How Trump Lost Control Of The Coronavirus Pandemic
Well, to play the "Many People Are Saying Card" for a moment, I could say that "many people are saying" that what MAGA actually means is
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
How Trump Lost Control Of The Coronavirus Pandemic
The United States has recorded over 200,000 deaths from the COVID-19 pandemic. Months of an uncontained coronavirus pandemic have left the US in far worse shape than other countries, like South Korea. President Donald Trump tested positive for coronavirus on October 2, 2020.
The US practically invented the playbook of how to confront pandemics. Presidents — like George W. Bush and Barack Obama — worked to ensure that if a pandemic came, there would be an effective plan to respond. Yet while other countries used that playbook, and succeeded in doing what was necessary to get the coronavirus under control, the Trump administration threw out the plan.
To help Americans understand precisely what went wrong, Insider hired the comics creators Anthony Del Col and Josh Adams to depict the Trump administration's course of action that put America into this position.
Editor's note: The first person officially diagnosed with coronavirus in South Korea was a 35-year-old Chinese woman, not a South Korean woman as stated in the video. Insider regrets the error.
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The United States has recorded over 200,000 deaths from the COVID-19 pandemic. Months of an uncontained coronavirus pandemic have left the US in far worse shape than other countries, like South Korea. President Donald Trump tested positive for coronavirus on October 2, 2020.
that avg's to only 10 people per city?
( we have 20,000 cities )
What makes you think all cities have the same rate of if infection...????
I don't. hence the following words....
just curious... what do ya suppose the death rates would be without democrat governors?
https://www.google.com/search?q=5+govenors+put+covid+patients+in+nursing+homes&
Could governors stop all air international air traffic like Trump claims he did in January?
Nope.
Did trump stop all air traffic from Chinese nationals from China like he claims he did in January?
Nope.
Hong Kong & Macau were left untouched allowing 43,000 Americans, Chinese and Europeans access to direct flights to the States.
When that was ended in MARCH, the people simply went East through Europe to Paris and London for flights to NYC
Why didn't the Administration recognize these things?
before I answer your questions... you answer mine.
how many people did democrat governors kill that are now being blamed on trump?
You're going to need this link to answer my question...
get back to me when ya have an answer.
and then I will answer your questions... * once you provide a link to the sources like I did.
None.
Next.
Don't hurt yourself ...answering this...
Who is the current POTUS.?
bs...
but hey, have a great day
If they had the information that Trump had at that time, maybe they would have acted different.
Ahhh, your specialty, lol.
carry on
Thank you, Krishna, for posting this profound, creative video-article summarizing efficiently what we have faced and are facing with the PANDEMIC.
This, to me, is a more powerful method of communication than a brilliantly crafted article might achieve, because it embraces the arts, visuals, illustrations, scripts, vocal, movement, sounds, content into a digestible content that touches us on many levels.
I am spellbound by your post.
Again, thank you for posting this essential historical commentary in a comprehensible method that hits on all 6 million cylinders in our brain, body, and soul.
Bravo!
You're welcome!
Aww-- Gooly Gee!
Now I'm blushing.
Digitally of course,,,, a digital blush?
"Many People Might be Saying" that its actually a "Virtual Blush"-- such is the nature of this modern world in which are now living in.
This 'president' disbanded the Pandemic Response team.
There is also this:
Trump Quietly Closed The U.S.'S Vaccine Safety Office Last Year. Researchers Are Scrambling To Replace It.
Developers will start rolling out their COVID-19 vaccines in the coming months, leaving U.S. health officials to test their long-term safety. But that won't be easy, especially given that the Trump administration quietly shut down the office responsible for ensuring the safety of vaccines last year, The New York Times reports .
Before the late 1980s, vaccine safety relied on parents, doctors, vaccine makers, and hospitals to step forward and report symptoms they feared were connected to a vaccine. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention then worked out a new system that sought out clusters of symptoms among people who receive a vaccine, and expanded that oversight during the H1N1 epidemic of 2009. This system helped the U.S. figure out which symptoms actually popped up long after a vaccine was injected, and which were just coincidental.
But in 2019, the National Vaccine Program Office was shut down in an effort to cut costs and "eliminate program redundancies," Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar wrote at the time. The shortsightedness of that shutdown has come into clear view amid the coronavirus pandemic, said Dr. Nicole Lurie, who who was assistant secretary for preparedness and response at HHS during the 2009 pandemic. FDA and CDC staffers have reportedly been meeting up on their own time to cobble some safety projects together. "There's no sort of active coordination to bring all the information together," Lurie told the Times .
Other vaccine experts and political scientists have their own concerns: foreign disinformation campaigns, a lack of transparency, proper communications to clear up health issues unrelated to vaccines, to name a few. A coordinated vaccine office would be tasked with handling all of that. Read more at The New York Times .
Correct!
Thanks for posting that!
That's a really important story that hasn't recently gotte the news coverage it deserves.
"That's a really important story that hasn't recently gotten the news coverage it deserves."
Yet this alleged Joe/Hunter Biden scam is everywhere, well if you count Breitbart, Faux 'news', all the right wing sources.
This 'president' never had control of it in the first place. He hid the dangers. Allowed his wealthy benefactors to profit off of the impending deadly virus. He hasn't done shit since it started.
The US practically invented the playbook of how to confront pandemics. Presidents — like George W. Bush and Barack Obama — worked to ensure that if a pandemic came, there would be an effective plan to respond. Yet while other countries used that playbook, and succeeded in doing what was necessary to get the coronavirus under control, the Trump administration threw out the plan.
To help Americans understand precisely what went wrong, Insider hired the comics creators Anthony Del Col and Josh Adams to depict the Trump administration's course of action that put America into this position.
Providence is saying we need new better eadership.
Well, I hope I don't get any backlash for this-- but I totally agree!
WE HAVE NO LEADERSHIP NOW. Not since January 2016.
What more needs to be said? Those who support Trump will never admit his culpability even after listening to his own words being spoken. No matter WHERE in the world it may have started really makes little difference when its containment was possible, but now you can see the reason America has failed to contain it.
In the movie Mars Attacks, Jack Nicholson played the POTUS. He did not take the invasion seriously. Yet again, life has imitated art.
Yes, its seems like yet another case of deja vu all over again!
YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING:
If you come to a fork in the road, take it!
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Why does it rain from above, and, not below, Greg Jones? Solutions to National Emergencies are not found by POINTING FINGERS.
They are achieved by collaborative efforts, respectfully acknowledging the severity of the task, and moving quickly to contain it.
Trump did none of that, relying on misdirection, bravado, misinformation, and falsification to appease and boaster his own prominence.
America must DEFEAT this childish monarch before he sacrifices 2 MILLION Americans to feed
Exactly.
And as more and more people are starting to realize the sheer stupidity of Trump's actions (to say nothing of his persistent nastiness!!!)...that's exactly why he won't get re-elected!
But his nastiness does not dissuade quite a lot of people - they love it, they emulate it.
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A better question, "The Magic Eight Ball," is
"WHY DID TRUMP allow the COVID19 to spread throughout America and kill 220,000 Americans, infecting 8.3 million more?"
Did Trump want to save America's economy, or, was he motivated to stay off a lifetime prison sentence?
Taunting [Perrie Halpern R.A.]
Well, over my many, many years of participating in online forums, I have noticed this trend-- taunting is what many people often have to resort to when they don't have a good argument...
(Don't have the facts on your side? No problema-- simply attempt to derail the conversation by attacking other users rather than discussing the actual topic. And one way to do this is to resort to "Playing The Taunting Card".
But getting more directly back to the actual topic we're discussing here: other countries do whatever they did. So a great leader has to make decisions based on the actual facts, the "current reality".
(And a constant obsession with with resorting to blaming others for their own failures is a tell-tale sign of a leader who's incompetent at best-- and at one who's extremely dangerous!!!).
The title of this article is misleading. You can’t lose something you never had in the first place.
Good point-- I totally agree!
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How did Europe lose control of the virus?
Equivalent of 200,000 cases and 1500 deaths in France alone yesterday, and that country isn’t even close to the worst in Europe right now.
Maybe Macron is as incompetent as Trump. Maybe the French people are more "devil-may-care" when it came to following the guidelines. As I see it, where it HAS been pretty well contained is because of a cultural difference. Why has Canada done so much better than the USA? It's not an island, it didn't get any kind of advanced notice before the USA did, and in fact it has the longest unguarded border in the world with the country that has done the worst with the virus.
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What about all of the unreported cases in the US?
Because Trump is not the Prime Minister of Canada?
Thank God.
LOL!
(Ain't it the truth though...)
Of which there are many...and the number is rapidly increasing.
Totally off topic.
I would highly recommend you re-read the topic again-- more carefully this time.
It is:
An interesting and probably useful topic for discussion. But that's not what we're discussing here.
Do you actually not know what we are discussing-- what the topic is actually about?
Or was that merely an attempt at deliberately derailling the discussion because you don't like what wen were saying?
(I'd be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume its the latter: I could be wrong but I'm willing to accept the idea that you were not deliberaetly trying to derail the discussion, but rather you were simply not aware of what the topic is).
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That's all they got Krishna, deflection and projection.
You do realize that Europe is a continent, not a country.......right?
Watching Trump's speeches lately, its becoming more and more obvious that his mental condition is deteriorating. I'm no doctor but I can't help but wondering what happening to him. It look like he's in the early stages of Alzheimers (A tragic disease-- so let's pray for him).
Or does he have some other serious mental problem? (Maybe he's just starting to get senile???)
I am not alone in this realization-- found this amazing video on YouTube:
Trump's Best Words - 2019 Edition
Absolutly the best bigly words ever...
Yes-- definitely the "Bigliest"!
Have you noticed, Krishna, that the comments by the Trump supporters DO NOT ADDRESS the words spoken in the video that is the topic here? They simply CANNOT agree that their master has said or done anything that is a mistake or shortsighted, and the only weapon they use is to deflect or taunt. They simply don't realize that such stubborn polarization has driven the USA almost to a civil war mentality. God help the USA. I can understand a conservative viewpoint, I hold such on some matters as well, I can respect a conservative who has the brains and common sense to realize and admit that Trump was not the best deal arouind, but I am dumbfounded by those who think he can do no wrong.
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[Buzz is not the topic.]
Yes I have.
While there are rare exceptions, many ardent Trump supporters remind me of members of a far out fanatical cult. Religious wackos, or "true Believers' in some hate group-- be it the Nazis, the KKK, etc. Its one thing to agree with a candidate's political views-- or even to think highly of the person themselves. But I've noticed for many of Ttrump's "base" it has become a sort of fanaticism.
BTW I always wondered why Trump would invite such fanaticism.
Part of it was his great abilities as a con artist. But I thought there may be something else.
Then I started watching Fox News every day-- and it became obvious.
Its a typical propaganda station-- they use many of the talking points of totalitarian regimes, timeshare sales,em, used car dealers, and the like.And they're good at manipulating people.
(Some of which is that of the "Whattaboutism"-- an often effective tactic of changing the subject when one is clearly losing the debate).
In somes its goes well beyond mere;y holding Conservative views. heck, I have some friends who are staunch conservatives. (And a relatively new phenomenon-- I know a few lifelong republicans who are grudgingly supporting Biden).
And their reasons are interesting-- many of them voted for Trump in 2016 because they though he would be a Conserative-- which he clearly is not! (Just for starters Trump want to greatly expand the role of the federal Government and the degree to which they interfere in our daily lives-- justthe opposite of a true Conservative philosophy!!!
In addition, he greatly increased the National Debt-- and keeps pushing for that! (True Conservatives are very big on fiscal responsibility).
And then there's even the matter of our Constitutionally mandated Federal system and the role of stated' rights. Trump constantly wants to increase his power (i.e. the Federal Gov't power) at the expense of the states.
And he increasingly has the feds intefere in state and local matters-- or at least frequently attempts to until stopped by honest electedmofficials or in some cases Congress.and occasionally even the Courts!
Trump is no Conservative-- no way! (And more and more Republicans know it!
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'How soon it is forgotten that when the country has been invaded by an enemy, whether it be by a nation or terrorists as it should when by a deadly virus, the country becomes unified, which is the ONLY way for the country to defend itself - when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour, when 9/11 happened - when those things happened did the individual State governors act like those building the Tower of Babel? A REAL leader would have been able to unify the whole country - which is what is obviously REQUIRED, or is 83,000 not a big enough number? I'll bet that within a month it will be 100,000.
blaming the victim does not work
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The victim? The victim is the people, the blame belongs to the leader who fails to protect them, who faile to unify the people to effectively deal with the threat.
There is one big problem with this little theory - Trump did what the so-called "scientists" recommended.
When?
What scientist told orange conman to keep quiet about how serious this pandemic is, not to "panic" the citizens?
but but but .... 'we' are dieing Vic, because the federal government did not tell 'we the people' what to do... Science be Damn'd Vic .. nothing happening at this time is about the science... it is about politics!
p.s..... had Trump required testing and contract tracing in January 2020 .............. the backlash would have been quick and quite verbal about the Trump dictatorship! Just as it was regarding shutting down traffic from China and the EU!
Peace Vic
That's right
Peace Ms Colour
Are you honestly going to say there is nothing he could have done, just because Liberals would yell at him?
Do you really think that him intentionally downplaying the virus had no impact?
That him refusing to wear a mask had no impact?
That him saying it will all go away and is nothing to worry about had no impact?
Whoa .. was not that former Presidents Obama's reasoning for doing nothing about Russian meddling in the 2016? For real .. Obama could not respond to Russia during the election because he would have been attacked as partisan by the right ..
Science was down playing the impact .. or are you saying Fauci was down playing as well - or that Trump made him do it?
I do not hero worship .. my life does not hang in the balance waiting for another individual to tell me what to do .... I wear a mask when it gets smoky from wild fires .. I am immune compromised. I was not even influenced by Fauci telling me not to wear a mask back in late February ... when I went out I wore a mask .. when the shut down happened I died and went to heaven .. I could actually go out and shop [wearing a mask] without individuals perfumes and colognes cutting my breathing off because they bathed in the crap ..
I do not defend Trump's personal decision regarding the wearing of masks......................... in my mind critical thinking and common sense are up to the individual .. it is not something that can be dictated, mandated or even taught .. !
I never heard that as an Obama excuse...but by all means let's play the...look at the other guy meme....
Oh, now it is let's blame Fauci...
Now the I don't like donald yet it is everyone else at fault meme...
All excuses.
Spare me your selective outrage ..
Selective outrage? Haha
Spare me your platitudes...
Platitudes? .. nothing about me is common place! Haha!
Funny you do not deny what I said, just take offence...
Sorry CMF, Obama started a diplomatic shit storm by closing and seizing two KGB "rest centers" and expelling 35 Russian diplomats known to be spies. In spite of Trump's call to Russia to wait for the inauguration, Putin seized
2 US facilities and deported 755 diplomats leaving each country with 455 "diplomats".
Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaa! if you had anything to say that could spawn a debate .. I might engage - alas Ender all you can come up with is that I am placing blame on Fauci and using memes.. now that is selective outrage and a platitude WAY over done!
P.s.....
Awwww Ender .. I suppose you are a believer of McConnell did it? Hahahahahahahaaaaa!
Have a great day Ender ,,,,
That was in December of 2016... Timelines matter
San Francisco was one of the first cities to shut down .. people were bitching hard and heavy .. but was one of the least hit areas in the beginning .. Pelosi is just one of those people .. if she is doing it, I am not paying much attention to it .. even now .. there are so many political cartoons out there about her holding up the stimulus package as not to give Trump a win .. who knows .. her vanishing from the DC would not hurt my feelings at all ... but alas .. her cute lil Botox'd face is front page news too often ..
Hilarious. You have offered nothing as far as any debate. Only trying to throw blame elsewhere.
Not once hold the administration in charge responsible for anything.
You have offered nothing but pointing fingers in every direction possible.
How many times do you need to be told that Obama did do something about Russian meddling?
Still peddling that lie I see.
It's trumpturd holding up the stimulus package, not Mrs. Pelosi
Truth also matters.
OK...I'll bite.
When did he first know about it, what did he do about it and did he do it before the 2016 election or after?
This is a graded quiz so be careful with your answers.
Yes.
There are a few common tactics people on social media sites use when they realize that they are losing an argument.
Perhaps the most common is the "derail"-- tactics that attempt to get the conversation off track.. .
Anyway, to further continue my train of thought:...
One of the most common types of derails is what's frequently referred to as the "whataboutism card" .
Its simple-- when you don't like what's being discussed, immediately play the Whataboutism card" . Reply to the comment by saying "But what about..." (but what about...something totally off topic.).
How so..Be specific and, keep in mind.
Feeeeeeeelings don't count.
See 11.3.10
P.S. I don't answer to you bugs
So you have no idea. You just spew left wing propaganda.
What you probably have never been told is that Obama knew of Russia meddling around 2015 and did nothing about it because he figured Hillary was going to win anyway.
He expelled the diplomats AFTER the 2016 election, not when he found out about the meddling.
Now you know the truth.
Agreed : )
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That was on February 24th. Do you remember what Trump was saying at the time? Here, let me help:
Who are 'they' Kathleen? Don't let 'them' gaslight you, Trump allowed over 40,000 into the US from China, most went untested, un-surveilled and untraced.
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I didn't ask you about your 'views', I asked you about the claims you made.
Do you remember what Trump was saying at the time?
Who are 'they' Kathleen?
She keeps peddling those alternative facts.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink...
Most of these Trump nut gobblers don't want to listen to facts or anything that doesn't fit the already deeply held right wing ideology about who they hate and why. Like trying to help a cornered injured kitten they will only lash out and bite or scratch at the hand that tries to help them think rationally. They are too invested and infested with right wing ideology to have an original thought of their own so you're not really confronting any individuals opinion, you're just confronting the conservative stink tank of right wing ideological views which teach their gullible followers to reject reality because it always ends up making them look bad. Just like a guilty criminal who almost starts to believe in the bullshit defense their lawyer has crafted so as to get them out of any responsibility, they have to stick with their narrative or be convicted for their idiocy and gullibility.
You seem to keep misunderstanding my comments. I didn't ask you to explain anything to me.
Facts need not be resolved, they just ARE.
So you're sure I would disagree with you on what YOU remember and on who 'they' are?
It looks to me that you're merely set on posting proclamations that you don't actually want to discuss. So be it.
The cognitive dissonance must be painful.
You're right about us disagreeing if your idea of taking the high road is implying that somehow Nancy Pelosi did something nefarious on Feb. 24th in SF Chinatown.
Why is Obama and Russia relevant to this conversation?
well, the "right" used Obama as the poster boy to incite and rally angry whites, thus Trump's election via Russia's infiltration of social media and the manipulation of quite malleable minds, that don't, mind
Which scientist told trump to golf constantly? Or to say ANY of the following?
It should have been ZERO people coming in from China. I don't care who they were. They all should have been quarantined from the very beginning at least until a test was created to determine if they were infected.
After this genie was let out of the bottle nobody could control it
Your 'president' did absolutely nothing to control it, the numbers could have been way down, if he had not lied about it, denied it, allowed his wealthy benefactors to benefit from it (while hiding it from/denying its' deadly severity). Your 'president' has over 200,000 deaths on his hands.
Wrong...
Again.
Nothing new
Correct . . .
Again.
Nothing new.
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I don’t know If you’ll read the quote or the link and you may deny it but here is what the experts said on march 30th.
“Birx said the projections by Dr. Anthony Fauci that U.S. deaths could range from 1.6 million to 2.2 million is a worst case scenario if the country did "nothing" to contain the outbreak, but said even "if we do things almost perfectly," she still predicts up to 200,000 U.S. deaths.”
so, according to the experts trump did everything right.
The 'president' didn't do shit. He fucks up everything his tiny little hands touch.
Again, I don't answer to you bugs.
Lol, ok, nice talking with ya.
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Tell that to New Zealand, South Korea, Germany,.........
where the hell is Major Nelson...?
Sure wish I had had that insider knowledge! Everybody is making and selling face masks these days