? Gee. Just when we thought Trump was too shallow for 'shoveling.' This happens!

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.1.37  Raven Wing  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.20    one month ago
then it shouldn't matter if the list is all men, or all women. 

Nor should it matter the color of their skin. Trump is White, and he is totally, completely, without question one of the worst, if not the worst, President this country has ever had. And his VP, Pence, is White, and he is undoubtedly one of the most worthless VP's this country has ever had. And the only reason that Trump picked him, is that out of all the candidates, Pence is the only one who could not out shine Trump in a NY second on any subject, under any circumstances, and not add to the gross embarrassment and laughing stock Trump has made of America.

And history will bear that out more than once.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.38  CB   replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.34    one month ago

Friend Ed! I do not care what Trump does with his supporters. I do wonder why they are his supporters continuously, though! That man is "It is what it is" about grands and women and children -- of the virus. Just think about that the next time you see him going into 'combat-mode' over and against medical science and its purveyors.

No. As to the RNC or Trump kicking Pence to the curb for a conservative medical scientist, it is not for me to be overly interested in.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.39  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.35    one month ago

I never uttered or displayed, "clairvoyant" that's all you, Texan! Explain it to yourself already.  We have prior experience with the 'mouthy' Trump with its red-blood smeared delivery. As for "CRAP" that's all you, too!

You wish to know which comment I am referring to: Google, "Megan Kelly blood. . . ."  (HINT: Bing it.)

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.40  Texan1211  replied to  CB @5.1.39    one month ago
I never uttered or displayed, "clairvoyant" that's all you, Texan!

Oh, okay. I can pretend you didn't write this just as well as you!

SISTER! Women have a friend in you! In a mere matter of 'days' we will see whatmouthyTrumpwill utter about awoman-blood secretions-whatever! Women should 'lose it' onhisbehind when he goes there!

We'll just pretend it never existed, mmmkay?

SMH and LOL!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.1.41  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.33    one month ago

They're very good at following their "pied piper". Hopefully they will follow him out of the White House. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
5.1.42  Raven Wing  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.33    one month ago
What would they do without their tRump talking points?  

What would they do if they didn't have Trump to tell them how to talk? 

Trump is doing all he can to try to deflect from his own stupidity and arrogance in thinking he knows more than the medical experts, and he had not only put this country in situation where America could totally collapse, but, infecting and killing our citizens unnecessarily, plus lying endlessly to us trying to save his worthless ass.

He can't stand the idea of having to take responsibility of his own actions and the lives of the people, which he swore in his Bible to serve and protect, as well as the Constitution, and it was nothing but one more of his endless lies, as he had not done one day of this term.

I am sure that Trump will insist on being in charge of Hell when he gets there. However, having seen what he has done to America and its people, The Devil will refuse on grounds that Trump is not fit to be in charge of Hell.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.43  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.40    one month ago

'Days' (note the quotes) is open-ended. I need not tease this out for you. If you don't like it tough!

 
 
 
CB
5.1.44  CB   replied to  Raven Wing @5.1.42    one month ago
infecting and killing our citizens unnecessarily, plus lying endlessly to us trying to save his worthless ass.

The citizens of this country do not deserve this. Trump is so detached from reality that he envisions the virus leaving the United States without a second wave this fall (of its own volition) completing its deadly course. We have become fodder to be purged in 'Trump-fire!'

Trump supporters are accessories to lies. If Trump can ignore the deaths of veterans,' grands,' teens, and wants to feed the children to the virus 'beast' this August, what will he do for 2021's second wave?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1.45  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.33    one month ago

I was calling it the Wuhan virus from day one. So were millions of others.

Trump finally picked up on it.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.46  Bob Nelson  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.45    one month ago

Considering the number of Americans who have died because of Trump's fecklessness, it should be renamed "Trump’s pandemic".

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.47  dennis smith  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.12    one month ago

The typical deflect to Trump seems to be all some NT posters are capable of doing.

Fear not, they will be doing the same thing for 4 more years.

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.48  dennis smith  replied to  CB @5.1.27    one month ago

You are free to deflect everything said about Biden to Trump and do quite a lot of that.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.49  CB   replied to  dennis smith @5.1.48    one month ago

You want a deflection. . . watch the Miley Cryus video "We Can't Stop."

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1.50  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.46    one month ago

Trump should go down as this country's most prolific mass murderer ever.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.51  CB   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.50    one month ago

In it is an outrage to the memories of the dead that he should be allowed to knowingly continue to deepen his 'combat' against the citizenry while lining his pockets and lifting Russia up in the world! It is time for a writ of no confidence in this president to take place. And Tucker Carlson is worried about the female choice for VP!

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.52  dennis smith  replied to  CB @5.1.51    one month ago

Just more deflection from the topic of the article. As expected.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.53  CB   replied to  dennis smith @5.1.52    one month ago

What does "probably illegal" mean coming from a (weak, apparently) print journalist like Carlson? Does it mean Tucker does little to insufficient research? That is, supporters of Trump would rather have a "deliverable" each evening that scratches their itching ears rather than hard-cold facts and informed opinion-makings?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.54  Bob Nelson  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.50    one month ago

Oh! Paula!

We can't lay all 160 000 deaths on Trump.

No more than, say, 100 000. And more every day.

... ... Does that still qualify for "this country's most prolific mass murderer ever"?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.55  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @5.1.51    one month ago

What is this word "outrage"?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.56  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @5.1.53    one month ago
journalist like Carlson

I think you go astray here...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1.57  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.54    one month ago

Hell yes it does.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.58  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.55    one month ago

It means we should be Paul Revere riding, and clanging pops from our roof tops, shouting out: "General quarters! General quarters, this is not a drill!"

Everyone (staying at home) should be calling and querying their congressperson and telling him or her to go to the television networks on a daily basis to denounce President Trump as working deceit with Russia to make their (Covid-19 induced) votes not worth a damn and utterly useless! And so forth and so on. . . !

 
 
 
CB
5.1.59  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.56    one month ago

His bio includes his training as a print journalist. What he has done is joined his politics to fame (and not the good kind). It is pig-capitalism which drives Tucker not fidelity to the facts of the matter. Trump is a lying, deceitful, sack of crap. Tucker is not blinded to reason. Just paid to ignore that instead.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.60  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @5.1.58    one month ago

... at the very least, we should be calling this slomo fascist coup d'état what it is.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.1.61  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @5.1.59    one month ago

Carlson's defects are standard on the right.
- Greed
- Lies

 
 
 
CB
5.1.62  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.60    one month ago

I am calling my congressman and senators today!

We must call our politicians NOW!  Tell them, if they won't take Trump on; Then we will! That is, why do we need them in Washington, D.C. is we have to come up there ourselves?!

 
 
 
CB
5.1.63  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1.61    one month ago

What qualifies that rank 51 year old journalist to question the rights and privileges of these women to be vice-president and if necessary president? He is not willing to run and remove the lying sack of scum who is watching his fellow citizens die horribly.

We are dying out here. The soronavirus is cutting a path through doctors and nurses and other front-line workers. And Trump is practicing subterfuge on the elections! Subterfuge at the post office! Subterfuge with Russia.

And Carlson is one of those folks, like some Trump supporters on NT, who want us to discuss everybody else but Trump! Don't look or discuss Trump!

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    2 months ago
"Of course it's racist and sexist."

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Bob Nelson
5.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    one month ago

In their infinite wisdom, the American people elected a reality-TV star.

All of the women I've seen mentioned have better credentials.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3    one month ago
All of the women I've seen mentioned have better credentials.

Again Bob, Trump has nothing to do with this. Biden is supposedly a sentient adult with agency. Biden is the only one responsible for Biden  racist and sexist exclusion of candidate based only on biology.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.3.1    one month ago

How do you imagine a process of selection?

The party generally agrees that it must diversify. How do you imagine achieving that goal?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3    one month ago
"All of the women I've seen mentioned have better credentials."

Alfred E. Newman has better credentials.  He said pretty well the same thing that Trump did and said about the virus. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.4  Bob Nelson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.3    one month ago

I guess we WASPs need to recognize "Male Privilege", along with "White Privilege". When I read something like Sean's Comment , it kinda jumps out at me just how unaware most men are.

As a straight male WASP, I've had a deprived existence: I have never been subject to any discrimination of any kind.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3.4    one month ago
"As a straight male WASP, I've had a deprived existence: I have never been subject to any discrimination of any kind."

I've not been deprived of discrimination, as you can imagine, but I'll not go into that here. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.6  Bob Nelson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.5    one month ago

Ah, yes... I'll have to add "gentile" to my list of "why I've never known discrimination."

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3.6    one month ago

Not necessary - White Anglo-Saxon Protestant covers it all.

 
 
 
CB
5.3.8  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3.4    one month ago

Right. Because there is this gnawing issue of women-of al stripes-in this country, existing, working, and achieving for well over two-hundred plus years. Why can't we find a few morally sufficient and qualified, . . .women to lead?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.9  Bob Nelson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.7    one month ago

Ya know? I'd the P.

Of course, it meant "not Catholic", since Catholics were sometimes discriminated against, sixty years ago.

Today, it would be more appropriate to replace "Protestant" (not subject to anti-Catholic discrimination) with "Gentile" (not subject to anti-Semitism).

But I don't know how to pronounce "WASG"...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  CB @5.3.8    one month ago

Of course you are speaking of the USA, because Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, India, Myanmar, Germany, and I'm sure other nations have had Prime Ministers or Presidents who were women.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.11  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @5.3.8    one month ago
Why can't we find a few morally sufficient and qualified, . . .women to lead?

Sarah Palin!

 
 
 
CB
5.3.12  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3.11    one month ago

Well,. . . she is a conservative personality and voter and a lot less democratically-minded because of that. Still, she comes from a long line of women.  . . and depending on your favor of politics and policies . . . well okay!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.13  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @5.3.12    one month ago

I was joking, CB. I hope you were, too...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.14  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  CB @5.3.12    one month ago

Hey CB, EVERY woman comes from a long line of women.

 
 
 
CB
5.3.15  CB   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.14    one month ago

Yes every woman does come from a long line of women in the sense you mean it. I agree! However, all women to do not share commonality with the United States! (Smile.)

 
 
 
CB
5.3.16  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3.13    one month ago

I understand! I simply want  republican/democratic parties working to create a reasonable playing field for straightforward policies—not this near-blind loyalty to a self-absorbed kleptocrat!

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.3.17  dennis smith  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.3.1    one month ago

Sean, deflection is all the left have left. They do provide daily humor and will no doubt continue for another 4 years of Trump as POTUS.

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.3.18  dennis smith  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.3    one month ago

More deflection form the topic. Nothing new once again.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.19  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  dennis smith @5.3.18    one month ago

When it comes to deflection, I'm an amateur compared to your leader (who can do no wrong in his followers' eyes).

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.20  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @5.3.16    one month ago
I simply want  republican/democratic parties working to create a reasonable playing field for straightforward policies

"simply"???

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Bob Nelson
5.3.21  Bob Nelson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.19    one month ago
More deflection...

It's interesting, isn't it?

Our dear "conservatives" (I'm avoiding the Mussolini word) are constantly accusing others of what they are doing or intending to do.

Remember the days when they cried out their fears of "Obama's FEMA shocktroops"? No one ever saw thos, of course... but we definitely did see Trump's ICE shocktroops, in Portland.

Here on NT, there's nothing so dramatic as shocktroops... for the moment... but the same process - accusing opponents of whatever they themselves are doing or planning to do - is very much present.

 
 
 
CB
5.3.22  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3.20    one month ago

Love the "up close" —perfect! Yeah, I know. But tearing the country apart only means 'others' will supplant us. We can not go to civil war over this president. He is only a one man, for crying out loud! Throw the lying ego-maniac out on his. . . hot 'round' buns! Bob! I am almost sure Donald Trump, the man, can't believe we, the people of the storied United States, are allowing him free rein over us to let him 'whiz' all over us like he is doing!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.23  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @5.3.22    one month ago

IMHO, Trump has always done as he pleases. (Well... at least since he got away from his father's control.)

His money allowed him to do whatever he wished. Play Monopoly with real hotels. Grope starlets. Be a TV star.

As President, he has continued on the same path. He has surrounded himself with sycophants, and fired anyone who didn't swear fealty to him, personally.

Objectively, he has moulded his America to his will.

Now he's hearing about possible defeat, so he's doing as he has always done: if he can't win under the current rules, he'll change the rules. False census. Handicapped mail-in voting. Outright voter suppression. Change the date of the election.

He will do anything.

 
 
 
CB
5.3.24  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3.23    one month ago

We are the 'front.' We have to call our congress people: Today! If the republicans won't stay up to Trump then knock their RED asses out of the way! This country's hard won, Rule of Law theory, will not be casted down for the lies of an evil maniacal president who can not be reasoned with, affected by the pains and emotions of others, and is not worth his salt.

I am calling my congressman and senators today!

We must call our politicians NOW!  Tell them, if they won't take Trump on; Then we will! That is, why do we need them in Washington, D.C. is we have to come up there ourselves?!!!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.3.25  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3    one month ago

The American people showed who they wanted by over 3 million votes.  This past 4 years is all on the EC.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
5.3.26  Bob Nelson  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.3.25    one month ago

I hate to say this... but there’s a certain logic to the EC. The Fathers understood that "majority rule" needs moderation. The EC was an attempt to avoid excessive power for a small number of high-population states. (Without the EC, a coalition of ten states would have a majority.)

After a couple centuries, it seems safe to say that we could find better means than the EC for tempering the majority. Other countries have done better... but they had the advantage of learning from America's mistakes.

We now have the opposite of the Fathers' worry: minority rule.

 
 
 
CB
5.3.27  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @5.3.26    one month ago

Nothing is beyond corrupting once you find its reagent. The trick is to keep vigilant and for heaven's sake remove all signs of 'corrosion'!

 
 
 
Tessylo
6  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

Who has said that Joe Biden is only considering women/black women for VP?

Has Joe Biden said it?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @6    2 months ago
"Former Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday he would pick a woman to be his vice-presidential running mate."
"If I'm elected president, my Cabinet, my administration will look like the country, and I commit that I will, in fact, appoint a, pick a woman to be vice president," Biden said at the CNN-Univision debate in Washington, DC.
Biden continued, "There are a number of women who are qualified to be president tomorrow. I would pick a woman to be my vice president."
Do you only get your news from Yahoo and Newstalkers?
 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1    2 months ago

I asked a question.

I didn't bother to look at your link, I just now noticed that it was from March.  

No need to be such a . . . . . about it, but then that is par for the course from you.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.1    2 months ago

Sunday? Where did you pick that up..........................The article is from March 15th  2020

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1.2    2 months ago
I didn't look at your link, I just now noticed that it was from March.  
You can stop being such a . . . . now . . . 
 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.3    2 months ago
I didn't bother to look at your link, I just now noticed that it was from March.  

Which, to quote you............."is par for the course from you.". And of course "You can stop being such a . . . . now"

 
 
 
CB
6.2  CB   replied to  Tessylo @6    2 months ago

Joe stated he will, if given the chance, put a black woman on the Supreme Court. While I understand the politics of stating some matters of interest up front, I do not see the wisdom in announcing so far ahead that critics can choose to 'ham-fist' it at their leisure rather than in desperation. What is happening with the VP spot of late is this. There are 'forces' inside the Democratic Party which want the constituency of black women who vote heavily to be recognized with some real power at the top. Those forces are pressing hard on this one at this time.

Oh, and pay no attention to the negative 'bobs' and 'nancys' that are out and about. Just take what is good and proper from anybody's words and throw the rest in the trash!

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.2.1  Sunshine  replied to  CB @6.2    2 months ago
What is happening with the VP spot of late is this. There are 'forces' inside the Democratic Party which want the constituency of black women who vote heavily to be recognized with some real power at the top.

So Biden is being forced to choose a woman....good to know.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7  Paula Bartholomew    2 months ago

What should be illegal is the blatant stupidity this clown broadcasts.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @8    2 months ago

So the topic is now Trump?

Biden's choice no longer the subject of your seed?

just wanting clarification before I respond. Wouldn't want to be accused of being off topic!

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1    one month ago

It most certainly does relate to Joe Biden.

That's some of the tRump supporting morons/right wing talking heads talking about all of Joe's gaffes with Trevor Noah brilliantly overlaying it with SOME of tRumps' gaffes.  

You obviously didn't watch it or you would know that.  

If you have a problem with it, go whine to the moderators.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.1    one month ago

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Tessylo
8.1.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.2    one month ago

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Texan1211
8.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.3    one month ago

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dennis smith
8.1.5  dennis smith  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1    one month ago

Some things never change Texan. Deflection is all they have left.

 
 
 
CB
8.1.6  CB   replied to  dennis smith @8.1.5    one month ago

Well yeah. Okay explain why you trust Tucker Carlson to tell you the truth? How well do you know Tucker Carlson,  Joe Biden, or the VP choices?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
8.1.7  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @8.1.6    one month ago
Okay explain why you trust Tucker Carlson to tell you the truth?

Ummm........ CB??

No one expects Tucker Carlson to "tell the truth". Everyone, regardless of political orientation, expects Tucker Carlson to say whatever he believes will please TrumpTrueBelievers.

Trump's worshipers listen to Carlson because he brings them The Word of Their God.

Normal people watch Carlson like they watch a buzzard scavenging - with fascination and disgust.

 
 
 
CB
8.1.8  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @8.1.7    one month ago

Of course the questions are tailored for Trump supporters, who have daily dinner time politics unto where they bring biscuits to 'lap' Tucker's gravy up . . . .

I can't watch Tucker "raw," any more than I can watch Sean Hannity "uncut." They're disgusting propagandists sold out to the 'cause' for whatever it is Fox has hired them to put eyes and asses into data point driven seats over! They are senior and junior franchise players.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @8    one month ago

The year 220?  That settles it, I'm voting for Emperor Xian.

 
 
 
devangelical
9  devangelical    2 months ago

meh, at least Biden's VP pick isn't a dominionist Q-Tip lookalike that can't trust himself alone around a female of any age...

 
 
 
pat wilson
10  pat wilson    2 months ago

Tucker's a jackass. Biden can say his VP will be a woman, a minority, or an alien from space. It's as legal as the day is long.

Hey Tuck, where's you bow tie ?

 
 
 
CB
10.1  CB   replied to  pat wilson @10    2 months ago

Tucker Carlson is the number 1 franchise player for FOX now.  guess that means, FOX "gets" him. (Former lead player, Hannity Is aging out and tired.) Yeah, Tucker is 'soldiering on' now that he had his 'jock' handed to him for being a bigoted show profile and riding it to the top of the network! That's it, Tucker, just try to make us look away from the moment your pants got pulled down on cable television. We saw the 'goods' if that is all you got and we shall not let you forget it.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
10.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  pat wilson @10    one month ago

Pee Wee Herman took it back.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
11  Bob Nelson    one month ago

What's interesting here is that Carlson is saying bullshit that any lucid listener knows is bullshit. He doesn't care.

He isn't interested in the opinions of "lucid listeners".

He is stroking the egos of TrumpTrueBelievers, who don't care about truth and falsehood; only about feeding the ego of their Lord.

I've read, elsewhere, that Carlson is positioning himself to take the mantle of Lord, when Trump fades.

 
 
 
CB
11.1  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @11    one month ago

Welcome back into 'the stream,' Bob! So. It ain't bad enough when propaganda bullshit makes millions on television ; now, it can take you to the top of the thinking man's world?! Critical thinking loses when it allows this happen! (Yes! I said critical thinking permits it. Because critical thinking folks have the tools to back down propaganda!)

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
11.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @11.1    one month ago

We elected a reality-TV star.

Why would anyone consider it Improbable to elect a faux-news talking head?

 
 
 
CB
11.1.2  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @11.1.1    one month ago

"We" is somewhat vague. But in the interest of 'welcoming back' -Okay! Touchè! One "improbable" talking head falling into alignment. I'm betting that he milks 'fox friends' for profit with a 'pledge' to some day!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
11.1.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @11.1.2    one month ago
I'm betting that he milks 'fox friends' for profit with a 'pledge' to some day!

Of course.

I wonder how long Murdoch will play along.

 
 
 
CB
11.1.4  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @11.1.3    one month ago

For profit the 'pledge' will be coy and lingering. However, Murdoch does not indulge actual candidates to hang around the show schedulers!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
11.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @11.1.4    one month ago

Murdoch will never accept a tail wagging the dog. So the question is when will he jettison Carlson, and how acrimonious the separation will be.

 
 
 
CB
11.1.6  CB   replied to  Bob Nelson @11.1.5    one month ago

There is plenty time for making money (for the next "four"!). No acrimony. Tucker will simply have to decide if he wants more millions for FOX 'gigging' or wants to end his tenure to go out looking of donors and gauging support (beyond fox friends, that is).

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
11.1.7  Bob Nelson  replied to  CB @11.1.6    one month ago

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Paula Bartholomew
11.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  CB @11.1.6    one month ago

This tool being on "indefinite leave" means so fired.

 
 
 
CB
11.1.9  CB   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @11.1.8    one month ago

Probably got professionally 'knifed' by Hannity: that other old franchise fox!

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
12  Release The Kraken    one month ago

Biden has a pick already

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Bob Nelson
12.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Release The Kraken @12    one month ago

Memes like this demonstrate mindlessness.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
14  Greg Jones    one month ago

What a fucked up, censored thread...the entire thing.

Let me sum it up for the low information readers.

Biden has committed to chosing a female VP.

None of the likely candidates appear to be acceptable to the majority of American citizens.

Ergo...Trump wins the election.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
14.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Greg Jones @14    one month ago

Except a majority of Americans hate Trump FAR more than they hate Biden or ANY of his VP picks. What is fucked up is how you can pretend to have moral principles and support the one person on earth who represents/displays a lack of them. 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
15  Thrawn 31    one month ago
‘Probably Illegal’

"Probably Gay" For Carlson to only Solicit Men Online

 
 
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