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Biden denies permit for 'Rolling Thunder' motorcycle rally to honor vets on Memorial Day

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  texan1211  •  3 years ago  •  155 comments

By:   Terresa Monroe-Hamilton (BizPac Review)

Biden denies permit for 'Rolling Thunder' motorcycle rally to honor vets on Memorial Day
The Biden administration and the Pentagon have rescinded a parking permit for a Rolling to Remember rally over Memorial Day to honor veterans.

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May 5, 2021|Terresa Monroe-Hamilton|Print Article

Congressional lawmakers are outraged after the Biden administration denied an event permit in Washington, D.C. for the "Rolling to Remember" motorcycle rally on Memorial Day which has been held for the last 32 years.

Better known as "Rolling Thunder," the charity event is intended to honor America's fallen heroes. The rally is a tradition in D.C. that brings together thousands of veterans and other patriots from all over the country to commemorate war veterans, including those missing in action and prisoners of war. The action comes as D.C. is beginning to open up after the coronavirus lockdown.

Organizers have waited almost a year for the Defense Department to issue the parking permit needed for the event. The Pentagon cited the pandemic for not issuing a permit to the group so they could gather in its parking lot. The Biden administration "refused to talk with event organizers" and "refused to respond to Congress about this topic," Rep. Darrel Issa (R-CA) said in a statement this week.

A number of congressional members petitioned the Pentagon in April to approve the rally. The permit was originally given the green light in March but was rescinded this week with no explanation.

American Veterans which hosts the annual event reportedly obtained the necessary permits from the Department of Transportation, the Department of the Interior, and a number of other agencies. Issa noted that the Pentagon's ruling "leaves patriotic veterans without a safe alternative" to gather.

AMVETS is a congressionally-chartered veterans service that represents more than 20 million veterans and their families in the United States.

Issa charged the Biden administration with playing politics, given that Biden just hosted a rally in Georgia: "The Rolling to Remember event is no less safe," Issa declared. "The only difference is the politics that are denying veterans the opportunity to honor their fallen comrades. If patriotic veterans are not welcome at the Pentagon, are they truly welcome anywhere in the Biden Administration?"


The Biden Administration is making a terrible mistake by blocking a veterans charity from the use of Pentagon parking for the Rolling to Remember POW/MIA remembrance motorcycle ride. Sadly, the decision seems to be more about politics than safety.https://t.co/rENBxexDRI
— Rep. Darrell Issa (@repdarrellissa) May 3, 2021

The Pentagon released a statement last week attempting to explain their actions:


"Unfortunately, the department has disapproved AMVETS permit request. The department took into careful consideration all aspects of AMVETS request, to include the current Health Protection Condition status on the Pentagon Reservation; substantial community transmission of COVID-19 in Arlington County, Virginia; number of Americans fully vaccinated across the nation; nature of this event with its decreased ability to maintain physical distance; and large crowds in one location for an extended period of time. This event draws national attention and participation; therefore the risk of exposure from participants from other communities extends well beyond the National Capital Region."

"If COVID-19 conditions permit, the department would gladly consider supporting a future event request from AMVETS, potentially as soon as this Labor Day weekend," the statement continued.

"The department looks forward to supporting future events with AMVETS, and as always, we appreciate AMVETS' support of our veterans, their families, and their communities, including promoting better awareness of veterans' issues, as well as AMVETS continued support for our missing-in-action service members," the statement weakly concluded.


Biden's Pentagon cites pandemic to deny AmVets' 'Rolling to Remember' bike rally, despite 32 yr. tradition https://t.co/o7SBZIVHoWpic.twitter.com/3alyj0FhR9
— Conservative News (@BIZPACReview) May 2, 2021

Rep. Brian Mast (R-FL) slammed the Biden administration for rescinding the Memorial Day permit: "Memorial Day traditions like Rolling to Remember have been granted permits by every administration, Democrat and Republican, for the past 30 years. The Biden Administration's decision to end this Memorial Day tradition flies in the face of the freedoms that so many have died to protect," he told Fox News.

"We are blessed beyond words to be citizens of the greatest country on Earth and only live free thanks to the men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice. But sadly right now, in Joe Biden's America, it is easier to cross the border illegally than it is to get a permit to pay our respects to our nation's fallen heroes," Mast noted.

The rally always takes place over the Memorial Day holiday weekend. It usually starts on Friday evening with the Blessing of the Bikes ceremony at the National Cathedral. Then a candlelight vigil at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial takes place to kick off the event to remember our fallen heroes.

The Biden administration has also canceled the 4th of July fireworks at Mt. Rushmore and is being sued by South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem.

There was widespread anger on social media concerning Biden's Pentagon blocking the rally:


With the cancelling of the AMVETS Rolling to Remember Bike Parade permits, this "President" shows once again that he hates America and the VETERANS who fought for it.#BidenMustGo
— Jarome Bell (@JaromeBellVA) May 4, 2021


Onward. #RollingToRemember@jchenelly | @ScottTaylorTVpic.twitter.com/7vF0PwvUM8
— AMVETS (@AMVETSHQ) May 1, 2021


Even though Biden/Pentagon, for the first time in over 30 years, has denied a permit for Rolling to Remember motorcycle rally held on Memorial Day in Washington, DC. It sounds like they are going ahead as planned!#SemperFi
— Joshua T. Hosler for American Veterans (@JoshuaHosler) May 4, 2021


"At a time when President Biden can find a way to hold outdoor political events, it's shocking his administration can't find a way to help our veterans do the same," said Rep. @KenCalvert (R-CA) regarding the matter.
— Kyle Morris (@RealKyleMorris) May 3, 2021


Let's roll anyway!!! I am sure there are other staging areas outside of Dc. Us the Reagan or Dulles airport parking lot. Pay to park the rollout!! GOD BLESS THEM ALL!!!
— Karl Pearl (@kspkspearl) May 4, 2021


The Biden administration sees veterans as white supremacists and anarchists. His handlers are going to do everything to stop any pro American activities. They stopped the 4th of July celebration at Mount Rushmore. What's next?
— CSB (@CSB86191359) May 3, 2021


Biden suffocates Patriotism
— ThroughMyEyes (@Richard36837296) May 4, 2021

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Texan1211    3 years ago

Washington baseball fans are allowed to attend games.

Hmmm....................................

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2  Tessylo    3 years ago

Sue him!

Dumb ass Noem is suing President Biden for banning her superspreader event on July 4th.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @2    3 years ago

Because outdoor events are such super spreaders.  The bikers will find an alternative way to meet in DC and the governor will win her lawsuit.  

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
2.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    3 years ago

Just call it a protest.  Biden and his vet haters will giggle with delight.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  Vic Eldred    3 years ago

Men on motorcycles is what frightens Joe Biden. He really needs to get out more. I'd like to drop him off in Roxbury. He can wash his undies when he gets home.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 years ago

Why would President Biden be frightened of men on motorcycles?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 years ago
I'd like to drop him off in Roxbury.

why would joe want to hang out with a bunch of old 4-F sissies and draft dodgers that have low self esteem and a leather fetish?

He can wash his undies when he gets home.

joe only wears them once, then he donates them to the home for brain dead trumpsters to filter the water they soak their dentures in.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @3.2    3 years ago

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President Joe would kick their asses with no trouble!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.1    3 years ago
President Joe would kick their asses with no trouble!

Joe hasn't kicked anyone's ass since his CornPop days--and THAT is certainly debateable!

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
3.2.3  Sunshine  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.2    3 years ago
Joe hasn't kicked anyone's ass

He can't find his own ass much less someone elses...

384

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Sunshine @3.2.3    3 years ago

We're not talking about trumpturd here.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
3.2.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.2    3 years ago

He sure kicked Trump's ass not too long ago.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.2.5    3 years ago

he won an election, learn the difference

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
3.2.7  Sunshine  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.2.5    3 years ago
He sure kicked Trump's ass not too long ago.

Really, seems Biden and his admin are scared to death of the orange man bad.  So scared they have to have their cronies censure him and deny our soldiers be honored for their service.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Sunshine @3.2.7    3 years ago

Who is doing that?  Certainly not President Biden.  

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
3.2.9  arkpdx  replied to  devangelical @3.2    3 years ago
a bunch of old 4-F sissies and draft dodgers that have low self esteem and a leather fetish?

I want to be there when you call all them bikers that. I would even pay for the privilege. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
3.2.10  arkpdx  replied to  devangelical @3.2    3 years ago
joe only wears them once,

Depends are only ment to be worn once. How many times do you wear them. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.11  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  arkpdx @3.2.9    3 years ago

you know internet tough guys would tuck tail and run.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2.12  pat wilson  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.2    3 years ago
THAT is certainly debateable!

So are your spelling skills.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
3.3  SteevieGee  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    3 years ago

I'm pretty sure the President isn't who you go to for parking permits.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
4  Sunshine    3 years ago

Of course he did...Biden is a POS.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sunshine @4    3 years ago

Of course he did - what?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5  devangelical    3 years ago
and other patriots

... yeah, like those other patriots on 01/01/21. veterans only, no problem. but nobody wants to see a bunch of wannabe's flying gadsden flags, confederate flags, nazi flags, and trump flags off the sissy bars of their motorcycles. especially when this holiday represents the heroes that gave their lives protecting america from the same scum that is exemplified by the last administration and it's unamerican sycophants.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1  JohnRussell  replied to  devangelical @5    3 years ago

I was thinking something similar. Why would Biden want DC invaded by a horde of Trump flag waving idiots? 

Let them take a year off and see if they can come back next year with a more reasonable and actually patriotic outlook. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    3 years ago
see if they can come back next year with a more reasonable and actually patriotic outlook

anybody that believes trump won the last election and aligns themselves with that POS now, threw their patriotism away on 01/06/21. let the vet wannabe's ride down that street at 100mph without helmets at midnight. I'll order a hundred pounds of carpet tacks for the occasion.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    3 years ago

 Please present whatever evidence you have that this particular group of vets did anything that ya'll are claiming.

Oh, btw, they took last year off and didn't have it.

Seems weird people can go to stadiums to watch baseball, but vets aren't allowed to honor their own who sacrificed all for their country.

Seems like just the thing the Biden-loving left would cheer about.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.2    3 years ago
veterans only, no problem.

oh, did you miss this part?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  devangelical @5.1.1    3 years ago

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They would not come in 2021 and just promote generic patriotism, they would come and promote Trumpism.  Fuck em. Stay home and cry in your beer. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.1.3    3 years ago

Uh, did you mistakenly think that they were getting permits for other groups??????!!!!!!???!?!?!??!?

DUH!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    3 years ago

let those wannabe-vet bikers ride around mar-a-lago, then they can all go gangbang melania and ivanka for all I care...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.1.6    3 years ago

Yeah, I get you have no respect for veterans.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.8  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.7    3 years ago

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Texan1211
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5.1.9  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.1.8    3 years ago

Just an American who respects vets.

I damn sure wish you could say the same.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @5.1.6    3 years ago
"let those wannabe-vet bikers ride around mar-a-lago, then they can all go gangbang melania and ivanka for all I care..."

trumpturd will watch!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.11  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.1.3    3 years ago
oh, did you miss this part?

Not at all. Did you miss the part where I was replying to someone ELSE?

Now, if you can find THAT part in the fucking post I responded to, go for it, otherwise, pay attention to what YOU are responding to.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.12  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.11    3 years ago

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Texan1211
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5.1.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.1.12    3 years ago

yeah, and people who can't figure out when a post is responding to someone else isn't my concern.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
5.1.14  zuksam  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    3 years ago
Let them take a year off and see if they can come back next year with a more reasonable and actually patriotic outlook. 

They're going to come anyway. This just shows Biden's true character refusing to allow certain groups the same access as others get. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.15  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  zuksam @5.1.14    3 years ago

isn't it odd how many unpatriotic people are cheering that the permits won't be issued. after prior approval, of course!

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
5.1.16  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.15    3 years ago

Speaking of unpatriotic people, how is that Michael Wood only got 3% of the vote? Doesn't Texas like Jesus loving family centric war heroes?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.17  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @5.1.16    3 years ago

I believe the candidates who qualified in the top two spots were also Christians.

if you have a point to make. please do so.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
5.1.18  Hallux  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.17    3 years ago

I did, hardly my problem if you can't see it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.19  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @5.1.18    3 years ago

okie-dokie then!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.20  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    3 years ago
Why would Biden want DC invaded by a horde of Trump flag waving idiots? Let them take a year off and see if they can come back next year with a more reasonable and actually patriotic outlook. 

What, so all bikers are Trump supporters and every event they do is a Trump rally? Did you miss the part where it's supposed to honor veterans? Is that a partisan issue?

The event is sponsored by AMVETS. They're a non-partisan veterans organization. Members donate money to both Republicans and Democrats.

Did you miss the part where they have been doing this for 32 years?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.21  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.20    3 years ago

Rolling Thunder Tribute to US Military Turns into a Trump Rally

By   VOA News ,   Ken Bredemeier
May 29, 2016 01:33 AM

The  Rolling Thunder  caravan of motorcycles rolled into Washington Sunday, to support the U.S. military on the country's Memorial Day weekend, but it turned into a political rally for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, real estate titan Donald Trump.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.22  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.20    3 years ago

they don't care about traditions, heck. they don't even care about the vets or honoring the fallen.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Participates
5.1.25  Thrawn 31  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.24    3 years ago

Spoken like someone who is trying way too hard.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.1.26  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.21    3 years ago

If support for Trump is the reason for the denial of a permit, then such denial violates the First Amendment.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5    3 years ago

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devangelical
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5.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2    3 years ago

read it [again]  [removed]

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
5.2.2  Sunshine  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2    3 years ago

It is sad that Trump holds such powers over these people that they can't even let people honor our vets.

I thought Trump lost but it seems he still has control over them.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.2.1    3 years ago

Read the exact same.

Maybe you should just admit you don't like vets.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Sunshine @5.2.2    3 years ago

You dont have to be Einstein or a psychic to know that this event would become a pro Trump rally.  This country needs to try and heal from the past five years, not continue to try and perpetuate them. 

There is no shortage of ways and events to honor veterans in this country. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Sunshine @5.2.2    3 years ago
I thought Trump lost but it seems he still has control over them.

the republican civil war is on a different seed...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.6  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.3    3 years ago
Maybe you should just admit you don't like vets.

maybe you should just admit you don't know the difference between memorial day and veteran's day.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.2.6    3 years ago

Memorial Day is to honor the fallen veterans who served this country and died for it. 

Veteran's Day is to honor all who served.

THESE vets simply wanted to honor their fallen brethren--why is that so threatening to left-wingers?

Why does it trigger such hate for vets from the lunatic fringe left?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
5.2.8  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.4    3 years ago
There is no shortage of ways and events to honor veterans in this country. 

And Biden is making it political by this dumb ass move

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.9  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.7    3 years ago
THESE vets simply wanted to honor their fallen brethren

I have no problem with any actual vets that want to honor the fallen on memorial day. I do have a problem with a leather clad pep club on motorcycles that would politicize that day at the expense of the fallen. to be clear, any vet that was inside the capitol building on 01/06/21 violated their oath to defend the constitution and needs to be punished to the full extent of the law. they should also have their loyalty, service records, and any past and/or future benefits reviewed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @5.2.9    3 years ago
"I have no problem with any actual vets that want to honor the fallen on memorial day. I do have a problem with a leather clad pep club on motorcycles that would politicize that day at the expense of the fallen. to be clear, any vet that was inside the capitol building on 01/06/21 violated their oath to defend the constitution and needs to be punished to the full extent of the law. they should also have their loyalty, service records, and any past and/or future benefits reviewed."

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.11  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.2.9    3 years ago
I have no problem with any actual vets that want to honor the fallen on memorial day.

All the bitching and moaning certainly tells me otherwise.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.2.12  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2    3 years ago

You had no problem with Trump doing it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.2.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.2.12    3 years ago

and you know that Trump stopped it and that I was ok with that how exactly?

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
5.2.14  pat wilson  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.8    3 years ago

Biden didn't do anything. It was the Pentagon that refused the permit. Read the actual text of the article.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
5.2.15  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.4    3 years ago
You dont have to be Einstein or a psychic to know that this event would become a pro Trump rally.

No, you just have be ignorant and operate on stereotypes. This event doesn't have anything to do with Trump.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @5.2.15    3 years ago

Of course it would, in todays climate. He might even show up at it. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
5.2.17  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.4    3 years ago

But Biden and his supporters get to decide what those ways are? I don't think so.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5.2.18  JBB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.2.17    3 years ago

Remember? Elections have consequences...

That is what the gop said when Trump won.

There is a new sheriff in town folks respect.

Unlike the last guy who was corrupt as hell!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  pat wilson @5.2.14    3 years ago
"Biden didn't do anything. It was the Pentagon that refused the permit. Read the actual text of the article."

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devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.21  devangelical  replied to  dennis smith @5.2.20    3 years ago

bummer

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5    3 years ago

sounds like you are projecting what you think may happen.

let's deal in facts instead.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.4.1  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.4    3 years ago
let's deal in facts instead.

sounds good...

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.4.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.4.1    3 years ago

gee. that sure is different than the bull being spewed earlier, glad to see at least one has seenthelight

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.4.3  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @5.4.2    3 years ago

you mean bullshit like this?

Biden denies permit

always happy to help the less fortunate.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.4.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @5.4.3    3 years ago

lol

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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6  Greg Jones    3 years ago

The far left wacko extremists in Joe's administration appear to be totally in charge now.

The last groups that a government should alienate is the military, the vets, and law enforcement....while appeasing our enemies.

They're gonna come anyway. Lots of Dems and women and gays are vets....and like to ride. What will Biden do...call out National Guard and Capitol Police.   jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @6    3 years ago

The last groups that a government should alienate is the military, the vets, and law enforcement....while appeasing our enemies.

Now you're changing your tune?

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

Note, this is not about Trump, this is about your partisan beliefs, and how they constantly change.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
6.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1    3 years ago
Note, this is not about Trump,

Your buddies here seem to differ.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
6.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1    3 years ago

I've never changed my tune or beliefs about those groups. I never said I supported that statement attributed to Trump.

Go troll and bully someone else

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @6.1.2    3 years ago
I never said I supported that statement attributed to Trump.

Supported, no.  Defended, yes.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Sunshine @6.1.1    3 years ago

Your buddies here seem to differ.

About my comment not being about Trump?  Where do you see that?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
6.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Ozzwald @6.1.3    3 years ago

Another bald faced lie. I have never his idiotic statements.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
7  Mark in Wyoming     3 years ago

permit or no permit , whats going to stop a bunch of people using their chosen mode of transportation from using the roadways and going where they choose? Nothing.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1  Tessylo  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @7    3 years ago

Yeah, permits never stopped trumpturds.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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7.1.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Tessylo @7.1    3 years ago

people now need permits to travel where they choose to ?

 that change must be new.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1    3 years ago

Never stopped BLM or Antifa, either.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @7.1.1    3 years ago

If no one "needs" a permit to do anything, why do large groups routinely apply for permits?

Without a permit the police could close off areas the event wanted to use, and deny them any co-operation from any authorities and services they might want to avail themselves of.  For example, I seriously doubt they would be allowed to gather en masse at the Lincoln Memorial without a permit. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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7.1.4  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.3    3 years ago

john you actually answered your own question , the use of permits is mostly a safety concern so local authorities CAN close down avenues and approaches , LEGALLY.

That still does not answer what i asked ? whats to stop ANYONE from using their right to travel anywhere from doing so in accordance with current driving laws  ?

Your example of the Lincoln memorial made me chuckle , since when did the park police limit acsess to the national mall, to those that have a legal right to visit there?  Would it be they all road motorcycles there have anything to do with it?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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7.1.6  Mark in Wyoming   replied to    3 years ago
and in lieu of that, if the job is too daunting, we can legislate that some idiot will not be prosecuted for vehicular homicide. 

You must have disregarded the part where i said following all driving and traffic laws ......

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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7.1.8  Mark in Wyoming   replied to    3 years ago
Then why on earth the need to add such idiotic (and incendiary) laws to the books? 

My opinion is this is not the article to discuss this issue , feel free to open an article that discusses it , and yes i do have an opinion on the issue , just most wont like it which is alright because opinions are like buttholes , everyone has one and some just smell worse than others .

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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7.1.11  Mark in Wyoming   replied to    3 years ago

No arguments there , some do think theirs smells of rose petals 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.12  seeder  Texan1211  replied to    3 years ago

because some cities allow protesters to block traffic illegally.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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7.1.14  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.3    3 years ago

Again never stopped Antifa or BLM.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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8  Mark in Wyoming     3 years ago

Im too old and had too interesting a life to be a contortionist , hell i count myself lucky to be able to put my socks and shoes on by myself now.... i can remember when i was young and only my breakfast cereal went snap crackle and pop....nowdays....

 
 
 
Hallux
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9  Hallux    3 years ago

Without unneeded comment.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hallux @9    3 years ago

Right on, Hallux.  You just proved the headline of this seed to be absolute political bullshit - just about the only weapon the Republicans/conservatives/Trumpsters have left, they know that their ignorant followers witll eat it up. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1    3 years ago

please tell me you aren't naive enough to believe that the Pentagon acted unilaterally with no input from the WH or CIC.

Please!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.1    3 years ago

Well, I don't know for sure, but then neither do you.  If I were guessing, I'd say it went to the Secretary of Defence and MAYBE HE made the decision, and MAYBE he informed Biden who didn't disagree with him.    But then, the headline didn't say "MAYBE", did it?  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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11  pat wilson    3 years ago

People need to vet articles before seeding them, otherwise they end up looking stupid when the reality is quite different from their biased sources.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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11.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  pat wilson @11    3 years ago

When patriotic vets are barred from a freaking parking lot, it never looks good.

 
 
 
devangelical
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11.2  devangelical  replied to  pat wilson @11    3 years ago
they end up looking stupid when the reality is quite different from their biased sources

no worries. they're used to that here.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12  seeder  Texan1211    3 years ago

I wonder if any of the Biden Admin  folks ever gave a passing thought about how sad this looks for them.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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12.1  pat wilson  replied to  Texan1211 @12    3 years ago

Why would they ? What's sad is the article is bullshit.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  pat wilson @12.1    3 years ago

what is bullshit in the article?

please be explicit, because reasonable folks wouldn't consider it bullshit.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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12.1.2  Gazoo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.1    3 years ago

The only bullshit in this article is what dementia boy is pulling. 

“But sadly right now, in Joe Biden's America, it is easier to cross the border illegally than it is to get a permit to pay our respects to our nation's fallen heroes," Mast noted.”

that pretty much sums it up.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.1.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @12.1.2    3 years ago

yep!

sad, isn't it?

 
 
 
pat wilson
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12.1.4  pat wilson  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.1    3 years ago
please be explicit

Read Hallux's Snopes link. It's right there in plain english.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.1.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  pat wilson @12.1.4    3 years ago

read it.

did the Pentagon rescind their permit or not?

seems like snopes thinks so!

 
 
 
pat wilson
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12.1.6  pat wilson  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.5    3 years ago

That's the whole point. Your article and numerous posters here keep dragging Biden into it. That's the bullshit in your article.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.1.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  pat wilson @12.1.6    3 years ago

the fact that you think the WH knew nothing is hardly believable.

smh

 
 
 
Tessylo
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12.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Gazoo @12.1.2    3 years ago

Who is Mast?  Obviously some right wing shill.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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12.1.9  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.1.8    3 years ago

Who is Mast?

Read the fucking article and then you would know.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13  Buzz of the Orient    3 years ago

CDC: Sturgis Motorcycle Rally led to 'widespread transmission' of COVID-19

Four hundred sixty-three primary cases were reported within two weeks of the rally, and another 186 were identified as secondary contacts, making for 649 total cases traced back to the event. While specimens were not available for "full genome sequencing" to identify the rally as a super-spreader, the CDC reported that it had "many characteristics of a superspreading event."
In my opinion, it's not Biden who is politicizing a move that is meant to prevent what is BOUND to become a "superspreader" event, it is the Republicans/conservatives/Trumpsters, including those NT members who support the event who are poliiticizing the cancellation.  (But of course I'm not an American, so my view HAS to be politically biased.  s/)
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IN FACT, as SNOPES has determined, the decision was not at all political, had NOTHING to do with Biden, and now the Republicans/conservatives/Trumpsters are trying to make it political through their lying teeth.   The are SO FULL OF SHIT IT'S COMING OUT OF THEIR EARS.  But, of course, their redneck, white supremicist, nazi, Quanon followers will eat it up. 
In my opinion, those who have supported the headline of this seed should apologize for postng misinformation, but I'll bet they don't have the guts to do so - they have NEVER admitted that anything they posted was wrong, or ever apologized for having done so.  So much for THEIR integrity.
 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13    3 years ago

why would the Pentagon treat vets this way?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1    3 years ago

You should know that the Pentagon is the LAST place that would treat vets wrongly.  Maybe the Pentagon has taken note of what such a motorcycle rally can lead to (as I've noted above) and doesn't want to encourage MORE American virus infections and deaths.  The point here is that the headline of this article is pure garbage - let's see you admit THAT Texan.

Waiting....

 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13.1.1    3 years ago

yes, the headline is wrong.

I am sure Biden himself didn't cancel the Pentagon meeting in the parking lot, just as I am sure no one at the Pentagon made the decision all on their own without at least consulting the WH.

DC subways and busses are running. and fans are allowed in to see baseball games.

I don't see how this would be any more of a superspreader event than those are.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.1.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13.1.1    3 years ago

what are you waiting for?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1.2    3 years ago

Thank you.  

As for whether or not the Pentagon requested consultation, they probably did, and anyone with a brain in their head, taking into consideration the experience of Motorcycle Rallies, and the impobability of those who would attend such an event obeying poper anti-spreading guidelines would OBVIOUSLY advise against it, but that does NOT label Biden for that headline.

Are there not mask requirements for public transport in DC?  If not, are the people in DC either stupid or crazy?  Where I am, there hasn't been a virus case for a year and I sitll have to wear a mask to get on a bus or the subway.  And is there not at least an attendance number limit at baseball games? 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13.1.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1.3    3 years ago
"what are you waiting for?"

Your answer.  You did.  That's why I said "Thank you".

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
13.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13.1.4    3 years ago

the Pentagon didn't even bother to ask what any protocols the rally might have followed. that makes the decision suspect.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13.1.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1.6    3 years ago

How do you know that for sure?  Another guess on your part?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.1.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13.1.7    3 years ago

no, I read it in post 14. 

you should read it too.

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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13.1.9  Duck Hawk  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1    3 years ago

It could just be that the military dos not want to be politicized. Our veterans and our fallen are not to be pawns in political games. They are to important for the bullshit the previous administrations did to them. Now I will say that America needs to honor its fallen warriors, not combined into some crazy political event with no emphasis on our dead. I personally would not mention the orange one's name in the same sentence with our military's fallen. He showed the country what he felt about our honored fallen at the ceremony at Belleau Wood. Oh wait, he didn't attend the ceremony, in fact he called them a bunch of suckers and losers.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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13.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Duck Hawk @13.1.9    3 years ago

Yes, that's how the former occupant of the White House feels about everyone but himself  Everyone but him is a sucker and a loser.  He views his supporters as suckers and losers to be fleeced and they line up to be fleeced!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.1.11  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Duck Hawk @13.1.9    3 years ago
It could just be that the military dos not want to be politicized. Our veterans and our fallen are not to be pawns in political games.

That is most likely true. But vets honoring fallen vets hardly fits that category.

They are to important for the bullshit the previous administrations did to them. Now I will say that America needs to honor its fallen warriors, not combined into some crazy political event with no emphasis on our dead. I personally would not mention the orange one's name in the same sentence with our military's fallen. He showed the country what he felt about our honored fallen at the ceremony at Belleau Wood. Oh wait, he didn't attend the ceremony, in fact he called them a bunch of suckers and losers.

What the hell?

Trump has nothing to do with this.

Please, all leftwingers, check your TDS at the door.

there are plenty and have been literally thousands of articles for you to vent your hatred of the Orange Man on, why dirty up all the other articles that have zero to do with him. Can't y'all just stop it?

Can't you control yourselves at all?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13    3 years ago

got to hand it to you, you managed to slop most of the leftwing talking points into your post 

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Buzz of the Orient
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13.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2    3 years ago

Why not?  As you know I've also on other matters "slopped" right-wing talking points in my posts.  I'm not a slave to your political biases like so many Americans, and I can "slop" right, left or centre depending on what my own brain tells me, not some line I'm bound to follow in order to be "accepted" by those who DO happen to have those biases and lack of personal integrity. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
13.2.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13.2.1    3 years ago

oh. yes the holier than thou stance! 

love it!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13.2.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Texan1211 @13.2.2    3 years ago

Yes, I am, thank you for the compliment.  You must have got a glimpse of the halo over my head. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.2.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13.2.3    3 years ago

compliment??

lmao!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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13.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13    3 years ago
that is meant to prevent what is BOUND to become a "superspreader" event, i

Why do you ignore science? Imagine thinking, in 2021, that an outdoor event at the end of May will be a super spreader event. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.3.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.3    3 years ago

what's really bad is that the Pentagon simply rescinded the permit no questions asked.

and anyone with a brain knows the Admin. knew and approved.

 
 
 
Gazoo
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13.3.2  Gazoo  replied to  Texan1211 @13.3.1    3 years ago

“and anyone with a brain knows the Admin. knew and approved.”

You mean the pentagon answers to the commander in chief? jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13.3.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.3    3 years ago

Why do I ignore science?  Me jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
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13.3.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @13.3.2    3 years ago

apparently, that connection was impossible for some of our leftwing friends.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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13.3.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Sean Treacy @13.3    3 years ago
Imagine thinking, in 2021, that an outdoor event at the end of May will be a super spreader event.  

True if social distancing is followed I'm sure all will be safe. 

Unfortunately it seems not everyone is always responsible. IMO: That's the main reason we have so many laws even, because so many people lack personal responsibility to begin with. .. Sad.

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So this may have been a consideration: ?     

North Parking Lot at the Pentagon

.. LOL ... NOT Me.....  I'm just posting it... jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

My wife and I rode our Honda Gold Wing trikes down from New Jersey to Spanky's house in Virginia arriving Saturday. Spanky was hosting a cookout for the Southern Cruisers Riding Club (SCRC). We would be part of the SCRC group riding to the north parking lot of the Pentagon on Sunday to line up for Rolling Thunder.

We met up with the SCRC for breakfast at a local restaurant. The group was too large to ride together so it was split into two groups.

We rode up I95 and soon entered the center HOV lanes. We arrived at the Pentagon and weaved our way around the building to the north parking lot. This is the parking lot on the opposite side of the building from where the damage occurred during the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks.

There were numerous volunteers trying to direct us to our final positions in the parking lot. We were trying desperately to at least stay together with Spanky so we tried to ignore most of the frantic hand waving by the volunteers and kept our attention on Spanky's bike.

Bikes were packed together tightly in long columns and completely filled the lot within a few hours. We were at the head of a column looking directly at the Pentagon.

A grassy slope was way off to our right where many sat sunning themselves, waiting.

We arrived by 9 a.m. but the ride was not expected to begin until at least noon. There was no shade and the sun was hot. Many wouldn't get out until after 4 p.m.

Someone in the crowd had borrowed a ladder and climbed it to get a better picture of the crowd. That started a line of people wanting to use the ladder for their pictures too. Finally, someone stepped in and cut off the line so the poor guy could return the ladder. Here's a picture my wife got on top of that ladder.

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Something else I thought of that may not be real safe because of all the people maybe restaurants and hotels. I'm sure there is lots of close up partying going on as well. 

Also I doubt the Rolling thunder ride is the only think still being affected by the virus. Sloowly we are trying to get back to more normal  Sloooowly and carefully ... LOL   "Conservatively so even... jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif "

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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13.3.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13.3.3    3 years ago

Yes. Putting aside the number of people who will be vaccinated, if you still believe an outdoor event in the summer is bound to be a super spreader event you don't understand the science.  T

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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13.3.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @13.3.5    3 years ago
I thought of that may not be real safe because of all the people maybe restaurants and hotels.

That could be an issue if people are crowding indoors,  but the event itself wouldn't be. Although with vaccinations becoming more prevalent, I think the days of "super spreader" events are pretty much past. 

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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13.3.8  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Sean Treacy @13.3.7    3 years ago
That could be an issue if people are crowding indoors,  but the event itself wouldn't be.

Seems it would be kinda hard to social distance the whole time though. I agree when riding the chance of exposure would be probably next to zero. 

And Yes, I would imagine after dark would be the time to be most careful when people move indoors for dinner, partying and lodging. 

PS: I'll  bet every restaurant, hotel, motel and RV park is swamped close to and all long the ride.

I'm sure it's a good time, But I'd be careful, Tomorrow is another day and I hate being sick...lol    

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13.3.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.3.6    3 years ago

Yeah, taking into consideration the people who are bound to attend such an event and the improbability of preventative guidelines being followed religiously, and from experience already gained from such events, and the fact that today's daily figure of new coronavirus cases and deaths from Johns Hopkins is 40,733 cases and 933 deaths in America notwithstanding the number of people vaccinated, and the event is only a little more than three weeks away, and as Yogi Berra said, "it isn't over 'till it's over",I think I DO understand the science, but I also know that denial is not unknown among others.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13.3.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @13.3.5    3 years ago

Internet photos (Bing) of the Rolling Thunder event 2020, duing the worst of the pandemic.  As here noted by a supporter of the event, the pandemic is so well under control now due to vaccinations, so surely isn't it bound to be an even more massive event?  It's not just the riders, it's all the others who attend.

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Tessylo
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13.4  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @13    3 years ago

Spot on Buzz!

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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14  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     3 years ago

The @DeptofDefense has denied a parking permit to the American Veterans, or AmVets, to stage a rallying point at the Pentagon,

“Memorial Day traditions like Rolling to Remember have been granted permits by every administration, Democrat and Republican, for the past 30 years,” said Rep. Brian Mast (R-FL). “The Biden Administration’s decision to end this Memorial Day tradition flies in the face of the freedoms that so many have died to protect,” Rep. Mast told Fox News.

A special events section of the Pentagon had approved AMVETS’ permit for Rolling to Remember on March 11 but then revoked it. Last month, Mast — a 12-year Army veteran who worked as a bomb disposal expert and lost both his legs while deployed in Afghanistan — wrote a letter to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin urging him to “promptly approve” the permit in April.

In his letter, Mast said the Pentagon approved the permit “only to revoke that approval a week later, citing a ‘routing error’ and the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. The event is being put at risk by the refusal of the Pentagon to approve the permit in a timely manner.”

AMVETS’ national executive director Joe Chennelly expressed his disappointment with the decision on “Fox & Friends First” on Monday.
“Our biggest disappointment with the Pentagon’s decision here was that they never gave us an opportunity, despite us asking many times, to be able to present a plan of how we would be able to meet at the Pentagon parking lot outdoors in a safe, responsible way,” Chennelly said.

“What, traditionally, this event has been all about is our missing in action. We have more than 80,000 Americans who are still missing in action since World War II,” Chennelly said. “We are committed to still having a central staging area. … We have a Plan B and a Plan C.”

w.dailywire.com/news/biden-administration-blasted-for-ending-vets-30-year-old-memorial-day-rolling-thunder-motorcycle-parade

 
 
 
charger 383
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15  charger 383    3 years ago

If you tell bikers they can't do something that they have been doing, that will just make them more determined to do it and more of them will show up

 
 
 
Tessylo
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15.1  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @15    3 years ago

They would be idiots to do so.  

 
 

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