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U.S. prosecutors investigating potential White House 'bribery-for-pardon' scheme | Reuters

  

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Via:  sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom  •  4 years ago  •  39 comments

By:   Jan Wolfe (U. S.)

U.S. prosecutors investigating potential White House 'bribery-for-pardon' scheme | Reuters
The U.S. Justice Department is investigating a potential crime related to funneling money to the White House in exchange for a presidential pardon, according to court documents unsealed in federal court.

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By Jan Wolfe
(Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department is investigating a potential crime related to funneling money to the White House in exchange for a presidential pardon, according to court documents unsealed in federal court.
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U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell on Tuesday released a heavily redacted order that described what she called a "bribery-for-pardon" investigation.
About half of the 18-page document was blacked out, with the publicly available version providing few details of the alleged scheme, and naming none of the people potentially involved.
It said federal prosecutors in Washington said they had obtained evidence of a bribery scheme in which someone "would offer a substantial political contribution in exchange for a presidential pardon or reprieve of sentence."
The order said prosecutors were also investigating a "secret lobbying scheme" in which two unidentified individuals "acted as lobbyists to senior White House officials, without complying with the registration requirement of the Lobbying Disclosure Act."
The Justice Department had to ask Howell's permission to view certain emails between a lawyer and clients, who were not identified.
Howell granted the request in August, saying attorney-client privilege did not apply

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    4 years ago

And yet again...what a surprise. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    4 years ago

what are you saying, Trump, could possibly be swayed by monetary influences....Preposterous, all his supporters will tell you, that's not what he meant, he didn't imply that, he didn't expect a quid per quo, he didn't pay $130,000 per Ho Ho Ho, Christmas is righjt around the corner, Donny in the slammer, nuttin could be grander...

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1.1.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.1    4 years ago
what are you saying, Trump, could possibly be swayed by monetary influences....Preposterous,

A pox upon me for even thinking such a thing.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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1.2  Gsquared  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    4 years ago

Not a surprise at all.  It would be surprising if it wasn't happening.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1.2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Gsquared @1.2    4 years ago
It would be surprising if it wasn't happening.

It would almost be insulting if it wasn't happening.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.1    4 years ago

Time to apply those immortal words to President***** Trump 

800

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.2    4 years ago

I think the better proclamation would be "Lock them up!". Trump and his enablers should be exposed and charged to the fullest extent of the law.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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1.2.4  Raven Wing   replied to  Gsquared @1.2    4 years ago
Not a surprise at all.  It would be surprising if it wasn't happening.

Indeed it is no surprise that Trump would be involved in such a scheme. He needs money for his new news show to beat Fox, and to support his campaign for his 2024 re-run for the WH again. He has no money of his own, so he has to find a way to garner money for his missions. 

Trump would happily pardon the Devil himself for a buck. He doesn't care who it is or what their crime is, just as long as they put the money up. 

As is Trumps MO, if caught he will blame it on someone else, or, he has someone else handling the deals so he can supposedly keep his hands clean. About as clean as swamp sludge. 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.2.5  Drakkonis  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.2    4 years ago

I don't understand all of the responses I'm seeing here. According to the article, there is not a single government official of any kind being investigated. It seems to be, as far as I can tell, private citizens that are being investigated. So why are you guys putting this on Trump?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Drakkonis @1.2.5    4 years ago
So why are you guys putting this on Trump?

Why would they stop now. It has NOTHING to do with Trump or, as you say, any GovCo official. Guess some are still trying to recover from TDS, quick to infect, slow to recover, even after he lost the election. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.7  Dulay  replied to  Drakkonis @1.2.5    4 years ago

Well since it has been made abundantly clear that rather than going through the Office of the Pardon Attorney in the U.S. Department of Justice for investigation and review, Trump prefers to usurp the vetting process and have private citizens go begging to him, one has to conclude that Trump is responsible for the issue. 

The filing ALSO cites the fact that the 'intermediaries' were working with the WH Counsel and lobbying WH Officials. Trump is in charge of the Executive Branch, is he not? 

Oh and WHOSE campaign were they going to 'donate' the bribery money to I wonder? 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.2.8  Drakkonis  replied to  Dulay @1.2.7    4 years ago
Well since it has been made abundantly clear

It has? 

The filing ALSO cites the fact that the 'intermediaries' were working with the WH Counsel and lobbying WH Officials. Trump is in charge of the Executive Branch, is he not? 

Yes, Trump is in charge of the executive branch. However, a careful reading of the statement doesn't indicate that this part of the investigation has anything to do with the bribery allegations. It seems to be about two individuals who did not register as lobbyists. 

Oh and WHOSE campaign were they going to 'donate' the bribery money to I wonder?

I wouldn't know. First, I don't know that any bribery charges can be supported at this time. I believe that is the purpose of the investigation. Second, if it is in fact bribery, there's no indication that any money would go anywhere other than in the pockets of the persons being investigated for the crime. I find it difficult to believe that someone who is taking such a risk in the commission of the crime would not see the money as compensation for that risk. Especially since the story seems to indicate the suspects have no official connection to Trump. I suspect this will turn out to be more in the nature of a scam than anything else, but we'll see. 

Apparently, you are satisfied with your unproven assumptions, probably because it satisfies your hatred of Trump. Who knows, you may even be proven right over the course of the investigation. For myself, I think I'll just wait and see what the investigation reveals. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.9  Greg Jones  replied to  Drakkonis @1.2.8    4 years ago

And once again the lefties salivate over unsupported allegations about Trump

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.10  Dulay  replied to  Drakkonis @1.2.8    4 years ago
It has? 

Yes. If you would like to prove it to yourself, go review the pardon documents and see how many were vetted by the Office of the Pardon Attorney. 

However, a careful reading of the statement doesn't indicate that this part of the investigation has anything to do with the bribery allegations.

Those dots need to be connected since they are on the same case docket. 

I wouldn't know. First, I don't know that any bribery charges can be supported at this time.

Sure, we all know the extent of Trump's altruism so it's totally legit that he would give a pardon to someone who donated to another politicians campaign. /s

Especially since the story seems to indicate the suspects have no official connection to Trump. 

Since it states that one of the 'suspects' worked with the WH Counsel, I would say there was SOME official connection to Trump. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2  Ronin2    4 years ago

Now all they have to do is prove it. As Clinton will attest that is damn hard to do.

President Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich is a saga of secrecy, tenacity, sleight of hand and pressure from Rich's ex-wife and one of her friends, who together have steered millions of dollars to Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton's causes and those of fellow Democrats.

Whether it is a story of bribery as well or illegal gifts from abroad is the subject of congressional inquiries and a criminal investigation by the FBI and the U.S. attorney's office in New York.

Behind the pardon is a tale of intrigue, unintentional humor and celebrity involving, among others, two former Israeli prime ministers, a onetime operative for the Mossad, a stubborn U.S. attorney and a misunderstood desire to find a rabbi in the White House.

New interviews in Israel and an examination of e-mails and documents in the hands of investigators as well as testimony before congressional committees show that Rich, 65, perhaps the wealthiest fugitive in the world, mounted an immense effort to persuade the Justice Department and then the president to cut a deal and let him come home.

Justice was skeptical, but Clinton agreed. What he got in the deal was a pledge that Rich would waive a statute-of-limitations defense should an agency, such as the Internal Revenue Service or the Energy Department, sue him for civil fraud. But experts say such a suit is unlikely. Moreover, Rich runs businesses valued at $30 billion and would not be likely to feel the pain of any financial judgment against him.

Many things about the Rich pardon are still a mystery. So far, however, this is the story of the deal that Bill Clinton did not refuse. It is marked by ongoing protest and bitterness, best symbolized, perhaps, by the fact that, as of late Saturday, a full 28 days after Clinton granted Rich his pardon, federal officials still had not removed his wanted poster from their international crime alert Web site.

The Clinton Library files reveal additional details about clemency cases pushed by Hillary Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, who acknowledged in 2001 that he urged President Bill Clinton to pardon Tennessee carnival operators, Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory, on bank fraud convictions. Rodham also said he told his sister Hillary Clinton, about the pardon request about the same time.

The Gregory pardons became the focus of a congressional inquiryin 2001, and Rodham acknowledged that he received about $325,000 from the couple over two-and-a-half years. He maintained the payments and loans were unrelated to his clemency intervention.

Hillary Clinton's critics over the years have occasionally focused on Tony Rodham's business ventures, which appeared to play on his high-level access at the White House and later at the State Department.

The newly released papers show the president and his aides acting with urgency on the Gregory case about the time the couple asked Rodham in late 1999 or early 2000 for help to clear their records of bank fraud convictions from the 1980s.

"He’s already lost 1 big contract over this," Bill Clinton wrote on a December 21, 1999 memo in which longtime Clinton counselor and lawyer Bruce Lindsey reported that the White House staff was urging the Justice Department to "complete their review" of the Gregorys' request.

So, same old same old.

I know, I know; but Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!!!!

The left will never recover from this presidency.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ronin2 @2    4 years ago

So what you are trying to establish is that it doesn't matter which party the POTUS is from, both will sell out to the highest bidder?  Well, after all, isn't America the "Land of Opportunity"?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1    4 years ago

We do know that money "talks" in China also

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.1    4 years ago

Really?  And how DO you know?  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ronin2 @2    4 years ago
who together have steered millions of dollars to Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton's causes and those of fellow Democrats.

Guess what, "steering" money to causes or campaigns you believe in isn't illegal. In fact, it's expected and totally above board. What's illegal is asking a foreign government to investigate or manufacture dirt on a personal political opponent that otherwise was not being targeted by the actual US State Department, while withholding hundreds of millions in funding.

I find it hilarious that some dumb shit conservatives believe in a fantasy "deep State" with zero evidence other than that the 'government' isn't being run the way their 8th grade drop out education thinks it should be.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2    4 years ago

Family members taking bribes to use their influence with the president is. If you had bothered to read all of the articles I linked.

What's illegal is asking a foreign government to investigate or manufacture dirt on a personal political opponent that otherwise was not being targeted by the actual US State Department, while withholding hundreds of millions in funding.

This BS again? Still as wrong as the day the Democrats used it to ram down impeachment w/o having any facts. Go ahead an find out what funds were withheld from Ukraine- we can all wait- answer is there weren't any. In fact Trump gave weapons to Ukraine- something that Obama never did.

You want to know what is illegal? Using the FBI and DOJ to spy on a political opponent. It was illegal when Nixon did it. It was just as illegal when the Obama administration did it.

I find it hilarious that TDS sufferers will never get over Trump. He will live rent free in their heads forever.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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2.3  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Ronin2 @2    4 years ago

The left will never recover from this presidency

And it will take decades for the country to heal from your savior Trump having occupied the WH.....

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.3.2  Ronin2  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.3    4 years ago

My savior?

As I have stated repeatedly I can't stand Trump. I voted for, and campaigned for, Gary Johnson first time around. I didn't do the lesser of two evils of two evils BS back then. That changed after the election and I was attacked repeated from the left. Seems voting 3rd party over the toxic Hillary Clinton isn't allowed. So from now on it is the lesser of two evils. Since right now the Democrats are by far the most evil things at every level it was straight Republican ticket for the first time ever for me.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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2.3.3  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Ronin2 @2.3.2    4 years ago

BS....You've been carrying his water and singing his praises for the last four years Ronin....

And anyone that thinks the GOP has the backs of Americans must think authoritarianism is the ticket.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.3.4  Texan1211  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.3.3    4 years ago
And anyone that thinks the GOP has the backs of Americans must think authoritarianism is the ticket.

That is simply ridiculous.

smh

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2.3.5  Ronin2  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.3.3    4 years ago

I see your BS, and raise you your perspective being slanted by rampant TDS.

While I might like some of the Trump administration policies (notice I didn't say Trump); he is not what I envision a good president to be. If you would take your D colored TDS painted glasses off you would see the Democrats have sunk beneath Trump's level of rancor. There are more of them; and they love to pile on.

In case you missed it I was very pissed at him not pulling troops out of Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq like he promised. He allowed himself to be bullied by the military, intelligence agencies, and the hawks on the right and the chicken hawks on the left. We stand nothing to gain by being in any of those countries; but there we are still.

And anyone that thinks the GOP has the backs of Americans must think authoritarianism is the ticket.

Seems you have missed several Democratic governors stabs at authoritarianism- and the all of the begging Democrats are doing for Biden to bypass the Senate and use EO's and EA's to get what they want done. But Trruuummmmppppp; and ignore all of the very traits you despise about him in the politicians you dote over.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.6  Split Personality  replied to  Ronin2 @2.3.5    4 years ago

I think you throw all Dems and libs into the same bucket of feces and gasoline

and light it a little too gleefully over and over.

It colors the way your comments are perceived,

Just sayin...yer rose colored glasses are covered with shoot.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.3.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Split Personality @2.3.6    4 years ago

think ya spelled $hiit wrong...

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     4 years ago

The swamp is percolating.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @3    4 years ago

There's a lot of gas trying to reach the surface

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4  MrFrost    4 years ago

Trump? Corruption? Fraud?

The hell ya say....jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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6  FLYNAVY1    4 years ago

Any thoughts on which high profile conservative donor  is waving cash under Trump's nose for a pardon?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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6.1  Raven Wing   replied to  FLYNAVY1 @6    4 years ago
Any thoughts on which high profile conservative donor  is waving cash under Trump's nose for a pardon?

Try Rudy Giuliani for one. He is begging Trump for prepardon, as he knows he is going to be changed for several crimes that can lead to long prison sentences. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Raven Wing @6.1    4 years ago

Ya cannot pardon someone you owe money to.

Of course, no common sense has stopped Donald yet.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @6    4 years ago

Ghislaine Maxwell

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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6.2.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2    4 years ago

That was the one name that came to mind......

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @6.2.1    4 years ago

Somebody suggested somewhere else that she knows where all the bodies are buried so it may be an attempt at extortion

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.2    4 years ago

anyone that can incriminate trump or his defective spawn can expect a pardon shortly.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @6    4 years ago
which high profile conservative donor  is waving cash under Trump's nose for a pardon?

No one is waving cash under Trump's anything. Read. No GovCo officials are being investigated. Sounds to me like it is all in the private sector wishful thinking................and probably scamming the hell out of someone on a whim that $$$ will cure their ills.

 
 

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