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The cause of Education

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  4 years ago  •  80 comments


The cause of Education
''the greatest threat to religious liberty in America today'' is ''the increasingly militant and extreme secular-progressive climate of our state-run educational system.''

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This past Friday, former Attorney General Bill Barr addressed the alarming state of affairs in America's school system. He condemned what he referred to as the "secular progressive orthodoxy through government-run schools." I think that we can all admit that it was never a good idea to allow the American left to run our schools. It's been going on in our universities since the late sixties, but now it has infected our elementary school system.

The former attorney general warned the American people: ''Religious liberty is not safe in the United States as long as we have the kind of public school system we have, the forced monopoly and the indoctrination of children into these radical secular progressive orthodoxies.''

Beyond the obvious war on religious values, which has been going on for decades, Barr also took aim at the more insidious teaching of critical race theory, which is being pursued by the radical left and their allies in the Teacher's Union and the Biden administration. He defined critical race theory as nothing more than: "Marxism substituting race for class antagonism,'' and added, "it’s monstrous of the state to indoctrinate students into alternate belief systems.''



The good news, at least in the case of elementary schools, is that parents are standing up and we are told they may even be organizing a resistance.

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Carol Miller Swain is a retired professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University.
A frequent television analyst, she is the author and editor of several books. 


CAROL SWAIN: "I can tell you that across the country people are pushing back. Parents are organizing, and they should be. And I would encourage whistleblowers to step forward with your information because what is taking place is very dangerous. It is creating a hostile environment for students, as well as teachers and administrators and I know from firsthand experience that if you are in an environment that feels hostile, you cannot be your best self.
And what they are doing with the critical race theory is pure indoctrination. It’s not teaching young people how to think. In fact, it’s teaching the opposite because if they have questions...and the questions are not politically correct, then they risk getting themselves into trouble. 

And teaching young children to hate themselves and their ancestry because of the color of their skin, I mean, that is not something we should be doing in America. We should not be shaming children or bullying them. We should not be creating, intimidating environments; we are doing that under the guise of educational equity and it’s very harmful to minority children because it teaches them that they’re victims. And it also breaks up relationships that they have. The critical race theory will come into environments where there are no serious problems and when they get there, they create problems."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/parents-organizing-across-us-against-dangerous-critical-race-theory-in-classrooms-former-professor


As parents, we are the last defense for our children. Stand up for them and our nation!


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

"We are the last defense of our children"

"It was put on by the group Moms for Liberty at the Factory in Franklin Wednesday. The tag line of the event was "Time for parents to go to school on the battle for their children in Williamson County."

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3  Gordy327    4 years ago

Just more fear mongering nonsense from an obviously biased source. There is no threat to religious liberty and no one has been able to demonstrate otherwise! It's safer to say that religion is more of a threat to liberty.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gordy327 @3    4 years ago
It's safer to say that religion is more of a threat to liberty.

Who did you say the biased source was?


 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    4 years ago

The source of the article.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.1    4 years ago

Me?  No I think you need to look in the mirror. Your friend should join you.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.4  Gordy327  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.2    4 years ago

I didn't say it was you. But resorting to transparent ad him attacks doesn't help your argument or credibility. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.4    4 years ago

Once again, that's on you. Why not take on the argument being made. Do you see how JR did it?

He questions that it's even being taught!!!!!!! Go get some more evidence he tells us.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.5    4 years ago

There's no argument being made. Only fear mongering, finger pointing BS!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.6    4 years ago

The argument is that school children are being indoctrinated rather than being educated. I say the point was well taken and thus far nobody can lay a glove on it. Then again, I assume that neither you nor JR would mind very much if school children were clearly being taught critical race theory.

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.8  Ender  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.6    4 years ago

It is BS.

Oh no, vote republican because them dern Liberals are brainwashing our chilrens...

Complete bullshit.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.9  Gordy327  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.7    4 years ago

That's no argument. That's just a BS claim. Nothing more to it than that.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  Ender @3.1.8    4 years ago

I know, right?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.9    4 years ago

Calling it BS doesn't cut it. You need to disprove what so many parents are painfully aware of.

 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.11    4 years ago

No, they need to prove their case! Especially if they're making the claims. Simply saying so doesn't cut it, especially if it's only personal opinion. If anyone claims their kids are being "brainwashed," which is outright laughable to begin with, then let's see them prove it! 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.12    4 years ago

The evidence is everywhere. The Biden administration is in favor of it as well.




How about getting it right from the horses mouth - a teacher:

"I worked with kids from ages 3 to 13 and saw the brainwashing that exists at all levels of education. The left uses a combination of propaganda and suppression to push kids into the ensnaring grip of socialism and anti-patriotism.

First is the propaganda. Teachers will assign work instilling the idea that the pillars of Western civilization were evil, and their memories deserve to be thrown in the trash.

Here’s an example. I was helping one of my elementary school students with a homework assignment about listing famous Britons throughout history. She already had some of the more obvious ones: Shakespeare, Princess Diana, Queen Elizabeth.

“Well, how about Winston Churchill?” I recommended.

“Oh no, not him,” she replied. “He was a racist and didn’t think women should have rights. He wasn’t a good guy.”

I was floored. It clearly wasn’t something she came up with on her own. She was just regurgitating propaganda her teacher had taught her. All sense of nuance and critical thinking about the man who saved Europe from the Nazis was gone. Churchill committed “wrongthink,” so in the bin he goes.

Another way the left propagandizes is through the normalization of its views and positions as nonpolitical.

The Black Lives Matter organization is a prime example of this. Many of my colleagues wore Black Lives Matter pins and apparel to school in blatant violation of school rules forbidding political statements on clothing.

When I asked for a justification of the behavior, I was told it wasn’t political to support the group, it was a matter of human rights. The children would see these pins and clothes and connect radical leftist groups with basic human dignity. “How dare you question Black Lives Matter? I was taught this is a matter of human rights!”

But it isn’t just a matter of actively teaching that America and the West are evil. Suppression of “wrongthink” is equally as important to the brainwashing process. The lessons I was allowed to teach also were censored.

I was preparing a lesson on Thanksgiving involving Pilgrims and American Indians, with an activity centered on making paper teepees for arts and crafts. Cue the progressive panic.

Other teachers at the school were incensed that a non-Indian was “appropriating” Native American culture for an activity. Of course, these teachers weren’t Indians either, they just wanted to virtue signal.

The whole thing culminated in a hilarious incident where my colleagues tracked down the one teacher on staff who was one-sixty-fourths Native American and asked her if it was cultural appropriation. In her esteemed authority, it most certainly was. The school administrators pulled me aside and promptly nixed the project.

The suppression extends to American religious values as well. I would try to engage my students with folk stories from around the globe to teach them world history and other cultures.

Story time went on without a hitch until I decided to tell stories from the Bible. Other teachers began to complain I was preaching Christian values to the children and attempting to convert them.

Keep in mind, this wasn’t a problem when I was sharing stories from other ancient cultures throughout history. Stories about ancient India and China were fine and encouraged as “sharing unheard voices.” After sharing the story of the Tower of Babel, I was told to switch back to non-Christian stories or face consequences.

The young adults who today gleefully tear down statues of the Founding Fathers were incubated in our very own schools, groomed to burst from the education system and burn America down.

The left argues the great men and women who built this nation are problematic and must be destroyed. Conservatives must demand an end to the indoctrination of our youth or face a new American public taught since childhood that the country shouldn’t exist."


 
 
 
Gordy327
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3.1.14  Gordy327  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.13    4 years ago
How about getting it right from the horses mouth - a teacher:

As touted in the Dailysignal, eh? Yeah, no bias there! >sarc<

Like I said in the beginning, it's just fear mongering which some apparently buy right into, hook, line, and sinker!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gordy327 @3.1.14    4 years ago

You asked for proof that is overwhelming. You got it and you claimed bias.  So, you came here with nothing but a lot of smear tactics?

You are now on IGNORE.


 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.16  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.15    4 years ago
u asked for proof that is overwhelming. You got it and you claimed bias

All you get in response are logical fallacies. It's a pattern.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.16    4 years ago

I really don't know why they bother.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.13    4 years ago
Douglas Blair is a contributor to the Daily Signal and a graduate of Heritage's Young Leaders Program.

Do you actually expect people to take that seriously? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.19  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.13    4 years ago

So, the same teacher has stories about Winston Churchill, Black Lives Matter, Thanksgiving, American Indians, China, antiChristian bigotry and the Founding fathers.  

Kind of a who's who -what's what of conservative grievance. 

Sure Vic, sure. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.18    4 years ago

I expect people to take legitimate points of view and questions seriously regardless of origin.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    4 years ago
He defined critical race theory as nothing more than:"Marxism substituting race for class antagonism,''and added,"it’s monstrous of the state to indoctrinate students into alternate belief systems.''

Critical race theory began as a legal strategy. Defense lawyers who accepted CRT were interested in getting "jury nullification" for black defendants in certain cases. CRT was the intellectual justification for jury nullification.  CRT existed in academic circles for almost 40 years before the present day right revived it as a whipping boy for their retrograde approach to social justice.

I would like to see some evidence that critical race theory or "1619 Project" are actually being taught in a deleterious way to America's schoolchildren. 

CRT is effectively a boogie man. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    4 years ago

Like the other day, John, when you said MLK's vision of people being judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin would just have to wait.

I'll say it again, you seem to believe in just the opposite!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 years ago

You are right about one thing, critical race theory IS based on the theory that all whites are racist. 

Since such a statement is forever unprovable CRT will forever remain a theory.  It doesnt bother me because I am not offended by exuberance to correct historical injustices.  I dont have to agree with it, but I am not offended by it. 

At the start of 1861, virtually all of the seceding states justified their secession, in writing,  on the basis that slavery was a material good that needed to be protected and expanded. 

How many Americans were taught THAT when they were in school? 

A  few weeks ago seven of these United States celebrated Confederate Heritage Day, now, in 2021. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    4 years ago
It doesnt bother me

It doesn't seem to bother you because you are ok with indoctrinating American children with an evil theory. I am sure you would mind if we taught Ian Rand's theories to our children.


At the start of 1861, virtually all of the seceding states justified their secession, in writing,  on the basis that slavery was a material good that needed to be protected and expanded. 

And in all of the world, which saw no problem with slavery, it was Western (White) Civilization that was the first to call an end to it.


How many Americans were taught THAT when they were in school? 

I'll bet just about ALL of them. They may never have been taught the toll of the Civil War or a single battle, but everyone got taught that.


A  few weeks ago seven of these United States celebrated Confederate Heritage Day, now, in 2021. 

You should have provided a link with that one. Assigning racism to a particular race is evil, as is anyone who teaches it. That's what plagues us in 2021!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    4 years ago
Ian Rand's theories

was that Ayn Rand's husband? Son? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.2    4 years ago

You went to an elementary or high school where they taught you about the contents of the seceding states Declarations of Secession ?    Ha !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.4    4 years ago

Yes I did. We were taught correctly btw. That event was tied directly to the election of Abraham Lincoln. If he had lost there wouldn't have been secession. Did they teach you that out in the mid west?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    4 years ago
was that Ayn Rand's husband? Son? 

What?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.6    4 years ago

Who is Ian Rand?   I must have missed that one. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.7    4 years ago

Ian is not a typo for Ayn on my keyboard. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.8    4 years ago

Ayn Rand. I didn't mean to make her a man.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.7    4 years ago
he caught a typo

That's what they are down to - looking for any error whatsoever.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.7    4 years ago

No shame in not knowing who Ayn Rand was.  Sometimes I wish I didnt. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.13    4 years ago

With that he's going to claim victory now. Our children should hate themselves and activist extremists should teach them.

Have a good one John.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to    4 years ago

Some have terrible beliefs which they rather not defend.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.23  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.21    4 years ago

Don't forget - It also means that I don't know who Ayn Rand was!  Says the man who spent 4 years slandering the man he hated. They deny, they lie and they run.

And the good people get fed up and leave here.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to    4 years ago
Is that directed to Rand or to me? You may understand hers, but this is neither the time nor the place to dissect mine...

You are trolling. You picked up where the coward left off. 

Don't waste our time.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.27  author  Vic Eldred  replied to    4 years ago

You are in no position to educate anyone.  

Than an education is the last thing you desire

BTW you meant then.  Maybe we should have JR call you out on it. Too bad he ran away.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to    4 years ago

Oh now it's me?  You were playing the game that JR started.

How does it feel now?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.30  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.23    4 years ago
Says the man who spent 4 years slandering the man he hated.

Vic, I have never slandered Donald Trump. As you know, the truth is a complete defense against a slander charge. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.31  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1.25    4 years ago
You are trolling. You picked up where the coward left off. 

Are you calling me a coward Vic? lol. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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6  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

Barr needs to STFU and concentrate on what color to decorate his cell.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    4 years ago

Don't you wish you could imprison everyone you don't like?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

There's a quote from De Tocqueville concerning how precious and fragile liberty and a Republic are, and it only takes one generation to snap that chord and make it impossible to recover. 

The left seems intent to use this generation to do just that. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    4 years ago

We are more in danger of having the chord snapped by white grievance and trumpism than by 'cancel culture'.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    4 years ago

So opposing racial discrimination is a threat to democracy? You believe demonizing white kids for being born is healthy for a country? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    4 years ago
You believe demonizing white kids for being born is healthy for a country? 

I am not impressed by hysteria. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    4 years ago

And we're not impressed with denial.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.3    4 years ago

Sorry, I dont take advice from right wing extremists. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.4    4 years ago

Says our own left wing extremist!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.6  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.5    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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7.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    4 years ago

They have been well on their way since 2009 with a 4 yr. reprieve that is now over as of Jan. 20 this year.  

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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8  Trotsky's Spectre    4 years ago

''the greatest threat to religious liberty in America today'' is ''the increasingly militant and extreme secular-progressive climate of our state-run educational system.''

I read Barr's screed as a threat to public education, which the bourgeoisie wants eliminated. The ruling class will not feel 'safe' until the working class has no more education than is needed to run the machines and complete the forms. An educated population will not willingly submit to the totalitarian ambitions of Barr and company.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @8    4 years ago

Barr is exactly right!  Militant secular progressives are in fact the greatest threat to religious liberty in America.  

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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8.1.1  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.1    4 years ago

'Militant secular progressives are in fact the greatest threat to religious liberty in America.'

So you restate the premise. Now demonstrate it.

 
 
 
Dulay
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9  Dulay    4 years ago

Barr has daddy issues. His father AND mother were BOTH College educators at liberal schools. Mommy taught at Columbia University, where Barr went to college for his MA. Hell, his younger brother is a professor at a liberal college too. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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9.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @9    4 years ago

We don't care about Barr's family tree. Instead of trying to assassinate his character, why not try to address what the man is saying for a change?

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    4 years ago

I AM addressing what he is saying. 

Liberal education BAD and Barr should know since his parents earned their living, feed and clothed him doing that BAD thing. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    4 years ago

You ask for way too much.  It’s the progressive left we are dealing with…

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @9    4 years ago

This is even sillier than the "Kavanaugh would be a gangbanger because he likes sports" b.s. we saw the other day. What's  with the obsession with dimestore psychology? 

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.2.1  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @9.2    4 years ago

I thought that the tald about Kavanaugh was that he was a black out drunk that loved beer. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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9.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @9.2.1    4 years ago

No, you missed the latest theory from the Atlantic. If you like sports, you end up as a gangbanger or in a cult if you aren't on the Supreme Court. 

 
 

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