A predictable verdict and the appeals that will follow.

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  3 weeks ago  •  166 comments

A predictable verdict and the appeals that will follow.
Hennepin County Judge Peter Cahill said the court is in recess, "until we hear from the jury." Jury deliberation could take hours, days or weeks. The jury consists of six White people and six people who are Black or multiracial.

The Jury has reached a decision. Three different charges and a boat load of evidence and within a mere 9 hours the jury has arrived at a decision. The film evidence was damning & traumatic. Large crowds have rapidly gathered outside the courthouse. More than 3,000 National Guard soldiers, along with State and local police officers have been put in place to protect whatever it is that officials decide to protect.

The Verdict:

Murder 2 - Guilty   Murder 3 - Guilty  Manslaughter - Guilty  (as expected)






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This may be the strongest case ever for a jury tainted by unfavorably publicity.


The judge in the Chauvin trial stated Monday that inflammatory remarks by Representative Maxine Waters could lead to the trial being “overturned” on appeal. Waters had called for demonstrators to “get more confrontational” and protest in the streets if no guilty verdict was reached in the case.

First of all, at the very time that the city of Minneapolis was giving the defendant the fair trial he is due under the Constitution and a jury was being selected, the City Council, unanimously, chose that very moment to award the family of George Floyd a $27 Million settlement. Right or wrong, that was not the time to do that. 

Second was the vitriol that an elected US official, Maxine Waters spewed amongst a group of protesters, which was not only wrong, but intimidating for all that were involved in the case. Today the ignoramus who was elected president only 3 months ago added to that. Much gasoline has been thrown on the fire.


One or more appeals is now all but certain.


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Fresh off the press.

As predicted.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

As predicted.

Agreed. He was obviously guilty, so I am not shocked at all that he was found guilty. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @1.1    3 weeks ago

 The jury and justice system performed better than political critics predicted or behaved themselves as they condoned violent protests and demanded a guilty verdict from afar.

As I predicted.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

He was guilty vic. The End. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

If that's all there was, we wouldn't have heard about it 24/7 for almost a year.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 weeks ago

Gee, this sounds exactly word for word what that bigot Tucker Carlson said.  'As predicted'

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!

YES!  YES!  YES!

JUSTICE!  JUSTICE!  JUSTICE!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2    3 weeks ago

No looting tonight?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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2.1.1  MonsterMash  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    3 weeks ago
No looting tonight?

Gotta have celebration looting, burning, and riots

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MonsterMash @2.1.1    3 weeks ago
But then again what else is new. 

We'll have to wait and see tonight.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

I suspect the riots will continue out west.

no matter the verdict.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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2.1.4  Thrawn 31  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

If you are talking about Portland, then probably. As I have said before, I don’t think those people even know what they are rioting or whatever about. Whatever message they started out with was lost a long time ago, now they are a bunch of inconsiderate douchebags making other people’s lives difficult for no reason.

Is that still going on? Haven’t heard anything about it in awhile.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @2.1.4    3 weeks ago

still going on, still acting like fools

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

They are still lingering in the streets. It's funny how we all began from the same place at the end of May (the 25th) 2020. We were all horrified by that cell phone video. Yet here we are with the media offering a narrative and our newly elected officials backing it up and certain cities ravaged by riots. The rest of us waiting for another election.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.5    3 weeks ago
still acting like fools

Like revolutionaries making demands.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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2.1.8  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.6    3 weeks ago
The rest of us waiting for another election.

Live your life, don't spend it waiting (for anything).

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @2.1.8    3 weeks ago

A bit of philosophy?  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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2.1.10  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.9    3 weeks ago

Just a thought.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @2.1.10    3 weeks ago

Here's another: "Live and let live."

 
 
 
pat wilson
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2.1.12  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    3 weeks ago

I prefer to Live and Let Die, a la 007.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
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2.1.13  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    3 weeks ago

Seriously?  When has the looting ever stopped?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @2.1.12    3 weeks ago

We know.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.1.13    3 weeks ago

Why would consequence free looting ever end?

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.16  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.15    3 weeks ago

Is it your ridiculous posit that NO ONE has been arrested and/or prosecuted for looting Vic? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.14    3 weeks ago

Who is 'we'?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.16    3 weeks ago

Nope, some were arrested and few have been prosecuted.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.19  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.17    3 weeks ago
Who is 'we'?

The rational readers.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.20  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.18    3 weeks ago

Prove that Vic. I won't be holding my breath. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.21  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.19    3 weeks ago
"The rational readers."

Who are 'they'?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    3 weeks ago
"No looting tonight?"

You should go ahead without me.  

No thanks!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.23  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.20    3 weeks ago
Prove that Vic. I won't be holding my breath. 

It will be a pleasure:











 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.24  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.23    3 weeks ago
It will be a pleasure:

Then why didn't you do so Vic. 

Only ONE of your links even mentions looting and that doesn't include anything from the actual person responsible for prosecuting those charges OR any data on how many looters are being arrested and/or prosecuted. 

Utter fail. Try harder Vic. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.24    3 weeks ago

All my links prove the double standard of justice. The one every moral decent human being acknowledges.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.26  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.25    3 weeks ago
All my links prove the double standard of justice. The one every moral decent human being acknowledges.

If only that was the topic. It isn't. 

YOU set the scenario Vic, 'consequence free looting'. 

What you've done since is prove that there WERE consequences. Well done Vic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.27  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.26    3 weeks ago
What you've done since is prove that there WERE consequences. Well done Vic.

Stop the dishonest commentary. Admit it - you asked for it and you got it. You got it but good!

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.28  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.27    3 weeks ago
Stop the dishonest commentary.

Stop trying to pretend that my comment is dishonest Vic. 

Admit it - you asked for it and you got it. You got it but good!

I asked for you to prove that there was 'consequence free looting'. 

Admit it, YOU failed miserably.

Or you can just keep devolving into making more personal comments. 

Carry on. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.29  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @2.1.24    2 weeks ago
'It will be a pleasure:"
"Then why didn't you do so Vic. 

Only ONE of your links even mentions looting and that doesn't include anything from the actual person responsible for prosecuting those charges OR any data on how many looters are being arrested and/or prosecuted. 

Utter fail. Try harder Vic."

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Tessylo
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2.1.30  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.25    2 weeks ago
"All my links prove the double standard of justice. The one every moral decent human being acknowledges."

That leaves out the gqp

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.31  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.27    2 weeks ago

Dulay (like yourself) is not the topic of this seed,

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.32  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.28    2 weeks ago
I asked for you to prove that there was 'consequence free looting'.

Oh, I see looting only, not rioting. I think both were covered in my five links.

Admit it, YOU failed miserably.

YOU are the one who has to make the case that we were ONLY talking about looting or THAT any were prosecuted for it. Good luck with that.


Or you can just keep devolving into making more personal comments. 

That seems to be your MO.


Carry on.

Always at your service.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.33  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.32    2 weeks ago
Oh, I see looting only, not rioting.

YOU set the scenario Vic, not I. 

I think both were covered in my five links.

You 'think' WRONG. As I stated, only ONE of your links even mentions looting, the topic of YOUR scenario. THAT link clearly states that the King Co. prosecutor was responsible for felony charges and makes NO mention of the number of 'looters' arrested or prosecuted. 

So AGAIN, your links don't PROVE a fucking thing. 

YOU are the one who has to make the case that we were ONLY talking about looting or THAT any were prosecuted for it. Good luck with that.

It would be a pleasure: 

2.1.15 Vic: Why would consequence free looting ever end? 2.1.16 Dulay: Is it your ridiculous posit that NO ONE has been arrested and/or prosecuted for looting Vic? 

THAT makes the case that we are ONLY talking about looting. 

2.1.18 Vic: Nope, some were arrested and few have been prosecuted.

THAT makes the case that YOU are the one that made the assertion that 'few were prosecuted'. As the one making the assertion, YOU have the burden of proof. 

Trying to shift that burden onto me is juvenile. 

That seems to be your MO.

Stating that you failed miserably isn't a personal comment Vic, it's a statement of fact. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.34  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.33    2 weeks ago
You 'think' WRONG.

Actually, I think even your comrades know I'm right. Very few people were ever punished for the riots/looting of the past year. I'd venture to say that a lot of our lefty friends are very happy about that.

You, on the other hand try and deny the undeniable.

Nothing you say, nothing on God's earth can change that fact.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.35  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.34    2 weeks ago
Actually, I think even your comrades know I'm right.

I would hope that my 'comrades' would review your links and recognize just how wrong you are Vic. 

Here is a taste of what your NYT link states: 

Why Charges Against Protesters Are Being Dismissed by the Thousands

In the aftermath, prosecutors declined to pursue many of the cases because they concluded that the protesters were exercising their basic civil rights. Cases involving free speech or free assembly rarely succeed in court, according to prosecutors across the country, and the coronavirus pandemic also played a role in the decision. A wave of thousands of minor cases threatened to capsize courts already floundering under hefty lockdown backlogs.

There was also the recognition that law enforcement officers often use mass arrests as a technique to help clear the streets, not to confront illegal behavior.

...

The arrest of Ms. Scott in September has become one of the most contentious cases in Louisville because she and several other protest leaders were initially accused of trying to ignite a library, a felony, and of violating a 9 p.m. curfew.

The Jefferson County attorney, Mike O’Connell, appeared in court himself to ask that the felony charges be dropped after reviewing the evidence, including a live Instagram broadcast by Ms. Scott with a time stamp showing that the arrests came before curfew.

Based on that article, there are still HUNDREDS of pending cases for ACTUAL violations of the law. 

Very few people were ever punished for the riots/looting of the past year.

Very few people were ARRESTED for rioting or looting, mostly because very few of the MILLIONS of protestors rioted or looted. Many jurisdictions are still pursuing the identity of looters to prosecute.  

I'd venture to say that a lot of our lefty friends are very happy about that.

You have 'lefty friends'?

I for one doubt that you have an adequate understanding of 'lefties' to know what they would be happy about.  

You, on the other hand try and deny the undeniable.

I haven't denied a fucking thing Vic. I merely asked you to PROVE your claim and YOU have attempts to do so have been miserable failures. 

Nothing you say, nothing on God's earth can change that fact.

Well since 'that fact' only exists in a fantasy you created, I need not say ANYTHING to change it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.36  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.35    2 weeks ago
Many jurisdictions are still pursuing the identity of looters to prosecute.  

Oh, is that right?   The FBI had no problem using "facial recognition technology" when they wanted to toss people in jail for "trespassing."

Jurisdictions are still pursuing......Ya I'm pursuing replacing steak with spam too/s

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.37  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.36    2 weeks ago
Oh, is that right?   

Yes. 

The FBI had no problem using "facial recognition technology" when they wanted to toss people in jail for "trespassing."

Point? 

Jurisdictions are still pursuing......Ya I'm pursuing replacing steak with spam too/s

Gee Vic, if the information in YOUR link is false, WHY did you post it? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.38  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.37    2 weeks ago

The only thing fake here is YOUR lame denial of the double standard.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.39  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.38    2 weeks ago
The only thing fake here is YOUR lame denial of the double standard.

I didn't say anything was 'fake' NOR have I denied anything. 

What I have done is refute your FALSE claims and highlight the FACT that your attempt to support your FALSE claims failed miserably. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.40  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.39    2 weeks ago
What I have done

What you have done is to take on another impossible argument.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.41  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.40    2 weeks ago
What you have done is to take on another impossible argument.

SO 'impossible' that you failed to refute any of it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.42  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.41    2 weeks ago

Oh but I did, five times over. Anyone with half a brain knows that BLM & antifa rioters went largely unpunished.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.43  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.42    2 weeks ago
Anyone with half a brain knows that BLM & antifa rioters went largely unpunished.

Yes, sadly many conservatives with half a brain think nonsensical things. Those with more than half a brain know that the facts show BLM protests were largely peaceful, 93% of them to be exact. There were hundreds of rioters and instigators who were arrested at the few protests that did turn violent, but since the vast majority of BLM protests were peaceful I fail to see why any of them should be saddled with the criminal actions of a few. Those who resorted to violence and vandalism or looting should be brought to justice just like those piece of shit conservative insurrectionists who attacked our capital and vandalized the building.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.44  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.42    2 weeks ago

You started all this off with claiming that there was 'consequence free looting' Vic. You were asked to prove it and have yet to do so.

Sure, you TRIED to deflect to riots yet you just admitted in your most recent post that even the rioting wasn't 'consequence free'. 

YOUR claims are FALSE Vic and your own links PROVE that fact. 

But hey, carry on with your pretense all you want. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.45  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.43    2 weeks ago
Yes, sadly many conservatives with half a brain think nonsensical things.

Oh ya, you wanted to step on that line. The truth is that some progressives don't even have a modicum of intelligence - only hate!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.46  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.44    2 weeks ago

Looting is part of rioting. There is no deflection. You asked for a link and I gave you 5. Five links to something that I'm sure even YOU know.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.47  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.43    2 weeks ago
the few protests that did turn violent

over 2,000  police officers were injured in left wing riots last summer and they think that's okay because 5 high school girls protested in a suburban McDonald's parking lot without hurting anyone. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.48  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.47    2 weeks ago

Portland has certainly been a bastion of peacefulness since 2018!

The infamous "right wing agitators" are surely to blame for inciting those peaceful folks to riot!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.49  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.48    2 weeks ago

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Dulay
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2.1.50  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.46    2 weeks ago
Looting is part of rioting.

That is FALSE too Vic. Looting and rioting are two completely different charges. READ your own links Vic. Or better yet, ask your friends the insurrectionists. 

There is no deflection.

All of your comments since the one I initially replied to have been. 

You asked for a link and I gave you 5. Five links to something that I'm sure even YOU know.

Yes I do know Vic and as I have already stated NONE of your links PROVE a fucking thing about 'consequence free' looting. 

It's been a real laugh reading your claims about 'consequence free' looting and then reading your desperate attempts to support your claim with links that undermine it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.51  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.50    2 weeks ago
That is FALSE too Vic.

No it's not Dulay. 


All of your comments since the one I initially replied to have been. 

The comments you can't deal with?


Yes I do know Vic and as I have already stated NONE of your links PROVE a fucking thing about 'consequence free' looting. 

Oh, but they do. 


It's been a real laugh 

That avatar of yours says it all.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.52  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.51    2 weeks ago
No it's not Dulay. 

Then you should be able to explain why looting and rioting are two different charges Vic. I'll wait.

The comments you can't deal with?

I've dealt with all of your comments Vic. 

Oh, but they do. 

Prove it Vic. QUOTE the portion of you links that prove your claim that there has been 'consequence free looting'. 

It's been a real laugh 

It's good to see that you can laugh at yourself Vic.

That avatar of yours says it all.

It illustrates a goal set and achieved, which is more than can be said of yours. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.53  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.52    2 weeks ago
Then you should be able to explain why looting and rioting are two different charges Vic. I'll wait.

I'm afraid you protest too much on the distinction. The result is the same for BLM & antifa - very few prosecutions.


I've dealt with all of your comments Vic. 

Nope, you just keep trying to have the last word - as meaningless as it can be.


QUOTE the portion of you links that prove your claim that there has been 'consequence free looting'. 

You can read.


It's good to see that you can laugh at yourself Vic.

I'm not a feminist


It illustrates a goal set and achieved

by China.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.54  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.53    2 weeks ago
I'm afraid you protest too much on the distinction.

YOU are the one trying to pretend that there ISN'T a distinction Vic. 

The result is the same for BLM & antifa - very few prosecutions.

Gee Vic, since the Federal charging documents for over 300 cases don't even mention BLM or Antifa, your comment is moot. 

You can read.

Translation: There is NONE. 

I'm not a feminist

Hardly revelatory Vic. 

by China.

Nope, by 81,268,924 AMERICANS. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.55  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @2.1.54    2 weeks ago

I called you and you folded.

I expected more than denials.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.56  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.55    2 weeks ago
I called you and you folded.

That's some self delusional shit right there. 

I expected more than denials.

You receive no denials Vic.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

The system works.

Shame it wasn't give time to work without killing people, rioting, destroying business etc...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    3 weeks ago
Shame it wasn't give time to work without killing people, rioting, destroying business etc...

You're right, the riots were a shame and a sad testament to the lack of any justice or accountability many black Americans have felt for so long. That obvious lack of justice for so long doesn't excuse those who took advantage of the protests to lash out with violence, vandalism and looting, anyone who did so should be held accountable themselves. But I believe this verdict is a loud and clear statement affirming the vast majority of protests last year that were peaceful calls for justice and accountability and exemplifies exactly what the "Black Lives Matter" movement truly embodied, not the warped and twisted narrative many bigots, instigators and anarchist opportunists tried to turn it into.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1    3 weeks ago
"But I believe this verdict is a loud and clear statement affirming the vast majority of protests last year that were peaceful calls for justice and accountability and exemplifies exactly what the "Black Lives Matter" movement truly embodied, not the warped and twisted narrative many bigots, instigators and anarchist opportunists tried to turn it into."

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JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Vic, it is interesting , and telling, that you are MUCH more interested in the peripheral aspects of this matter than you are in justice being served. 

But then again what else is new. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 weeks ago
it is interesting , and telling, that you are MUCH more interested in the peripheral aspects of this matter than you are in justice being served. 

Justice being served was NEVER in doubt. The only people who doubted it, think the Justice system is racist.


But then again what else is new. 

Yup, the truth is still the truth.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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4.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    3 weeks ago
The only people who doubted it, think the Justice system is racist.

yea, NEVER any sign of that, huh Vic.....?

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    3 weeks ago
The only people who doubted it, think the Justice system is racist.

Nope. It's the people who have seen 'hung juries' and out and out exonerations of officer who have killed unarmed black people ad nauseam that doubted it Vic. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @4.1.2    3 weeks ago
It's the people who have seen 'hung juries' and out and out exonerations of officer who have killed unarmed black people ad nauseam that doubted it Vic. 

No Dulay, it is the radical left, who are convinced that the judicial system is racist. Today proved that they are 100% wrong.


Did you hear Nancy Pelosi?

"Earlier Tuesday, Pelosi had spoken at an event with the Congressional Black Caucus on Capitol Hill, where she made her first comments following the verdict.

"Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice," she said. "For being there to call out to your mom, how heartbreaking was that," Pelosi said during the news conference. "And because of you ... your name will always be synonymous with justice."



Thus George Floyd was a sacrificial lamb used to further a cause. It's really interesting to see these radical progressives use everything for political advantage.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  igknorantzrulz @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

Nope. Just look at all the rioting the American people have tolerated for almost a year now. You can't get much more magnanimous than that!

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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4.1.5  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    3 weeks ago

So many of us have been wondering how WASPs felt about systemic racism in America today.  Thanks for sharing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @4.1.5    3 weeks ago
So many of us have been wondering how WASPs felt about systemic racism in America today.

Now there's an expression I haven't heard in a long time. What the rest of us are wondering about is the independence of juries. Juries must remain insulated from outside pressure. The verdict itself is ok as long as the jury didn't arrive at it through fear.

But you are worried about people who look like Richard Widmark. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.7  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.3    3 weeks ago
No Dulay, it is the radical left, who are convinced that the judicial system is racist.

Again, your incessant use of the term 'radical left' renders it moot.

Secondly, the judicial system is rife with racial bias. 

Today proved that they are 100% wrong.

ONE conviction of ONE officer only 'proves' that justice CAN be rendered. That ONE conviction doesn't 'prove' that the seed change needed in our judicial system will occur. 

Thus George Floyd was a sacrificial lamb used to further a cause.

That is a lie Vic. NO ONE 'deliberately sacrificed' George Floyd. 

It's really interesting to see these radical progressives use everything for political advantage.

Well gee Vic, since you quoted Pelosi one would think that you'd recognize that the ONLY 'advantage' that she cited was JUSTICE. 

It's really interesting that YOU label JUSTICE as 'radically progressive'. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @4.1.7    2 weeks ago
gain, your incessant use of the term 'radical left' renders it moot.

It does not exist? Those policies that Biden the puppet has put forward: open borders, relief specifically for non-white farmers, killing the Keystone Pipeline, etc aren't radical?  Radical by any standard - except of course by many of our lefty contributors.

Secondly, the judicial system is rife with racial bias. 

PROVE IT!


ONE conviction of ONE officer only 'proves' that justice CAN be rendered. 

That sounds fairly radical.


That is a lie Vic. NO ONE 'deliberately sacrificed' George Floyd. 

Take it up with Nancy Pelosi. She is the one who thanked him for sacrificing his life.


It's really interesting that YOU label JUSTICE as 'radically progressive'.

When progressives cite justice, they mean symbolic retribution.  It is interesting that YOU can't understand it.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.9  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.8    2 weeks ago
It does not exist?

Whoosh, right over your head. 

PROVE IT!

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That sounds fairly radical.

Sadly, in America, conviction of a LEO for murder IS radical. 

Take it up with Nancy Pelosi. She is the one who thanked him for sacrificing his life.

I took it up with YOU because YOU are the one who claimed: Thus George Floyd was a sacrificial lamb used to further a cause.

When progressives cite justice, they mean symbolic retribution. 

Based on your replies to the progressives on this site, you haven't a clue what progressive 'mean'. 

It is interesting that YOU can't understand it.

I'll leave it to 'our readers' to decide who has a better understanding of the issues Vic. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @4.1.9    2 weeks ago

So, as usual you can't prove what you claim.

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Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.11  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.10    2 weeks ago
So, as usual you can't prove what you claim.

Buy a mirror Vic. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @4.1.11    one week ago

Buy yourself a garden weasel.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.12    one week ago

I prefer a stirrup hoe. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @4.1.13    one week ago

We know about that.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.15  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.14    one week ago

Please list those that you include in the 'we' you pretend to speak for Vic. 

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Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.16  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.14    one week ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but I presume that you include yourself as part of the 'we' you pretend to speak for Vic. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5  Kavika     3 weeks ago

I said months ago that I hope that Chauvin receives the same treatment/verdict that the Minneapolis PD has handed to people of color for decades. Today was a start. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @5    3 weeks ago

That's the spirit! Punishment should be wide-reaching and never ending. We'll call it the battle cry of the left!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    3 weeks ago
That's the spirit! Punishment should be wide-reaching and never ending. We'll call it the battle cry of the left!

Nope, just said that I hope that Chauvin receives the same treatment/verdict that the Minneapolis PD has handed to people of color for generations. Never said anything about wide-reaching and never-ending, but you keep imagining whatever you chose. 

He was found guilty of a crime that he committed. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
just said that I hope that Chauvin receives the same treatment/verdict that the Minneapolis PD has handed to people of color for generations.

We know what you mean.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    3 weeks ago
That's the spirit! Punishment should be wide-reaching and never ending. 

Perhaps you can explain HOW treating him THE SAME is 'punishment' Vic? 

We'll call it the battle cry of the left!

"How dare you treat Chauvin the same way POC have been treated thru history."

The battle cry of the right!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    3 weeks ago
"We know what you mean."

Who is 'we'?

All of your 'readers'!

All of them?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
"That's the spirit! Punishment should be wide-reaching and never ending. We'll call it the battle cry of the left!"

"Nope, just said that I hope that Chauvin receives the same treatment/verdict that the Minneapolis PD has handed to people of color for generations. Never said anything about wide-reaching and never-ending, but you keep imagining whatever you chose. 

He was found guilty of a crime that he committed."

People shouldn't put words in your mouth Kavika.  I've noted some posters do that all the time!

We understood exactly what you meant!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.6  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.2    3 weeks ago
We know what you mean.

It's obvious you don't know what I mean but keep trying you may knock over a bag of self-awareness that you misplaced. 

 
 
 
bugsy
PhD Guide
5.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
Minneapolis PD has handed to people of color for generations.

Thanks to Joe Biden and his 1994 "predator" crime bill.

Bang up job, Joe...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.8  Kavika   replied to  bugsy @5.1.7    3 weeks ago

Another swing and miss, bugsy. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @5.1.8    3 weeks ago

He's doing fine. Worry about your own batting average.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.10  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.9    2 weeks ago

I never worry about nonsense from those that have no clue, Vic.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.20  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @5.1.10    2 weeks ago

The rest of this thread was removed for off topic and bickering. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5    3 weeks ago

seems weird to me to punish one person for the sins of others, but that is just my opinion.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2    3 weeks ago

It's called social justice. For the left wing media Chauvin represented all whites and Floyd represented all blacks. That's the slant they were determined to place on the story.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.2  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @5.2    3 weeks ago
seems weird to me to punish one person for the sins of others, but that is just my opinion.

He was found guilty of a crime that he committed not for the sins of others and that isn't an opinion it's a fact. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.2.2    3 weeks ago

I know exactly what the verdict was. I was replying to your hopes he is treated differently because of who he worked for and for what you perceive to be injustices to black people.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
5.2.4  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.3    3 weeks ago

he already is going to be treated differently , likely more harshly .

 based on his race , beliefs , former profession , add anything you think i missed , fact is ex cops are not exactly treated with any sort of prison cred because of their crime , oh and he will be treated differently because of his crime as well.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.5  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.3    3 weeks ago

Seems my perception is very good, he was found guilty on all three counts, killing a person is one hell of an injustice. My perception is not only for injustices to black people but also Native American people, there is a long history of such injustices in Minneapolis.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.2.5    3 weeks ago

I only take issue with your comment in post 5.

Sounds more like you are hoping to extract revenge for past deeds and don't really care who pays as long as someone does.

He was found guilty and will be sentenced accordingly---for the crimes he was charged with--as it should be.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.2.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.1    3 weeks ago

Vic I couldn't disagree more. Chauvin's race had nothing to do with this. Chauvin represents a bad cop... the archetype bad cop. He had a long history behind him. It finally caught up with him. He just made it worse for the good cops out there, too.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.8  Kavika   replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.6    3 weeks ago
Sounds more like you are hoping to extract revenge for past deeds and don't really care who pays as long as someone does.

An assumption on your part and a very poor assumption at that since I specially named Chauvin in that comment.

 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.2.8    3 weeks ago

Not a poor assumption based on the following:

I said months ago that I hope that Chauvin receives the same treatment/verdict that the Minneapolis PD has handed to people of color for decades. Today was a start. 
 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
5.2.10  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.9    3 weeks ago
Not a poor assumption based on the following

 Really wish to go that route Tex ? FOR ONE, what would be WRONG with Chauvin and company being treated with "the same treatment/verdict that the Minneapolis PD has handed to people of color for decades." ? Cause you seem to think we're treated pretty equal, or did i misinterpret you ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2.7    3 weeks ago
Vic I couldn't disagree more. Chauvin's race had nothing to do with this. Chauvin represents a bad cop... the archetype bad cop.

On that we can agree. I was referring to the way the media sold the story and for them it was a big one.


He just made it worse for the good cops out there, too.

And worse than that he gave an odd sort of credibility to a lie about the police.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.12  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.3    3 weeks ago
I was replying to your hopes he is treated differently because of who he worked for and for what you perceive to be injustices to black people.

So you are intentionally misrepresenting what Kavika said. Got ya. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.13  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2.11    3 weeks ago
On that we can agree. I was referring to the way the media sold the story and for them it was a big one.

Well I felt that way about Chauvin's defense insisting that the the 'crowd' was 'threatening' Chauvin.

Ya, a small group of mostly AA minors and/or seniors who begged for Floyd's life 'threatened' Chauvin.../s

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @5.2.4    3 weeks ago

I imagine he'll get exactly what he deserves!  Karma!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2.10    3 weeks ago

he went that route, Take it up with him.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.2.12    3 weeks ago

Just because you have failed to comprehend either post doesn't limit other's abilities to understand.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.17  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.16    3 weeks ago
Just because you have failed to comprehend either post doesn't limit other's abilities to understand.

What I understand is that you are desperate to try and pretend that 'the same treatment' ACTUALLY means 'treated differently'. It's a disgusting attempt at gaslighting. STOP. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @5.2.8    3 weeks ago
I hope that Chauvin receives the same treatment/verdict that the Minneapolis PD has handed to people of color for decades.

So what you would like to see if I'm reading this correctly is that he is treated just as harshly as POC and Native Americans have been treated in Minnesota not differently

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.19  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.2.17    3 weeks ago

Stop yourself.

What you claim to understand doesn't jibe with your posts.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.20  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @5.2.17    3 weeks ago

Some folks will just never ever Let.It.Go. never ever

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.2.21  Ozzwald  replied to  Dulay @5.2.13    3 weeks ago

Ya, a small group of mostly AA minors and/or seniors who begged for Floyd's life 'threatened' Chauvin.../s

Don't forget that 10 year old girl.  She probably had him shaking in his boots.

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Kavika
Professor Principal
5.2.22  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.18    3 weeks ago

That Chauvin is treated the same as both blacks and NA's have been treated by the Minneapolis PD for decades. Not differently but exactly the same. 

I've said it now four times, most everyone understands the comment except those that chose not to for their own reason. If they chose to not understand it I could not care one way or the other. 

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
5.2.23  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.18    3 weeks ago

It was very easy to understand. Some people only want to muddy the waters.

And not with mud...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5.2.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @5.2.22    3 weeks ago
That Chauvin is treated the same as both blacks and NA's have been treated by the Minneapolis PD for decades. Not differently but exactly the same. 

That's what I thought you meant. If I can understand what you mean, surely smart people can understand what you mean

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
5.2.25  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Tessylo @5.2.14    3 weeks ago

Oh i agree with that , he will get what he deserves , you call it karma , i usually say to people may life give you exactly what life thinks you deserve , same difference really. it is funny how that always seems to work though more so than mentioning karma.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.26  Texan1211  replied to  Kavika @5.2.22    3 weeks ago
That Chauvin is treated the same as both blacks and NA's have been treated by the Minneapolis PD for decades.

So you want the court to extract revenge for deeds committed by the Minneapolis PD for decades, instead of merely being satisfied that he was convicted on all counts and will be sentenced accordingly.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.27  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.19    3 weeks ago
Stop yourself. What you claim to understand doesn't jibe with your posts.

Though it sure as fuck jibes perfectly with yours. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.28  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.2.27    3 weeks ago

Not to one who actually understood the posts.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.29  Dulay  replied to  Ozzwald @5.2.21    3 weeks ago

She WAS wearing a terrifying LOVE t-shirt...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.30  Tessylo  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @5.2.25    3 weeks ago

Whatever?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.31  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.28    3 weeks ago
Not to one who actually understood the posts.

Based on the comments in this thread, YOU are the only one that has chosen to misinterpret Kavika's comment. I posit that you chose to do so in a failed attempt to bolster your agenda. 

 
 
 
Ender
PhD Principal
5.2.32  Ender  replied to  Dulay @5.2.31    3 weeks ago

That is what he does. Twist and spin something and try to assign words not said.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
5.2.33  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Ender @5.2.32    3 weeks ago

WELL Tex, if u wish to assign words and meanings, perhaps ya should start with me and mine, you know, the ones you rarely are able to define, and we will see how word play truly does mean just that, to me, and the labor you will have now assigned yourself, and for all, all to see, should be entertaining, well, well at least for me.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.34  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.2.31    3 weeks ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.35  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2.33    3 weeks ago

when you decide to converse somewhat normally to me, perhaps we can talk

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
5.2.36  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.35    3 weeks ago

let me show ya how this works Tex, U want me to dumb it down for you, sorry, takes too much time for me. I don't do simple, it's too complex. I've always gravitated to the path of most resistance, and that is not an exaggeration. Yet, since most i converse with don't think they're sneakin up on me, why do you suppose, since you're constantly deciding what people say , irregardless of Their actual say, do you think you know better than say, THEY, when it comes to what other people say....?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.37  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2.36    3 weeks ago

the only thing I would like from you is silence.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
Senior Participates
5.2.38  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.37    3 weeks ago

so you're just in it for the Gold....or the pyrite...?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.39  Texan1211  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2.38    3 weeks ago

sorry, I don't have the patience to deal with such inanity today. 

come back tomorrow!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.2.40  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.39    3 weeks ago
sorry, I don't have the patience to deal with such inanity today.

Yet you keep replying to him.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.41  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @5.2.40    3 weeks ago

yeah. it's like a train wreck, you just can't stop looking!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.42  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.34    3 weeks ago

As you are well aware, I could not care less. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.43  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.2.42    3 weeks ago

not even if you try really, really hard?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.44  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.43    3 weeks ago
not even if you try really, really hard?

Why would I try at all Tex?

Now, have your desperately needed last inane word. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.45  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @5.2.44    3 weeks ago

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Dulay
Professor Principal
5.2.46  Dulay  replied to  Ozzwald @5.2.40    3 weeks ago

It's compulsive. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
5.2.47  Ozzwald  replied to  Dulay @5.2.46    2 weeks ago
It's compulsive. 

And obsessive.

 
 
 
MrFrost
PhD Principal
6  MrFrost    3 weeks ago

Chauvin will do great in prison.. /s

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
7  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

There was always going to be appeals, but I highly doubt the convictions are overturned, and certainly not any time remotely soon. Motherfucker better get comfy in prison. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
7.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Thrawn 31 @7    3 weeks ago
I highly doubt the convictions are overturned, and certainly not any time remotely soon. Motherfucker better get comfy in prison. 

The only way i really see them being overturned , is if any of the jurors say they felt intimidated into making the verdict they did . simply to not have any rioting go on , 3 guilty verdicts instead of one narrow one though makes me think this is a punt to the appeals courts . they can at least say they did as asked , make a judgement .

absent that i doubt it will happen myself .

 now to see what unintended consequenses arise , i can think of a few .

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago



AOC claims "No Justice."  Doesn't like the fact that the system worked. 

Translation: Little Miss Spaceshot wants her "revolution."

 
 
 
Sunshine
Masters Guide
9.1  Sunshine  replied to  Vic Eldred @9    3 weeks ago

Her followers eat that shit up.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sunshine @9.1    3 weeks ago

With both hands and they savor every bit!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    2 weeks ago

One of the worst ideas we ever had was giving BA degrees to morons!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago



Two liars tell the big one - "systemic racism."

A national disgrace.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    3 weeks ago

No, the National Disgrace waddled out on 1/20/21

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
PhD Guide
10.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @10    2 weeks ago

You will find the national disgrace cheating at golf as usual.

 
 
 
Kathleen
PhD Principal
11  Kathleen    2 weeks ago

My feelings are that he does deserve a lot of jail time. He was a arrogant prick. 

I do feel that we should not paint the police department with a broad brush. These men and women go out everyday and risk their lives for us all.  I do appreciate their service and will continue to. 

 
 
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