Videos show conservative activists cheering on voter suppression: 'We need to stop those ballots from going out'

  

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Via:  tessylo  •  2 weeks ago  •  65 comments

By:   Kathryn Krawczyk, The Week

Videos show conservative activists cheering on voter suppression: 'We need to stop those ballots from going out'

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Videos show conservative activists cheering on voter suppression: 'We need to stop those ballots from going out'






Kathryn Krawczyk






Wed, October 14, 2020, 3:13 PM EDT










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When conservatives gathered behind closed doors for conferences of the right-wing Council for National Policy, their talks had a common theme: Voter suppression.

Conservatives met for three days in February and another three in August, maskless regardless of Virginia state policies, to discuss election strategies and other goals,   The Washington Post   reports . One August speaker was Charlie Kirk, the founder of the college conservative group Turning Point USA. At one point, Kirk pinned college campus shutdowns on Democrats, and then called those purported decisions a "very foolish thing" because it's going to lose them opportunities to "harvest" left-leaning college students' votes,   video of the event obtained by the   Post   reveals . "Please, keep the campuses closed, it's a great thing," he said.

Tom Fitton, president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, was more explicit. He alleged Democrats were "war-gaming" a plan to make House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) president, and used that as a call for conservative action against mail-in ballots. "We need to stop those ballots from going out, and I want the lawyers here to tell us what to do," Fitton said in video obtained by the   Post . J. Christian Adams, a former Justice Department official, meanwhile told attendees to oppose mail-in voting and "be not afraid of the accusations that you're a voter suppressor, you're a racist and so forth."




Read more about what CNP attendees had to say about voting at   The Washington Post .









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Tessylo
1  seeder  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

These 'conservatives' know that when we all vote, THEY LOSE.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 weeks ago

So are you saying the reason the Dems can't win elections is because they can't get out the vote?

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 weeks ago

always amazes me when that tired line is trotted out.

do people not vote in elections democrats lose?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 weeks ago

That's why they love them some armchair "I don't even have to get off the couch" pandering so they aren't inconveeeeeenienced

 
 
 
JBB
1.1.3  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 weeks ago

Yet, the gop lost the 2018 midterm elections by the largest popular vote margin in all US history!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 weeks ago
So are you saying the reason the Dems can't win elections is because they can't get out the vote?

I know you're trying to turn that statement into meaning something it doesn't, but it is true.  What's also true is that the higher the number of voters, the more Democrats win, this is why Republicans try so much for voter suppression.

Republicans use fear mongering to get out the voters (they're coming to take your guns).

Democrats use no such dramatic steps to lie and encourage voting.  However 2 years ago, and this year, Trump is motivating more people to vote than ever before based on early voting numbers.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    2 weeks ago
Democrats use no such dramatic steps to lie and encourage voting.  However 2 years ago, and this year,

Yep. Those damned Republicans claiming the ACA will be overturned, abortion overturned, we won't have insurance, the virus is going to kill us all, ................/s

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.6  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

Trump says Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote

President dismissed Democratic-led push for voter reforms amid coronavirus pandemic during Fox & Friends appearance

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.7  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Trump Again Admits Republicans Will Lose in 2020 if States Expand Mail-in Voting

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President  Donald Trump  on Monday erroneously accused Nevada’s governor of unlawfully seizing power after the legislature passed a bill over the weekend that will send all active voters in the state mail-in ballots. He promised to challenge the state measure in court. The president also – for at least the  second time  in recent months – openly admitted that increasing access to voting ahead of the 2020 election will virtually ensure Republicans are defeated at the polls.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.1.8  r.t..b...  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    2 weeks ago

If there is anything held sacred in a functional democracy, it is encouraging the vote.

That we still see only a fraction of those eligible actually casting a ballot says we have already systemically failed. That there are purely partisan motivations to magnify that discrepancy is a harbinger of the dangers of fomenting not partisan policy, but continued apathy.

It is apathy that will eventually destroy this great experiment, as it’s growth is an even greater threat than any conspiracy theory, any divisive invective, or any short-term gains self-servingly promised during any election cycle. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.5    2 weeks ago
Those damned Republicans claiming the ACA will be overturned

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.5    2 weeks ago
Yep. Those damned Republicans claiming............ abortion overturned

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.5    2 weeks ago
Yep. Those damned Republicans claiming................. we won't have insurance

See the 1st video I posted.  Insurance and ACA are the same.  You seemed confused about that fact, glad I could help.

Yep. Those damned Republicans claiming...................the virus is going to kill us all

Trump said he knew virus was deadly

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.9    2 weeks ago
Trump administration asks Supreme Court to invalidate Obamacare

“No further analysis is necessary; once the individual mandate and the guaranteed-issue and community-rating provisions are invalidated, the remainder of the ACA cannot survive,”

We heard that and it was the basis for the mandate portion. Those who didn't want insurance were fined to make up for the fictional shortfalls that would be caused by those healthy people not opting in. It was the basis for its success 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.10    2 weeks ago
Trump Says He'll Appoint Justices Who Will Overturn Roe v. Wade

In 2016............jrSmiley_76_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Yep. Those damned Republicans claiming the ACA will be overturned, abortion overturned, we won't have insurance, the virus is going to kill us all, ................/s

How do you call it "fear mongering" when they are just repeating Republican statements???

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.15  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.11    2 weeks ago

Not confused at all..................I know the difference. It is mostly those on the left side of the aisle who like to call it Health Care. Isn't now, never was. It's always been about insurance. You see that is why that "will be denied healthcare" shtick didn't resonate any farther than it did. One can still get Healthcare without the ACA mandate. Just more expensive to do so

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.16  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.14    2 weeks ago

It's what the left seems to be doing with the topics I posted

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.17  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.15    2 weeks ago
One can still get Healthcare without the ACA mandate. Just more expensive to do so

Prior to the PPACA over 40,000 Americans were dying every year because they couldn't afford insurance.  And you're fine with that....

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.7    2 weeks ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.19  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.17    2 weeks ago

Source?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1.20  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Maybe you like to joke about people losing their medical coverage in the middle of a pandemic that has taken the lives of over 215,000 Americans, but civic minded Americans don't.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.21  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.20    2 weeks ago

Where's the joke you're seeing? And who is losing coverage?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1.22  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.21    2 weeks ago

You are by adding your "/s" on your comment in 1.15.  

And if Trump and his supporters (like you) get their wish in the upcoming SCOTUS hearing, 20 million Americans will lose their medical coverage.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.22    2 weeks ago

Isn't going to happen.......just like this

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And like me my ass. You're assuming I want to see it gone. Take is to someone else.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.24  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.19    2 weeks ago
 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.25  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.24    2 weeks ago

I knew you'd use that one.

"It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually."

What was the estimate about the China flu again? Oh and, believe it or not, NC recorded its first "seasonal flu" death yesterday. The bad season is underway sadly.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.26  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.25    2 weeks ago
I knew you'd use that one.

Well are you smart.....jrSmiley_103_smiley_image.jpg

" It  estimated  that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually."

Correct.  

What was the  estimate  about the China flu again? Oh and, believe it or not, NC recorded its first "seasonal flu" death yesterday. The bad season is underway sadly.

And straight to a deflection. [ deleted ]

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.27  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.26    2 weeks ago

Just pointing out that "estimates" are subjective. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.28  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.27    2 weeks ago

Just pointing out that "estimates" are subjective. 

Obviously!  However if you want to dispute the "estimates", you provide counter information. 

You can link to the study and see how they came up with their "estimate", yet you provide no evidence that disputes their study.  Their "estimated" number of deaths is just as likely to be under the actual number as over it.

So if you want to dispute the study, provide links to other, equally researched, studies to do so.  Otherwise it is only your opinion and the study, which actually researched evidence, out weighs your personal opinion.

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.29  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Jim, the GOP platform specifically states that they want to confirm Judges that will overturn Obergefell, Roe and the ACA. Are you claiming that we shouldn't take them at their word? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.30  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.28    2 weeks ago
Their "estimated" number of deaths is just as likely to be under the actual number as over it.

and you just shit on your own premise.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.31  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @1.1.29    2 weeks ago

Yep....why would you start now?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.32  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.30    2 weeks ago
and you just shit on your own premise.

How so?  Can you provide EXACT numbers based on a theory???  The better the research, the closer they get to the actual numbers.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.33  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.32    2 weeks ago
is just as likely to be under the actual number as over it.

While they may be closer than farther away, you just provided skepticism.........on any opinion.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1.35  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.23    2 weeks ago

I don't have to assume anything Jim..... You made the statement.... Own it!

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.36  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.31    2 weeks ago
Yep....why would you start now?

So your posit is that the principles set forth by the platform of your party are merely gaslighting?  

I guess that makes sense since none of the lies put forth by any of them seem to bother y'all. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.1.37  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.35    2 weeks ago

What statement would that be that got you all worked up?

Thanks in advance

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1.38  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.37    2 weeks ago
Yep. Those damned Republicans claiming the ACA will be overturned, abortion overturned, we won't have insurance, the virus is going to kill us all, ................/s

Let's just get to the nuts and bolts of it Jim...... Do you want Trump, and the GOP to invalidate the ACA through the SCOTUS... Yes or No?

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.1.39  Texan1211  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.38    2 weeks ago

the GOP isn't able to invalidate ACA. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1.40  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.39    2 weeks ago

You missed the last part of the sentence....... "through the SCOTUS..."

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.41  Ozzwald  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.40    2 weeks ago

You missed the last part of the sentence....... "through the SCOTUS..."

No he didn't miss it, he avoided it.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1.42  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.41    2 weeks ago

he avoided it.

Just like the GOP's promised replacement for the ACA..... avoided for 10 years...

Just like the Trump promised replacement for the ACA.....  Still avoiding after 4 years....

Just like the check we are suppose to get from Mexico to build the walll....... Still avoiding

Just like Trump to release his tax records..... Still going to court to avoid.

Just like the release of unmasking evidence that would prove Obama, Clinton, and Biden were guilty...... Oh, wait.

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.1.43  Texan1211  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.40    2 weeks ago

didn't miss anything..if the court strikes it down that isn't the gop.

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.1.44  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.41    2 weeks ago

bullfuckingshit

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.45  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.43    2 weeks ago

WHO is it then Tex?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.46  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.44    2 weeks ago
bullfuckingshit

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Texan1211
1.1.47  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @1.1.45    2 weeks ago

If SCOTUS strikes it down...well, I'll let you try to figure it out all by yourself

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1.48  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.47    2 weeks ago

And tell me exactly who is pushing the case to SCOTUS in the first place.....?  We'll let you figure that out all by yourself.

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.1.49  Texan1211  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.48    2 weeks ago

if the court rules, wtf difference does it make?

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.50  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.47    2 weeks ago
If SCOTUS strikes it down...well, I'll let you try to figure it out all by yourself

Deflection seems to be the MO de jour of late for conservatives. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.1.51  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @1.1.50    2 weeks ago

🤪

 
 
 
Dulay
1.1.52  Dulay  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.48    2 weeks ago

You should see the idiots on my Senator's FB page claiming that the GOP has a health care plan already filed. The bill they're talking about is almost entirely amendments to the ACA. These morons can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that if the ACA is repealed by the SCOTUS, there is nothing to amend and therefore the bill is moot. It's like trying to teach an ant astrophysics. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2  Buzz of the Orient    2 weeks ago

I think that anyone who tries to interfere with or suppress voting should be deported to China where they could feel right at home.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    2 weeks ago

The same should apply to voter fraud...as it's practiced by the dastardly Dems

 
 
 
JBB
2.1.1  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 weeks ago

Did Trump's vote fraud commission find any?

NO!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
2.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 weeks ago
The same should apply to voter fraud...as it's practiced by the dastardly Dems

Like North Carolina?

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 weeks ago

Republicans know that if everyone votes, they lose

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Republicans know that if everyone votes, they lose.

That’s why they have spent 50 years

  • fighting against the Voting Rights Act
  • purging people from voting lists
  • closing precincts in minority neighborhoods
  • enacting restrictive voter ID laws
  • prohibiting felons from voting
  • stopping early voting and mail-in ballots
  • making sure election day isn’t a national holiday
  • killing any bill designed to prevent Russian interference
  • making sure no paper ballots are used
  • getting rid of election finance laws
  • fighting agai nst abolishing the electoral college
  • promoting gerrymandering
 
 
 
Thrawn 31
2.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 weeks ago

Examples? And I want some that amount to more than .000001% of ballots cast, it needs to be statistically significant, not a number you just round off because there is no point in even including it. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

The idea that Republicans would never try and cheat but Democrats would was always absurd.    Cheating is a human condition and I would never rule it out, but if the state election boards do their job there will be little of it.  People like Charlie Kirk and Ralph whats his face the Christian fanatic are completely untrustworthy. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago
The idea that Republicans would never try and cheat but Democrats would was always absurd. 

And vice versa.......................................

Cheating is a human condition and I would never rule it out

Good on ya

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1    2 weeks ago
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Thrawn 31
3.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  JohnRussell @3    2 weeks ago

And there is very little of it because our public servants that oversee the elections are honest, hard working people just trying to do their jobs and do them right (99.99% of the time, there is always that one...)

The amount of verifiable voter fraud in the US is so small it isn't even worth acknowledging. Honestly, tracking down the one one-millionth of a percent of fraudulent ballots is almost a waste of government resources. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
4  FLYNAVY1    2 weeks ago

Don't democrats want some Scouts decisions overturned?

Like Citizens United..... Yes, and if I recall, you want that one overturned as well.

 
 
 
Ender
5  Ender    2 weeks ago
meanwhile told attendees to oppose mail-in voting and "be not afraid of the accusations that you're a voter suppressor, you're a racist and so forth.

So in other words, get out there and oppose mail in voting and when people tell you that is voter suppression, act dumb and say nuh uh....

 
 
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