How Emily Murphy Stands Between Biden's Team and Transition - The New York Times

  

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How Emily Murphy Stands Between Biden's Team and Transition - The New York Times
Emily W. Murphy, the administrator of the General Services Administration, must formally recognize President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. for the transfer of power to begin.

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Emily W. Murphy, the administrator of the General Services Administration, must formally recognize President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. for the transfer of power to begin.

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By Michael D. Shear, Maggie Haberman and Michael Crowley

  • Nov. 9, 2020

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Transition officials for President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. called on a top Trump administration appointee on Monday to end what they said was unwarranted obstruction of the money and access that federal law says must flow to the winner of a presidential election.

The officials, speaking on background to reporters on Monday night, said it was nearly unprecedented for Emily W. Murphy, the administrator of the General Services Administration, to refuse to issue a letter of "ascertainment," which allows Mr. Biden's transition team to begin the transfer of power.

By law, Ms. Murphy, the head of the sprawling agency that keeps the federal government functioning, must formally recognize Mr. Biden as the incoming president for his transition to begin. It has been three days since news organizations projected that he was the winner of the election, and Ms. Murphy has still not acted.

The transition officials said her inaction was preventing Mr. Biden's teams from moving into government offices, including secure facilities where they can discuss classified information. The teams cannot meet with their counterparts in agencies or begin background checks of top cabinet nominees that require top-secret access.

A White House official pointed out, as several Trump allies have, that the transition after the 2000 presidential election was delayed by the court fight between the campaigns of Vice President Al Gore and Gov. George W. Bush of Texas over several weeks. The official said it would be strange for President Trump to send some kind of a signal to allow the transition to start while he is still engaged in court fights.

But Mr. Biden's aides said that the dispute in 2000 involved one state with only about 500 ballots separating the winner and loser, far less than in the current contest. In every other presidential race for the past 60 years, the determination of a winner was made within 24 hours, they said — even as legal challenges and recounts continued for weeks.

They said that they were considering "all options," including potential legal action, to push Ms. Murphy to let the transition begin.

Ms. Murphy, who described herself as "a bit of a wonk" at her Senate confirmation hearing in October 2017, and also said that she was "not here to garner headlines or make a name for myself," so far has chosen to side with the White House and Mr. Trump, standing between Mr. Biden's team and a smooth transition.

The president refuses to concede the election and has his campaign contesting results in multiple states. Most Republicans have declined to recognize Mr. Biden, much less appointees like Ms. Murphy. And so the transfer of power that must take place is in limbo.

A White House spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a question about whether Mr. Trump was willing to let Ms. Murphy begin the transition without a concession from the president, as his court fights play out.

Leslie Dach, who was to lead the transition for the Department of Health and Human Services had Hillary Clinton won the presidency in 2016, said that despite the advance work done by Mr. Biden's team during the campaign, nothing could supplant having direct access to agencies, and that is impossible without Ms. Murphy.

"I think this is Trump sending a clear signal to everybody still standing in the administration that you've got to still follow his grievances," Mr. Dach said.

The stalling of the transition is part of an overarching refusal to acknowledge the election results by the Trump administration.

Officials in the White House presidential personnel office, known as P.P.O., have signaled that they will fire political appointees who search for new jobs outside of the administration during this time, according to two people briefed on the internal discussions. And on a call with U.S.A.I.D. staff members on Monday, officials described the election as still happening, according to a recording obtained by Axios.

In a letter on Sunday from the nonpartisan Center for Presidential Transition, veterans of previous administrations warned, "While there will be legal disputes requiring adjudication, the outcome is sufficiently clear that the transition process must now begin."

Aides to Mr. Biden have been working for months to develop fine-tuned transition plans to help the president-elect quickly make good on his campaign promises. Those review teams made up of people knowledgeable about each federal agency are critical.

Ms. Murphy has the legal authority to "turn on" the transition, releasing the $6.3 million in federal funds budgeted for the effort, making office space available and empowering team members to visit agency offices and request information.

It is often seen as the official starting gun. Under normal circumstances, Ms. Murphy's decision would usually be prompted by the concession speech by the election's loser, which is not a legal act, but it signals that both sides accept the result. In 2016, the acting administrator of the General Services Administration, also known as the G.S.A., under President Barack Obama made the determination on the morning of Nov. 9, right after the election.

But there is no specific provision for when Ms. Murphy must act.

Pamela D. Pennington, a spokeswoman for the G.S.A., said in a statement on Monday that "an ascertainment has not yet been made."

She added that the "G.S.A. and its administrator will continue to abide by, and fulfill, all requirements under the law and adhere to prior precedent established by the Clinton administration in 2000."

In an earlier statement, Ms. Pennington said that "the G.S.A. administrator does not pick the winner in the presidential election," adding that "the G.S.A. administrator ascertains the apparent successful candidate once a winner is clear based on the process laid out in the Constitution."

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Aides to Mr. Biden said that they expected Ms. Murphy to act within a few days, but that they were bracing for the possibility that political pressure from the president and his Republican allies would prevent that. In a statement on Twitter on Sunday, Jen Psaki, a transition official, gently prodded Ms. Murphy to make the announcement.

"Now that the election has been independently called for Joe Biden, we look forward to the GSA Administrator quickly ascertaining Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as the President-elect and Vice President-elect," Ms. Psaki wrote. "America's national security and economic interests depend on the federal government signaling clearly and swiftly that the United States government will respect the will of the American people and engage in a smooth and peaceful transfer of power."

Mr. Biden's transition officials were more pointed on Monday night, effectively saying that the Trump administration was reneging on promises made over the past six months to ensure a proper transfer of power if Mr. Biden won.

The officials said that they signed three separate memorandums of agreement — including one signed by Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff — that laid out the access and money Mr. Biden's team would receive in the days after the election. None of that has been allowed to proceed, they said.

The coronavirus pandemic has made office space less critical for the Biden transition team, which has been mostly meeting remotely for the past several months and will continue to do so, according to a transition official. There is a skeleton staff at the office space that was provided by the government before the election.

But once Ms. Murphy signals that the transition can begin, that office space will be expanded and equipped with computer systems that give the new administration access to classified systems and information, in addition to a secure location to have secret conversations.

If that does not happen in the coming days, the Biden administration has other options. Transition officials have private office space they can continue to use, and Mr. Biden and his team will continue to operate remotely. When the president-elect met with his pandemic advisory board on Monday, he was in Delaware and the board members were on a big screen, calling in from their homes or offices.

The bigger issue would be access to the agencies and the information they need to begin carrying out Mr. Biden's agenda. But people familiar with Mr. Biden's transition said there was a partial workaround: Many of the people still working in the federal agencies were close to Mr. Biden's advisers and might be willing to work with them to provide the unclassified information they need.

But that would not solve the problem of gaining access to classified information, which could affect the ability of Mr. Biden's national security team to prepare itself for emergencies that it may have to confront once in office. Transition officials said one specific limitation at the moment is that Mr. Biden does not have access to a secure State Department facility that is normally used to route calls from foreign leaders hoping to congratulate the newly elected president.

Mr. Biden has been making those calls, but has not been allowed to use the State Department as has been the practice after previous elections.

Mr. Trump and his allies have criticized Democrats and the news media for projecting Mr. Biden as the winner before legal challenges and recounts have been completed. But historically, the ascertainment decision by the G.S.A. administrator has not waited for the outcomes of such challenges.

In 2004, recounts in New Hampshire and Ohio were completed after the G.S.A. made a decision. And several states were decided by less than a single percentage point. In 2016, five recounts were filed after the G.S.A. announcement, and three were conducted in Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin.

Ms. Murphy is an unlikely figure to be at the center of such an explosive situation: She is a low-key bureaucrat who began her career as a Republican staff member on Capitol Hill and professes her love of procurement reform and lease renegotiations. Democrats who worked with her there said they remembered her as a diligent professional.

But her tenure at the G.S.A., which she has run since December 2017, has not been without controversy.

In 2018, House Democrats concluded that Ms. Murphy had misled them about her agency's decision to reconsider the F.B.I.'s longtime plans to relocate its aging headquarters on Pennsylvania Avenue to a suburban area. Democrats found that Mr. Trump had intervened to kill the plan, potentially because he feared that a commercial developer could turn a vacated J. Edgar Hoover Building into a hotel that would compete with his own Trump International Hotel a block away.

The G.S.A.'s inspector general found that Ms. Murphy's testimony on the matter to Congress in 2018 was "incomplete and may have left the misleading impression that she had no discussions with White House officials in the decision-making" when in fact she had, including during a visit to the Oval Office in 2017.

House Democrats have also concluded that Ms. Murphy has been slow to furnish them with documents and other information relating to the G.S.A.'s lease of the historic Old Post Office Building in Washington, the site of Mr. Trump's hotel, to the Trump Organization.


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JBB
1  seeder  JBB    2 weeks ago

Trump and Company are actively obstructing the lawful transition of administrations. If they persist they should expect to face the inevitable consequences...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    2 weeks ago
If they persist they should expect to face the inevitable consequences...

What consequences? It's all legal and above board. Resistance goes both ways, ya know

Biden gets no honeymoon.

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 weeks ago

The operative phrase being:  IF THEY PERSIST.  However, if Trump continues down this path without cause, there most certainly will be problems facing him, and those aiding him.  Period.

 
 
 
MAGA
1.1.2  MAGA  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 weeks ago

Exactly.  He faces from day one exactly what Trump did.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

Violence begets violence. Don't think the left is secure because democrat governors & DA's have protected them. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

Who are you threatening Vic ? 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    2 weeks ago
Violence begets violence. Don't think the left is secure because democrat governors & DA's have protected them.

Violence begets violence?  What in the hell are you talking about?  Are you threatening me personally, or are you saying that all United States citizens who voted for Joe Biden need to watch their backs?  And don't try to play it off like it's not a threat. 

I'm not going to flag your comment because I think it should stand in example.  But don't ever threaten me again. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.1.6  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

I see no threat to anybody. ever hear the saying “what comes around goes around”? That is what i take that comment to mean. What is it with people thinking they are being threatened? 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Gazoo @1.1.6    2 weeks ago
I see no threat to anybody. ever hear the saying “what comes around goes around”?

'Violence begets violence' is not even remotely related to 'what comes around goes around'.  

 That is what i take that comment to mean.

In prison, maybe.  Not on NT.

 
 
 
Kavika
1.1.8  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    2 weeks ago
Don't think the left is secure because democrat governors & DA's have protected them. 

That sure sounds like a threat, Vic. Tell me who on the right is going to do anything to endanger the left, you?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.1.9  Raven Wing  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

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MAGA
1.1.10  MAGA  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

I guess if BLM or Antifa attack the wrong suburb or exurb or small town as the paramilitary enforcers of the democrat party to compel compliance or coerce obedience we just might find out.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.1.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MAGA @1.1.10    2 weeks ago

OK everyone bring it down a notch. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  MAGA @1.1.10    2 weeks ago

Who are these "paramilitary enforcers of the Democratic party"?

 
 
 
MUVA
1.1.13  MUVA  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.1.7    2 weeks ago

Have you seen violence on news talkers? 

 
 
 
Gazoo
1.1.14  Gazoo  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.1.7    2 weeks ago

Depending what is meant by “those aiding him” i think comment 1.1.1  could be considered more of a threat. As far as the mention of prison, i don’t know. I’ve never been in prison so i’ll have to take your word for it.

 
 
 
MAGA
1.2  MAGA  replied to  JBB @1    2 weeks ago

She should wait until states equaling 270 electoral votes or more have officially certified their results post all recounts and court contesting affecting their electoral votes are complete.  Then she can do so.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2.1  MrFrost  replied to  MAGA @1.2    2 weeks ago
She should wait until states equaling 270 electoral votes or more have officially certified their results post all recounts and court contesting affecting their electoral votes are complete.

Is that how it was in 2016?

Nope. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

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MAGA
1.2.3  MAGA  replied to  MrFrost @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

That president was term limited and had to leave regardless of the election results 

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  MAGA @1.2.3    2 weeks ago
regardless of the election results 

Yea, we know that. 

 
 
 
freepress
2  freepress    2 weeks ago

I guess it may be the first stage of grief as denial. But ultimately the 80% of Americans that know this is over and the world leaders embracing that it's over will catch up to her and others in denial.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  freepress @2    2 weeks ago

It's not denial, just payback. Grow up and deal with it..

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
2.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 weeks ago
just payback. Grow up and deal with it..

All the grown ups have already accepted reality and know Biden won. Only sniveling little fascist juveniles in denial would be pushing for some sort of dumb fuck 'payback'. Trump and his sycophants are the very definition of sore losers. They get their asses beat at chess and all they can do is flip the board over in a pitiful display of ignorant rage.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
sniveling little fascist juveniles in denial would be pushing for some sort of dumb fuck 'payback'. 

Good way to describe those who called  themselves "the resistance" and used their government positions   to undermine the Trump Presidency from it's inception. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

After the last 5 years of BS, there are no grownups on the left.

Of course Trump was once a Democrat in good standing; so it figures he isn't a grown up either- and the Democrats are getting a good dose of their own medicine.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
2.1.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
They get their asses beat at chess and all they can do is flip the board over in a pitiful display of ignorant rage.

they play Chess ?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
2.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ronin2 @2.1.4    2 weeks ago
there are no grownups on the left.

Is what a petulant child getting spanked would declare. As we saw in 2016 as soon as the votes were in the adult conceded November 9th, 2016 even though the adult only lost by 110,000 votes in three swing States. Now the petulant child refuses to acknowledge his loss even though he lost by over 300,000 votes in those swings States. Trump and anyone refusing to accept the results of the election is a whiny little child throwing a tantrum who is in dire need of a good spanking.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
"Trump and his sycophants are the very definition of sore losers."

What a bunch of whiny little bitches.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

Holy shit. Were you sleeping in 2016 and beyond for the next four years? Trump's victory over Mrs. Clinton was still occupying the hearts and minds of MANY on the dem/lib side right up until this 2020 election. The grown ups accepted that just as you are now. Cuz their guy won. You are no better than that which you disdain.

Grow up and deal with it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 weeks ago

payback for what???? Wasn't there a smooth transition of power in 2016?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
2.1.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.8    2 weeks ago
Trump's victory over Mrs. Clinton was still occupying the hearts and minds of MANY on the dem/lib side right up until this 2020 election.

Total nonsense. The only ones bringing up Hillary were the Republicans trying to use her as a Democrat effigy to burn. Hillary conceded on 11/9/2016 and Democrats accepted the results (even though they hadn't been certified) and Democrats started the transition process and started giving Donald the PDB's. While the autopsy of how Democrats lost would go on for more than a year, examining how much Russia was involved in trashing Hillary and supporting Trump, that didn't mean that Democrats weren't accepting the results of the election.

Right now we are witnessing a full on toddler tantrum from Trump and his peons showing everyone what petty childish sore losers they truly are, though it's not a surprise to anyone who has been paying attention for the last few years.

 
 
 
PJ
3  PJ    2 weeks ago

Those that swore an oath to the Constitution but have failed to keep that oath should not be permitted to hold any future government positions.  They should also be investigated for not carrying out their duties and fined and jailed as appropriate.

 
 
 
MAGA
3.1  MAGA  replied to  PJ @3    2 weeks ago

Biden’s transition will have to wait until 270 electoral votes worth of states have certified the results and the election is actually over.  She’s on firm legal ground until then. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @3.1    2 weeks ago

Been there, done that - it's 290 compared to tRump the chumps' 217 PLUS 5 MILLION MORE VOTES THAN tRump the chump.  

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  MAGA @3.1    2 weeks ago
will have to wait until 270 electoral votes worth of states have certified the results

 accounting for states still counting, recounting, under investigation or audit, or states with election issues now in the courts

the current count is

  • trump 232
  • biden 226

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

Joe Biden will be PRESIDENT.  He has 290 electoral votes to tRumps' 214 and over 500 MILLION MORE POPULAR VOTES.

Your 'president' is a LOSER.  A billion dollars in debt LOSER.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.4  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.3    2 weeks ago
[Joe Biden has] ... over 500 MILLION MORE POPULAR VOTES.

Well, I certainly learn something new every day! Joe is a miracle maker!

The current population of the United States of America is 331,711,584 as of Thursday, November 12, 2020 , based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.4    2 weeks ago

Holy Smoke!  500 Million!

That has to be the widest margin ever!

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.6  Dulay  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.2    2 weeks ago

So I presume that in the future, you would have no issue with the next GSA to hold out for every state to certify their vote counts. The latest date for that is December 24th...

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.7  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.3    2 weeks ago
and over 500 MILLION MORE POPULAR VOTES.

over 500 million more popular votes in a country with only 300million people....

but there was no fraud?

your funny :)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  PJ @3    2 weeks ago
They should also be investigated

Speaking of "investigated",  maybe we should sent the FBI in and have them frame members of the Biden transition team. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.2.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    2 weeks ago

"the logan act" would work

give them the "flynn treatment :)

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.2  Dulay  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.2.1    2 weeks ago

What evidence do you have that anyone on the Biden team is as arrogant and stupid as Flynn? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  PJ @3    2 weeks ago

That dumb bitch needs to be one of the first to get a pink slip from Biden.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
4  igknorantzrulz    2 weeks ago

were n e expecting anything other than this type of childish emotion to ever be emitted by a petulant child who has tantrums whence things do not go his way, and his way is LOW, asz LOW asz an ASS can go, Trump will Trumpp himselfeshness, as he shares his non concern for an entire NATION , as HE, feels HE, Constitutes MORE than OUR ENTIRE NATION, in Decline

 
 
 
Tacos!
5  Tacos!    2 weeks ago

They should just proceed with the process. If Trump ends up winning, no harm no foul. If he loses, as seems likely, then the country is ready to proceed with normal business in January.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @5    2 weeks ago

He done lost.  GAME OVER MAN!

What a surprise, trumpturd supporters refuse to accept the results of the election.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1    2 weeks ago

I didn't see Trump supporters rioting.  Did you?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

I didn't see Hillary supporters rioting.  Did you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

Did you have your eyes closed?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
5.1.4  MonsterMash  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.2    2 weeks ago
I didn't see Hillary supporters rioting

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MAGA
5.1.5  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

Yes!  

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1.6  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.2    2 weeks ago

Yes who do you think burned the cities and assaulted the police officers?

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @5.1.6    2 weeks ago

Which cities were burned?  Which officers assaulted by right wingers?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.7    2 weeks ago
Which officers assaulted by right wingers?

"As protests gripped Oakland on May 29, a white van pulled up outside a federal courthouse. A door slid open, and a man peppered the two security officers outside with bullets, killing one and wounding the other."

Now, federal authorities say the man, identified as Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was an adherent of the “boogaloo boys,” a growing online right wing extremist movement that has sought to use peaceful protests against police brutality to spread fringe views and ignite a race war.

 
 
 
Kavika
5.1.9  Kavika   replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.8    2 weeks ago

Before he was captured he killed a deputy sheriff in Bouler Creek CA

 
 
 
Raven Wing
6  Raven Wing    2 weeks ago

There is an old saying that Miss Emily should learn...

"Be careful of the toes you step on today, as they could belong to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow."

 
 
 
MUVA
7  MUVA    2 weeks ago

Biden and his team is mad she is holding up funds to pay his cronies that is why they are mad they can't wait for first government  pay check.

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @7    2 weeks ago
Biden and his team is mad she is holding up funds to pay his cronies that is why they are mad they can't wait for first government  pay check.

I told you yesterday, NO ONE on the Biden team gets a 'government pay check' until AFTER Biden is inaugurated. Stop with the gaslighting bullshit. 

 
 
 
MUVA
7.1.1  MUVA  replied to  Dulay @7.1    2 weeks ago

They just want the office space you haven't a clue he we receive nearly 19 millions dollars what is that for office space?

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.2  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @7.1.1    2 weeks ago

Tell you what MUVA, PROVE that the funds are for paying his team. 

 
 
 
MUVA
7.1.3  MUVA  replied to  Dulay @7.1.2    2 weeks ago

You prove me wrong I know why they want the money and it isn’t for office space.

 
 
 
Dulay
7.1.4  Dulay  replied to  MUVA @7.1.3    2 weeks ago

To quote one of your brethren:

You aren't new here. You know how it works. You make a claim, you have to prove it.

 
 
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