Liz Cheney says the GOP risks becoming known as 'the party of white supremacy'
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Via: john-russell • 3 years ago • 109 commentsBy: tcolson@businessinsider.com (Thomas Colson) 2 hrs ago (MSN)
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- Rep. Liz Cheney said the GOP needed to "make clear we aren't the party of white supremacy."
- Cheney, a Republican, said her party must speak out against the hate symbols seen at the Capitol riot.
- She said Republicans have "a duty and obligation to stand against that, to stand against insurrection."
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Republican Rep. Liz Cheney said her party needed to act to prevent the GOP from becoming known as "the party of white supremacy," by standing against the extreme views promoted by Trump supporters during the Capitol riot on January 6.
Cheney pointed to the fact that members of the pro-Trump mob which stormed the Capitol building in Washington, DC, January had displayed symbols of anti-Semitism, Holocaust denial, and Confederate flags.
She said that Republicans now had a "duty and obligation to stand against that, to stand against insurrection."
"It's very important for us to ignore the temptation to look away," Cheney, who is the third highest-ranking House Republican, said on Tuesday during an online event hosted by the Reagan Institute as reported by CBS News.
"You certainly saw anti-Semitism. You saw the symbols of Holocaust denial... you saw a Confederate flag being carried through the rotunda.
She added: "It's very important, especially for us as Republicans, to make clear that we aren't the party of white supremacy."
Cheney was one of ten House GOP members who voted for a second time to impeach President Trump for his incitement in relation to the Capitol riot on January 6.
She has since become one of the most outspoken critics of the former president for his alleged role in the insurrection, charges of which Trump was ultimately acquitted.
Her comments underline the division in the GOP as it looks to establish its identity in the post-Trump era. Cheney faced a significant backlash within the GOP for crossing party lines to vote with Democrats in Trump's impeachment trial.
She has defended her decision, insisting she was "compelled" to vote against Trump.
"Somebody who has provoked an attack on the United States Capitol to prevent the counting of electoral votes, which resulted in five people dying, who refused to stand up immediately when he was asked to stop the violence ...that is a person who does not have a role as the leader of our party going forward," she said after the vote.
Axios reported earlier this month that House Minority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy asked Cheney to apologize for voting against Trump, saying her colleagues wanted to hear her say sorry.
The request, which Cheney refused, came before a closed House GOP conference meeting, at which colleagues voted overwhelmingly for Cheney to keep her position as GOP conference chairwoman.
Cheney also backed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's plans to create an independent commission into the Capitol insurrection which she compared to the bipartisan commission into the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Pelosi announced the creation of a commission earlier in February and said it would "investigate and report on the facts and causes relating to the January 6, 2021 domestic terrorist attack upon the United States Capitol Complex."
Per CBS, Cheney said the commission should take a "clear-eyed look" into Trump's repeated allegation that November's presidential elections had been "stolen" from him, as well as the media organizations which promoted Trump's false claims.
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Donald Trump owns the loyalty of the Republican Party, lock stock and barrel. Which means Liz Cheney will be ignored and eventually lose her position in Congress. And white supremacists and neo-Confederates and racists will still be Trumps base and a considerable part of the Republican Party. I do give Cheney credit though for speaking out against the place her party is in these days. She waited too long though and she can't stop them now.
Liz and so many other republicans had so many opportunities to steer away from the Trump iceberg since 2015. Too late to do anything about it now. The GOP is holed below the waterline and is sinking under the weight of the white supremacists that are onboard.
Too little too late Liz (like a hundred years).
Here is a video some people will find interesting, although it is a little long . You can skip the first 30 seconds, but after that it gets right into the heart of it.
www.justsecurity.org /74504/movie-at-the-ellipse-a-study-in-fascist-propaganda/
Movie at the Ellipse: A Study in Fascist Propaganda
On January 6, Trump supporters gathered at a rally at Washington DC’s Ellipse Park, regaled by various figures from Trump world, including Donald Trump Jr. and Rudy Giuliani. Directly following Giuliani’s speech, the organizers played a video. To a scholar of fascist propaganda, well-versed in the history of the National Socialist’s pioneering use of videos in political propaganda, it was clear, watching it, what dangers it portended. In it, we see themes and tactics that history warns pose a violent threat to liberal democracy. Given the aims of fascist propaganda – to incite and mobilize – the events that followed were predictable.
Before decoding what the video presents, it is important to take a step back and discuss the structure of fascist ideology and how it can mobilize its most strident supporters to take violent actions.
I. The Fascist Framework
Increasingly central to Trumpism is the QAnon conspiracy theory, which, as many commentators have now pointed out , closely resembles Nazi anti-Semitic myths. QAnon is just the most obvious manifestation of the increasing parallels between Trumpism and Hitler’s framework itself. Indeed, several contemporary fascist and white supremacist movements find similar roots in the framework Hitler developed, even if they did not culminate in such extreme actions as the Nazis.
Fascist thought
Chapter 2 of Mein Kampf , Hitler’s first and most famous book, is entitled “Years of Study and Suffering in Vienna.” In it, he documents what he describes as his gradual realization that behind the various institutions of power were the Jews. His enlightenment supposedly begins with the entertainment industry, where he remarks that “[t]he fact that nine tenths of all literary filth, artistic trash, and theatrical idiocy can be set to the account of a people, constituting hardly one hundredth of all the country’s inhabitants, could simply not be talked away; it was plain truth.” But it was, Hitler writes, when he “recognized the Jew as the leader of the Social Democracy” that “the scales fell from [his] eyes.” Hitler describes a growing sense, foundational to the ideology the book delineates, the ideology of Nazism, that Jews were controlling the apparatus of the state, both as important party politicians in the Social Democratic Party, and as operators behind the scenes of the press and other institutions.
In Nazi ideology, Jews are represented by an unholy alliance between Jewish capitalists and Jewish communists. The goal of the Jewish plot is to destroy national states, replacing them by a world government run by Jews. This diabolical Jewish plot involves destroying the character of individual nations, by flooding them with immigrants, and empowering minority populations. Hitler describes the German loss in World War I as part of this plan, a “stab in the back” of the German people by Jewish traitors seeking the ruin of the nation. In Nazi ideology, liberal democracy is represented as a corruption, a mask for this takeover by a global elite. Hitler reveals his true attitude toward liberalism in Mein Kampf , when he writes (in the characteristically sexist terms of Nazi ideology):
Fascism is a patriarchal cult of the leader, who promises national restoration in the face of supposed humiliation by a treacherous and power-hungry global elite, who have encouraged minorities to destabilize the social order as part of their plan to dominate the “true nation,” and fold them into a global world government. The fascist leader is the father of his nation, in a very real sense like the father in a traditional patriarchal family. He mobilizes the masses by reminding them of what they supposedly have lost, and who it is that is responsible for that loss – the figures who control democracy itself, the elite; Nazi ideology is a species of fascism in which this global elite are Jews.
The future promised by the fascist leader is one in which there are plentiful blue collar jobs, reflecting the manly ideals of hard work and strength. In Nazi propaganda, many white collar jobs, the domain of Jews – running department stores, banking – were for the idle. And the fascist nation’s heart and soul is the military – as Hitler writes, “[w]hat the German people owes to the army can be briefly summed up in a single word, to wit: everything.” The fascist future is a kind of restoration of a glorious past, but a modern version – replete with awesome technology that glorifies the nation to the world. The German V-2 rocket was a characteristic representation of Nazi might. The fascist future is, in the famous description of Jeffrey Herf, a kind of reactionary modernism .
Fascist propaganda
Fascism uses propaganda as a way of mobilizing a population behind the leader. Fascist propaganda creates an awesome sense of loss, and a desire for revenge against those who are responsible. In the face of the supposed betrayal of the nation during World War I by Jewish “vipers,” Hitler describes the proper response to have been to place the “leaders of the whole movement…behind bars.” Hitler writes, “[a]ll the implements of military power should have been ruthlessly used for the extermination of this pestilence. The parties should have been dissolved, the Reichstag brought to its senses, with bayonets if necessary, but, best of all, dissolved at once.” The goal of fascist propaganda is to mobilize a population to violently overthrew multi-party democracy and replace it with the leader.
Fascism is not an ideology consigned to Europe. Black American intellectuals from W.E.B. Du Bois to Toni Morrison have spoken of American fascism. America has a long history of anti-Semitism similar to Nazi anti-Semitism, central to the ideology not just of the Ku Klux Klan, but to Henry Ford’s “The International Jew.” In its American version, communist Jews supposedly use Black liberation movements, control of Hollywood, and labor unions to destroy the nation in the service of a global elite. We should not be surprised at all by the rise of a fascist movement in the United States. And if it does arise, it would be no surprise if it did so in the party that keeps alive the “lost cause” myths of the American South.
II. The Movie Shown at the Ellipse
This history, both European and American, illuminates the dangers we face today, laid bare in the video. In it, Trump is repeatedly represented as the nation’s father figure. It is laced through with images of masculinity, and mournful loss at the hands of traitors, clearly justifying a violent restoration of recent glory.
The video begins with Trump’s eyes in the shadow, and its second frame focuses the audience on the Capitol building – America’s Reichstag, where the decisions being denounced by the rally’s organizers were being made that day. The third frame of the video is the Hollywood sign in Los Angeles. This image immediately directs the attention of an audience attuned to an American fascist ideology to the supposedly elite class of Jews who, according to this ideology, control Hollywood. The appearance of the Hollywood sign makes no other sense in the context of a short video about an election. The next two images, of the UN General Assembly and the EU Parliament floor, connect supposed Jewish control of Hollywood to the goal of world government. As we have seen, according to Nazi ideology, Jews seek to use their control of the press and the entertainment industry to destroy individual nations. The beginning of the video focuses our attention on this supposedly “globalist,” but really Jewish, threat.
The next clip lingers on Joe Biden, with a vacant stare in his eyes and the video footage slowed, while Trump’s inauguration speech plays, “For too long, a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government, while the people have borne the cost.” It is clear from the image of Biden that he is not making the decisions. The video shifts to an image of Senator Charles Schumer, reminding the viewer of prominent Jewish leaders of the Democratic party. Schumer is wearing a Kente cloth, an image evocative of Ku Klux Klan ideology — that Jews support Black liberation movements as a way to undermine white rule and destroy the nation. The next frame shows the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, flanked by two Jewish Congressman, Representatives Nadler and Schiff. Pelosi, too, is controlled by Jews.
Who, then, are this “small group in our nation’s capital”? The video suggests it is a group that controls Hollywood and the Democratic Party, and seeks to use Black liberation movements to undermine the nation, and bring about world government. In Nazi ideology, as well as its US counterpart, this group is the Jews. And what are the costs? As the inauguration speech continues, “The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of this our country;” gunshots are fired and we are shown images of these citizens betrayed by a duplicitous establishment – mournful pictures of coffins of veterans, homeless encampments, and a series of slides varying between nostalgic images of white American families over dinner with rural destitution – a worn down home flying a large American flag with an old pickup truck in front. At the end of these grim scenes of the results of elite betrayal, Trump declares, “This all ends right here, right now.”
As the music surges, what follows is a series of photos taken during Trump’s first term. This phase of the video begins with images of enormous naval ships on the ocean, and moves to images of Trump striding in front of a military guard at a football game, the iconic sport of American masculinity (hence the very particular danger of the Black quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s challenge to white supremacy). It is followed by rally after rally with adoring masses cheering Trump. The images of women overcome with emotion at the sight of the nation’s father figure, and violent anger at his political enemies, are interspersed with heavy machinery in factories, churning out huge new pick-up trucks, fighter jets streaking across the sky, and Trump striding across the screen framed by the powerful American imagery of the Lincoln Memorial. A Black man and a white man are shown in brotherhood at a Trump rally. Trump is shown observing powerful rockets launch, images evocative, for those schooled in history, of the Nazi’s own obsession with this particular technology.
After these scenes of Trump’s glorious leadership, the restoration of American rocket technology dominance, the mood shifts, as we are shown former Attorney General Bill Barr swearing in at what appears to be a deposition, followed by a smirking Joe Biden. Treachery has entered in, stage left.
What follows is scene after scene of immense loss. Empty streets of great American cities, a forlorn white woman peering out of a window, trapped at home. Scrabble pieces spelling “FEAR” appear and disappear within less than a second, empty chairs at a school, a sign reading “closed.” We see an image of the Supreme Court, followed by what appears to be a Black Lives Matter rally on a street emblazoned with “DEFUND THE POLICE.” Joe Biden appears in a forlorn photo in a gym, speaking to a lone man in a chair – Biden is here a petitioner, not a commander. The video switches back to a representation of glorious Trump years – a rising stock market, more fighter planes, a Black man and a white man with a “Jesus Saves” shirt embracing in brotherhood – a reference to the power of a shared Christian identity to bond Americans across racial lines. It ends with the screen filling with a powerful image of Trump’s face, showing steely resolve.
The message of the video is clear. America’s glory has been betrayed by treachery and division sown by politicians seeking to undermine and destroy the nation. To save the nation, one must restore Trump’s rule.
Each of us can decide what moral responsibility Trump personally has for a video to rouse his supporters at the rally. How much of a role the White House or Trump himself may have played in deciding to show the video and sequencing it immediately after Giuliani’s speech, we don’t know. But it is worth noting that the New York Times recently reported that by early January, “the rally would now effectively become a White House production” and, with his eye ever on media production, Trump micromanaged the details. “The president discussed the speaking lineup, as well as the music to be played, according to a person with direct knowledge of the conversations. For Mr. Trump, the rally was to be the percussion line in the symphony of subversion he was composing from the Oval Office,” the Times reported.
* * *
Worldwide, there have been many fascist movements. Not all fascist movements focus on a global Jewish conspiracy as the enemy, and not all of them were genocidal. Early on, Italian fascism was not anti-Semitic in its core, though it later turned that way. British fascism was not genocidal (though it also was never given the opportunity to be). The most influential fascist movement that takes a shadowy Jewish conspiracy as its central target is German fascism, Nazism. Nazism did not start out in genocide. It began with militias and violent troops disrupting democracy. In its early years in power, in the 1930s, it was socialists and communists who were targeted for the Concentration Camps, torture, and murder. But it must never be forgotten where Nazism culminated.
Editor’s note: Thanks to Justin Hendrix ( @justinhendrix ) for work with Just Security editors on this project.
Top image: “Save America March,” rally at the Ellipse, Washington, DC, Jan. 6, 2021 (AP Photo/John Minchillo)heh, that train left the station over 50 years ago ...
Too late.
Thank Liz but you're a couple of years behind on that observation.
Just a couple Kavika? Didn't Trump champion the birther movement in back in 2010? What happened on 6JAN21 had it's roots at least back that far.
And just how many "Tea Party" types owe their current congressional seats to those lies?
OK, since at least 2008...
It can be summarized (for starters) in a few sentences.
Trump intended to run for president in 2012. But he had no base of support in the Republican Party. He decided to appeal to the "tea party" segment by going after Obama's "background" namely his birth certificate. This was a purely racist play. It didnt work in 2011 because Obama humiliated Trump by releasing his long form birth certificate and making Trump look like a fool. Trump then bided his time until the next election but put a different spin on the racism since Obama was not a factor in 2016. Trump's political advancement has always been hinged to white grievance and racism.
You nailed it John.
This too I believe was a pivotal moment and hardened rumps focus.
Trump has no measurable sense of humor. Never trust a person that can't laugh especially at themselves. There is obviously something wrong with them.
Trump didn't have a dog either..... Can't trust that either.
President Donald Trump needs a dog and sense of humor, not mean tweets (usatoday.com)
I think there is a lot of truth to that but not 100%. I think that Trump would have run in 2016 even if Obama had not mocked him at that White House Correspondents dinner. Trump had always wanted to be president one day, I think.
More proof that Trump was a lousy business man....
Someone good at business has the mind of a chess player. They are able to see many moves ahead in the game. Trump is incapable of seeing the "long game" in both politics and business.
Brilliant
I saw this kind of racism in NC back in the 90's. ALL of the white racists were Republicans, a lot of them were also Klan or Aryan Nation.
'Risks becoming known as?'
Risks? Where's she been? The gop is already there!
Sounds like Liz has bitten down on a moving bullet. Fortunately for Dems, she is far too sane for Donald's den of dotards to ever pass on the reins of leadership to her.
True, but Liz and those like here are an endangered species in the Trump Party.
But they didn't, and they don't have the integrity or principles to do it, as the vast majority of them (and their followers) have already established - to the EXTREME of denouncing those of their numbers who did and do.
Racism is now an essential element in the Republican platform.
What a crock.
Where do you get that from?
Show me in the Republican platform where you read that.
Hey Tex, asz eye C it, sum X's there R x factors, inferred, and know, no infrared light need bee buzzing and turned awning, to protect them from seeing watt many hear, not always there in sew many words stitched in via the meaning of others whence used inappropriately, asz they can be torn out, and WARN, on peep holes seen, worm on their sleeves, the right and left, two bare arms, as four wards were never used to say we're going backwards now, now, R they....now ////???
I asked for proof from the Republican platform, not a bunch of gobbledy-gook.
I can get that crap from a two-year-old's scribblings.
Get it from the scribblings of two year olds then, cause you can't understand it back there, or whatever when, so try, try it again, yet i still doubt you will see:
Hey Tex, as I see it, some times there are X factors, inferred , and No, no infrared light need be buzzing and turned on, to protect them from seeing what many hear/here, not always there in so many words stitched in via the meaning of others, whence used inappropriately, as they can be torn out, and worn/warn, on peoples seen/scene. Worn on their sleeves, the right and left, two bear/bare arms, as four/forwards/words were never used to say, we're going backwards/backwords now, but now, are they....now ?
\Really not that difficult Tex, there is hidden meanings to different people when words are read or heard, by different people. There is NO DOUBT what Trump's words were MEANT to bring about, but you'll be lying to readers and yourself again, no doubt , when you spout, about how they are only meant to be taken one way, and this you have continually stated and i predict will continue to say , but unlike Burger King, you can't always get it, your way...
so you don't have any proof either, as I knew beforehand.
you could have saved yourself the trouble of all the little cutesy plays on words and simply said you didn't have any to start with.
if you are so complexly simple, that you cannot obtain the true inferred meaning of words that hide not much, how is it you get through your simple life ?
your pretense at intellectual superiority amuses me greatly
it amuses both of us , obviously then
keep entertaining us then!
I don't even know why you engage. I have been able to understand about 10 percent of what he writes. I bet he doesn't even understand it.
it is rather funny in a childish way!
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They know it is not going to work, but they have enough sheep to believe it, so to them, it will be true.,
Just look at the facts. Yes, there are more minorities in the democratic party (for now), but all of their leadership is white liberals. Look what happened during the past democratic primaries. All of the minorities and women dropped out essentially at the same time to make room for the old, white liberal.
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bwah ha ha ha, [deleted.]
Speaking of dumbass comments...
Now, do you have anything to say that refutes what I posted? [deleted]
On top of that, the only reason why any minority has chair of a committee is because the old white liberal lady let them have it.
Why, do you have a problem with minorities ? Cause that's the way it reads...
What is the term.... beyond a reasonable doubt?
See 9.1.4
Then you need to take it up with the old white liberal woman who is the Speaker of the House. She determines who is chair heads.
An old, white lady is telling minorities what they can and can;t be,
How many minorities ran for president on the GOP ticket in 2020? How many minorities were in the trump admin? 1?
Uh, none...because Trump was the incumbent.
Derp...
Well, I think those saying the Republicans are becoming the Trump Party with all his white supremist dog whistles might be correct.
Funny how only liberals hear those "dog whistles".
Liz Chenney isn't what most people would call liberal. It is funny you should think so though.
he didn't claim Cheney heard them.
Isn't Cheney saying she did? That would make his statement incorrect in either - Cheney is a liberal OR liberals aren't the only ones willing to tell the truth. It's one or or the other here.
Where does it say Cheney heard dog whistles? She made a statement of which is her opinion.Most Liberals take that opinion and hear dog whistles...whistles that don't exist.
quote her then
He won't. [Deleted]
Sounds like you
Piss off! I have a life outside this partisan shit pool and don't answer to you. The Republican Party under Trump is fractured. Since the height of the Tea Party racist xenophobic populist bitches are taking over, pushing aside anyone that doesn't think the same way. Talk about cancel culture! Keep it up, it's a gift to Democrats.
This is Liz Cheney..
Those people are all over telling anyone who'll listen they were following Trump at his insistence. Why? Trump dog whistles. Go ahead and defend them. Defend Trump like you always do. Turn those gaslights up to high!
Nope...my comment stands.
This coming from the person who reads zero links and uses emojis as the primary response.
LMMFAO!!!
The citation is from House Freedom Caucus Chairman Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.).
Yes. I was hoping more people like Cheney would rise up now that Trump is out, but apparently the idiots are running the asylum. Or at least trying to anyway.
Not enough people in the GOP ranks with conscience or a spine...... I'm no fan of Cheney due to her politics, but I applaud her honesty about the facts.
They keep eating each other there will be no GOP. There will only be whiny little Trumplican Populists in a little tent. We'll see how many "Independents" run in the mid-term.
At least fifty million of them...
That's significantly less than a 1/4 of the total 331.42M US population.
That's a lot of people.
In contrast the number of Hispanics in the US (2019) was 60.48M.
It's still a lot of people...
Would you ignore them?
No. I would oppose them as I have been doing. They are dangerous and deluded with self importance. Don't feed that shit, it's what they crave.
So... don't you think it's important to keep in mind that there are a lot of them, and that they mobilize?
2022 doesn't look good.
They dipped their feet in the water of white nationalism back in 2009, were embarrassingly complicit thru 2017, and embraced it whole heartily January 6, 2021. At this point, it's hard to tell if they are even American anymore.
that's pretty funny.
actually, pretty sad
What a load of bs.
I have been a Republican since the second term of Clinton. I have been married to an Asian woman for over 30 years. I have a stepson that is full Filipino, who is married to a Japanese woman, and they have 2 kids. Show me where my supremist nationalism is....and don't ever accuse veterans of not being American.....even though we gave up most of our adult lives so that you can spew that bs freely.
Are you taking PJ's post personally ?
Hell, no.
I'm STILL laughing at it!
Thank you for your service, but, wasn't that YOUR choice to serve ? And , do you think the people that stormed the Capital Building, were being 'American', while attempting to "STOP THE STEAL", even though THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE of any damn STEAL, in fact, just the opposite. Did you hear Mitch the Bitch's statements about Trump and his damn LIES about a stolen Election...????As they were priceless, and so damn hypocritical he SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED, but it seems obvious, the gop base isn't bright enough to see through much of ANYTHING ,, when Trump is involved. Our Nation is embarrassingly ignorant, and it should never be the rule, yet it somehow has become, as we witness from how blatantly obvious , that is day as plain, extraordinary efforts have been applied to make people the opposite of sane, in so many words and ways, people have been, and continue to be acting, 'Un-American' and that can't be denied, cause trump should have been REMOVED , LONG AGO ! Liz is saying all the TYRUE things now, yet, WHERE THE FCK WAS SHE FOR 5 DAMN YEARS, counting Dick's money gained illegally from her FATHERS' Mushroom Clouded Illusion as to WHY we had to INVADE THE WRONG COUNTRY, IRAQ ? Cause I HATE the name Cheney after that BULLSHIT, where as the man chosen by Bush to find him a VP, chooses HIMSELF, and as he was former head at Haliburton, you know, the Company that has PROFITED THE MOST off of Afghanistan and IRAQ WARS, whatever could have been his motives....to push to invade a country that had nothing that we are aware of, to mdo with 9/11. They were almost as innocent as say, Saudi Arabia, you know, where 17 of the 18 or so hijackers CAME FROM. But that's another story, but i think you get my gist, cause i'm still plenty pist, we missed the wrong country to invade, but hey, probably an honest mistake, cause i know if it were Trump, he'd of been given a pass, and a break.
Then you of all people should be able to recognize racism and the rise of white nationalism better than most. Are you saying that there hasn't been a rise in white nationalism under Trump, and that they are not supporters of Trump and his racist statements?
I started reading this but quickly lost interest because it simply became a rabid rant on just about everything that makes no difference.
No, I don't. What I will tell you is that the only racism my wife has ever faced was by blacks. She has been told to go back to her country.
She was robbed by two armed black guys outside my driveway one night when she got home from work. She could not leave the house for 3 weeks because of the trauma.
When she finally was able to go back to work, she told a co worker that when she walks down the street and passes a young black male, she is very nervous. This is an understandable to a traumatic event. A black co worker ran to the administrator and told her that my wife made a racist statement. She was put on admin leave without even being asked what she said. My wife demanded a hearing, and when the truth came out, she was reinstated with full pay and the person that made the accusation was put on a temporary unpaid vacation for making false accusations.
White nationalism exists...it always has, but the FBI has reported no more that 5-8 thousand white supremists IN THE COUNTRY. Not exactly an uprising.
I asked you this question a couple of times a short while ago and you never responded, so here it is again.
If you think the riot of January 6 was domestic terrorism, shouldn't you also say the same about BLM and ANTIFA, which has caused far more damage and death in the past couple years than all supremist groups have caused, ever.
No, I don't, but it should be considered a sweeping generalization because of this...
"They" dipped their
"They" is referring to all republicans or trump supporters.
No, I don't, but it should be considered a sweeping generalization because of this...
"They" dipped their
"They" is referring to all republicans or trump supporters.
168 dead
okc bombing occurred during the last few years?
McVeigh was a white supremacist now?
Maybe he counts a decade as a year? Lol
Decade?
That's a full generation ago.
Yeah, about three (a few) decades ago.
Bugsy said 10.2.7
For your reading pleasure.
Wow - I've never heard that argument before....... Let me guess - you couldn't possibly be racist either because you have a black friend .
Did you know many slave owners fucked their female slaves. It didn't mean they weren't racists. It just meant they didn't discriminate where they stuck their pricks.
I stand by my statement about republicans.
You sure do, because that is what hatred of those that don't think like you feel, with no proof.
"you couldn't possibly be racist either because you have a black friend".
I do have several, actually. Thanks for pointing that out.
My black friends don't play victim like many minorities do.
I am sick and tired of hearing many minorities say that whites need to be cancelled, white supremacy is running the country because the person they hate more than they love this country has strong support from most whites, so that must be supremacy in action.
I'm getting tired of hearing many blacks accusing white supremacy and slavery because they want to open their schools and not have their children go down the same path many blacks have chosen, single parent, poverty, no responsibility for the kids you have or help produce, then blame the government and whitey for your problems.
I'm getting tired of hearing many blacks complain about supremacy by calling all cops racist, even though there are black cops. I'm also getting tired of hearing blacks complain that they are getting killed disproportionately by cops, but do absolutely nothing to stop being 13 percent of the population, but cause more than half of all crimes in this country.
I'm getting tired of hearing many blacks say they should get reparations from slavery that happened...and ended 210 years ago. I would like to have anyone point out anyone alive today that had anything to do with slavery. Years ago Dave Chappel put out a skit if what would happen if blacks get reparations. The sad thing is it is probably closer to the truth than being a comedy skit.
I'm getting tired of hearing people like Kamala Harris saying blacks got and died from COVID disproportionately from other races, but failed to mention the many, many stories we have heard over the last year of many blacks holding block parties, house parties, posting pictures on social media with zero masks or zero distancing. This includes dumbass celebrities who hold large birthday parties with the same zero mask or distancing, then "apologize" when they are called out.
What these people need to do is Stop your bitching, take some responsibility for your actions and be productive members of society........and stop blaming "white supremacy fr all your failures".
I don't disagree with any of your points. Where we differ is that I don't think there are very fine people on both sides. I don't support taking children from their parents and putting them in cages.
Weird how your guy disparaged and blamed Asians for Covid leading to an unprecedented increase in attacks against them.. I'm sure the attackers are very fine people but I don't recommend you take the wife to any trump events with you. She's not white enough for that crowd..
Both sides have dumbasses. Both sides have people who have beliefs that are outside the norms, but if you did not know their views, you might think they are pretty good people to be friends with.
"I don't support taking children from their parents and putting them in cages".
Then you are not a fan of Obama, because he is the one that started that policy.
"Weird how your guy disparaged and blamed Asians for Covid leading to an unprecedented increase in attacks against them".
No, he disparaged Chinese leaders for allowing the virus to escape from a Chinese lab. If people are attacking Asians, then blame them, not Trump.
Many of those on the left really need to learn what personal responsibility is, and blaming others for their failures simply adds to those failures.
BOTH SIDES DO IT
Nooooooww you're getting it.
No, what trump and his supporters have done and continue to do is NOT equal to what some on the left have done. Trump and his supporters tried to overthrow the government. That is anti American and anti democratic.
Anyone who supports trump doesn't support our constitution, our laws, our principles, or our values as a country and a people.
PJ I would not have agreed with that statement till trump really tried to physically take our country over.
Now I 100 percent agree. NO ONE should be allowed to get away with what trump has done. To see this man still have a place in the politics of America makes me shutter.
What slavery ended 210 years ago? That was 1810. If you are referring to the end of the slave trade (importation of slaves) which ended in 1808 , that did not end slavery in the United States.
You are the kind of person who decides society wide issues based on anecdotal evidence. I know white people who had parties and get togethers without masks or social distancing, so what?
Not to mention the photos that were in the national news showing WHITE PEOPLE partying at huge get togethers
Memorial Day 2020 , Lake of the Ozarks
What the hell is your point?
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[It's called self responsibility.]
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They're not the ones having house parties, larges gatherings - it's the dumb inbred turds/supporters of the former occupant of the White House.
There's that dog whistle again. . .
That again...only you hear.
Why is that?
Lol too late for that. When the KKK and Neo-Nazis make up your most hardcore base, you are definitely the party of white supremacists.
Hilarious as usual.
I swear when some want to go all out idiotic, its one of those "hold my beer"moments.
WHAT ABOUT
Huh?
I was struck by the variety of your debate technique.
I guess that's true as you have not been able to rebut any of them.
Moron says what?