The NewsTalkers Anonymous Exit Poll For The 2020 Presidential Election

  

Category:  News & Politics

By:  dig  •  3 weeks ago  •  173 comments

The NewsTalkers Anonymous Exit Poll For The 2020 Presidential Election

Question 1

Voting has Ended

Which party did you choose for the Presidency?

Select
Option
Votes
Republican
18
Democratic
23
Libertarian
2
Green
0
Constitution
0
Other/Write In
1
I Didn't Vote
4

Question 2

Voting has Ended

For other offices, did you vote party line or split ticket?

Select
Option
Votes
Party Line
30
Split Ticket
14
I Didn't Vote
4

Question 3

Voting has Ended

If you voted in person on Election Day, how long was the wait at your polling location?

Select
Option
Votes
0-5 Minutes
8
5-15 Minutes
6
15-30 Minutes
3
30-45 Minutes
1
45-60 Minutes
0
More Than An Hour, But Less Than Two
1
More Than Two Hours
0
I Voted, But Not In Person On Election Day
29
I Didn't Vote
4


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Dig
1  author  Dig    3 weeks ago

I thought this might be fun.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dig @1    3 weeks ago

Good Idea. 

 
 
 
Kavika
1.2  Kavika   replied to  Dig @1    3 weeks ago
I thought this might be fun.

It is, thanks for posting this.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Dig @1    3 weeks ago

What's your altar ego Dig?

I like to know who I'm voting for . . . 

jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dig
1.3.1  author  Dig  replied to  Tessylo @1.3    3 weeks ago
What's your altar ego Dig?

What do you mean?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Dig @1.3.1    3 weeks ago

Aren't you a regular poster here on Newstalkers?  What is your other screen name, I guess you would call it?

I'm only known as Tessylo. 

 
 
 
Dig
1.3.3  author  Dig  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.2    3 weeks ago

Ah. I just shortened Dignitatem Societatis down to Dig. I was ready for a change, and it's what most people were already calling me anyway.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dig @1.3.3    3 weeks ago

I like it. I thought it was you but wasn't sure

 
 
 
Dig
1.3.5  author  Dig  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.4    3 weeks ago

Hmm. Maybe I should make a viewable notice of that somewhere on my user page or something.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.3.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dig @1.3.5    3 weeks ago

We know who you are. Your avatar didn't change

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Dig @1    3 weeks ago

I just dropped off my ballot at my voting location.  

I didn't see any lines.  

VOTE BLUE

BIDEN/HARRIS!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Dig @1    2 weeks ago

Good job.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2  Raven Wing    3 weeks ago

Should be fun to watch. Hopefully, some won't mess it up by fudging the votes.

 
 
 
devangelical
3  devangelical    3 weeks ago

I voted absentee ballot. straight party line ballot and a big FO to the anti-choice initiative assholes. volunteered to be a part of my state's ballot watch program due to USPS shenanigans by a white house rent-boy. my vote was accepted 2 weeks ago and is already counted.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.1  Raven Wing  replied to  devangelical @3    3 weeks ago
my vote was accepted 2 weeks ago and is already counted.

I sent in my mail-in ballot about three weeks ago, and was notified by USPS that it had been received by the Country Registrar, and has been counted. I have voted this way for the last 15+ years.   

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Raven Wing @3.1    3 weeks ago

You know Washington State has been voting by solely mail in votes for over 11 years now.  NO PROBLEMS.

In Colorado, I believe, the last two out of three votes, mail in votes, were majority republican.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.1.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

I have never had any problem with my mail-in ballots. Never had one lost. All have been counted. However, I send my ballot back the next day after I get it. I already know who and what I am voting for or against, so it only takes me a few minutes to complete my ballot and have it ready to send back the next day. So I see no reason not to do the same this time.

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.3  Krishna  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
You know Washington State has been voting by solely mail in votes for over 11 years now.  NO PROBLEMS. In Colorado, I believe, the last two out of three votes, mail in votes, were majority republican.

IIRC, Trump himself votes via a mail in ballot! (I believe he may have changed that this time because it was better optics).

IIRC, he's a registered voter in NY-- but since he spends almost all his time either at Mar-a-Lago (in Florida) or in Washington, he vhas to vote by mail-in ballot to the state he's registered in-- NY!

 
 
 
Suz
4  Suz    3 weeks ago

Dig, how is this anonymous? 

 
 
 
Dig
4.1  author  Dig  replied to  Suz @4    3 weeks ago

Answering a question just adds a point to the tally, it doesn't identify who selected what.

 
 
 
Suz
4.1.1  Suz  replied to  Dig @4.1    3 weeks ago

Thanks

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
4.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Suz @4    3 weeks ago

It is not, but sadly I fear some here on NT will use what others voted for against them, whether they voted for Biden or Trump. Not all, but some will.

 
 
 
Dig
4.2.1  author  Dig  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2    3 weeks ago

How is it not?

 
 
 
cjcold
4.2.2  cjcold  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2    3 weeks ago

Most here on NT already know how everybody else votes.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2    3 weeks ago

How can you tell who voted?

 
 
 
Dig
4.2.4  author  Dig  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2    3 weeks ago

Seriously, how is it not?

I certainly don't see a way to find out who selected what.

If there is a way, then someone needs to let me know so I can delete these polls, having advertised them as anonymous.

 
 
 
TᵢG
4.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Dig @4.2.4    3 weeks ago

They seem anonymous to me.

 
 
 
Kavika
4.2.6  Kavika   replied to  Dig @4.2.4    3 weeks ago

They sure seem anonymous to me.

 
 
 
Dig
4.2.7  author  Dig  replied to  TᵢG @4.2.5    3 weeks ago
They seem anonymous to me.

Coming from the site's IT guy, I'm going to consider them safe and let them stand.

 
 
 
Kavika
4.2.8  Kavika   replied to  Dig @4.2.7    3 weeks ago
Coming from the site's IT guy, I'm going to consider them safe and let them stand.

Absolutely 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2    3 weeks ago

Ed,

I promise you, the vote is anonymous. No one here can read. Tig is right.

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.2.10  Sparty On  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2    3 weeks ago

Who cares Ed?  

All you have to do is simply disagree with some people here and you automatically become the red headed stepchild to them from then on.

Haters gonna hate no matter what.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.10    3 weeks ago

Well, I hope you are not talking about this red head. That has never been the way I operated. 

And the hating goes both ways, sadly. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.2.12  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.11    3 weeks ago

Sorry ... apologies for my bigoted comment towards red heads ..... jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.11    3 weeks ago

I might say I hate Trump just for the fuck of it, because the right won't be happy until everyone on the other side says they hate Trump. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.2.14  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.13    3 weeks ago

Damn John, i really do worry about you sometimes.

Really

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.14    3 weeks ago

stop saying everyone irrationally hates trump , then you wont have anything to worry about

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.13    3 weeks ago
I might say I hate Trump just for the fuck of it, because the right won't be happy until everyone on the other side says they hate Trump. 

Not any need to state the obvious.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.16    3 weeks ago

I can realize that he is unfit to hold elected office without personally hating him.  I dont hate people that I dont know , and none I can think of that I do know. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
4.2.18  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Dig @4.2.1    3 weeks ago

I misread the the post. I was wrong, my apologies.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.19  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.17    3 weeks ago

I have never seen anyone obsessed with someone they constantly put down that didn't hate the person they constantly complain about.

Your many words here have told me what the truth is about your feelings for Trump, and denial is futile.

 
 
 
Dig
4.2.20  author  Dig  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.18    3 weeks ago

It's all good. 

You sent me into panic mode there for a while, though. lol

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.21  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.12    3 weeks ago

LOL... I knew you were joking!

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.2.22  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.21    3 weeks ago

Figured but you never know in this place

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
4.2.23  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Dig @4.2.20    3 weeks ago

Again my apologies. I like to think I am adult enough to admit I was wrong and made a mistake.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.2.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.23    3 weeks ago

You are, Ed. An adult that is and one of the good guys even if we disagree more than we agree

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.2.25  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.9    3 weeks ago

Yeeeeeeah and so are messages and PN's. No one can see them but the participants right? There is no log to scan if you are a mod or RA. I didn't read that somewhere

 
 
 
Suz
4.2.26  Suz  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.11    3 weeks ago

I don't hate anyone here. 

When there is a Presidential election, I hate the things people say and I hate the things I say in return.  Because I am a mental irregular, I try to remove myself from a political discussion, but I'm not always successful. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.27  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.19    3 weeks ago
I have never seen anyone obsessed with someone they constantly put down that didn't hate the person they constantly complain about. Your many words here have told me what the truth is about your feelings for Trump, and denial is futile.

Please don't confuse me with someone who gives a shit about what you think.  Donald Trump is not fit to hold elected office, because he is a known pathological liar, a crook, a bigot, a moron, and a cheat , among his other disqualifying characteristics. Anyone's hate of him has nothing to do with it. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
4.2.28  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.24    3 weeks ago

We may disagree, but at least we are able to do in a civil, adult, and polite manner.  That is something that is needed more of on NT.

 
 
 
Ender
4.2.29  Ender  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.28    3 weeks ago

I may get a little snaky but I don't mean to be mean.
Sometimes I am just having fun. People need to lighten up.

Not talking about you as I think for the most part we get along.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.30  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.27    3 weeks ago
Please don't confuse me with someone who gives a shit about what you think. 

No, never! But I damn sure will voice my opinion, just as you do yours.

It isn't my fault your words give away how you really feel about Trump, so don't blame me for calling it like I see it.

If you don't want people to think you don't hate Trump, perhaps toning down your oft-repeated rhetoric would go some ways to convince some gullible soul that you don't hate Trump.

Or not, I don't really care what you deny or admit.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.2.31  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.30    3 weeks ago

The only way I feel about trump is that he is unfit to hold office in the United States of America.  he's fit to host a game show. He's fit to appear on World Wide Wrestling extravaganzas. He's fit to host a beauty pageant in eastern Europe. He's not fit morally, ethically, psychologically, or intellectually to be president of the United States, unless our country has lost its damn mind for good. This is a very serious thing, not a damn joke. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.32  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.31    3 weeks ago
The only way I feel about trump is that he is unfit to hold office in the United States of America.  he's fit to host a game show. He's fit to appear on World Wide Wrestling extravaganzas. He's fit to host a beauty pageant in eastern Europe. He's not fit morally, ethically, psychologically, or intellectually to be president of the United States, unless our country has lost its damn mind for good. This is a very serious thing, not a damn joke. 

I don't think that dramatic toning down of your usual is going to convince anyone who has been reading along that you don't hate him.

But it isn't my concern, so carry on.

Your words speak for themselves, no explanations necessary.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.2.33  Krishna  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.14    3 weeks ago
Damn John, i really do worry about you sometimes.

Awww....how considerate of you! jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
4.2.34  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.28    3 weeks ago

absolutely!

 
 
 
Sparty On
4.2.35  Sparty On  replied to  Krishna @4.2.33    3 weeks ago

Yeah, i understand sincerity is totally lost on many here.

jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
4.2.36  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ender @4.2.29    3 weeks ago

Agreed.

 
 
 
Krishna
4.2.37  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.19    3 weeks ago

I have never seen anyone obsessed with someone they constantly put down that didn't hate the person they constantly complain about.

Ah yes-- that definitely reminds me of the way most Republicans feel about Hillary.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.38  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @4.2.37    3 weeks ago

again, do you have any actual point to make?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.39  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.25    3 weeks ago
Yeeeeeeah and so are messages and PN's. No one can see them but the participants right? There is no log to scan if you are a mod or RA. I didn't read that somewhere

SP deleted this comment as meta but as I reviewed the tickets I saw it and decided to bring it back, but make no mistake, SP was right to delete it as meta, but I think that since you brought it out in public, it should be properly addressed since it goes to the integrity of the site. 

First of all, mods can't see anything. 

I as the site admin, can't see any PN sent. The only thing I can see is that a PN was sent, but not to who or the content. 

As for chats, I can only see who has been chatting with who, and the number of exchanges. I can't see the actual content of the chat. That is why when there is a chat issue, I ask people to send me the chat log since that belongs only to the participants. 

Jim, I know the person who is sour grapes who probably told you this piece of garbage information, but it's just not true. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Suz @4    2 weeks ago

Do you see any names next to the numbers?

 
 
 
Sparty On
5  Sparty On    3 weeks ago

Prediction based on empirical evidence from this place.

75% Biden

20% Trump

5% Other

+/- 5% accuracy range

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @5    3 weeks ago

Well, it seems that our Republicans are not voting. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1    3 weeks ago

Turnout is everything.  jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1    3 weeks ago

Perhaps not but this conservative is, as i am not tied to either party.

I stand by my prediction if everyone votes.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

LOL. sure did!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

Are you talking about the NT vote or the actual vote?

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.4    3 weeks ago

NT vote.  

Actual vote will be vastly different from NTers.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

You want to see different? Look at these two article headlines with the same story.

Note the difference. One includes the full statement. The other, a dog whistle for liberal "readers". And you wonder why the country is basically torn in half? Wonder no more good people.

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.6    3 weeks ago

The second link is a very good example of clickbait.

gee, if they were going to be seeded here, which one would be the one selected?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.7    3 weeks ago

Come on guys, the same thing could be said about Fox, or Townhall, or The Federalist. I'm not even going to give examples, cause we all know it's true. 

The problem is that the rhetoric has gotten way out of hand. Pick your poison, pick your click bait.

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.9  Ender  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.8    3 weeks ago

It is like wading through the muck to find any truth.

Imo NPR is one of the better ones. Aljazeera is actually pretty good.

Most of it may be a fact presented with opinion.

It is hard to find a place with...

512

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @5.1.9    3 weeks ago

I tend to read The Hill and British papers, especially The Sunday Times (English paper). They are more dispassionate and so more likely to give you the facts. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.1.11  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.8    3 weeks ago

C'mon Perrie!

The mass media, meaning the bulk of the media out there in space and and all their surrogates, clearly leans heavily left.   I'm talking ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc.   Fox is the only more conservative outlet close to the same size and reporting scope to those.   Townhall and the Federalist are like HS newspapers by comparison.  

Don't expect you to agree, i know you see it differently and that is still very hard for me to believe for a person who claims to be independent.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1.12  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1    2 weeks ago

They are too busy nursing their wounds.

 
 
 
Tacos!
5.2  Tacos!  replied to  Sparty On @5    3 weeks ago

Yes, there is clearly a lot of support for the Giant Douche. You have to be brave to vote for the Turd Sandwich and admit it.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Tacos! @5.2    3 weeks ago

Lol .... i love South Park .... they seem to always get it.

 
 
 
Ender
5.2.2  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @5.2    3 weeks ago

Simpson's did it

 
 
 
Gordy327
5.2.3  Gordy327  replied to  Tacos! @5.2    3 weeks ago

Can I vote for a 3rd party? Prof. Chaos for Prez! Lol

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6  Trout Giggles    3 weeks ago

I have to qualify my vote on the last question. Some of my local races were unopposed and were republicans. There was no opportunity for write-ins and the way the machine was designed it seemed to me that one had to vote for the unopposed candidate or you would never get out of there. Meaning, your whole ballot was scrapped because you refused to vote for the republican.

I think there was a way to bypass all of that so I didn't have to vote for the repub but it wasn't clearly marked. Have I mentioned I live in a red town, red County, red State, and our Sec of State is a Repub?

 
 
 
Dig
6.1  author  Dig  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    3 weeks ago

That kinda sucks. Mine is always a paper ballot, and I can just leave unopposed offices blank if I don't support the only option.

Quick question for you. You said you're referring to the last question. Are the polls not showing up as question 1, 2, and 3, with 3 being the last one (and about wait times)? I'm just curious if the page is loading the same for everyone.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dig @6.1    3 weeks ago

My apologies...the last question I see on my page is the one about wait times. I should have said Question 2 in my comment.

 
 
 
Dig
6.1.2  author  Dig  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.1    3 weeks ago

Great. No biggie. I was just wondering.

 
 
 
MUVA
7  MUVA    3 weeks ago

256 Everyone in front of me took the republican sample ballot except two.45 minutes to vote

 
 
 
MUVA
7.1  MUVA  replied to  MUVA @7    3 weeks ago

A couple people in the line of cars got mad because they sat in the line and were told they had to get out of their cars to vote they were either 65 or handicapped this is VA not Texas.

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  MUVA @7.1    3 weeks ago

Some Americans can be such dicks .....

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @7    3 weeks ago

I had to wait over an hour to wait. When they saw that I was there with my 87 year old dad, they wanted him to go in first. But he wanted to vote with the rest of us, so he sat himself down by the front door, and played mayor till we got there. I think he actually had a good time. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2    3 weeks ago

You had to wait over an hour just to wait?

LOL!

I just voted!  EVERYONE NEEDS TO VOTE!  That's  how tRump LOSES.

VOTE BLUE

VOTE BIDEN/HARRIS

 
 
 
IMT
8  IMT    3 weeks ago

I elect not to vote.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  IMT @8    3 weeks ago

Well crap. That deletes your opportunity to bitch. Are you sure?

 
 
 
IMT
8.1.1  IMT  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1    3 weeks ago

Yes, I'm quite sure. Moreover, I had no opportunity to complain because judges [D and R] in multiple states refused our candidates ballot access.

 
 
 
cjcold
8.1.2  cjcold  replied to  IMT @8.1.1    3 weeks ago
refused our candidates ballot access

I'm almost afraid to ask, but I will. Which party?

 
 
 
IMT
8.1.3  IMT  replied to  cjcold @8.1.2    3 weeks ago

Dear cjcold:

I don't have claws, fangs, bat-wings or green blood. I don't feed on others' blood. And while I own a telescope and enjoy surveying space, I don't even come from there.

I've said this to point out that you can ask me safely whatever you want.

I support the Socialist Equality Party.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.4  Dulay  replied to  IMT @8.1.1    3 weeks ago

Translation: Your party candidate couldn't get enough signatures to be on the ballot. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @8.1.4    3 weeks ago

I do wish that this country would allow for a third party. But it's either Democrat or Republican

 
 
 
Veronica
8.1.6  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.5    3 weeks ago
But it's either Democrat or Republican

And they usually nominate people I would prefer NOT to vote for.  I hate the 2 party system.

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.5    3 weeks ago

A third party is a waste of time imo unless we first do away with the two party system, the RNC and the DNC.

A non partisan primary to reduce the field and then a top few vote getters run in the main election on their own merits.   Not merits that are spoon feed to them by a party.

Top voter in each state could carry that states electoral college.   It could work but not until we trash the existing system.  

My vote for Perot in 92 taught me that.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @8.1.6    3 weeks ago

Me. too

 
 
 
TᵢG
8.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Veronica @8.1.6    3 weeks ago
I hate the 2 party system.

This is how I vote up a comment more than once:

thumbs-up.jpg

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.7    3 weeks ago

It's only a waste of time if you're satisfied with the status quo

 
 
 
Veronica
8.1.11  Veronica  replied to  TᵢG @8.1.9    3 weeks ago

Thanks.

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.10    3 weeks ago

Nah, i gave you my reason for why its a waste of time.

Clinton won in 92 with the lowest percentage of the popular vote in 80 years and since.   And it's not even close.   The third party candidate, Perot, made that happen when he got nearly 20% of the popular vote.   The most for a third party candidate in 80 years as well.   See how that timeline lines up?  

He never had a chance to beat Clinton or Bush given our current system.   Had i known that then, i wouldn't have wasted my vote on him.   Which is exactly what i did.   Waste my vote in 92.

 
 
 
Veronica
8.1.13  Veronica  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.7    3 weeks ago
A non partisan primary to reduce the field and then a top few vote getters run in the main election on their own merits.   Not merits that are spoon feed to them by a party. Top voter in each state could carry that states electoral college.   It could work but not until we trash the existing system.

I would not mind that at all.  I would also like to see the end of negative campaigning.  I think the candidates should campaign on their qualifications, not get down in the mud with their opponents.  It has gotten to be ridiculous.

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.1.14  Sparty On  replied to  Veronica @8.1.13    3 weeks ago
I would also like to see the end of negative campaigning.  I think the candidates should campaign on their qualifications, not get down in the mud with their opponents.  It has gotten to be ridiculous.

I agree but i'm afraid that horse left the barn long ago and that is damn sad.

 
 
 
MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)
8.1.15  MsAubrey (aka Ahyoka)  replied to  Veronica @8.1.13    3 weeks ago

Absolutely agree.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.16  Dulay  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.5    3 weeks ago

The country DOES allow for a third party. The voters have chosen not to have one. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @8.1.16    3 weeks ago

Ok....I guess I meant how do we release the stranglehold the 2 parties have on the system?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8.1.18  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.5    3 weeks ago

I had 4 choices and a write in to choose from on the ballot here , the usual GOP or dem , a libertarian candidate , and a Independent candidate , not sure why the green party wasnt on there .

 thing is unless tit is one of the big 2 , likelyhood is most would say any of the last 3 are non starters . here that depends on how one looks at it and what they want to achieve.

Wyo has not gone to the Dem candidate i am told for the last 11 or 13 presidential election cycles  so a vote for the dem is usually considered a wasted vote , just like a 3rd party vote , thing is it doesnt accomplish anything , the 2 parties still split the fed funds for elections and 3rd party gets nothing .

 way i look at it if im going to waste a vote per others views lets try and do something with it , like get the needed percentages to get that 3rd party matching fed election funds . and since i know ahead of time usually how the state will vote , even if my vote doesnt matter , i can try and make it actually do something .

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.19  Dulay  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.17    3 weeks ago

I think any 'new' party would merely be a conglomerate of the old ones. The other parties that have made a run have been, while going far to the left or right on some issue or another. I haven't read one third party platform that was cogent. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @8.1.19    3 weeks ago

I'm gonna start my own political party...The Fishing Party.

 
 
 
Ender
8.1.21  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.20    3 weeks ago

Just watch out for it breaking off into factions.

The catch and release versus the fry em' up.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @8.1.21    3 weeks ago

This would make a good article

 
 
 
Veronica
8.1.23  Veronica  replied to  Ender @8.1.21    3 weeks ago

Give me some oil/breading & let me fry those guppies....

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @8.1.23    3 weeks ago

I see which side you're on....

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.25  Dulay  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.12    2 weeks ago
Nah, i gave you my reason for why its a waste of time.
Clinton won in 92 with the lowest percentage of the popular vote in 80 years and since.   And it's not even close.  

I'll give you my reason why your statement was a waste of time. 

It's total bullshit.

Others were elected with LOWER percentages of the popular vote and in the last 80 years Trump, both Bushs, Kennedy, Nixon, Carter and Obama ALL won with LOWER percentages than Clinton's. 

Guess you'll have to rethink you timeline since it decidedly does NOT line up...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
8.1.26  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @8.1.25    2 weeks ago
s Trump, both Bushs, Kennedy, Nixon, Carter and Obama ALL won with LOWER percentages than Clinton's.

do you feel at all constrained by reality?

Every single President you named won with a higher percentage than Clinton.  This should be common knowledge. Sad you don't know it. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.27  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.26    2 weeks ago
do you feel at all constrained by reality?

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.28  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.26    2 weeks ago
do you feel at all constrained by reality?

Yes. 

Every single President you named won with a higher percentage than Clinton.  This should be common knowledge. Sad you don't know it. 

Prove it Sean. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.1.29  Sparty On  replied to  Dulay @8.1.25    2 weeks ago

Lol .... wrong and it's hilarious that some here seem to never tire of being so obtuse.   Apparently in an attempt to push an agenda i guess?  

That said:

I'll be happy for you to try and prove me wrong but you can't.   Because once again you would be, 100% and completely wrong to do so.

SOSDD and ...... yawn ........

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.1.30  Sparty On  replied to  Dulay @8.1.28    2 weeks ago

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Sean Treacy
8.1.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @8.1.28    2 weeks ago

Prove it Sean

Why, for once, don't you try and  prove your fake reality?  

Any adult who knows the slightest bit about American history knows I am correct. If you need a refresher, google is your friend.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.32  Dulay  replied to  Sparty On @8.1.29    2 weeks ago

Oh my bad, I was looking at the percentage of the Margin of the votes. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8.1.33  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @8.1.28    2 weeks ago
Every single President you named won with a higher percentage than Clinton.  This should be common knowledge. Sad you don't know it.  Prove it Sean.

Acknowledging that I am not Sean, I’ll prove it. Happy to.

Fascinating inquiry.

1992:  Clinton received 43.0% of the popular vote. And won.

As Sean indicated, you have to go back exactly 80 years from that election to find a lower winning percentage.

1912 : Woodrow Wilson received 41.8% of the popular vote.

Other winners since 1912 with their percentage of the popular vote . . . 

1916: Woodrow Wilson, 49.2%. 1920: Warren G. Harding, 60.3%. 1924: Calvin Coolidge, 54%. 1928: Herbert Hoover, 58.2%. 1932: Franklin D. Roosevelt, 57.4%. 1936: FDR, 60.8%. 1940: FDR, 54.7%. 1944: FDR: 53.4%. 1948: Harry Truman, 49.6%. 1952: Dwight D. Eisenhower, 55.2%. 1956: Ike again, 57.4%. 1960: John F. Kennedy, 49.72%. 1964: Lyndon Johnson, 61.1%. 1968: Richard Nixon (the closest one to Clinton), 43.4%. 1972: Richard Nixon, 60.7%. 1976: Jimmy Carter, 50.1%. 1980: Ronald Reagan, 50.7%. 1984: Ronald Reagan, 58.8%. 1988: George H.W. Bush, 53.4%.

After 1992:

1996: Clinton, 49.2%. 2000: George W. Bush, 47.9%. 2004: George W. Bush, 50.7%. 2008: Barack Obama, 52.9%. 2012: Barack Obama, 51.1%. 2016: Donald Trump, 46.1%.

It’s kind of amazing how many presidents have been elected with less than 50% of the popular vote. I count 8 in the last 108 years. I think a lot of people assume that the president does - or should always - receive more than 50% of the vote, but clearly pluralities in the popular vote are a lot more common than people think.

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.1.34  Sparty On  replied to  Dulay @8.1.32    2 weeks ago

No problem, everyone makes mistakes.  

Kudos for not trying to defend a flawed position

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.1.35  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.5    2 weeks ago

I read somewhere that it could cause a vote split.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2  Tessylo  replied to  IMT @8    3 weeks ago

Then you forfeit your right to complain about Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.  Also you forfeit your right to complain about President Joe Biden.  

 
 
 
IMT
8.2.1  IMT  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    3 weeks ago

How do you get that? I pay taxes, improve my properties, invest my savings, keep our laws, and agreed if needed to serve as an elector. It that -- to say naught of its supposed entrenchment in the constitution -- does not assure the right of free speech, I have to conclude that said 'right' must be regarded as a political payoff for supporting the party.

You on the other hand asked for and agreed to accept a master. If anyone has relinquished grounds for griping, I would think it was those who got exactly what they demanded.

 
 
 
cjcold
8.2.2  cjcold  replied to  IMT @8.2.1    3 weeks ago
accept a master

Actually I tend to vote for a head administrator who I think would work well for me.                     

 
 
 
IMT
8.2.3  IMT  replied to  cjcold @8.2.2    3 weeks ago

Your head administrator will indeed work for you -- IF you belong to the social class which said administrator represents.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
9  sandy-2021492    3 weeks ago

I voted early in person at my local county registrar's office.  There was no line - I walked right in.  One person came in behind me as I was feeding my ballot into the machine.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

TRUMP  JUST  CONCEDED that he is a moron. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.1  r.t..b...  replied to  JohnRussell @10    3 weeks ago

Seems the polls may have been correct this time around. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
10.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  r.t..b... @10.1    3 weeks ago

As Yogi 'Berra said "It's never over 'till it's over."  Trump hasn't filed his lawsuits yet, and the SCOTUS has decided the result a few times already, so with a conservative-loaded bench, who knows what is yet to happen?  I don't think that even in the event of a Biden landslide Trump will give up what I'm sure he will consider an impossibility.  In fact, I think they will have to run him out of the White House on a rail on January 20th, while he shouts "I'll be back".  LOL

 
 
 
MUVA
10.1.2  MUVA  replied to  r.t..b... @10.1    3 weeks ago

No for fuck sakes.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
10.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 weeks ago

It's not like we didn't know that already.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
11  Hal A. Lujah    3 weeks ago

I voted twice in person and six times absentee, all for Donald Trump. jrSmiley_124_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dig
11.1  author  Dig  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @11    3 weeks ago

lol

 
 
 
IMT
11.2  IMT  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @11    3 weeks ago

Vote early! Vote often!

For all the import elections have, it doesn't matter to me.

PS: If you hear how many times Trump votes, do tell us!

 
 
 
Kavika
12  Kavika     3 weeks ago

Navajo ''Ridin' to the Polls'' in Kayenta AZ. 

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Kavika
13  Kavika     3 weeks ago

We gotta git to the polls before they close.

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Trout Giggles
13.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @13    3 weeks ago

Now that's horse racing. No boots, no saddles, no helmets...

 
 
 
Kavika
13.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @13.1    3 weeks ago

It's Indian Relay Racing and this is the easiest part of the race.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
13.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @13.1.1    3 weeks ago

There's different parts of the race? Did you post this before?

 
 
 
Kavika
13.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @13.1.2    3 weeks ago

I posted a video of an Indian Relay Race before. It's three one mile laps and you change horses after each lap and that is really where the most danger lies.

 
 
 
MUVA
13.1.4  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @13.1.3    3 weeks ago

Have you seen the movie more than fry bread I’m guessing you have.

 
 
 
Kavika
13.1.5  Kavika   replied to  MUVA @13.1.4    3 weeks ago

What movie?

 
 
 
Kavika
13.1.6  Kavika   replied to  Kavika @13.1.5    3 weeks ago

Are you talking about ''More Than Frybread'' with Tatanka Means?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
13.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @13.1.3    3 weeks ago

I can see why. Change to a different horse with a different attitude

 
 
 
MUVA
13.1.8  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @13.1.6    3 weeks ago

Yes I wanted your thoughts on it.

 
 
 
Kavika
13.1.9  Kavika   replied to  MUVA @13.1.8    3 weeks ago

It was hilarious. A spoof on the best frybread in AZ with all the tribes competing. It shows  how important frybread is to each of the tribes. The mythical title of the ''Best Frybread''....

Noomokis (grandmother) guard their receipts for frybread with their lives.

BTW, it's a good thing that the Ojibwe we're in the contest cuz we make the very best fry bread in the US.

 
 
 
MUVA
13.1.10  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @13.1.9    3 weeks ago

It was funny the guy with the food truck that makes fry bread was funny as hell at first I only saw a small part and thought maybe it was areal competition until I watched the whole thing. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
13.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @13    2 weeks ago

Is that picture from the Cheyenne Suicide Race?  I wanted to enter once (the chuck wagon race) but my mother thew an absolute fit.

 
 
 
MrFrost
13.3  MrFrost  replied to  Kavika @13    2 weeks ago

800

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

There is an advertising plane flying over Philadelphia today , trailing a banner that reads,  "Trump Loves Jerry Jones And The Dallas Cowboys" 

 
 
 
Kavika
14.1  Kavika   replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 weeks ago

LOLOL

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
14.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @14    3 weeks ago

ohhhhh.......shhhhhiiiittttt........

they should go to Pittsburgh and do the same thing

 
 
 
Kavika
15  Kavika     3 weeks ago

'A real inspiration’: Oldest living Marine casts ballot in Kannapolis, shares voting memories at 107 years old

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'A real inspiration’: Oldest living Marine casts ballot in Kannapolis, shares voting memories at 107 years old (Source: Contributed photo)
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @15    3 weeks ago

Awww...and I dig her handsome escorts

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
16  Buzz of the Orient    3 weeks ago

Thanks for providing this opportunity that even allowed me to take part, so I could vote "I didn't vote" for an obvious reason. 

 
 
 
lady in black
17  lady in black    3 weeks ago

Voted this morning at 7:50 a.m. In and out in 5 minutes.

Actually had to go the office today.  I now have to go once a week.

Felt weird going there since the last time I was there was March 19th.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
17.1  GaJenn78  replied to  lady in black @17    3 weeks ago

Was at work at 6, left work at 4. Hubs and I went to our polling place around 5, in and out 15 minutes! Took an extra few to read, and reread some of the amendments here for Ga because they word it so confusing! Glad we read up on them beforehand! 

 
 
 
pat wilson
18  pat wilson    3 weeks ago

10% responded that they didn't vote. Interesting.

 
 
 
Sparty On
19  Sparty On    2 weeks ago

Unless there is a shitload of conservative lurkers here that voted, which is doubtful, there is no way almost as many here voted republican as voted democrat.

No way .....

 
 
 
TᵢG
19.1  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @19    2 weeks ago

NT polls tally unique votes from NT members (and only NT members).   Whatever numbers appear here are a result of individual logged in NT members casting a vote.    The poll is a function provided by the NT platform (jamroom).

 
 
 
Sparty On
19.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @19.1    2 weeks ago

Which changes nothing about my comment.   Nothing at all.

 
 
 
TᵢG
19.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @19.1.1    2 weeks ago

So what are you alleging ... that people are lying in this poll, that the poll is rigged, some other bizarre conspiracy theory?

It is a fucking poll for our own entertainment.   The results are simply used to satisfy curiousity.

 
 
 
Sparty On
19.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @19.1.2    2 weeks ago
So what are you alleging ... that people are lying in this poll, that the poll is rigged, some other bizarre conspiracy theory?

Again, my comment stands on its own merit.

It is a fucking poll for our own entertainment.   The results are simply used to satisfy curiousity.

Not sure why you seem to be getting so upset over a simple observation made on a discussion board.   Some latent hostility perhaps?

 
 
 
Tessylo
19.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @19.1.3    2 weeks ago

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TᵢG
19.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Sparty On @19.1.3    2 weeks ago
Again, my comment stands on its own merit.

You make a claim with no substantiating reasons and now refuse to even be clear.

 
 
 
Sparty On
19.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  TᵢG @19.1.5    2 weeks ago

Again, I made a very clear comment based on my observation of this site.   Not my problem if you are having trouble with it.  

To reiterate, unless there is a bunch on conservative lurkers here who voted rep, it is extremely doubtful the ratio of rep to dem is accurate.   That is my opinion based on observation of NT.

I could really care less if you agree with that or not and/or chose to not embrace the clarity offered within.

 
 
 
Tacos!
19.2  Tacos!  replied to  Sparty On @19    2 weeks ago
Unless there is a shitload of conservative lurkers here

That might actually be the case. I think conservatives generally don’t look to be as public about their politics as liberals do. We have seen this for a long time. The term “silent majority” goes back a long ways. Given the hostility and violence of modern politics, more people than ever appear to be reticent to state their preferences publicly just to protect themselves from harassment. 

I am painting in extremely broad strokes here, of course, and basing this on my own observations. In recent years, we have seen polls dramatically under predict conservative voting, and you might be seeing the same phenomenon at play with this poll.

 
 
 
Sparty On
19.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Tacos! @19.2    2 weeks ago

I agree which is why i offered that up as a possibility from the start.

But if you go by those who post here regularly ....... now way its that close imo.

 
 
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