Presidential debate: Live coverage and fact check
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Via: jbb • 4 years ago • 297 commentsBy: Meg Wagner, Kyle Blaine, Jessica Estepa, Melissa Macaya and Fernando Alfonso III (CNN)
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By Meg Wagner, Kyle Blaine, Jessica Estepa, Melissa Macaya and Fernando Alfonso III, CNN
Updated 8:44 PM ET, Thu October 22, 2020 18 Posts Sort byLatestOldestDropdown arrow 2 min ago
Trump has arrived at the debate site
President Trump's motorcade has arrived at Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee, for his final debate with Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.
The debate begins at 9 p.m. ET.
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Where Biden and Trump stand in CNN's poll of polls
The CNN Poll of Polls tracks the average poll result in the race for president between President Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.
The poll of polls includes the most recent polls that meet CNN's CNN's standards for reporting and that measure the views of registered or likely voters. The poll of polls does not have a margin of sampling error.
Here's where the candidates stand as of today in the polling average:
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Here's why GOP senators are also bracing for tonight's debate
From CNN's Jeff Zeleny
It's not just the race for the White House that Republicans are anxious about - it's holding onto their Senate majority.
The first debate caused heartburn for senators locked in tight contests across the country.
Since then, a handful have gently sought to distance themselves from President Trump - hoping to do what they can to prevent significant defeats down-ballot.
If tonight's debate is a repeat of the first one, watch for even more senators to join that chorus - and begin making the case that a Republican Senate is needed as a check on a potential Joe Biden presidency.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has told his GOP senators to do whatever they think is best - even making that point.
Of course, it's an open question whether such an argument would work at this late stage of the campaign.
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The debate is less than 1 hour away. Here's what you need to know about tonight's showdown.
From CNN's Kate Sullivan
Less than two weeks from Election Day, Joe Biden and President Trump are scheduled to appear onstage ge 9:00 p.m. ET for the final general election presidential debate of 2020.
The televised event may be the last opportunity for both candidates to reach a massive national audience before Nov. 3.
Here's everything you need to know about the final debate:
- The location : The debate will take place at Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee. It is scheduled to run from 9 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. ET without commercial breaks.
- The topics : Debate moderator, NBC's Kristen Welker, will bring six topics: "Fighting COVID-19," "American Families," "Race in America," "Climate Change," "National Security" and "Leadership."
- The debate structure : Each segment will last about 15 minutes, and the candidates will have two minutes to respond after the moderator opens each segment with a question. Welker will then use the rest of the time in the segment to facilitate further discussion on the topic.
- How this debate is different : The Commission on Presidential Debates recently announced that Biden and Trump would have their microphones muted during portions of the debate. At the start of each of the six segments, each candidate will be given two minutes to answer an initial question, and during that portion, the opposing candidate's microphone will be muted. The rule change was made after the first debate devolved into chaos, with Trump frequently interrupting and heckling Biden and the moderator, Chris Wallace of Fox News.
- How to watch and follow : The debate will air live on CNN, CNN en Espanol and CNN International. It will stream live in its entirety, without requiring log-in to a cable provider, on CNN.com's homepage, across mobile devices via CNN's apps for iOS and Android, and via CNNgo apps for Apple TV, Roku, Amazon Fire, Chromecast and Android TV. You can also follow CNN's live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking.
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This could be one of Biden's biggest challenges tonight
From CNN's Arlette Saenz
Joe Biden's messaging for the past several months has been consistent - focusing on the coronavirus pandemic and the economy as he's tried to turn the election into a referendum of President Trump's handling of the crisis.
It's a contrast to the President, who has waged multiple lines of attacks on Biden to try to find something that will stick.
One of the challenges for Biden tonight is to not get bogged down in the directions President Trump might try to take this debate - including those personal attacks on his family.
One tactic Biden used during that first debate that he's expected to repeat again tonight is looking directly into camera as he makes his case.
These were moments that the Biden campaign feels worked well for Biden last time around as he looked to connect with voters at home.
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Campaign advisers say Trump needs a breakout moment tonight
From CNN's Jim Acosta
Campaign advisers tell CNN they now believe it was a huge mistake for President Trump to cancel on last week's debate, making a breakout moment a must tonight to shake up the race.
One adviser said Trump needs a "leadership moment" at the debate as Joe Biden is now seen as the front runner heading into the final stretch of this campaign.
A crucial focus for Trump tonight is to reach out to male voters, as advisers worry men — once a key demographic strength for Trump — may be slipping away from the President, as have suburban women and elderly voters.
Another adviser said if Trump fails in his mission tonight, watch for the President to become increasingly desperate in the final days of this campaign.
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Here's what the inside of the debate hall looks like
President Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden will debate soon in Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee.
Both campaigns agreed that the plexiglass that was once up in the debate hall was not needed and should be taken down, Frank Fahrenkopf, head of the debate commission, told CNN.
Fahrenkopf told CNN earlier today that the plexiglass was put up at the recommendation of the medical advisers on the ground.
The commission also released some additional key details about tonight's debate, via pool:
- The lecterns are 12' 8" center to center from candidate to candidate.
- The lecterns and the moderator's desk are about 16' 8" apart.
- Masks are required for everyone at all times and anyone who doesn't oblige will be asked to leave. Also, everyone within the perimeter, and therefore any debate-related area, will be tested.
- The first question will go to President Trump, and he will have the first two minutes of uninterrupted time.
- Biden will then get the same question, and he will have two minutes of uninterrupted time.
Here's what the inside of the debate hall looks like:
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What the road to the presidency looks like for both candidates
From CNN's Aditi Sangal
It takes at least 270 electoral votes for a presidential candidate to win the election.
CNN's John King takes a look at the states that are going to be key in former vice president Joe Biden and President Trump's possible paths to victory.
Watch:
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Trump and Biden's final debate starts soon. Here are key things to watch for.
From CNN's Gregory Krieg, Eric Bradner and Dan Merica
President Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden will face off shortly for their final presidential debate before the election.
The second debate, scheduled for last week, was canceled after the President tested positive for the coronavirus and subsequently refused to take part in a virtual meeting.
The Commission on Presidential Debates has given the green light to an in-person face-off, but with one unprecedented change: The candidates will have their microphones cut off while their opponents respond to the first question of each of the debate's six segments.
The topics slated for discussion over 90 uninterrupted minutes, beginning at 9 p.m. ET, include "Fighting COVID-19," "American Families," "Race in America," "Climate Change," "National Security" and "Leadership."
But that's just where the moderator, NBC's Kristen Welker, will begin. Where the candidates go from there, especially in Trump's case, is the wild card.
Here are five things to watch in the debate:
- Debate rules: In order to enforce the debate's rule, the commission has resorted to something familiar to a country operating by video conferences: The mute button. But there are questions over how effective the new guardrails will really be. Trump and his allies have been teeing up his plans to attack Welker and the commission by flouting the rules wherever they can. How Trump executes that strategy could provide the voters who haven't already cast a ballot with their last memory of the President before they make a decision.
- How Trump handles coronavirus questions: Trump wants to avoid the constant drumbeat of coronavirus news. Surging numbers across the country — including swing states central to his victory — make that impossible. Coronavirus remains the most important issue in the minds of voters. How Trump handles questions about the issue will have significant implications in this election.
- Biden tries to pass one more test: Thursday night's debate is effectively the last major hurdle that must be cleared by Biden, a candidate who — despite his reputation for gaffes, and some minor stumbles along the way — has largely stuck to the same message since launching his campaign in April 2019. If Biden emerges largely unscathed tonight, he'll likely have successfully weathered every key moment with the potential to alter the dynamics of a presidential race polls show he is winning.
- How Biden handles personal attacks: In the alternate universe of right-wing media, Biden is currently embroiled in scandal — most of it focusing on unproven allegations about his son Hunter Biden. There's also a bogus "Obamagate" conspiracy theory that Trump has promoted, despite its underpinnings all having been knocked down in the real world. None of it seems to have moved voters who aren't already part of Trump's base, and attacking Biden's surviving son could also backfire. But Trump is sure to try to use it all to attack Biden — a candidate who has at times flashed a temper.
- Who will they direct their closing statements to? With the beginning of early in-person voting and millions of American casting their ballots by mail, the number of undecided voters still up for grabs is likely much smaller than it was just a few weeks ago. Even in more conventional circumstances, debates are as much about narrowcasting your message to potential supporters as they are about "winning" the argument on a given issue.
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Trump has arrived at the venue so we begin shortly.
Did they let him out of his straitjacket yet?
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OK kiddies-- its time for another NT Pop Quiz!
Just one question:
How many of us click on an Instagram link posted by MAGA when we see one?
I will as soon as I get off the phone about the Social Security administration cancelling my account..../s
Are you ready for this?
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He's lying already.
He's been congratulated by many other countries for his Covid plan?
Trump's gonna make a lot of faces tonight.
He just started waving his hands around. That means he's getting flustered already.
Yes, and every one of them will be ugly or stupid!
What exactly is that "plan", let over 200,000 Americans die
"Okay, so you guys have told me how deadly this thing is and that it's airborne and easily spread and far worse than the flu, so here's the plan... I'll wait another month and a half to even acknowledge it exists and then tell the people it's really no big deal, no worse than the flu, no one needs to wear masks or social distance cause that's for weaklings and it will just disappear like a miracle by April... If anybody dies I'll blame it on Democrat Governors... Everybody on board? Okay, Let's do this thing..."...
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I have found trumps covid plan.
I hate to say it, but Trump seems to have the mindset of a simpleton.
Simpletons of America contest that comparison!
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And they use instagram to do it!
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Just read that Instagram users are mostly Russian bots.
He is giving his "confidence" answer to the coronavirus vaccine! Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!
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I rest my case.
Joe made a lot of money some place? Trump, you suck!
What ever. Trump loses money on everything he touches. Except the illegal stuff maybe.
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Where did you come from? How did you get here?
Where did you come from? How did you get here?
Instagram sent him!
I think that was Trump's first, albeit vague, reference to the hogwash about Biden illegally profiting from China and Ukraine. He was more explicit about it several comments later.
I wish that Biden had this information. Today the US had in excess 70,000 new COVID cases.
As of a few minutes ago, it was 74,043 with 970 deaths.
I wish that Biden had this information. Today the US had in excess 70,000 new COVID cases.
As of a few minutes ago, it was 74,043 with 970 deaths.
From the beginning, Trump downplayed COVID.
And when's he's forced to mention it, he pretends it isn't serious, and that's its "under control" (thanks to his efforts, natch). And anyway, not to worry-- we will have a Vaccine by last Easter!
A/noon Kavika...Was fair spewing here yesterday at lunch time..Sit down with my Vegemite sanga for lunch and thought I would watch some TV..Turn it on and what do I cop..5 flaming TV channels televising the "debate"..I nearly chocked on my sanga and pushed the TV on to the floor...Could not believe it..What our fascination is for this debacle I have no idea..It was more than a Koala could bare..Geez I hope our mob never get this bad..but fear the worst..
He can't lock himself up in the basement, he has to have a rally every day.
Kristen Welker is fact-checking the candidates! Wooo-hooo!
Trump just said he would like to go away for a year.
That's not long enough but it would be a good start.
HA!
He would like to hide in a basement...Like he did during the protests? Haha
I swear, donald can talk and talk and talk, without really saying anything...
I am immune and it is going to go away...
He is delusional...
"Shut down the virus, not the country!" - Joe Biden.
I'm watching it without the sound on and orange conman looks constipated
Metamucil is orange, too...
No. His girdle is to tight.
He just lied about blue states being the worst about controlling the virus. BULLSHIT! 8 of 9 of the upward trending states are red states.
Yep. Look at SD.
donald acting like his family catching the virus was a good thing.
Saying kids have great immune systems and it will go away...
Tell that to the families of kids that died.
These are the stats for Florida through yesterday.
Pediatrics:
Cases: 65,340
Admitted to an ER: 4,385
In-patient admissions to a hospital: 825
Pediatric Deaths: 9
God his voice gets on my nerves...
Gonna have to turn it off. I just want to smack him.
He could make freight trains turn around and take a dirt road just to avoid coming face to face with him.
Too funny!
The secret service would pay me a visit if I ever typed exactly how I feel about Trump.
"I don't know look at this as blue states and red states like he (Trump), they're all the United States." — J. Biden.
Trump says, "We have to protect our seniors."
Really, Donald? Really you are a senior and you are not a "senior protector"?
Somebody get him on the phone and tell him to slap himself.
HA!
Here we go with the Dr. Fauci Attack Move.
Trump is getting agitated.
I will give Donald some maintenance of composure, but Joe just hit him with the Russia-Giuliani card!
Here we go. . . 3 1/2 million dollars to Joe? (Scandalous).
A few thumbs up would help to keep this up front.
And here we go with the 'Nobody's tougher on Russia than me!' ploy.
And yet Russia is supporting Donald during the election! Go figure.
Joe B., has not taken money from a single country. And hitting the Trump tax returns. What are you hiden-Donald in those tax returns? A new China golf course? Does China support Donald too?
And there it is ... I’m under audit
As soon as the audit is over...
And there it is ... I’m under audit
I've heard him Trump more than once that you aren't allowed to release taxes while under audit.
Once Warren Buffet (one of the richest people in the world) commented that he is frequently under audit-- and occasionally, while under audit, he's made his taxes public. Because that's perfectly legal.
I'm going to release my tax returns soon. Oh MY GOD! He just said he prepaid his taxes in China.
Trump is a CONFIDENCE man. He lies to get what he wants.
Oh MY GOD! He just said he prepaid his taxes in China.
I thought trump feels that the Chinese are "the bad guys"??? So we should not do business with them?
Oh MY GOD! He just said he prepaid his taxes in China.
I thought trump feels that the Chinese are "the bad guys"??? So we should not do business with them?
OTOH, isn't trump helping to support the Chinese economy by putting money into his bank there?
Now Trump is throwing out innuendo on Joe's son.
That makes me sick. He needs to STFU about that right now.
His kids are the biggest grifters around...
Too right! Notice how Biden is not bringing up Trump's children.
He said the best thing ever earlier. He said it's not about his family, and it's not about Trump's family. He looked directly into the camera and said it's about everyone's families.
An important distinction, Sister! Well on you for pushing this out for thought!
Okay, the "Witch hunt" spying card? It's on the table!
Now comes the self pity and baseless accusations.
Someone tell him he's President of the United States
Okay, Kristen just bought the 'monkey' on Hunter Biden! And Joe is "dealing with it in real-time." Get there now!
Donald says he listed his China bank account, but isn't it a "secret"? And Trump is repeating the slander on Joe's son. But of course only Trump 'sycophants' care.
Trump: A noun, a verb, and China.
Trump doesn't always tell the truth, to put it nicely...
Trump is "scandalous."
When is Biden going to start showing dementia? We don't have all night here.
He must have left it in his other suit.
Biden didn't need a commercial break, I did! Biden put that 'pony' to shed!
Joe is turning the 'tide' to the people!!!! Donald wants to diss the people (sitting around kitchen tables). People are watching this, Donald!
Donald...
How is China paying for farmers when they had a taxpayer funded bailout...
Americans pay all the tariffs Trump put on goods!
not if we don't buy their stuff
Easier said than done when someone wants a new flat screen tv.
Any Tariffs Trump imposes are taxes which Americans must pay on imported goods...
Buy it somewhere else
Try doing that.
Where?
not if we don't buy their stuff
Do Republicans buy their stuff-- or only Democrats?
Ender!!! What is this???!!!!!!!!
I’d like to terminate Obamacare and then figure out an impossible replacement after a ton of sick people die.
- D. Trump
On healthcare Trump sounds unhinged. He doesn't have a plan yet? When is going to show us his plan?
After saying they had a plan all along...
Trump has been lying all along...
So have been the republicans. They never had any plan.
Those Bastard! It is no wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the damn gop...
Oh my goodness, the unveiling: The Biden Plan!
As soon as the 'audit' is done on his taxes. ( Which have been under audit since 1714. )
Run Obamacare as well as they can?
He is totally delusional...
Come up with new healthcare?
What happened to the plan they already had?
That big empty book?
Nice echo chamber. Have fun guys
No one stopped you from speaking did they?
Join the conversation. No one is excluding you.
There is no conversation - only the typical redundancy.
But we're having loads of fun. Join us.
Maybe having something to say is a necessity.
There is no conversation - only the typical redundancy.
I dunno-- occasionally there's been some atypical redundancy!
(Well, maybe only once, but still)
See ya later. Holla!
True. There ought to be clowns. Send in the clowns!
You can always join Vic's echo chamber, maybe you will feel more at home.
I was just over there and is was kind of sad.
There was an echo though it was only Vic's...
Does Trump eat Russian Dressing on his word salad?
That people buy his bull is amazing...
He offers nothing but stupid rhetoric.
Nah. He gets more from the Saudis. Sand Dressing.
Biden called Donald, "A very confused guy, who thinks he is running against someone else-Bernie Sanders."
That's' funky'!
Bidencare , Joe said $750 Billion
That eas how much richer the rich got during Covid.
donald is all projection. The republicans have been the ones trying to harm SS and Medicare...
A public option would not harm those, idiotic.
He has no plan, acting like he knows what to do...
It's Nancy Pelosi's fault. And there we have it.
And bad Democrat run states....
Nancy heard that! She will have her say in the Friday AM.
It's Nancy Pelosi's fault. And there we have it.
Well, this I can tell you, "many people are saying" that Nancy Pelosi is a Bolshevic, I can tell you that!
Biden just 'unloaded' on the red-state only President! Joe just hit his second wave!
That is how he keeps power, by division.
Biden just made a good point about the debt and covid. The states need money because they cannot carry the debt because they have to balance the budget or because they have too much debt already. The federal government can carry unlimited debt.
Over 500 children still want their parents, and Trump says 'we have 500 miles of a beautiful wall'. What a skank of a man.
their parents broke our laws and are guilty of child abuse by doing so
their parents broke our laws and are guilty of child abuse by doing so
Well, that's one way of looking at it.
Two questions:
What laws did the kids break?
At the close of that section: Trump say it is "Good" that 500 children do not have their parents. BAD FORM!
That is an ad.
And the Trump "spin room" vomited in their mouths. Damage control squad in here now!
The Good was directed at Joe, He was looking right at him
You're mistaken. The statement stands.
I think you are mistaken, it was obviously directed at Joe
It was Trump responding to Joe saying 500 kids are lost in Trump's immigration system.
"GOOD"...
No, you may be mistaken. But you can review it later. I was looking at the television when it occurred. Easy to find, because it was at the tail tip of the section.
I saw it
Thank you!
"Good." I thought I heard that too. If it is true------------the next few days may be especially long for the Trump 2020 Klan.
No he didn't, he said 400 miles of wall. LOL
Sorry Sister. Buzz got it right on that one.
Aw shucks!
The other hundred miles of wall blew over after being assaulted by a mild breeze.
(Smile.)
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Sorry. No thumbs. Can't open it. Help!
These debates should have been two hours. 1 1/2 hours is not enough time and they are barely scratching some of these topics.
We can only take so much of this, John! (Although, it is pretty good and moving at a fast clip, if I do say so myself.)
Kristen is doing a good job on all accounts. I like her work here (7:05 PM PST).
She is patient.
She is strong too.
Who cares if your parents disappeared when you’re a child with a clean place to stay?
Trump 'abandoned" these children from their parennts in question! There parents didn't abandon them. Trump did it!
It doesn't matter if some were raped or maybe given a forced hysterectomy...
That’s part of Trump’s healthcare plan - free hysterectomies for brown people.
Who cares if your parents disappeared when you’re a child with a clean place to stay?
Well, many people are saying that those kids deserve it because their parents broke the law.
Joe, "We have 500 kids we can't find their parents".
Trump, "GOOD!"
That's an ad, Joe!
What a monster. That was not a question...
Trump lied about "catch and release" return rates.
He lies and blames and points his finger.
His tiny, little finger.
Trump leads the world when it comes to blaming anyone but himself. "The Buck Stops Elsewhere".
And yet Trump creates another peace deal between Israel and a majority Arab nation....
Curious. These peace agreements reached in 'haste' can they be long for this world? I hope so, but I don't know.
By the way or you sure Donald is accomplishing this or are these nations taking advantage of the "nearly out of business' Sale possibility to get in under the wire? Also, I have a 'word' for you--Israel will find it harder to maintain these friends once the 'trading' starts. (Friendships require a 'pound' of trust which can not be squandered.)
Yet, I wish all these middle east nations well and smooth goings.
(There are two "scenarios" stuck in my heart which I shall not bring up about this subject here.)
And the benefit of that for the average American voter is..............?
Trump Lied? Holy crackers. What will the small 'c' christians think now?
Trump Lied? Holy crackers. What will the small 'c' christians think now?
Well, he didn't steal, or commit adultery...and no pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath from The Donald!
So no wonder those so-called "Christians" admire him.
For more information about those so-called "Christians" you can always consult Instagram (If you dare!!!)
Well, he didn't steal, or commit adultery...and no pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath from The Donald!
Although I can tell you that many people are saying he does in many ways resemble a Sloth (no insult to Sloths intended).
Friend Krishna, why so cryptic? What should we know about Instagram and MAGA? Inform us. Make it plain. (Smile.)
Joe certainly does not seem addled... next to Trump!
Donald Trump is breaking protocol! Throwing out scandalous laptop from Russian propaganda. And Kristen stepped on it!
Kristen Welker is doing a fantastic job, as expected.
Trump helped black people maybe even more than Lincoln. [Deleted]
No way! Trump is a racist dog whistle on race, Lincoln didn't whistle.
Trump helped black people maybe even more than Lincoln.
Possibly even more than David Duke (which is probably Duke and the people in his organization supported Trump so strongly!):
David Duke has reiterated his support for Donald Trump’s re-election campaign. and suggested the president replace his current vice president, Mike Pence, with Fox News host Tucker Carlson.
In a series of tweets late on Wednesday night, he wrote that “Trump & Tucker is the only way to stop the commie Bolsheviks! It is the only path to beat them!
Bolsheviks? And here all along I had mistakenly though that Barak Obama and Joe Biden were not Bolsheviks but actually... Trotskyites!!!
Well, I suppose the good news is that that wasn't posted on Instagram (after all, nobody much reads that site anymore. Instagram is run by a bunch of losers....compleat losers, I tell you!!!)
Pardon the typos, just worked a grueling 10 hour day!
Now he thinks he has done more for race relations than any other president since maybe Abraham Lincoln...
Has he even looked out of his window during this year?
Like happens with all liars, no one can tell what parts of what Trump says can be believed.
That's pretty easy. Nothing.
To be fair, Trump is 'hanging' in there though. And now Trump is on his 'turf' and hitting a stride on this criminal justice side of things.
And now Trump is on his 'turf' and hitting a stride on this criminal justice side of things.
Yes he likes to talk about that-- when it suits his purposes. But the fact is he later regretted doing it after being "talked into it"-- which he later admitted:
Trump regrets Kushner advice on prison reform
None.
I ran because of you...Bullshit.
He ran because he couldn't stand the Black man in the office.
Yeah, I said it.
That, and as a PR campaign for his failing business.
What is interesting is the moderator, Kristen Welker is Native American and Black. Just waiting for Trump to insult her. Naw what am I thinking he doesn't have the balls to do it to her face, he'll wait until after the debate is over than attack via Twitter.
Yep. How that woman would dare to treat him so bad, etc...
You said it!
It all goes back to that Press Club dinner where Obama slayed him.
Biden blithely lies about the 5 million people who lost their healthcare under the ACA a and not one lefty cared.
Trump lies about everything all the time and the rightys love it.
And Trump blithely lies that we're turning the corner on COVID. Today the US had 74,000 new COVID cases.
WTF corner is Trump looking at?
That was one of his numerous low points.
And Trump blithely lies that we're turning the corner on COVID. Today the US had 74,000 new COVID cases.
WTF corner is Trump looking at?
I have always wondered why he lies so persistently.
And now i think its because his "Base" never questions anything he says...not matter how absurd.
(In many ways Trump has created a "cult" of devoted followers ... not all his supporters but many of them remind me of Jim Jones... and his cult members that drank the Kool-Aid)
Poor Boys ... snicker
I heard it too. (Chuckles.) My guy, Joe mushed that one. But he is still hitting his marks!
Poor Boys ... snicker
And here all along I'd been thinkin' that a Po Boy was a sandwich!
Trump says he is the best thing since Abe Lincoln.
Springfield Illinois reports a giant humming sound...
Ha!
Is it true that there is a Giant Squid in Lake Michigan too?
Is it true that there is a Giant Squid in Lake Michigan too?
Its only true if Trump says its true! (Otherwise its something "Socialist"!!!)
This was a lot better moderated than the last disaster.
She is an outstanding reporter.
Why is he acting like a vice president has all this power to do anything...
I would ask why Pence has been sitting on his thumbs this whole time.
Talk abut someone that hasn't done a damn thing...
Pence ain't running for President or a part of this debate
Oh yes, Pence is already running for 2024.
Yet he is bringing up what a vice president should be able to do or have done.
So is Tom Cotton, I heard. God help us.
Worst Senator ever.
Trump knows his time is about gone, and he failed!
What the hell is he babbling about regarding the environment? The only thing Scott Pruitt left behind is some stank air and a sound-proof telephone booth worth $31,000.00.
He talks about clean water while he gives a green light to more pollution.
I am surprised shit isn't coming out of his ears.
It's coming out of his mouth.
Joe knows he won asTrump's time has gone byebye!
$100 trillion dollars! Trump doesn't even know what that means.
That’s just a tiny fraction of his (imagined) wealth.
Not a lot of conservatives commenting on Trump’s performance here. Shocking. I guess they too recognize a moron when they see one. Won’t stop them from voting for one though.
I bet NT conservatives are feeling sad about now!
It will be a frosty day in Hell if they would ever admit Trump was wrong about anything.
It's said that it takes a thief to know one, so adapting that logic, it takes a moron to support one.
Trump: "I know more about wind than you do."
Breaking wind, yes...
Well, he is full of hot air.
Trump: "I know more about wind than you do."
Yep.
And its shouldn't come as a surprise, given all he's done for the environment.
In fact Trumps knows more about everything than anybody else (although of course he's much too humble to admit it)
Buzz if you can't view that video, do a search for: "Video, No One Knows More Than Trump" or words to that effect....
Actually there are tons of Trump videos on Tudou here, but not the one you suggest. However if you want to see an incredible video on how Trump totally fucked up on the Coronavirus pandemic, here is the true story, and it is an amazing video.
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And here's one about his supporters.
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Thanks-- excellent video!
BTW I noticed that while you can't access some American sites, the soundtrack on the Chinese site you use has the video posted at the link you supplied, but the soundtrack there is actually in English (they supplied Chinese subtitles on that site).
So I concluded it was not a video made in China, but rather made in the U.S.
After a bit of googling, I found the original post-- on YouTube (in English of course, and no subtitles).
So I will seed it here from where it was originally posted, YouTube..(Its the same exact video).
Done.
I consider myself to be well informed on this subject, but I have to admit I learned a few facts about Trump's incompetent actions that helped create the virus spreading rapidly so early on--. including some of his buffonish actions I previously hadn't known about.
If anyone is interested, its been seeded here:
How Trump Lost Control Of The Coronavirus Pandemic
Thanks-- excellent video!
Actually someone seeded that one here on NT a few months ago. Its HERE
(Comments welcome..and encouraged!!!
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I can not discern if Trump is a racist, because of inconsistencies. To me he appears to be a self-righteous and self-absorbed individual at the center of "Trump." Anything:
Trump = Donald = Trump
That's this man's 'formula.
Donald is that thing in the world that has grown up in a cocoon of its own making, and is now old still cradled in its sheeving/shielding. He enjoys privilege to say whatever the "F" he wishes. His dad left him that 'quality' in life.
He likes whomsoever likes him enough to enter the world of his making—Trump world. He dislikes and dismisses whomsoever doesn't cross his threshold (invited) or takes their exit from Trump world and speaks out against it.
It is an old, well-rehearsed thing the "established" rich and wealthy are known to do: Look down their nose dismissively at those perceived as not measuring up to their standards (when tested) or who are considered beneath them.
"I don't know anything about him or her." - "S/he is a disgruntled individual jealous of my success, power, influence."
Trump maintains deniability in his relationship with others. Only a select group of people are in his inner-circle really As Michael Cohen is evidence of the "inner-sanctum" for friends of Donald Trump being perpetually fluid. Donald always knows that he will lose people who can not or choose not to go the distance with his plans. Then he "disinherits" through denial
It is the same for blacks and other minorities. Such people are mere cogs in the gears of "little people" or "trade people," on the step-stairs to where Donald is striving to end up.
In my opinion, what makes Donald come off as racist in the extreme has to do with this:
Trump needed a grand slam but he just struck out.
Nah. He tripped on the way out of the dugout, fell on his side and the baseball bat he was carrying whacked him in the nose as he made contact with the ground. He never made it to the plate.
Whew! Where is the commercial? I need a 'break'!
Have you noticed that Trump is wearing a much darker shade of orange makeup than usual?
I know this is off topic but did you see McConnell's hands? What is up with that...
Woah...
Mitch is dead inside...
I think he took a fall.
Auto-eroticism?
Been that way for decades.
Este Lauder Orange Crush...
Well, I don't think this will really change anyone's mind.
Agreed.
JOE KICKED ASS!!
That is Future President Biden after this blowout!
To be fair, Sister. Donald did show up with some good shots. I will have to catch Daniel Dale (CNN) fact-checker extraordinaire to see where the 'chips' shake out finally. Now come the 'after-show.' Settle in. This is where all the power lies.
KRISTEN WELKER WON THE WEEK!
There was no comparison between this debate and the last one, which was heinous. Kristen Welker did a great job. Trump has been trolling her all day so he would be able to say, "See? I told you she would be unfair to me!" He's shit out of luck on that one.
I think Kristen Welker was fine, but the calmer debate has nothing to do with her. It has to do with Trump deciding that if he repeated the last debate he would be shoveling dirt on his political grave. He has one foot in the grave and the other one on a banana peel as it is.
True. But Kristen was spot on. She kept the tiger (Trump) and its prey (Biden) on task. Trump tested her with the Hunter laptop 'run at Joe.' Kristen figuratively rounded the table and confronted the question (her own way) with Joe on China. I didn't like it at first. But props to her for doing her part to keep trainin' Donald back in line on the Hunter "action."
Donald even surrendered Kristen Welker a compliment right in the middle of his answer on Fracking:
No need for a stinking recount. Biden won it fairly!
A basically boring debate. Trump played it safe, but it is too late for him.
Jon Karl of ABC says Joe Biden had the best debate of 2020.
Trump acted like Biden is President, and so did Joe...
I think Biden's best segment of the night was on coronavirus. Biden understand that the federal government has to fund the maintenance and recovery of American business and the consumer. Trump just says "open up" , but the federal government needs to fund the "opening up" in a responsible and safe way. That means more rounds of stimulus and money to the states and city governments so that they can keep state and city employees on the job.
But does the American public realize that the stimulus amount proposed by the Democrats is a NECESSITY which is why they refuse to agree with the inadequate figure proposed by the Republicans?
Consensus opinion of ABC pundits is that Biden won.
On the assessment I watched on CTV (Canada Television Network) even the Republican spokesperson admitted Trump blew it.
Trump said something to Kristen Welker after the debate. I wonder what it was. Any lip readers?
I am, but only face to face. I tried, but he was bent over too far for me to get a good read.
Oh, too bad.
Sorry. I tried to read his body language as well, but was unable.
I could read that. His body language said: "I'm a gross pig."
Here we go! The whole debate. Feel free to check the ending. It is still kind of wide-lens on that shot.
Second 2020 Presidential Debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden
What Trump and Biden, both do is basically make one last, "thank you" courtesy to the moderator.
Chuckles. (But no!)
Oh, come on CB! If he walks like a gross pig, and talks like a gross pig, he's a gross pig.
Was it any better than the Eagle's Giants "game?"
Oh jesus, you mean I need to watch another 2 hours of relentless bullshit? God I am stupid... here I go.
I deserve this.
(Chuckles.)
You have got to take your lumps with your humps in this life! (Chuckles.)
Best line of the night?
Biden: "Abraham Lincoln here..."
"He's got a dog whistle as big as a foghorn."
"You know who I am. You know who he is."
Trump: " "
That was the loudest silence ever.
All of you summed up this evening's debate very well. Except of course for the couple of...................well, you know who they are.
Anyway. Trump tried his best to be...........cogent........except he doesn't know how.
Biden did just fine. Stated his case, showed a few contrasts and I believe purposefully just permitted the Trump to be the Trump. Which is of course, the best course.
The star of the debate was Kristen Welker. She is smart, savvy, polished and..........she knows. A bit partisan here but I always liked her--I think she's......very nice.
I have always 'tired' of Kirsten Welker's non-position as an assigned White House reporter. To be honest, I did not know what to expect from her tonight. Though, I have seen her on other debates panel of moderators.
I am impressed that somehow/some way she held these "bulls" to the task at hand. Got them to really recognize that this one is for "all the marbles." And to do good by her and the committee.
Kristen Welker, 'highest marks ever'!
Her WH task is to report. That is all. The dissection is left to others. However, when she is on a panel herself--the girl has thoughts, opinions and ideas. She is a good girl. I like her.
I've admired her intelligence and professionalism for quite a while. I expected her to do an excellent job, and she did.
She did the job as well as could be expected given that she was dealing with motor mouth Trump who refused to adhere to the time rules. Biden finally gave up and did the same as Trump and Trump didn't seem to like it.
Trump tried his best to deflect from the official questions as he did in the first debate, but, Ms Welker held him pretty much to the line. When Biden was able to talk he stuck to the question and got his messages across much better than Trump, who could only try to change the subject every time.
Biden won this debate again straight up.
Fact check: The final 2020 presidential election debate
Oh yeah, they did that tonight didn't they. Huh.
I just watched a Eagles/vs Giants game...
THE WHITE HOUSE JUST ANNOUNCED THAT RUDY WILL HAVE HIS OWN FLOAT IN MACY'S PARADE.
Have to say that one of my favorite quotes of the night was from Trump. Both my wife and I cracked up when he said it.
When Biden was pushing him about not taking responsibility for the virus and the number sick and dead in America, Trump's response was something like:
"Of course I take responsibility, but it's not my fault......"
The best one-line description of the final debate that I've seen was from the editorial board of USA Today:
If Donald Trump's lips are moving - he is lying.