Trump must turn over tax returns to NY prosecutors, judge rules
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Via: tessylo • 4 years ago • 73 commentsBy: Tom Winter and Rich Schapiro, NBC News
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Trump must turn over tax returns to NY prosecutors, judge rules
A federal judge on Thursday denied President Donald Trump’s latest attempt to quash a probe by New York prosecutors seeking his tax returns and other financial documents.
The ruling by U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero amounted to a second loss in Trump’s high-stakes court battle with Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance.
Marrero had earlier rejected Trump’s initial attempt to block a subpoena from Vance seeking eight years of the president’s tax returns.
The Supreme Court ruled last month that the president is not immune from a grand jury subpoena while in office but said Trump could use an alternative argument to fight it.
“At its core, it amounts to absolute immunity through a back door, an entry point through which not only a President but also potentially other persons and entities, public and private, could effectively gain cover from judicial process,” Marrero wrote.
The decision moves Vance one step closer to obtaining the president's financial records. But within just a few hours of the ruling, Trump's lawyers filed an emergency motion appealing the decision and asking for a freeze on the case.
"The President respectfully disagrees with that decision and believes there is a likelihood of reversal on appeal," Trump's lawyers wrote. "But what matters most at this point is that, absent a stay, the subpoena will be enforced before the President has been afforded any appellate review of his overbreadth and bad-faith claims."
Vance’s office subpoenaed Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars USA, in 2019 as part of an investigation into the Trump Organization about payments made to two women who have alleged affairs with the president, which he has denied. In a court filing earlier this month , Vance’s office suggested the investigation goes beyond the payments to include alleged insurance and bank fraud.
A spokesman for Vance’s office declined comment.
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A federal judge on Thursday denied President Donald Trump’s latest attempt to quash a probe by New York prosecutors seeking his tax returns and other financial documents.
The ruling by U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero amounted to a second loss in Trump’s high-stakes court battle with Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance.
Marrero had earlier rejected Trump’s initial attempt to block a subpoena from Vance seeking eight years of the president’s tax returns.
The Supreme Court ruled last month that the president is not immune from a grand jury subpoena while in office but said Trump could use an alternative argument to fight it.
he is so fckn dirty and corrupt ! plus Bannon just got arrested this mournin, cause he only hires the best and the brightest .
This quest for the returns is simply a fishing expedition that will yield no fish. It's too late now for anything found to much affect the election.
Trump of course will resist turning anything over until after the election...one of the privileges of being a sitting president.
Once he is reelected, the issue will quickly fade away. If the IRS is happy with his tax information, that's the end of the story.
didn't he say MANY TIMES, he would produce his tax returns once some bullshit audit was completed ? Didn't he say MEXICO would pay for that WALL ? Instead, sucker supporters pay for Bannon's lavish life style,as he only hires the most corrupt and immoral he can drag up from the bottom of that swamp he draineed in order to find em .
Have you ever purchased a home? Have you ever rented an apartment? Have you ever opened a bank account... interviewed for a job... or applied for a credit card? If you can say yes to any of these things, then you had to provide the same information that Trump has been ordered to provide. I dare you to tell the people who would be considering your application for any of the above scenarios that you have no intention of providing your financial information. You would become so familiar with rejection, that a Xanax dependency might be part of your homeless/bankless/jobless future.
I don't expect The President of the United States to be held to the same standard that the average citizen is subjected to. After-all, we are plebeians worthy of being judged. Instead, I expect the President of the United States to be held to a higher bar by a factor of 10.
Does an Amen from an agnostic count sister?
Always!!
"Olie Lou Ya...Ahm Saaved!"
Michael Cohen testified under oath that he falsified bank documents. NYT published extensive evidence that he illegally transferred money from his father's estate and misrepresented his holdings on his taxes. He has a known history of bank and tax malfeasance going back forty years. His charity has already been shut down for corrupt practices, as was his "university". Hardly a fishing expedition. With Trump more like shooting fish in a barrel.
Trump and Bannon can share a cell.
For what crimes. Accusations aren't enough
But let me guess...Hillary is a criminal, right Greg? What was that you were saying about accusations?
Anyway...
Trump said he would release his tax returns after the election in 2016. Now he has taken it all the way to the SCOTUS, to keep them hidden.
No matter how you slice it, he lied.
they already share one.
One brain cell.
What gets me is his diehard fans do not even take a breaths time to wonder why he is fighting tooth and nail to keep all of his records a secret.
"What gets me is his diehard fans do not even take a breaths time to wonder why he is fighting tooth and nail to keep all of his records a secret."
Follow the money . . . it leads to Putin
Because they know that something is there, and if it comes to light, they would have to admit they were wrong. It isn't any more difficult than bruised pride.
They should compare what Trump turns over to what is on file. Trump is the type to turn over doctored documents.
that's why trump is still stalling. his accountants still have to recreate x number of years of returns that jive with the numbers on file, without going to jail and convincing trump to pay them again.
that's why trump is still stalling. his accountants still have to recreate x number of years of returns that jive with the numbers on file
and progressives make fun of qanon...
If his taxes are already on file, what's the point of him submitting the same records again?
Believe me when I assure you there is no there, there!
Isn't this all about some payoff to some bimbo that no one gives a shit about anyway?
Isn't this all about some payoff
No, it is about tax and insurance fraud.
If he is referring to the Stormy pay off, that will come back to bite Trump from other sources unless he was stupid enough to try to claim it as a deduction on on his taxes.
No, it is about tax and insurance fraud.
With a possible side order of money laundering through Deutsche Bank.
Remind me again - how exactly is that pronounced?
I'm pretty sure I'm not getting it right.
Ha!!
And the Kushner's (at least Jared and his father) are up to their eyeballs in it, as well. It takes more than one fool to launder money for Russia.
Too right! Comparatively speaking, it's like 'Stormi who?'
Pass the dutchie?
... on the left hand side...
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
Ha. I couldn't do their accent no matter how many times I tried.
Now I got the damn song in my head!
I think you've got the proper pronunciation down Adam.
Trump ist eine Duschtasche!
yea, your who all should go to/for the TRUTH/S
Well why didn't you say so in the first fucking place?! I wouldn't have wasted so much time coming to terms with how big of a skank Donald Trump really is.
You are on fire today girl!
Time is short. We've got a little less than 3 months to put several exclamation points behind "Get out!" Grrrrr, baby!
Every day.
I hope your SHIFT+1 keys hold up!
I own at least one of every item Spanx has to offer. I'm sure I have something that'll help...
People with nothing to hide, hide nothing.
That’s what Stalin and every other authoritarian butcher said.
lucky we have a constitution designed to protect us from people who think like that.
N who's acting like an "authoritarian butcher", Trump, or the Southern District ?
It's baffling that those who support him, either cannot, or will not, understand that simple premise.
Trump said he would release his tax returns after the election, then spent 4 years doing everything he can to prevent them from being released.. Can you explain that?
Probably because he thinks they would hurt him politically. Is it that hard to understand?
Um.. Anyone who claims an American isn't entitled to due process and keeping private records private without a valid subpoena.
But by all means, publish your tax returns on this site if you've nothing to hide.
Once people who claim "People with nothing to hide, hide nothing," do that, I'll take them seriously. Funny how they only apply that standard to others.
That is why they need to compare whatever he turns over to what is on file. His most likely are cooked books.
But that's the thing Sean, this is a valid subpoena as confirmed by several courts now. Trumps weak defense for refusing them has lost. When any of the rest of us lose a fight to keep our records secret we must turn them over, it's the law. Are you saying Trump should be above the law?
i pretty much only apply it to Pols, so as i know who's interests they are actually looking out for
Trump sure gave a shit about her.
1. Has Mnuchin at Treasury been able to 'clean up' the Trump's taxes?
2. And what happens if the Trump simply refuses because he is the Trump?
Turning over the records was a court order. If he refuses, freeze his assets and padlock the doors of what few businesses he has not run into the ground. Put liens on his properties. I know, wishful thinking on my part.
Am afraid the thinking is 'wishful'. Is the Trump invincible?
And to think this all started because Trump refused to something he is not legally bound to do and liberal / Democrat hissy fit.
This all started because he paid hundreds of thousands to porn stars during the campaign to buy their silence then tried writing those payments off as business expenses.
"Vance’s office subpoenaed Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars USA, in 2019 as part of an investigation into the Trump Organization about payments made to two women who have alleged affairs with the president, which he has denied. In a court filing earlier this month, Vance’s office suggested the investigation goes beyond the payments to include alleged insurance and bank fraud."
We know the payments were made. We know they were illegal. We know Trump knew about them and we know Trump is "unindicted co-conspirator number 1" whose named co-conspirator has already been convicted and the ONLY reason Trump is not already in jail is because of the Justice department policy not to indict a sitting President.
No argument there.
YOU (there is no "we") assume they were illegal. Since losing the election in 2016 and Trump NOT releasing his taxes as his predecessors have (which there is no legal requirement) it gave birth to the conspiracy theories the left has run with for 4 years now.
Now one's head has to be pretty far up their 4th point of contact to think that the Obama / Clinton campaign didn't use the IRS to look into Trumps finances. If there were something probative, it would have been exposed.
What should be so unbelievably obvious to everyone is why he is trying to move mountains to prevent his tax returns from being seen by the American public. If he had nothing to hide, he would have no reason to hide that information. What the American people should be concerned about is what IS it that he's trying to hide?
Why do you care what happens in the US?
For all NT members, especially those who have memory problems since I answered that question previously, I worry about my son and his family, including my only grandchildren, who live in Wisconsin. He has a very important and highly respected job there, but I wish he would move with his family to Canada, where he comes from, notwithstanding his wife and my grandchildren are all American-born citizens. As well, I have good friends on NT who are Americans. So for those reasons I VERY MUCH care what happens in the US.
Far more than Dismayed Patriot know this was illegal. Refresh my memory someone, were not the funds drawn from his election finances ? I'll look it up, but his attorney is in jail, and he would be as well, if he were not potUS.
Trump supporters and defenders have to just accept, and get used to the fact, that when this Drunken Midget Raping farm animal inverted perverted circus act is concluded, and the TRUTH finally comes out, they are going to remain in Denile, ore, feel extremely used and STUPID, but, if you're interested, i can get you some border wall built cheap, just GO FUnD ME, cause those donater's shore a pier moore smarter than the average Joe, Know ?
Personally, I hope Trump just hurries up and hands said paperwork over. I'm sick of the drama and BS on both sides. If Vance and company find nothing just be done with it and quit wasting the time and money of the American taxpayer. If they do find something, so something about it post haste and get on with it. This has been drug out far too long and the American public is tired of it!
Yes, really, tRumpturd, has dragged this out for almost four years now. I think it should be made a requirement to run for president. You should have to submit your taxes.
I agree with you in that it should be a requirement for future elections, but it is and was not required in previous presidential elections as in 2016 and beyond.
All other presidents submitted theirs even though it wasn't required.
Wonder why tRump hasn't? Hmmmm. . . . . . . .
Honestly I don't have answer on that. All I know is that it was not required by law. I guess it just never really became a issue until this past election.
It was never an issue. tRump made it an issue. Most know why. . . just won't admit it.
And you all are throwing temper tantrums because Trump hasn't.
FFS quit your fucking crying and move on already. Your conspiracy theory that Trump was taking money from Russia failed and yet you STILL push this facade.
You don't think that the previous administration hadn't looked into this like they did other's that went against them? If there were something even REMOTELY questionable they would have released it.
No YOU'RE not.
I know exactly why you're here.
I won't waste my time.
Yes I am interested in what you think the reasons are............if you're talking to me. Or, in the words of an NT sage
"Some just parrot what their moron buddies post."
Yes I am truly interested in what you think the reveal would accomplish.