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Texas Gov. Abbott Asks Biden for Help With COVID Testing, Antibody Treatments

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  krishna  •  3 years ago  •  207 comments

By:   By Frank Heinz

Texas Gov. Abbott Asks Biden for Help With COVID Testing, Antibody Treatments
Dr. Joseph Chang, chief medical officer at Parkland, said most of the COVID-19 patients ending up in the hospital are unvaccinated.

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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (CNBC)

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) is asking the Biden Administration for help managing the ongoing COVID-19 crisis in Texas.

Abbott on Friday released a statement saying the Texas Division of Emergency Management (TDEM) and the Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) requested resources for federally-supported testing locations in Bexar, Cameron, Dallas, Harris, Hidalgo, and Tarrant counties.

The governor said the state health department has also requested three teams of medical personnel to provide additional support to hospitals in urban areas of the state that do not have DSHS-contracted staff as well as additional allocations of monoclonal antibody treatments to fight the omicron variant and other variants of the virus.

"Detecting COVID-19 and preventing COVID-related hospitalizations are critical to our fight against this virus," said Abbott in a prepared statement. "Testing sites, additional medical staff, and continued shipments of therapeutics from the federal government will help us continue to save lives and mitigate the spread of COVID-19."

COVID Cases Rising Across DFW, Texas


In the last week, the number of new cases of COVID-19 has skyrocketed across the state while hospitalizations in DFW have doubled. The molecular positivity rate reported by the state health department on Thursday was at an all-time high since the pandemic began nearly two years ago.

On Tuesday, Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas reported its patient load doubled in just four days.  The hospital said staff is preparing to open two more COVID-19 wards by the end of this week.

Dr. Joseph Chang, chief medical officer at Parkland, said most of the COVID-19 patients ending up in the hospital are unvaccinated.


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Krishna
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1  seeder  Krishna    3 years ago

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) is asking the Biden Administration for help managing the ongoing COVID-19 crisis in Texas. The governor said the state health department has also requested three teams of medical personnel to provide additional support to hospitals . . .

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Krishna @1    3 years ago

FO abbott. go piss on an electric fence.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2  Dulay  replied to  Krishna @1    3 years ago

Maybe he should recall the 10,000 NG and State Troopers that he deployed last November to build a shipping container 'border wall'. 

10,000 National Guard and Texas state troopers deployed to border for 'Operation Lone Star' (borderreport.com)

Oh, and maybe he should rethink his December 2021 opposition to the Federal Vaccine mandate for the NG since he needs to deploy them to mitigate his incompetent Covid policies. 

Governor Abbott Condemns U.S. Department of Defense's Vaccine Mandate And Refuses To Enforce It Against Texas National Guard | Office of the Texas Governor | Greg Abbott

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Dulay @1.2    3 years ago

Maybe Biden should end the single largest super spreader event in the world, and actually enforce our immigration laws, by shutting down the southern border.

Texas shouldn't have to do the federal government's job; but Biden and the Democrats are too damn incompetent.

Biden should put a federal mandate that all illegal immigrants will be vaccinated. Especially considering Texas has the second largest illegal immigrant population in the US. But seems he can only go full fascist on US citizens.

Considering that 18 to 20 percent of illegals coming into the US have covid. How many of those hospitalized are illegals? That is on the federal government, not Texas.

Tell Biden and the Democrats to do their damn jobs and secure the Southern border.

 

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.1    3 years ago
Maybe Biden should end the single largest super spreader event in the world, and actually enforce our immigration laws, by shutting down the southern border.

The way Trump did?

/sarc

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.1    3 years ago
Maybe Biden should end the single largest super spreader event in the world

he did, on 1/20/21.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.4  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.1    3 years ago

Their are nearly no brown immigrant refugees from South of Rio Grande in NY but there are about a million Russians and Yugoslavians and Ukrainians and other Eastern European who overstayed their visas Trump let in still clogged our courts and bidding up housing.

The reason nobody will ever stop it is that immigrants do, have and always will be a net positive for America. What really bothers you is that refugees from South of our border tend to be poor and not white. Still, it is legal and okay to ask for refugee status.. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.5  Dulay  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.1    3 years ago
Maybe Biden should end the single largest super spreader event in the world, and actually enforce our immigration laws, by shutting down the southern border.

That is a xenophobic LIE. 

There is NO evidence that immigrants are part of a 'super spreader event' or ANY size. NONE, NADA. 

Secondly, I invite you to post a link to exactly what immigration law you claim that Biden isn't enforcing. I won't hold my breath for your answer. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.6  GregTx  replied to  Dulay @1.2.5    3 years ago

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.7  Dulay  replied to  GregTx @1.2.6    3 years ago

Propaganda doesn't cut it here Greg. Find some FACTS to post why don't ya. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.8  GregTx  replied to  Dulay @1.2.7    3 years ago

CBP COVID-19 Updates and Announcements | U.S. Customs and Border Protection

Peculiar that the states with the most Covid cases among CBP Agents happen to be the ones along the southern border.....

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.9  Dulay  replied to  GregTx @1.2.8    3 years ago

Again Greg, you ignore the actual data. 

There are just over 21,000 CBP agents. Of that number, just under 18,000 are assigned to the southern border. That's close to 86% Greg. 

So, it's NOT 'peculiar that the states with the most Covid cases among CBP Agents happen to be the ones along the southern border', statistically, it's a GIVEN. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.10  Dulay  replied to  Dulay @1.2.9    3 years ago
Peculiar that the states with the most Covid cases among CBP Agents happen to be the ones along the southern border.

Oh and BTFW, TX has more CBP + agents than the 3 other border states combined. Maybe it has more to do with the STATE than the border. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.11  GregTx  replied to  Dulay @1.2.9    3 years ago

No, I'm not the one ignoring data. Have a nice day Dulay.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.12  Dulay  replied to  GregTx @1.2.8    3 years ago

Isn't it peculiar that of all of the counties along the border in TX, only El Paso Co. is in the top 10 in numbers of Covid cases? Based on YOUR claims, one would think that every TX county along the border would be inundated. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.13  Dulay  replied to  GregTx @1.2.11    3 years ago

If you're not ignoring that fact that 86% of the CBP agents are on the southern border, WHY do you think it's 'peculiar' that is where the majority of Covid + agents work Greg?  

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.14  Dulay  replied to  GregTx @1.2.11    3 years ago

Greg, I am the only one that has actually posted data so you must be the one ignoring it. Your yahoo link doesn't count, it's unfounded innuendo. You want to cherry pick data from the CBP website but refuse to acknowledge that the data there is based on 86% of the agents being assigned to the southern border. The data to support that fact is on that same CBP website. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.15  GregTx  replied to  Dulay @1.2.13    3 years ago

Close to 50% of that 86% have gotten Covid. Roughly 27% in Texas alone. I'm not ignoring anything.

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.16  GregTx  replied to  Dulay @1.2.5    3 years ago
There is NO evidence that immigrants are part of a 'super spreader event' or ANY size. NONE, NADA

That is your claim, correct?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.17  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.2.15    3 years ago

Does it also say how many of our Texas agents are unvaccinated?

800

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GregTx
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1.2.18  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.17    3 years ago

I thought agents were federal employees. Do you have some information that indicates that agents in Texas were unvaccinated at a higher rate than the rest of the agents?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.19  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.2.18    3 years ago

C'mon Greg, I asked you first .

You're playing a game with statistics 

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.20  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.19    3 years ago

How so? I don't have any information about what the vaccination rate is in CBP. Do you?

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.21  GregTx  replied to  GregTx @1.2.20    3 years ago

So you're just deflecting then to post your meme again. Got it..

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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1.2.22  Steve Ott  replied to  Dulay @1.2.12    3 years ago

Texas reports more than 1 in 4 COVID-19 tests are positive, a record high, as omicron spreads

As a percentage of population, the cases are fairly low when compared to the rest of the state.

 
 
 
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Split Personality
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1.2.24  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.2.20    3 years ago

yes, all you have to do is type "vaccination rates of CBP agents"...

EXCLUSIVE: CBP Vaccination Rate Increased After Mandate Deadline (shorenewsnetwork.com)

the problem is that of the 12,000 plus positive tests, it doesn't tell you if they were just positive or actually sick

with CoVID-19 or Omicron.

Since only 55 CBP employees out of 64,000 have died ( 0.00085%)

and only 33 TSA employees out of 60,000 have died (0.0005%)

Vaccination rates rise at TSA and CBP ahead of holiday season (thepointsguy.com)

I would say both agencies are doing much better than the general public at 0.018%

cbp has 238 million interactions per year

tsa has 700 million interactions per year

and yet 

The DCNF earlier reported that as of Nov. 14, 16,500 border agents were fully vaccinated, and 4,165 border agents were unvaccinated. The federal mandate deadline was Nov. 22

There are only 21,923 actual border agents now meaning 21% were unvaccinated

The latest figures show that 3,478 agents were considered not fully vaccinated as of Tuesday, with religious or medical exemption requests. According to the document, 315 agents aren’t fully vaccinated and have not submitted exemption requests. The document also shows that 419 agents were “unresponsive” to the mandate.

Roughly 16% still unvaccinated with 2% at risk for discipline or separation as of Dec 06...

NONE of which gives a hint as to where they work although as Dulay pointed out

the majority of the 21,923 current agents are assigned to the Southern Border

approximately 80% of them.

and the vast majority of those are assigned to Texas.

....

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.25  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.2.21    3 years ago

Talking to yourself instead of watching the Rose Bowl?

smh

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.26  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.25    3 years ago

Carry on SP, carry on...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.27  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.2.26    3 years ago

Go Bears !

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.28  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.27    3 years ago

So just bullshit then? Mmmmkay

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.29  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.2.28    3 years ago

About what Greg?

You asked, I answered, now you deflect with an insult ala JBB?

Have a happy and prosperous New Year

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.30  JBB  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.29    3 years ago

Care to explain that? I honestly have no idea...

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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1.2.31  Steve Ott  replied to  GregTx @1.2.23    3 years ago

Gee, I don't know. Maybe because they aren't as stupid about it as say, the people in Amarillo (where I was born and grew up)?

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.32  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.29    3 years ago

Riiiiggghhht, you as well S, [Deleted]

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.33  GregTx  replied to  Steve Ott @1.2.31    3 years ago

Yes, I think that's probably it...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.34  Split Personality  replied to  JBB @1.2.30    3 years ago

Mmmmkay?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.2.35  al Jizzerror  replied to  devangelical @1.2.3    3 years ago

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al Jizzerror
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1.2.36  al Jizzerror  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.17    3 years ago

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1.2.37  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  devangelical @1.2.3    3 years ago
he did, on 1/20/21.

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GregTx
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1.2.38  GregTx  replied to  Dulay @1.2.14    3 years ago
There is NO evidence that immigrants are part of a 'super spreader event' or ANY size. NONE, NADA

To clarify, almost 9,000 of the almost 18,000 agents working along the southern border have contracted Covid during a year that has had levels of illegal immigration not seen in decades, and you don't think that might be evidence? 

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.2.39  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.24    3 years ago

Okay, so if it was roughly 21% that were unvaccinated, then all of around 1800 of the roughly 9000 were unvaccinated. Huh?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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1.2.40  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1.2.39    3 years ago

Yeah huh?

Read it again

11/15/2021 = 21%

12/06/2021 = 16%

Let's see what their next report says.

Remember testing positive is meaningless unless you are symptomatic

or die

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.41  Dulay  replied to  GregTx @1.2.38    3 years ago
To clarify, almost 9,000 of the almost 18,000 agents working along the southern border have contracted Covid during a year that has had levels of illegal immigration not seen in decades, and you don't think that might be evidence? 

Innuendo isn't evidence Greg. Instead of flapping his gums about bullshit, the President of the CBP Union should be actively ensuring that his members are practicing proper Covid mitigation both on the job and at home. 

You'll be happy to hear that since the Federal vaccine mandate, 98% of CBP employees are in compliance. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.42  seeder  Krishna  replied to  GregTx @1.2.11    3 years ago
Have a nice day Dulay.

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Krishna
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1.2.43  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Split Personality @1.2.17    3 years ago

There's no cure for "Stuck on Stupid":

320

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.44  seeder  Krishna  replied to  GregTx @1.2.20    3 years ago
I don't have any information about what the vaccination rate is in CBP

Well, based on your comments that is pretty obvious...

 
 
 
Krishna
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1.2.45  seeder  Krishna  replied to  JBB @1.2.4    3 years ago
but there are about a million Russians and Yugoslavians and Ukrainians and other Eastern European who overstayed their visas Trump let in still clogged our courts and bidding up housing.

Yes-- but remember-- they're White!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @1    3 years ago

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signs order on mask, vaccine mandates

Jul 30, 2021  · Greg Abbott issued the order Thursday, two days after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended indoor mask mandates. Getty Images Texas Gov. Greg

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott bans any COVID-19 vaccine mandates ...

Oct 11, 2021  · Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Monday issued another executive order cracking down on COVID-19 vaccine mandates — this time banning any entity in Texas, including

So Abbott did whatever he could to cause a proliferation of the spread of the virus, and now he wants help to fight it?  Biden should make such help conditional on Abbott REVERSING what he did.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.3.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.3    3 years ago

Yep, Abutt consistently opposed any COVID preventatives (mask mandates and vaccine mandates) so now he wants Biden to bail him out with COVID treatments.

You said:

Biden should make such help conditional on Abbott REVERSING what he did.

I agree completely.

 
 
 
epistte
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1.3.2  epistte  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.3.1    3 years ago

Abbott must be forced to admit publically that his stance on makes and other Covid19 measures was driven by partisanship and not medical science.  Then he gets help after he admits that.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.3.1    3 years ago

Isn't there a saying about an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @1.3.2    3 years ago

I say turn the other cheek and give him what he wants. There are some good people in TX like our Sister Mary Agnes

 
 
 
Krishna
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2  seeder  Krishna    3 years ago

"Detecting COVID-19 and preventing COVID-related hospitalizations are critical to our fight against this virus," said Abbott in a prepared statement. "Testing sites, additional medical staff, and continued shipments of therapeutics from the federal government will help us continue to save lives and mitigate the spread of COVID-19."

Shipments.. from the federal government?

Whoa... wait a second!  Wouldn't that be . . .{gasp} . . .Socialism??? 

 
 
 
Krishna
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3  seeder  Krishna    3 years ago

In the last week, the number of new cases of COVID-19 has skyrocketed across the state while hospitalizations in DFW have doubled.

On Tuesday, Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas reported its patient load doubled in just four days.

Dr. Joseph Chang, chief medical officer at Parkland, said most of the COVID-19 patients ending up in the hospital are unvaccinated.

How could anyone still be unvaccinated?

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Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    3 years ago

Maybe Biden should send him some thoughts and prayers.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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4.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    3 years ago

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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4.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    3 years ago
Maybe Biden should send him some thoughts and prayers.

Nothin' but net!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.2.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.2    3 years ago

Is this tennis?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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4.2.2  al Jizzerror  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @4.2.1    3 years ago
Is this tennis?

It's B-ball

Hal A. Lujah  just hit a shot from half court.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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4.2.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  al Jizzerror @4.2.2    3 years ago
Hal A. Lujah  just hit a shot from half court.

At the very least!

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5  Ronin2    3 years ago

So what?

If Biden is truly the uniter the left claims he is he should offer federal assistance no questions asked.

No one is holding their breath that Biden will come through.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1  devangelical  replied to  Ronin2 @5    3 years ago

hold any federal assistance until texas leads the nation in vaccinated population. give anti-vaxer nuts 2 clear choices, succumb to the vaccine or the virus.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.1  GregTx  replied to  devangelical @5.1    3 years ago

There are more residents of Texas fully vaccinated than any other state except California.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.2  devangelical  replied to  GregTx @5.1.1    3 years ago

cite your proof. alt-media sources disallowed.

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.4  Dulay  replied to  GregTx @5.1.1    3 years ago

Well gee Greg, since TX is the second largest state by population, that would hardly be a laudable achievement. 

As a percentage of their population, TX is WAY behind the curve. Of the states with the top 10 populations, only GA and OH have lower percentages than TX. Gee, I wonder what those 3 states have in common? 

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.5  Kavika   replied to  Dulay @5.1.4    3 years ago

As of December 30th, 2021 Texas ranks 30th in per cent of population fully vaccinated. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5.1.5    3 years ago

meh, I knew his statement was bullshit.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.7  GregTx  replied to  Dulay @5.1.4    3 years ago

Well gee Dulay, I didn't claim they were leading in percent. I claimed there were more residents fully vaccinated than other states except Ca. I think it's getting better as far as people getting the vaccine and boosters, around my parts anyway. And yes, I think it's laudable that we have as many vaccinated as we do.

Gee, I wonder what those 3 states have in common? 

What?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @5.1.5    3 years ago

The only shots most Texans want is at their local bars.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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5.1.9  SteevieGee  replied to  GregTx @5.1.1    3 years ago
There are more residents of Texas fully vaccinated than any other state except California.

There are also more residents of Texas not vaccinated than any other state except California.  Fun with numbers!

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.10  Dulay  replied to  GregTx @5.1.7    3 years ago
I claimed there were more residents fully vaccinated than other states except Ca.

Yes I know and I stated that stat isn't laudable based on population.

I think it's getting better as far as people getting the vaccine and boosters, around my parts anyway.

What you think isn't showing up in the stats Greg. Again, compared to the top 10 states, TX has VERY slow growth in the number of vaccines administered every month. 

And yes, I think it's laudable that we have as many vaccinated as we do.

You can think what you want but don't try to claim that Texas' vaccine rates compare well with other states. They don't. 

 

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.11  GregTx  replied to  Dulay @5.1.10    3 years ago
You can think what you want but don't try to claim that Texas' vaccine rates compare well with other states. They don't. 

I've only made one claim on this seed, which I provided a cite to as requested. No Texas' rate isn't in the top ten but it certainly seems to compare well with at least 19 other states per @ 5.1.5 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  GregTx @5.1.7    3 years ago
"There are more residents of Texas fully vaccinated than any other state except California."

LOL  I just LOVE that logic Greg, my first laugh of the morning.  And guess what, there are more people fully vaccinated in China than there are in the USA, and just like your comment, that means shit.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.13  GregTx  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.12    3 years ago

Ok, so the number of vaccinated versus unvaccinated doesn't mean shit. Perhaps then, the vaccinated should shut the fuck up?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.14  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @5.1.13    3 years ago

800

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.15  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.14    3 years ago

Just questioning the fucked up logic in this thread....

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.16  sandy-2021492  replied to  GregTx @5.1.15    3 years ago

It's not fucked up logic.

Texas has a large number of vaccinated people, because Texas has a lot of people, period.

But raw numbers don't tell the full story.

Texas also has a large number of unvaccinated people.

Texas's vaccination rate is not that good - 56% full vaccination.

Compare that to, say, Vermont, with 77% fully vaccinated.

Other states are doing better.  Other states' citizens are making better decisions regarding Covid.  Most other states haven't had governments actively courting Covid cases by disallowing or discouraging mask or vaccine mandates.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.17  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @5.1.15    3 years ago

the fucked up logic you provided?

that's ironic

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.18  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.17    3 years ago

Right, so the number of people vaccinated isn't relevant unless the number exceeds the amount of... who says again ?

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.19  GregTx  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.16    3 years ago

Yes other states are doing better and others are doing worse. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.20  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @5.1.18    3 years ago

Ok Greg, let's put it this way

The top 10 states account for 156 million citizens (exactly half not counting illegals)

There are 40 states in the Union with less than 9 million residents each, Ok?

Texas has 9 MILLION unvaccinated assholes (in my opinion) out of 29 million legal residents

Roughly 1 in 3.

That's MATH, 

you are welcome

Go Bears! finally!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.21  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  GregTx @5.1.13    3 years ago

Then maybe the unvaccinated should just continue to fulfill Ebeneezer Scrooge's opinion

"If they would rather die, they had better do it and decrease the surplus population".
 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.22  sandy-2021492  replied to  GregTx @5.1.19    3 years ago

But Texas is firmly in the bottom of the pack.  Not for lack of access - there have been plenty of vaccine doses for months now.

Texas eschews the available, free vaccine, but wants the expensive antibody treatment and test kits, both of which are available in limited supplies right now.

Now, we'll likely help Texas, even though they aren't helping themselves as much as they should, because it's the humane thing to do.  But Texas really should focus on getting people to take the cheap, widely available preventative, so they won't have as much need of expensive, harder to access treatments and test kits.

That's logic.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.23  GregTx  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.20    3 years ago

Okay Split, let's put it this way, Texas has more fully vaccinated residents than any other state than California. Finally...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.24  Split Personality  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.22    3 years ago

I keep repeating this because it's ironically relevant.

800

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.25  sandy-2021492  replied to  GregTx @5.1.23    3 years ago

And Texas has more unvaccinated people than many states have people, period.  Those raw numbers work both ways, Greg.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.26  GregTx  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.25    3 years ago

And that negates the vaccinated how?....

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.27  sandy-2021492  replied to  GregTx @5.1.26    3 years ago

It doesn't negate them, Greg.  It's additional information that paints a clearer picture of how the pandemic is being handled in Texas.  Citing only numbers of people vaccinated gives a much rosier impression than reality.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.28  Split Personality  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.27    3 years ago

I keep repeating this because it's ironically relevant.

I visit clients rarely, but when I do, I wear a Cotton Bowl lanyard with my ID on one side and my vax card on the other side.

A woman shopper, no mask, in Kroger challenged me about my vaccinations and asked me what's in it?

She had a CVS bag in the shopping cart.

I asked her what was in the bag and she was adamant that it was none of my business.

I volunteered that I had scripts for Crestor, lisinopril, and a few others and asked her if she knew the ingredients of her

prescription.

As she was turning crimson, I begged off,

But then I did ask why she trusted Bayer aspirin or Tylenol even after the Tylenol scandals years ago

and she said because the government approved them....

and....

I asked that the vaccines aren't approved??

The County lied to me 3 times???

Really?

The only thing to say to someone like this in Texass

is thank you and God Bless You.as you dismiss them.

They know what it means

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Split Personality
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5.1.29  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @5.1.26    3 years ago

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GregTx
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5.1.30  GregTx  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.27    3 years ago

That's not what's being said here Sandy. The number of vaccinated is irrelevant unless it is an appropriate ratio......

Ridiculous..

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5.1.31  sandy-2021492  replied to  GregTx @5.1.30    3 years ago

The vaccinated are not as likely to need monoclonal antibody therapy.  The unvaccinated, of which Texas has way more than its share, are more likely to need antibody therapy.

Texas needs to do better at reducing its number of unvaccinated people to avoid the need for expensive, hard-to-obtain treatments.

This is not difficult.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.32  Split Personality  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.31    3 years ago

It's also relevant that Abbott continuously outlawed mandates about masks and vaccines

constantly bucking Federal mandates

but now begs for Federal help?

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Split Personality
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5.1.33  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @5.1.30    3 years ago

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sandy-2021492
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5.1.34  sandy-2021492  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.32    3 years ago

Very relevant.

And the rest of us have certainly noticed.

It seems those "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps" folks are cutting off their own bootstraps, and asking to use everyone else's.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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5.1.36  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.8    3 years ago
The only shots most Texans want is at their local bars.

That's not entirely true.  As long as the liquor stores remain open and essential, we'll be drinking our meds in the safety of our own homes.  

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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5.1.37  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.28    3 years ago
God Bless You

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Paula Bartholomew
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5.1.38  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.21    3 years ago

Works for me.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.1.39  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.17    3 years ago

Total kettle/pot.

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1.40  cjcold  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.20    3 years ago
Go Bears! finally!

My Chiefs lost by a last second field goal to the Bengals 34-31. Damn! 

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1.41  Split Personality  replied to  cjcold @5.1.40    3 years ago

Well I meant the Baylor Bears last night, lol.

But I think the Chiefs are in good shape going into the playoffs.

My Eagles are in but won't last as long as the Chiefs will..

Butt, that's why we watch.

Cowboys lost too, time to put the Eagles flag out ! LOL!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.1.42  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  cjcold @5.1.40    3 years ago

Where you hate the outcome of the game, you at least have to admit that it was a brilliant play.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.1.43  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.14    3 years ago

My mother used to make that same face when I would mess up.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.44  Trout Giggles  replied to  GregTx @5.1.7    3 years ago

The thing is Greg a few of us here have taken a course in probability and statistics. So when you say more people in TX are fully vaxxed than CA we all ask the obvious question...what's the percentage? TX's population is second only to CA.

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1.45  seeder  Krishna  replied to  GregTx @5.1.1    3 years ago
There are more residents of Texas fully vaccinated than any other state except California.

Do you mean to say that the number of vaccinated residents of Texas (population over 29 million) is greater than the number of people vaccinated in Vermont (population  623,251)...or even Delaware (Population: 990,334)? Each having less than a million residents.

What could possibly explain why so few people in those two states have such a small number of people vaccinated...compared to Texas ((population over 29 million)?

('Tis an strange phenomenon indeed...a totally unexplainable mystery! jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif )

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.1.46  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.44    3 years ago
The thing is Greg a few of us here have taken a course in probability and statistics.

I wonder if he has...?

The first course in Statistics I took was required. I hated it-- for some reason I thought it was a waste of time...no practical use, lol! But then I realized the value...took a second one. 

Turned out to be extremely useful... use many of those concepts daily.

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.2  Dulay  replied to  Ronin2 @5    3 years ago
So what?

So it drips with hypocrisy.

Just like the hypocrisy of Sen. Paul voting against emergency aid over and over again after natural disasters everywhere in the US while immediately calling for aid for Kentucky. 

If Biden is truly the uniter the left claims he is he should offer federal assistance no questions asked.

That comment connotes that you recognize that Trump's practice of meeting out federal assistance based on loyalty to HIM was intentionally divisive. 

No one is holding their breath that Biden will come through.

That's because, unlike Trump, everyone knows that Biden doesn't deny American's assistance based on who voted for him. That FACT has been proven over and over again last year. 

It may behoove you to recognize that Governors from all over the country, of BOTH Partys, praise Biden for 'depoliticizing' the pandemic fight.

Unlike Trump, NO, GOP Governors has to bow and scrape for funding or equipment from Biden. 

Kentucky didn't vote for Biden but they didn't have to hold their breath or bow to Biden for emergency aid after the tornados last month. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.2.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Dulay @5.2    3 years ago

Biden didn't throw paper towels either.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @5.2    3 years ago

Not just hypocrisy but selfishness, also. People like this must think "Atlas Shrugged" is a how-to manual on how to get mine but fuck you and yours

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.2.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.2.1    3 years ago
Biden didn't throw paper towels either.

Didn't marry Melanoma Trump either!

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Krishna
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5.2.4  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.2.3    3 years ago
Melanoma Trump

Appropriate nickname BTW-- who was it that came up with that lately?

(Al Jizzerror IIRC?)

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.3  al Jizzerror  replied to  Ronin2 @5    3 years ago
If Biden is truly the uniter the left claims he is he should offer federal assistance no questions asked.

I understand Texas will receive a huge shipment of Ivermectin.  

Ivermectin should be a big help for a horse's ass like Gov. Abutt.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.3.1  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3    3 years ago

I think it's probably too late for the ivermectin to keep that particular ass from running.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.3.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3    3 years ago

Unlike Trump who would only help the red states, Biden will help every state if he can even if they are loyal to Trump.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.3.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3    3 years ago

Each dose comes with a Clorox chaser.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.3.2    3 years ago
Unlike Trump who would only help the red states, Biden will help every state if he can even if they are loyal to Trump.

And that's the definition of a real president

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.3.5  seeder  Krishna  replied to  devangelical @5.3.1    3 years ago
I think it's probably too late for the ivermectin to keep that particular ass from running.

Indeed!

( That ass don't hunt. .to mix a few meataphors!

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.3.6  seeder  Krishna  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.3    3 years ago
Ivermectin should be a big help for a horse's ass like Gov. Abutt.

Yup.

Ivermectin-- Join the herd!  Talk to your doctor if you think Ivermectin is right for you.

(The Lincoln Project...)

 
 
 
JBB
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6  JBB    3 years ago

Who else is sick of the gop's hypocritical bullshit?

They want all the help for their Covid and for their disasters while obstructing everyone else's help...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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7  Paula Bartholomew    3 years ago

Texans elected that clown and all of them have done little in regards to the CV.  Now Abbot wants Biden to cover his useless hide.   They can all pound sand.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1  devangelical  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7    3 years ago

abbott is 1 power grid failure from the end of his political career.

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.1.1  Dulay  replied to  devangelical @7.1    3 years ago

I don't see what makes you think that dev. It's become obvious that competence is no longer a standard used by GOP voters to decide who to elect. In fact, it looks like they want their candidates to fulfill their self-imposed prophecy that government is always the problem, never part of the solution. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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7.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Dulay @7.1.1    3 years ago

government is always the problem, never part of the solution

… until they need a solution to their problems.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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7.1.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  devangelical @7.1    3 years ago
abbott is 1 power grid failure from the end of his political career.

I'm starting to wonder if Abbott's sudden request for federal pandemic help (after not giving a shit that Texans have been suffering since the start of the pandemic), Friday's release of a 2020 presidential election audit revealing that there was no relevant election fraud in Texas (which I'm sure has Trump pissed beyond measure that Abbott would let that info be released to the public), and the sudden silence/disappearance of Abbott twin, FL Gov. Ron DeSantis (despite it being an election year for him, as well), have anything to do with each other. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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7.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  devangelical @7.1    3 years ago

He is already a french fry short of a happy meal.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7.1.3    3 years ago

there's a super secret magatard executive circle jerk at mar-a-lardo this week...

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.6    3 years ago

your wife sent me a scan of your job offer to be pivot man. congrats. don't forget the latex gloves, safety glasses, and bib this time. there's plenty in her glove box.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.8  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.1.4    3 years ago
He is already a french fry short of a happy meal.

Definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer!

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.9  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @7.1.8    3 years ago
Definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer!

About as sharp as a marble.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.10  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @7.1.9    3 years ago
About as sharp as a marble.

One might conclude that he's a few cards short of a deck.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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7.1.11  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Krishna @7.1.8    3 years ago

He can't even find the drawer.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.1.13  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.6    3 years ago
Tell me more!

Don't tell him! It's a trap!!!

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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8  SteevieGee    3 years ago

I think they should get what they need as soon as Abbott publicly apologizes for being such a shit.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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9  Paula Bartholomew    3 years ago

How about this governor?  TX gets aid when both you and Paxton resign.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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9.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @9    3 years ago

Tex, I have told you on more than one occasion that you are on ignore.  Do I have to write it out with crayon before you get the fucking hint?  Do you need a Trump pop up book to get it or what?

 
 

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