New York Times issues massive correction after overstating COVID hospitalizations among children

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 months ago  •  55 comments

By:   Brian Flood (Fox News)

New York Times issues massive correction after overstating COVID hospitalizations among children
The New York Times issued a massive correction Thursday after the liberal newspaper severely misreported the number of COVID hospitalities among children in the United States by more than 800,000.

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The New York Times issued a massive correction Thursday after the liberal newspaper severely misreported the number of COVID hospitalities among children in the United States by more than 800,000.

A report headlined "A New Vaccine Strategy for Children: Just One Dose, for Now," by science and health reporter Apoorva Mandavilli, was peppered with errors before major changes were made to the story. The Times initially reported "nearly 900,000 children have been hospitalized" with COVID since the pandemic began, when the factual data in the now-corrected version is that "more than 63,000 children were hospitalized with Covid-19 from August 2020 to October 2021."

The New York Times issued a massive correction Thursday after the liberal newspaper severely misreported the number of COVID hospitalities among children in United States. (Photo by Don EMMERT / AFP) (Photo by DON EMMERT/AFP via Getty Images) (DON EMMERT/AFP via Getty Images)

The paper also botched actions taken by regulators in Sweden and Denmark and even bungled the timing of a critical FDA meeting.

"An earlier version of this article incorrectly described actions taken by regulators in Sweden and Denmark. They have halted use of the Moderna vaccine in children; they have not begun offering single doses. The article also misstated the number of Covid hospitalizations in U.S. children. It is more than 63,000 from August 2020 to October 2021, not 900,000 since the beginning of the pandemic. In addition, the article misstated the timing of an F.D.A. meeting on authorization of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for children. It is later this month, not next week," the lengthy correction stated in full.

Journalist Jeryl Bier asked, "How did an error that large happen, @NYTimes?"

Columnist Phil Kerpen sarcastically said the Times reporter was "meeting her usual standards" with the inaccurate report.

Journalist Glenn Greenwald mocked the paper, too.

"NYT had an outstanding, highly experienced COVID reporter, but was fired because he made very rich teenagers unhappy when forced to entertain them on a paid trip," he wrote, referring to Donald McNeil Jr., who was forced to step down earlier this year.

"Now we have an incompetent in his place constantly doing this, or saying it's racist to investigate COVID origins," Greenwald added, referring to when Mandavilli said the coronavirus "lab-leak" theory had "racist roots."

Many observers also mocked the paper for printing that Mandavilli "is the 2019 winner of the Victor Cohn Prize for Excellence in Medical Science Reporting" directly below the correction.

Rutgers University professor Richard H. Ebright feels the prize is "awarded to the dimmest candles on the science stenographer cake."

"Basically it has devolved to being an award for diligence in group think and virtue signaling," he added.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 months ago

There is a big difference between 100,000 and 900,000.

Gee, why would they do that?

I think most here can agree that the Times is devoid of truth.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
1.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago
most here

WTH does that mean? Start of with how many are here to begin with.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hallux @1.1    2 months ago

27 right now signed in with 36 visitors.

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
1.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.1    2 months ago

So that makes 63 in total and 'most' would be 32 agreeing "that the Times is devoid of truth." It would take an act of partisan faith to believe this is the breakdown and as you know, I don't buy into those products.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @1.1.2    2 months ago

I'd say it's more like 54 agreeing and 9 dedicated to anything with a (D) folowing it's name.

Just one man's opinion

 
 
 
Hallux
Sophomore Principal
1.1.4  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    2 months ago

When the cows come home they might agree you.

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.1.5  squiggy  replied to  Hallux @1.1    2 months ago

Count me in and I recall the last data manipulator was sent shuffling off to Buffalo.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago

It was an attempt to reinforce the control freaks desire to gag kids as young as 2 with face diapers.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2    2 months ago

Yes Sir, that was the obvious motive that nobody else has mentioned.

 
 
 
dennis smith
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1.3  dennis smith  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago

Because they are liars. I am sure some will comment in their defense which is indefensible.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  dennis smith @1.3    2 months ago

Actually the Times is far more dangerous than the Gateway Pundit.  The Times is still regarded as a legacy News organization, while the Gateway Pundit is viewed as a farce. Yet both are activist outlets that produce pulp fiction.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago

I don't read the NY Slimes so I can't attest to their truth or lack therefore of.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2  Nerm_L    2 months ago

What's surprising is a correction was published.  Now that Facebook is under scrutiny for spreading misinformation and under threat of regulation, news organizations are trying to stay out of the line of fire and carve out exemptions for themselves.  This may be too little, too late.

The problem is less about the reporting and more about editorial oversight.  Facebook moderates content but, apparently, the New York Times does not.  That's what the current impetus to regulate Facebook will bring into focus.  Don't be surprised that Facebook will use sloppy reporting and lax oversight by news organizations to argue against being regulated.  And that will make it harder for traditional news organizations to avoid being regulated, too.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @2    2 months ago
What's surprising is a correction was published.

Really? I have yet to come across a newspaper that did not publish corrections.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Hallux @2.1    2 months ago
Really? I have yet to come across a newspaper that did not publish corrections.

Newspapers also publish retractions when the reported facts are so grossly inaccurate that the reporting is nothing other than misinformation that can't be corrected.  That's no different than Facebook blocking content.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.1    2 months ago
That's no different than Facebook blocking content.

You have far more operable synapses than that.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Hallux @2.1    2 months ago

My mother worked for a newspaper and occasionally they had to publish corrections.  They did not bury them in the back of the paper as so many do.  When they were wrong, they owned it and made sure people would see them.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Nerm_L @2    2 months ago

Lately Facebook has been running ads stating the want the internet regulations updated. I find that a bit strange given their present situation.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2    2 months ago
Lately Facebook has been running ads stating the want the internet regulations updated. I find that a bit strange given their present situation.

Look at what Facebook is supporting.  Facebook advocates regulating advertising content, data portability, privacy, and censoring illegal activity.  Facebook's advocacy isn't addressing the distribution of misinformation which is what is receiving regulatory attention at the moment.

Facebook is attempting to avoid being considered a publisher of content.  But using regulation to force Facebook to bear responsibility for content published on the site won't be limited to Facebook; that will also affect publishers like the New York Times.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @2.2.1    2 months ago
that will also affect publishers like the New York Times.

As it will the NYP, the WSJ, FOX and a plethora of other sources if that is the case.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3  Split Personality    2 months ago

Ask a simple question of the internet and one is overwhelmed with CDC, AAP and CHA data which expresses itself in percentages

rather than answer a simple question or two.

How many children have been hospitalized for Covid since 2019?

How many children died from Covid since 2019?

I still don't know.

I know I am sick of reading the word "reported" by different states that skew the results.

Shocked to see how many kids tested positive so far.  ( almost 6 million )

Within this article is the 09/30/2021 report from AAP & CHA which is loaded with enough charts to make your head spin.

This chart may have confused the reporter ( note it is data from only 24 states )

The chart states it is a summary of child data

but the questionable column says (all ages )

800

The CDC reports 3,096,659 hospitalizations from all states "reporting".

curiously they report adult hospitalization trends and ignore the child hospitalization rates.

Reminds me of The Rime of the Ancient Mariner,

Water, Water everywhere and not a drop to drink....

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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3.1  mocowgirl  replied to  Split Personality @3    2 months ago

I will provide a link to a CDC weekly report that I have been following for months.  It gives details about covid related deaths by age, gender and location at time of death.

To date, there have been 499 covid related deaths out of 58,167 total deaths of children aged 0-17 years.  3739 covid related out of 110,769 for 18-29 age group and 10,872 covid related out of 160,184 for 30-39 age group.  

For all age groups, there have been 700,952 covid related deaths out of 5,808,094 total deaths from 2019 to 10/6/2021.  The vast majority in the over 65 age groups.

It doesn't appear that it is even the under 40 age group that is responsible for filling hospital beds because of covid or are at risk of dying if they don't get the vaccine.

People, with underlying health conditions, and anyone over the age of 65 should probably be vaccinated.  I say probably because some people may have conditions that may make the vaccine either dangerous or ineffective for them.  These people need to be guided by their doctor.  If the US had a better health care system in place, we probably would not have had over 700,000 covid related deaths because of underlying conditions that should have been dealt with before covid ever came into existence.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

It's okay Vic.  Lets not be concerned that people with genuine urgent life-threatening conditions can't get into a hospital or an ICU bed because they're all taken up by people who said FUCK THE VACCINE and are there filling the beds. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    2 months ago

In many large cities it is African American and Hispanic American people who are doing this and filling those beds.  Not your typical Trump conservative profile.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.1  Kavika   replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    2 months ago
In many large cities it is African American and Hispanic American people who are doing this and filling those beds.  Not your typical Trump conservative profile.  

Here are the real facts, XX. 

Table 1: Percent of People who Have Received at Least One COVID-19 Vaccine Dose by Race/Ethnicity
Date White Black Hispanic
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (Total Population) April 30, 2021 27% 19% 19%
Sept 20, 2021 41% 35% 42%
KFF Analysis of State Reported Data (Total Population) April 26, 2021 38% 24% 25%
Sept 20, 2021 53% 45% 49%
KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor Survey (Adults) April 15-29, 2021 60% 51% 47%
Sept 13-22, 2021 71% 70% 73%

As of September 2021, the   federal data   from CDC show similar vaccination rates between Hispanic and White people, with lower rates persisting for Black people, and the highest rate for American Indian and Alaska Native and Asian people. Analysis of   state data   finds that Black and Hispanic people are less likely than White people to be vaccinated, but with a narrower gap for Hispanic people. The Vaccine Monitor survey data show that the gaps in rates for Black and Hispanic adults compared to White adults have closed, with no statistically significant differences in vaccination rates across these groups. A   Pew Research Center survey   conducted in August had similar findings.

If you insist on pointing fingers perhaps you should point your finger at this group with which you are surely familiar.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    2 months ago

Oh God, they don't want to hear that!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    2 months ago
Oh God, they don't want to hear that!

Of course not, why listen to lies and BS when the real facts are posted in response to XX comment.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @4.1.3    2 months ago

Your facts backed up his comment.

Analysis of      state data      finds that Black and Hispanic people are less likely than White people to be vaccinated,


Well done. And a shoutout to Google!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.5  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.4    2 months ago

Actually, the facts show that Hispanics overall have a higher vaccinated rate than whites, 73% vs 71% and Blacks have an overall rate 1 point lower 71% vs 70%

The Vaccine Monitor survey data show that the gaps in rates for Black and Hispanic adults compared to White adults have closed, with no statistically significant differences in vaccination rates across these groups. A      Pew Research Center survey      conducted in August had similar findings.

The link below that shows that white Evangelicals are the least likely to be vaccinated.

Native Americans/Alaska Natives, Pacific Islanders, Native Hawaiians and Asians all have a higher vaccination rate than whites.

Your welcome.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @4.1.5    2 months ago
Actually, the facts show that Hispanics overall have a higher vaccinated rate than whites,

First of all many to most "Hispanics" are white and second they were never thought to be resisting the vaccine.


and Blacks have an overall rate 1 point lower 71% vs 70%

The rate of blacks may have improved but as your article proves they were one of the groups that resisted the drug.

Again:

 with lower rates persisting for Black people,


Your welcome.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.7  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.6    2 months ago
First of all many to most "Hispanics" are white and second they were never thought to be resisting the vaccine.

That ''never thought to be resisting the vaccine. That is load of BS, Vic. All you have to do is look at comments in this tread. Here is an example.

In many large cities it is African American and Hispanic American people who are doing this and filling those beds.  Not your typical Trump conservative profile.  

The rate of blacks may have improved but as your article proves they were one of the groups that resisted the drug.

71% to 70% not that difficult even for anyone understand perhaps with the except of those that refuse to see. 

Your welcome again.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.8  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.6    2 months ago

0ne more time

29% of 205million self identifying white people is 59.5 million

30% off 44 million self identifying black people is 13.2 million 

27% of 60 million self identifying hispanics is        16.2 million

.

It doesn't take a computer scientist or a chess champion to see that the largest number is the largest problem.

Splitting hairs and focusing on a 1% difference in racial data is a racist hang up

and a poor argument in any field, yet the poor folks at KFF are obsessed with race.

KFF uses a combination of data and surveys and works with 535 to compile graphs and statistics.

Their margin or error ranges from 3% to 7% along even further racial conclusions.

KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor: September 2021

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
4.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    2 months ago

Sweet Jesus, Vic thinks the reporter and the NYT are deliberately spreading lies

then you chime in with more misinformation based on race.

Congratulations.

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
4.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.8    2 months ago

In other words

Out of every 90 unvaccinated people

60 are white

16 prefer Hispanic to white racial designation

and 13 are black

so sure, blame the black people /S

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.11  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @4.1.7    2 months ago
All you have to do is look at comments in this tread. Here is an example

I have a better idea. How about looking at facts.

From our beloved MSN:

"Black Americans distrust the government so much they're not participating in large numbers in COVID-19 clinical trials, and many say they won't get a COVID-19 vaccine – at least not until many others get it.

Although the first two large clinical trials of candidate vaccines have managed to include about 3,000 Black participants each, it hasn't been easy. And later trials might have even more trouble. 

Polls show that among racial and ethnic groups, Black Americans are the most hesitant to get a vaccine once one becomes available, and their skepticism is rising fast. In   one September survey , only 32% of Black adults said they would get a vaccine, down from 54% in May."




And you are very welcome!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.12  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.11    2 months ago

Moving the goal post when you can't back up your comments. It was about Hispanics, Vic, now you've switched to blacks. Yet again blacks are vaccinated at a 70% rate, whites 71%.

In raw numbers.

Out of every 90 unvaccinated people

60 are white

16 prefer Hispanic to white racial designation

and 13 are black

Those are facts that you seem to want to avoid. 

Since you are doing your best to lay blame on first, Hispanics and when that failed blacks, take aim at white Evangelicals. 

But it’s the overlap between white Republicans and white evangelicals that is especially telling, as white evangelical Republicans are among the most likely groups in the U.S. to refuse vaccination. According to a June survey by the Public Religion Research Institute, where I’m the research director, and the Interfaith Youth Core, white evangelical Republicans were considerably less likely to say they were vaccinated or planning to get vaccinated as soon as possible (53 percent) than Republicans who were not white evangelicals (62 percent). Moreover, white evangelical Republicans were the most likely of any large subgroup we surveyed to say they were refusing to get vaccinated (26 percent).
If you want to play the blame game when Whites have the vaccinated rate of NA/AI, Asians and Pacific Islanders you might have something to stand on, until then your argument rings hollow and bigoted.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.13  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.8    2 months ago
It doesn't take a computer scientist or a chess champion to see that the largest number is the largest problem.

Then California has the largest number of covid deaths, regardless of size of population? Another problem solved. 

And do tell, how many of the whites were wearing red hats?


Splitting hairs and focusing on a 1% difference in racial data is a racist hang up

Really? Well guess which members are all bent out of shape over it?


and a poor argument in any field, yet the poor folks at KFF are obsessed with race.

No, it's not the folks at KFF. It's the people who have weaponized race and patronize blacks that need to cling to this narrative about who it is that is not getting vaccinated. If you are so upset about black resistance to the vaccine, take a look at it from another viewpoint. It wasn't until the recent government mandates that we began to realize how many teachers and nurses and first responders hadn't been vaccinated. Wasn't a special place carved out for them at the front of the line to get vaccinated?  Then again the msm does have it's little narrative about who "they" are, right?






 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.9    2 months ago
Vic thinks the reporter and the NYT are deliberately spreading lies

Oh, in other words the thoudands of times that the Times got it wrong always against Trump, always against Republicans, always agains whites and always against local police was just a coincidence???? 

They aren't an activist organization....they just make mistakes.  Got it!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kavika @4.1.12    2 months ago
It was about Hispanics, Vic,

I never brought up Hispanics...YOU DID!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.16  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.15    2 months ago

actually XX was the one that brought them up. I posted the facts on Hispanics and all races. You took exception and put in your 2 cents.

I also added a link about white Evangelicals which you don't seem to want to comment on. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.14    2 months ago
Oh, in other words the thoudands of times that the Times got it wrong always against Trump, always against Republicans, always agains whites and always against local police was just a coincidence???? 

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.1.18  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.14    2 months ago
Oh, in other words the thoudands of times that the Times got it wrong always against Trump, always against Republicans, always agains whites and always against local police was just a coincidence?

Are you a subscriber Vic?

Can you prove any of that?

Or is that just your emotional interpretation?

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
4.1.19  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.13    2 months ago
And do tell, how many of the whites were wearing red hats?

Which whites? Which red hat? The Red Hat Society?

According to the KFF survey in July which I have posted several times,

of the self identifying whites who said they will never get vaccinated,

85% were Republicans of above average income, more than a HS education,

employed and 77% were depending on their health insurance rather than the vaccine.

It's the people who have weaponized race and patronize blacks that need to cling to this narrative about who it is that is not getting vaccinated.

Like the two conservative members here that keep bringing it up over and over as if it does have some meaning?

Have you ever corrected either one or have you voted up their comments?

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
4.1.20  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.11    2 months ago
Polls show that among racial and ethnic groups, Black Americans are the most hesitant to get a vaccine once one becomes available, and their skepticism is rising fast. In   one September survey , only 32% of Black adults said they would get a vaccine, down from 54% in May."

And you sir, are trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

Thanks for providing the link.

The first hyperlink goes to article \ dated 09/17/2020.

Your MSN link is dated 10/29/2020

How relevant is either link to today "FACTS"?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
4.1.21  Kavika   replied to  Split Personality @4.1.20    2 months ago
How relevant is either link to today "FACTS"?

Not at all, the stat's you and I provided are up to date [deleted] Hispanics 73%, Blacks 70% and whites 71%.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.22  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @4.1.20    2 months ago
How relevant is either link to today

VERY!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @4.1.3    2 months ago
"Oh God, they don't want to hear that!"

"Of course not, why listen to lies and BS when the real facts are posted in response to XX comment."

Of course not, we want the truth.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.24  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.23    2 months ago
Of course not, we want the truth.  

Sometimes the truth is hard to take

For example:

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Some can't handle it!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.25  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.23    2 months ago

Some posters never post the truth.  Or facts.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    2 months ago

And what has that got to do with the New York Times lying?

Are you suggesting that lying is a means to an end?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2    2 months ago

The title and the article speak of great numbers of hospitalizations.  I didn't say or suggest anything about lying, but don't worry, I didn't put words in YOUR mouth. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.1    2 months ago

So you wanted to talk about hospitalizations.  Got it!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
4.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4    2 months ago

There was a story not too long ago about a man suffering a cardiac crisis.  No beds available due to unvaccinate aholes taking up the spaces.  He died.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
4.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.3    2 months ago

There has been more than one story about that problem happening.  What it comes down to is that innocent people who have done everything right are dying because of those who ignorantly and selfishly refuse to do what is necessary to curb the virus.  IMO the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers are suicidal murderers.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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4.3.2  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.3.1    2 months ago

I have published several.  Heart disease and a gall stone problems,

by the time they found beds in a Veteran Hospital

they were beyond help.

 
 
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