Law enforcement agents raid Mar-A-Lago, the Florida home of former President Donald Trump
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Via: hallux • 2 years ago • 344 commentsBy: Josh Meyer David Jackson Kevin Johnson USA TODAY
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Former President Donald Trump said Monday evening that law enforcement agents have raided his home at Mar-a-Lago in South Florida, in what appears to be an unprecedented escalation in one or more of the various criminal investigations into his activities.
Trump did not say why the agents appeared to be at his Florida property but, in an emailed statement, added that "this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate."
Trump is under investigation by the Justice Department for removing presidential records from the White House and storing them at Mar-a-Lago for up to a year, a potentially serious violation of the law if the records were classified. Trump has denounced that investigation, saying he was entitled to take the records.
Trump and many of his associates are also under scrutiny by the FBI, the Justice Department, the Internal Revenue Service and other federal and state agencies for alleged wrongdoing during his four-year administration and related to his various business entities.
Federal law enforcement officials had no immediate comment on whether agents were at Mar-a-Lago and if so, for what reason. Traditionally, any search would need to be authorized by a judge after finding evidence of probable cause that a crime had been committed – but there are many other circumstances in which agents might be on the property.
The Justice Department declined to comment.
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Laughter and cheering was heard emanating from the Governor's Mansion in Tallahassee.
uh oh. meh, kids today don't know who benedict arnold was. time for a treasonous upgrade in american history.
Laughter and cheering was heard emanating from the Governor's Mansion in Tallahassee."
Oh absolutely!
Trump can't win again...DeSantis most likely will..
ha ha ha, deathsantis is going under the steamroller next after the midterms.
May want read his tweets. He isn’t happy. The governor that is
I bet his ambition is ecstatic at the news.
Be sure to check the toilet.
... for an organic likeness of trump's head.
“Laughter and cheering was heard emanating from the Governor's Mansion in Tallahassee.”
And soon pissing and moaning will be emanating from the governing deniers in all corners.
I might even watch 'The Tucker Carlson Rage Against the Swamp Show' tonight.
his indignation and voice inflections will be off the charts.
His entitlement is unreal.
It is SO Bazaar , but he truly IS, and though a HAS BEEN, ridiculously entitled to along with classified documents, flush morals and ethics right OUT the White Power House he has so desecrAted, often all because he upsets intelligent peoples, while the ignorant LIE behind their Steeples, while bringin this country DOWN in so many damn weigh's and means full of committee's full of shit tease in while 'grabbin our pussies' becausethey just let him...
Wheys and curses is a dish best served steaming.
like the hot mess POS he is
This is funny. There are so many potential sources for this law enforcement raid that everyone is guessing which agency busted his ass.
I hope they found something, otherwise all they've done is tarnish an agency that doesn't seem to have much wriggle room left.
They aren’t getting shit. [deleted]
Great shit he accomplished...Hahaha
Calm down.
We’re you asleep or just jaded by your bias
Nope especially for a Canuck who has no dog in this hunt. Sorry my friend of you can’t see this for what it is.
He can.
It is hilarious watching clowns try and defend Trump. It happens like clockwork too.
So you just parrot talking points and get abusive, call people assholes...
Falling down a rabbit hole?
Some people that I thought were halfway decent are losing their minds.
You don't have to be on his seed. Nor tell him what he can and can't talk about.
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They seem to all be going nuts.
I am reasonable but this is over the fucking top unprecedented
So is taking government records. Or should he just get a pass.
Jim, are you saying that only Americans are entitled to "Speak Their Mind" on this site? If that's your feeling, then the American NT members should not be allowed to speak about anything unless it's about America.
when they've lived in denial for so long, cause they were feeling vulnerable to admit for oh so long, they've been oh so Wrong, and the walls are Finaly closing in, just breathe deep, and take it all in, as some have earned that.
No? For months I have been reading comments from the right exhorting Dems to set the dogs on Donald. Now that it appears on one level or another to have come to pass those same folks are going to bore one and all with poutrage?
Je ne suis pas Canuck, je suis une grenouille.
Proof???
Again…Jesus, Jim.
Welcome to the chaos y'all cheered for.
I didn't know you were such a die hard trumper.
Watch something other than fox news. It isn't healthy...
Don’t disagree for the most part but Donald Trump, at least right now has NO fucking affect on you or your beloved China. Nor Canada. Save your disgust for something that does. I, for one, am damned tired of Trump this and Trump that bullshit. And I’m fucking tired of Trump frankly. The fact you all want to keep beating that dead fucking horse is barely palpable.
You do realize, he is currently thde Republican Frontrunner for the office of the potUS, correct ?
A Clockwork Orange ?
Doesn't sound like you are tired of him to me...
Note - ordinarily, the quoted portion would be removed, but I am letting it stand, as it quotes the original comment before it was edited to avoid a CoC violation - sandy
Please wipe Trump's ass.
He just shit his depends.
... for fascists, white supremacists, autocrats, xtian nationalists, and maga scum insurrectionists...
take some deep breaths and then repeat the oath you took to defend the constitution from domestic enemies to yourself as many times as it takes until the rage passes...
Trump is still in the news. People (and it would seem that includes you) still praise the man. Trump is still highly influential over the GoP. His Big Lie campaign was an outrageous abuse of his office and so the subsequent focus on his misdeeds is to be expected. And if he is indicted we will see much more Trump in the news.
There really is no stopping people from talking about Trump while he is mainstream. Better get used to it because it is not going away.
another 13 weeks of bombshells >poof< there goes the midterms...
I think no matter what, the economy is going to drive the midterms.
But where I think you might have something is on the Trump-supported candidates. We might just see them taking a hit.
Bombshells, endless smoking guns, what next?
People tend to vote their wallets, Democrats would be wise to remember that, as most voters just aren't obsessed with Trump. Most of them care more about getting gas to put in their cars and putting food on their tables, something much harder for many since Biden won.
Funny thing to me is I don't see the economy as being that bad. All the doom and gloom doesn't seem to have hit here.
All business open, people buying and in stores, etc.
Though in this state they will vote red regardless.
they do have a very short window to decide on which side of the shit show they're on now. I predict trumpski will double down and announce his 2024 candidacy to try and get in front of this, and use it as the reason.
The economy will be seen as bad when it negatively affects the majority individually. Inflation is affecting everyone and the majority of Americans lack a level of discretionary funds to not feel the effects.
Yeah, I would not want to be a candidate whose political career is tied with Trump.
I just wonder if it is really that bad or if people just believe talking heads telling them that it is.
I will say the price of groceries is high.
Well, numbers don't really lie, so the highest inflation in 40 years is pretty bad.
Maybe more people would recognize it if the President was a Republican.
I am going by my little slice of the world. People are out in stores buying, people are out at restaurants, people are out at entertainment venues, etc.
For it being so bad, the people aren't really acting like it. Though they will tell you it sucks, while purchasing a tv at walmart...
And of course gasoline.
So what else need happen before the majority consider the economy bad? To me, the current high inflation is all that is needed.
Maybe you live in a more affluent area, where people are not affected by inflation as much as other economic classes surely are.
Gas prices are significantly higher than in 2020, inflation is at 40 year highs, rents are astronomical.
Wages have increased, but every bit of that increase and more has been offset by inflation.
Exactly, all this talk about income inequality and the demise of the middle class is just so much whining.
Gas has gone down some. Though Imo the price of oil has more to do with a lot of circumstances that are beyond any president or administration.
Rent has been astronomical here for years.
We use to joke that is was cheaper to buy a house as monthly payments were cheaper than a lot of apartments.
The divide between the ultra wealthy and everyone else has widened.
The good news is as inflation continues, it costs less to service our ever growing debt.
Yet the entertainment, gambling and hospitality industries are doing fine from what, only the ultra wealthy?
Thank Joe for his MBS fist bump.
I have no understanding of what you are trying to say.
It is like that still in much of the country.
I asked is it only the ultra wealthy sustaining our entertainment, gambling and hospitality industries?
I think gambling is an equal opportunity money drain.
Though you won't see the ultra wealthy at nickel slots.
Oh, so plenty of people have enough money to lose gambling.
Considering I live in a gaming town, I would have to say yes.
Good deal, Americans are flush with cash.
Biloxi sales tax, casino revenue reach record highs
See My link/copy of local article.
Indeed, thanks, flush with cash.
Not after they leave our town...Haha
please describe the general demographic you see gambling there. in our gambling towns, it's mostly pasty relics of the past riding tour buses up the mountain to gamble during the weekdays.
We run the gambit to be honest. Though the last one I went to was the Hard Rock. I think it might have a younger demographic.
Maybe for slots buts isn’t sports gambling the current growth venue?
I would think so. I'm thinking casinos that might have an early bird dinner buffet for less than $5, bingo for money, branson missouri type entertainment...
yeah, several historical firsts today, all on the 48th anniversary of nixon's resignation. I'd say it's pretty obvious that trump is under criminal investigation by the DOJ. I'll be interested in all the threats made by trump supporters tomorrow. I think I just heard the crack between the nevers/rinos and trumpsters get a lot wider.
Given how many of those "bombshells" just fizzled out, that's not a good look for the left. But you all keep on dreaming.
Gas is under $4 here now and continuing to fall.
Funny, here businesses are closing left and right.
Restaurants and fast food establishments are still cutting back hours or just shutting down days at a time due to staffing issues.
Help wanted sign everywhere.
Public schools are advertising for students for the first time in history.
Inflation is at 40 year highs
Gas prices at near record highs
Energy prices continue to rise precipitously.
Baby formula and other normal food stuffs is not readily available at grocery stores for the first time in history.
Etc, etc
So yeah, I mean what’s the big deal right?
So you are just going to ignore everything I posted and said. Even where I showed we are breaking records.
You have done nothing but say things. Hell I could say the sky is falling too yet here it obviously is not.
Care to tell me where you live? I can find out quickly if what you are saying is true.
Lol .... I’m not the one in denial but I do agree with you on one thing as I’ve noted above. We are setting records during the Biden admin. Most of them bad. Too bad you’re have trouble admitting those realities. You can see those realities again as presented in 7.1.71 and make no mistake. They are all facts, not conjecture.
And it matters not where I live. I’m quoting country wide data. Where I live is in that country. How about you?
So you have nothing. You are showing nothing.
Any links to this doom and gloom?
The only reality I see is people that love to parrot fox news without anything to back it up.
Lol ..... amazing
If you really need links on the heavily reported information I’ve noted, they won’t help you anyway.
Not a surprise that is the only reality you see. That’s how denial works.
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“…this is over the fucking top unprecedented.”
What is unprecedented is an ex-president selfishly inserting himself into every issue, in his vanity hoping to remain relevant.
Simply pathetic, and worse, to have too many play into the ploy.
So once again, nothing. If this info is so readily available, it shouldn't be that hard for you.
So I will stick with my notion that you cannot back up your claims.
The insults just add to my conclusion.
You are correct.
You stick with whatever you want. At this point your opinion and conclusions are absolutely worthless.
SOSDD
What is not meaningless if for now on myself and everyone else will know you cannot back up your own claims.
My posts speak for themselves. Your comments continue to be worthless.
Yes your post do speak for you. Fact free.
Yes the trend is good. But for people whose income level is affected by the price of gas, they will still see it as high.
Basically my point is that the public will determine if the economy is good or bad. It is a perception thing. In a period where we have extraordinary inflation, the public will interpret this as a bad economy. And, as such, they will (because that is how politics seems to work) blame the party in control and the PotUS.
I'll not disagree that many things, including the state of the economy are perceptual. We can't even get the experts to agree on where things are going.
Then perhaps the incumbent party may also get some praise rather than blame?
Shifting perceptions is what political elections are all about. I wish people as a whole were smarter.
I doubt it. I think the electorate will not change its binary determination (good vs. bad) until inflation gets closer to where it was ~ 5-6% (vs. 9+%). After the midterms there is time for people to acclimate to a higher level of inflation (say 6-7%) and then I can see the economy issue lessening. That said, perception is often tough to reverse ... even if the facts suggest the perception is misguided.
Same here - it was $4.06 when I gassed up Monday and now it's $3.89.
"What is not meaningless if for now on myself and everyone else will know you cannot back up your own claims."
We've always known that.
How's Cripple Creek doing these days?
who cares. I only go to central city for the prime rib and crab buffets on thanksgiving and easter.
^^^ Michael Rapaport, too funny
Haha. He was actually crying? republicans are insane...
trump's ship is soon going to look like a rat diving competition.
There's no crying in politics...
LoL!
we should start a pool on which of his 3 older kids will cut a deal and roll over on him first.
Wanna bet?
but, but, but whataboutisms seem a little too thin to cover your hero now...
There was no whataboutisms in my post.
What did YOU look at?
Also, since you seem grossly misinformed, know that I have no heroes.
Hope that clears up most of your misconceptions.
Captain meme strikes again, bang, pow, zoom!
I guess it would actually mean something if it were factual and not a wish list based on hurt feelings.
Wow! Soviet style tactics. The Dems have have gone over the edge
I don't think the American people are going to look kindly upon this Gestapo fishing expedition action by the Dems
This unnecessary media event has set a very dangerous and frightening precedent.
If this was Soviet style tactics, Donald would have taken some forced window skydiving lessons.
Yes !!! Defenestration (no matter how heavy the lift)
anything over the 4th floor would leave a pretty big mess on the sidewalk.
None of those ^^^ words apply.
"Soviet style tactics"
How else to deal with a "soviet style" ex Potus ?
yeah, like a sliver of hope for justice over the actions of a treasonous president.
The Democrats have been on fishing expeditions since 2015.
I read that they broke open his safe. What do they expect to find? He's got to be a bigger idiot than even Alfred E Neuman if he hasn't already burned or flushed anything that could incriminate him. But if he didn't - What, Him Worry?
gee, maybe he was still trying to catch up on the classified report reading from his term...
He's shown that he is a bigger idiot over and over and over.
There is a cherry to put on top if this sundae.
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
i read that earlier, and as it seems pretty evident to be a fact, as 15 boxes or so were already confiscated frpm Mar Largo, shouldn't that basically be enough to keep this CRIMINAL from running again.../
why throw rocks at him one at a time when you can stand him up in front of the oncoming gravel truck.
bwah ha ha ha ha, lock him up, he's a flight risk...
It’s kinda like ripping that tag off of a mattress.
No, it's nothing like that.
The orderly process of justice is occurring, so, of course, the trumpists are freaking out.
Kevin McCarthy, who has spent his entire benighted political career engaged in weaponized politicization without regard to facts or reality, is now issuing threats against Merrick Garland.
I hate to repeat myself but...They are insane. He is basically threatening law enforcement and wanting to just let what trump has done skate by with no consequences.
Could you imagine the outrage from these assholes if Obama had taken classified records back to Chicago with him...
Can you imagine if Obama stored classified records on a personal email system to avoid record keeping duties and then destroyed them when they were subpoenaed by Congress?
That would have been the biggest scandal of all time!
can you imagine no man being above the law in america?
I don't remember that and can't find anything on it.
Yes.
Email and Benghazi!
Hillary could have emailed Benghazi on Fifth Avenue and her supporters would have still supported her. Her personal attorney could have been imprisoned for paying hush money to a porn star and they would have just referred to her as "Individual #1". Hillary could have repaid part of the hush money from her charity and they would have just looked the other way. Hillary could even have withheld military aid (to get dirt on a political opponent) from Ukraine without getting prosecuted.
Can you imagine people repeating the same old debunked bullshit, ad nauseam, year after year?
It's never been debunked...simply swept under the rug
You mean like that collusion with Russia thing? That kind of debunked bullshit?
Oh, but it has Greg.
The first fact to debunk it is the subpoena itself. It does NOT mandate that she turn over ALL emails on her server, only those related to the Benghazi attack. EVERY investigation into the issue, including Gowdy's, found NOT violations.
No.
Sure, but I grew up around Chicago Democrats and then saw a President worshipped by his party for committing perjury.
But please tell us how you support "no man being above the law in America" (unless of course, he or she is a Democrat)
Can you imagine posters on this site not making things up?
You need to look up the meaning of the word debunk. You aren't using it correctly.
Nope, I'm good.
How so?
So what violations was Comey talking about...that a "reasonable" prosecutor wouldn't pursue?
You know....all the classified ones....on an unsecured server.
I hope they talked to the plumber.
Photos show handwritten notes that Trump apparently ripped up and attempted to flush down toilet
Why would Trump destroy documents and try to flush them down the toilet?
If he had something to hide.
Why would Trump abscond with boxes of classified documents?
To sell them.
bottom line is that POS is fucked.
I hope so. He seems to be able to get away with everything.
He's going down.
hopefully by a few from "shit hole Countries", and a few more Rednecks from his base
What shit hole countries are you watching?
it wasn't a raid, those FBI guys were just peaceful tourists...
If the agents can stay through tomorrow night, they can enjoy a dinner buffet consisting of an appetizer table, two pound lobsters, freshly grilled fish and meat items, salads and a dessert bar, accompanied by a saxophonist under the stars.
The FBI heads are not stupid. They would not have issued a raid on Trumps' Mar-A-Lago home if they did not have sufficient cause to warrant it.
There is no reason to think that, expecting the kind of GOP outrage that we now see, they would engage in such a raid without cause to justify it.
The Trump Cult is just afraid that their cult leader will wind up in jail and be disqualified to run for President, or for any other office, ever again.
Trumps own actions are the cause for what he now faces for more than just one issue.
JMOO
And the Democrats and liberals have been searching for ANYTHING to do just that. And they've failed every time.
And republicans worship his slimy ass...
And what does that have to do with my statement?
Seems you are trying to defend donald. so...
Again, what does that have to do with my statement?
Are you here to defend donald? Seems like it to be by blaming the FBI.
Seems your comprehension skills are sorely lacking.
So saying the FBI is embarrassing themselves is not blaming them. Just calling them names I guess.
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So with that comment I will stick with my original assertion.
Stick with your original uninformed opinion. No skin off my ass.
I will stick with my opinion over unfounded accusations.
As president, Trump apparently had the power to declassify the documents he kept
Ex-Presidents do not have the power to declassify documents after he leaves office and per the Presidential Records Act (PRA) all Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office. The determination between private and Presidential records must be done through the Archivist in writing before a President leaves office.
I'm not going to speculate on what was in those boxes the FBI pulled yesterday, but they had to know that if they didn't cross all the Ts and dot all the Is they would be in deep shit.
Exactly! They exercised the authority that allows them to legally raid Donald's home. That Donald and his rabid followers, both obviously totally ignorant of said law, are trying to blame the FBI of acting illegally.
I venture to say that if the same had happened to Obama after he left office, Donald and his ignorant GOP followers would be cheering the FBI for doing what they are legally permitted to do.
It would seem that no one was holding a gun to Donald's heads when he illegally took those documents and records to his home instead of giving them to the Archivists, as is the law, when he left office.
The law is there and is to be obeyed. So, once again, it is Donald's own actions that has lead to his home being raided by the FBI. He alone is to blame for what has resulted from his own decision to disobey the law.
“…are trying to blame the FBI of acting illegally.”
While in the same breath castigating Griner for daring to break Russian laws.
These feckless folks are simply shameless.
Absolutely true. While they think they have the American people by the throat, history will not treat them, or their actions, kindly.
Both their political ignorance and racial hatred will come back to destroy their own party.
“…political ignorance and racial hatred…”
The epitaph of this wretched iteration of today’s ‘america first’ gop.
The cannibalism has already begun…
As was bound to happen. And we also now see Trump throwing more of his once dedicated followers under the bus to try and save himself. Which was also bound to happen at some point. We see some of his politicians now trying to salvage their own political lives by steering clear of Trump, yet, still adhering to his same policies that will ultimately throw a good many middle-class Americans under the bus as well. It is the "It's all about me" attitude of the GOP now, and it is bound to backfire not only on them, but, the GOP as well.
Alex Jones' wife said she is 'unaware' and 'upset' her husband sent a nude photo of her to Roger Stone
Alex Jones' legal team accidentally sent a trove of personal text messages to opposing counsel in a defamation case.
Among the texts was a nude photo of Jones' wife that he sent to Roger Stone, the plaintiff's attorney said.
Erika Wulff-Jones told Insider she wasn't aware of the exchange and was upset about the disclosure.
bwah ha ha, another lawsuit...
When I heard about intimate emails between him and Roger Stone I was wondering what that was all about.
I wonder if he sent nude photos of himself to Stone also?
any picture of jones is a dick pic.
The MAGA 'army' crossing the Rubicon
the blood thirsty rhetoric coming out of the alt-right forums is hilarious...
boo hoo hoo ...
He is such a whiny little bitch!
inflation mustn't be so bad if all those fixed income relics have money for maga hats and traitor flags.
Yeah, Biden's Administration must be exaggerating the horrible inflation numbers in order to bolster Democrats' chances in November, those sneaky bastards, claiming it is the highest in 40 YEARS!
I see a degree of madness has infected the seed and even so it is a poor excuse to lock 128 comments. The entire world is mad and America more so than any other country ... perhaps it is America that needs to be locked. Sheesh!
exceptional american = every american that isn't a trump supporter after 1/6/21.
After hearing the news of the raid this morning, this seed has gone exactly how I thought it would go. The partisans are in full force supporting their sides and believing they are correct in their assessments of what has happened, why it happened and what the outcome will be. The comments and replies are so predictable that it's become boring.
"Raid" is the wrong word, Donald's lawyers and security team were all informed well before the FBI politely knocked on the door.
his secret service detail was given a 3 hour heads up on the warrant being served, due to their previously scheduled tag team with melania.
I believe this 'seed' has run its course ... let's see if I can plant it.