U.S. Supreme Court spurns Trump bid to keep Capitol attack records secret | Reuters

  
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By:   Lawrence Hurley (Reuters)

U.S. Supreme Court spurns Trump bid to keep Capitol attack records secret | Reuters
The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected former President Donald Trump's request to block the release of White House records sought by the Democratic-led congressional panel investigating last year's deadly attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters.

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By Lawrence Hurley4 minute read1/3 U.S. President Donald Trump looks on at the end of his speech during a rally to contest the certification of the 2020 U.S. presidential election results by the U.S. Congress, in Washington, U.S, January 6, 2021. REUTERS/Jim Bourg/File Photo Read More Register now for FREE unlimited access to Reuters.com Register WASHINGTON, Jan 19 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected former President Donald Trump's request to block the release of White House records sought by the Democratic-led congressional panel investigating last year's deadly attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters. The decision means the documents, held by a federal agency that stores government and historical records, can be disclosed even as litigation over the matter continues in lower courts. Only one of the court's nine members, conservative Justice Clarence Thomas, publicly noted disagreement with the decision. Trump's request to the justices came after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit on Dec. 9 ruled that the businessman-turned-politician had no basis to challenge President Joe Biden's decision to allow the records to be handed over to the House of Representatives select committee. Trump and his allies have waged an ongoing legal battle with the committee seeking to block access to documents and witnesses. Trump has sought


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Kavika
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1  seeder  Kavika     4 months ago

Trolling, taunting, and off-topic comments may be removed at the discretion of group mods. NT members that vote up their own comments or continue to disrupt the conversation risk having all of their comments deleted. please remember to quote the person(s) to whom you are replying to preserve the continuity of this seed.

A decision that Trump is not going to be happy with.

 
 
 
TOM PA
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1.1  TOM PA  replied to  Kavika @1    4 months ago

Three things that can not remain long hidden, the sun, the moon and the truth.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  TOM PA @1.1    4 months ago

I'm looking forward to hearing the contents of the WH records on this.

 
 
 
TOM PA
Freshman Silent
1.1.2  TOM PA  replied to  Kavika @1.1.1    4 months ago

Not just the records but the tapes that were made that his aids rejected.  

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.1.3  seeder  Kavika   replied to  TOM PA @1.1.2    4 months ago

Yes, exactly.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @1    4 months ago

Is it really so difficult to post the entire seed rather than post this....

"Trump and his allies  have waged an ongoing legal battle with the committee seeking to block access to documents and witnesses. Trump has sought   …" more.gif?skin=ntNewsTalkers3&v=1641100924   visit seeded article for remaining content

The source for that is blocked by China, as is others I can't open, and It's frustrating as hell not being able to read the article and then waste my time seeking an alternative source.  

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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1.2.1  Nowhere Man  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    4 months ago
Is it really so difficult to post the entire seed rather than post this....

Reuters does that brother and a few other sites... yeah it's an annoyance.... I can imagine from your side a real PITA...

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.2.2  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    4 months ago

When you fetch the article that is how it comes back, Buzz. Asking what the problem is before bitching about it would seem appropriate. 

WASHINGTON, Jan 19 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected former President Donald Trump's request to block the release of White House records sought by the Democratic-led congressional panel investigating last year's deadly attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters. The decision means the documents, held by a federal agency that stores government and historical records, can be disclosed even as litigation over the matter continues in lower courts.
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Trump's request to the justices came after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit on Dec. 9   ruled   that the businessman-turned-politician had no basis to challenge President Joe Biden's decision to allow the records to be handed over to the House of Representatives select committee. Democratic Representative Bennie Thompson, the panel's chairman, and Republican Representative Liz Cheney, its vice chair, in a statement called the Supreme Court action "a victory for the rule of law and American democracy." The committee has already begun receiving some of the documents Trump had hoped to withhold, they added.
A Trump spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump and his allies have waged an ongoing legal battle with the committee seeking to block access to documents and witnesses. Trump has sought to invoke a legal principle known as executive privilege, which protects the confidentially of some internal White House communications, a stance rejected by lower courts.

The brief Supreme Court order noted that the weighty question of whether a former president can assert an executive privilege claim did not need to be answered to resolve the case.
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"Because the court of appeals concluded that President Trump's claims would have failed even if he were the incumbent, his status as a former president necessarily made no difference to the court's decision," the unsigned order said.

Only one of the court's nine members, conservative Justice Clarence Thomas, publicly noted disagreement with the decision.

The House committee has said it needs the records to understand any role Trump may have played in fomenting the violence that unfolded on Jan. 6, 2021. His supporters stormed the Capitol in a failed bid to prevent Congress from formally certifying Biden's 2020 presidential election victory over Trump.

The committee has asked the National Archives, which holds Trump's White House records, to produce visitor logs, phone records and written communications between his advisers.

Biden, who took office two weeks after the riot, has determined that the records, which belong to the executive branch, should not be subject to executive privilege and that turning them over to Congress was in the best interests of the nation. Trump has argued that he can invoke executive privilege based on the fact he was president at the time even though he is no longer in office.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan on Nov. 9 rejected Trump's arguments, saying he had not acknowledged the "deference owed" to Biden's determination that the committee could access the records and adding: "Presidents are not kings, and Plaintiff is not President."

The select committee   is comprised   of seven Democrats and two Republicans. The Supreme Court's 6-3 conservative majority includes three justices appointed by Trump, but it has not always been receptive to his requests.

The court last year   rejected   his request to block disclosure of his tax records as part of a criminal investigation in New York and also turned away attempts by Trump and his allies to   overturn   the 2020 election.

Shortly before the riot, Trump repeated to a crowd of his supporters his false claim that the 2020 election was stolen from him through widespread voting fraud, telling them to go to the Capitol and "fight like hell" to "stop the steal."
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @1.2.2    4 months ago

Thank you, Kavika.  I've been faced with the same thing on many of the articles I post, Kavika, but I open the articles and copy and post the whole thing on NT.. Sorry it's so much trouble for others, after all, I'm probably the only member on this site who has a problem with it, 

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.4  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2    4 months ago

Geez Buzz, then DON'T waste your time. 

Your practice of critiquing members for how they post seeds is tiresome. 

Why chastise? Sheesh. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2.3    4 months ago

The reason Fetch works this way is because Reuters contacted Perrie and demanded that NT not copy its content.   What Fetch is doing is that which Reuters allows.

 
 
 
Kavika
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1.2.6  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Kavika @1.2.2    4 months ago

Ok everyone lets get back on the tropic of the article.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.7  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.5    4 months ago

I don't think anyone except you and Perrie were aware of that.  If so, I will be careful if I should in future post a Reuters story, and continue to seek elsewhere for the continuation of such articles to conclusion. 

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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1.2.8  Steve Ott  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2.3    4 months ago

Judas Priest, and I thought I was a grumpy old man.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.2.9  al Jizzerror  replied to  Kavika @1.2.2    4 months ago

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Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.10  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Steve Ott @1.2.8    4 months ago

  Which avatar should I use?                             636066089277459963-Grumpy-Cat.jpg?width=3200&height=1808&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp

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Tessylo
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1.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2.10    4 months ago

Try this one Buzz -

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That's how I picture another poster actually.

We all have out peeves.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.2.13  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.11    4 months ago

LOL.   That's a really mean guy.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.2.13    4 months ago

Well, I adore cats but that cartoon that Tessy posted is me in about 4-5 years

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.15  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.14    4 months ago

Never TG, never!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.15    4 months ago

I'm not  a fan of children

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @1    4 months ago

But, but, but, I thought whatshisname and his criminal enterprise of an administration were above the law.  

 
 
 
Ender
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2  Ender    4 months ago

They also said the mandates on healthcare workers could stand yet the mandates on business they denied.

tucker called Kavanaugh a Liberal.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Ender @2    4 months ago

I wonder what little Tucker will have to say about this 7 to 1 decision. 

His bowtie will be spinning and he may start levitating.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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3  Steve Ott    4 months ago

"If a President does it, it isn't illegal." Tricky Dick. Didn't work out so well for him either, though he did escape prison.

I was surprised the SC acted so quickly.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Steve Ott @3    4 months ago
I was surprised the SC acted so quickly.

The lower court set the ground rules and it seems that SCOTUS agreed.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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3.1.1  Steve Ott  replied to  Kavika @3.1    4 months ago
The lower court set the ground rules

True, but this SC is a little more difficult to read, except Thomas. He will always side on the most extreme right view of just about anything. I agree with him occasionally, but it is a rare occasion

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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3.1.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Steve Ott @3.1.1    4 months ago

Thomas votes the way his wife tells him. She is a GOP extremist, and Thomas would never dream of going against what his wife thinks is right. That is how it works with Thomas, and has since the day he was sworn in to the SC.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2  Ender  replied to  Steve Ott @3    4 months ago

There are some that think the office should be protected over anything, including illegal activity.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.2.1  JBB  replied to  Ender @3.2    4 months ago

But, only if they are in the gop. If not, no way...

 
 
 
Steve Ott
Professor Quiet
3.2.2  Steve Ott  replied to  Ender @3.2    4 months ago

That is normally a very convenient argument at the time. It is not the general consensus among constitutional attorneys.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @3.2    4 months ago

I don't think any POTUS is above the law and I got super pissed at Clinton when he kept lying thru his teeth about Monica and then had the audacity to go on live TV and blame everything on Ken Starr. Ken Starr didn't force Monica to polish Clinton's knob

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.4  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.3    4 months ago

I knew he was a liar when he said he never inhaled....

 
 
 
cobaltblue
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3.2.5  cobaltblue  replied to  Ender @3.2    4 months ago
There are some that think the office should be protected over anything, including illegal activity.

I believe that's the only reason whatshisname [thank you, Tessy] would run again. The Constitution states a sitting president can be removed from office for high crimes and misdemeanors by impeachment process, but I don't believe the SC has ever addressed whether a sitting president can be criminally prosecuted. He doesn't give a shit about his constituents [his 'foundation' has raised enough funds to pay the legal expenses for close to 200 of his cult members], he doesn't give a shit about the country, and he's a global political joke. While he's probably afraid to lose again, staying out of jail is a bigger draw for him. He's about to sell his kids down the river. The wheels of justice turn so slowly, it gives me heartburn. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.2.6  devangelical  replied to  cobaltblue @3.2.5    4 months ago

the mango maniac has the highest priced criminal minds in law defending him.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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3.3  Nowhere Man  replied to  Steve Ott @3    4 months ago
I was surprised the SC acted so quickly.

Doesn't me, and I agree with them, I'm surprised it wasn't unanimous....

No one is above the law even a sitting president.... (although a sitting president does have a lot of exceptions in his official capacity as president, still, he isn't above the law)

Personally, I think we have a good Supreme Court...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Nowhere Man @3.3    4 months ago

I'm beginning to develop a little more respect for the SCOTUS.  Now let's see how they handle Roe v Wade and voting rights.  

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
Junior Expert
3.3.2  Nowhere Man  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.3.1    4 months ago

I think they will handle it intelligently and dispassionately and bring the US into line with the rest of the worlds position on it.... There are people on both sides that are going to be unhappy no matter what and offer hyperbolic emotional reactions... 

But I think the decision will be well thought out and concise... and best of all make sound legal sense...

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4  Dulay    4 months ago

From the first day that Trump took office, I told my wife that I wish I was paid to fix the holes that Trump would be putting in the walls of the WH. Overtime galore! 

Once the smoke clears, the team at Mar-a-Lago are going to be busy this winter...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dulay @4    4 months ago

I wish I had stock in the spackle company for those repairs

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1    4 months ago

Trump will try to use illegal Eastern European labor.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @4.1.1    4 months ago

He's going to import more nude "models"????

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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4.1.3  al Jizzerror  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.2    4 months ago

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Gsquared
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6  Gsquared    4 months ago

SCOTUS told Trump to pound sand.  Good deal.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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7  al Jizzerror    4 months ago

The Donald thought he owned SCOTUS.

As Dulay said, Trump is probably going ballistic.

I can't wait until his children flip.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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7.1  Raven Wing  replied to  al Jizzerror @7    4 months ago
I can't wait until his children flip.

Same here.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7.1.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Raven Wing @7.1    4 months ago

Ha, that will be interesting to see. Kinda like Comedy Central.

 
 
 
devangelical
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7.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @7.1.1    4 months ago

trump family values.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
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7.1.3  cobaltblue  replied to  devangelical @7.1.2    4 months ago
rump family values

256

 
 
 
cobaltblue
Sophomore Participates
7.2  cobaltblue  replied to  al Jizzerror @7    4 months ago
The Donald thought he owned SCOTUS.

Seems SCOTUS owned him. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
7.2.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  cobaltblue @7.2    4 months ago

The moosh noosh is shocked, so shocked that all he would say was covfefe.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
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7.3  cobaltblue  replied to  al Jizzerror @7    4 months ago
can't wait until his children flip.

He'd flip on his kids in a NY minute. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
8  seeder  Kavika     4 months ago

I would think that Trump is apoplectic about now. ''His'' Supreme Court turned against him in his mind. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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8.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @8    4 months ago
His'' Supreme Court turned against him in his mind. 

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Kavika
Professor Principal
8.1.1  seeder  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1    4 months ago

MY SCOTUS DID WHAT!!!!

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devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @8    4 months ago

gee, I guess trump's SCOTUS employees forgot to return their loyalty pledges and non-disclosure agreements.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
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8.2.1  cobaltblue  replied to  devangelical @8.2    4 months ago
trump's SCOTUS employees forgot to return their loyalty pledges and non-disclosure agreements.

Those with nothing to hide, hide nothing. 

 
 

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