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Embracing critical theory, teacher's union says they control what kids learn

  
Via:  Vic Eldred  •  3 years ago  •  175 comments

By:   Christopher F. Rufo (New York Post)

Embracing critical theory, teacher's union says they control what kids learn
The nation's largest teachers union has approved a plan to promote critical race theory in all 50 states and 14,000 local school districts.

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The political left wants critical race theory in every school district in the nation.

The nation's largest teachers union has approved a plan to promote critical race theory in all 50 states and 14,000 local school districts.

Over the weekend, the National Education Association (NEA) held its annual Representative Assembly, with delegates from across the United States voting on priorities and allocating funding for the upcoming school year, with the ideology of critical race theory — a form of race-based Marxism — taking center stage.

The union, which represents 3 million public school employees, approved funding for three separate items related to this issue: "increasing the implementation" of "critical race theory" in K-12 curricula, promoting critical race theory in local school districts, and attacking opponents of critical race theory, including parent organizations and conservative research centers.

This is a significant reversal. For the past month, liberal pundits and activists have insisted that critical race theory is not taught in K-12 schools. This was always a bad-faith claim — critical race theory has made inroads in public schools for more than a decade — but the NEA's official endorsement is the final nail in the coffin.

In the resolution, the union agreed to publicly "convey its support" for critical race theory, oppose restrictions in state legislatures, and use schools for political activism. The delegates pledged to "join with Black Lives Matter at School and the Zinn Education Project" to hold a "national day of action" on George Floyd's birthday, recruiting teachers to hold political demonstrations and "teach lessons about structural racism and oppression."

The resolution also promised to develop a study to critique "empire, white supremacy, anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, [and] anthropocentrism" — that is, adopting the most fashionable and intellectually bankrupt ideas from the universities and bringing them into grade-school classrooms.

President Joe Biden speaking at the National Education Association Representative Assembly on July 2, 2021.EPA/Samuel Corum / POOL

Finally, the NEA passed a resolution to "research the organizations" who oppose critical race theory — including grassroots parent organizations — and provide its operatives resources for attacking them. This is dystopian: The national teachers union will use union dues, originating from taxpayers, to attack public school parents who oppose the racial indoctrination of their children.

The NEA's militant stance on critical race theory provides much-needed clarity on the issue. Progressives such as MSNBC host Joy Reid can no longer disingenuously claim that critical race theory is only taught in law schools or that it is only a "lens" for examining American history. The teachers union has nationalized critical race theory and committed to the full range of left-wing radicalism, including opposition to "capitalism" and "anthropocentrism."

Moving forward, the question is now clear: Who decides what happens in public schools? Parents, voters and state legislatures? Or the national teachers union and its allies in the public school bureaucracy?

Fortunately, the American public isn't ready to cede its authority to left-wing ideologues masquerading as educators. According to a recent YouGov survey, 58 percent of Americans oppose critical race theory, including 72 percent of independents who believe teaching it in schools is "bad for America."

The uprising that has begun in local school boards could soon turn into a national movement, with implications for the midterm elections and beyond.

There is nothing more important than what happens to our children — and, as parents are quickly realizing, critical race theory is ideological poison.



Christopher F. Rufo is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 years ago

"Now, in many places, in our country, the state of our public schools is becoming an absurdity that is scarcely to be believed." "While an astonishing number of public schools fail to produce students proficient in basic reading and math, they spare no effort or expense in their drive to instill a radical secular belief system that would have been unimaginable just a few years ago."......Bill Barr


We are at war and it will take another president to decide it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

We need to continue to make war against that vile and evil propaganda in our schools come what may.  

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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1.2  Drakkonis  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 years ago

Thanks for the info, but do you have the source material the article talks about? I went to the NEA home page but I didn't find anything about this stuff. Did read some of their stuff there and they don't seem to talk about education much. It just seems like a political activist site for progressive ideology. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    3 years ago

If you want your kids indoctrinated instead of being educated then send them to a parochial school or else home school  [removed]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @2    3 years ago

Sorry, you miss the boat on Catholic schools. They give kids a great education. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.1  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 years ago

Catholic schools educate and indoctrinate. Yes, in most case they do a better job of educating than do most religious educational institutions.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    3 years ago
Catholic schools educate and indoctrinate.

And so does the left. Maybe it's time to separate such teachers and their union from tax payer funded schools.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @2.1.1    3 years ago

Well its been a long time since I went k-12 in Catholic school, but I do know kids in the family who go to Catholic high school currently as a matter of fact. 

Catholic high schools teach religion more from a philosophical point of view than from a strict doctrinal one. At least that was my experience. 

What is it you think they indoctrinate kids with?

And religion is one class out of the many they take. 

Graduation rates and college acceptance rates in Catholic schools are considerably higher than they are in public schools. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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2.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 years ago

Rare agreement John.   Some of the best learning institutions in the USA are Jesuit schools or otherwise religion based.

Progressives hate to admit that for some reason which is interesting since most of them claim to be so intelligent.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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2.1.5  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    3 years ago

like getting rid of qualified immunity for police , get rid of tenure for teachers .

teachers only control what goes on in the class room , parents and society have a larger control over what students actually learn , CRT may or may not get taught in schools , CT ( critical thinking if left to its logical conclusion) would be its bain and downfall.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @2.1.5    3 years ago

CRT IS NOT BEING TAUGHT IN K-12

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @2.1.5    3 years ago
get rid of tenure for teachers

I'm all for it!

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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2.1.8  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.7    3 years ago

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Tessylo
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2.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @2.1.8    3 years ago

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Vic Eldred
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2.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @2.1.8    3 years ago

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Mark in Wyoming
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2.1.11  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Mark in Wyoming @2.1.8    3 years ago

( chuckles like renfield)

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.12  Tessylo  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @2.1.11    3 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.1.13  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 years ago

So do most Protestant denominations private schools. 

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.14  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 years ago

The cemeteries at the schools Catholics ran for Native American and Australian Aboriginals and unwed Irish mothers tell a very different tale...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @2.1.14    3 years ago
The cemeteries at the schools Catholics ran for Native American and Australian Aboriginals and unwed Irish mothers tell a very different tale...

separate topic

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.17  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.6    3 years ago

Really?  The two biggest teachers unions would disagree about that.  They are now openly demanding it be taught in 14000 school districts in all 50 states.  They have declared war on their students parents on this issue. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.17    3 years ago

No, they're not and no they haven't.    

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    3 years ago

Embracing critical theory, teacher’s union says they — not parents — control what kids learn

July 5, 2021   |   7:34pm   |   Updated

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Vic, do you know who Christopher Rufo is ? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 years ago
material that  'critiques empire, white supremacy, anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism, and other forms of power and oppression at the intersections of our society"

I guess Vic is not available.  Christopher Rufo is a right wing activist who has created outrage against "critical trace theory" in order to promote himself. On his twitter page he has specifically asked people to send him money so he can carry on the fight. Rufo has openly admitted that he calls anything he doesnt like about "wokeness" critical race theory in order to try and rile up his conservative audience, which would then presumably send him cash. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 years ago

CRT is not being taught in schools.  It's just another astroturf (bought and paid for) movement 'fighting against something' that doesn't exist.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 years ago
Vic, do you know who Christopher Rufo is ? 

I do, but it is irrelevant to his opinion. Why not focus on what the man has to say rather than smearing him or the source etc. The other day we had the ultimate attempt to cancel an article. Somebody actually pulled a comment out of the original article's comment section and charged that such articles provoked such comments.

Let's just focus on the argument being made.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    3 years ago
Why not focus on what the man has to say rather than smearing him or the source etc.

lol. A few weeks I had never heard of him. Then I saw something that directed me to his twitter page. This person openly admitted that he wanted to call everything he doesnt like about "wokeness" critical race theory, which is absurd.  He also appealed to his twitter readers to send him money. 

In truth he is a grifter, but I suppose his fans will oppose that description because he gives them what they want. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    3 years ago
Let's just focus on the argument being made.

Vic, I just made 3 or 4 posts on the seed about "the argument being made". Have you? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    3 years ago

He's not the topic. His valid point is the topic.

Did you really think we are going to let the brainwashed do the same to our children?

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.4  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.3    3 years ago
Did you really think we are going to let the brainwashed do the same to our children?

Perhaps you could furnish me with a link to these resolutions so that I could READ them for myself. Taking two word phrases or partial sentences out of context fails to prove anything. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @3.2.4    3 years ago

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That's my favorite by the way. The one where the dumb as rocks Teacher's Union describes "Know Thyself" as an ancient African proverb !!!!!!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.2.6  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.5    3 years ago
"Know Thyself" as an ancient African proverb !!!!!!

Um, ok. Or . . . Greece . Or China . Or India . All dating to - at the latest - 5th century BCE. 

I’ve had professors that used to do with China what these people are trying to do with Africa. I.e.everything important that ever happened - or was ever thought of - came from this particular non-European civilization. It’s “education” with an agenda to glorify an “exotic” civilization over Western Civilization, which is supposed to be embarrassed at everything it allegedly stole from someone else.

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.7  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.5    3 years ago

Oh thanks for ANTOTHER article that fails to link to the ACTUAL resolution. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @3.2.7    3 years ago

"Oh thanks for ANTOTHER article that fails to link to the ACTUAL resolution."

Funny how that works????  It doesn't exist because CRT is not being taught in schools!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.9  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @3.2.7    3 years ago

You're very welcome

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.2.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.8    3 years ago
It doesn't exist because CRT is not being taught in schools!

Prove it!

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.2.11  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.10    3 years ago
Prove it!

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JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    3 years ago

The teachers union resolution that is the subject of this breathless article contains six  A-F conclusions. I will paraphrase them

The NEA will

share and publicize what Critical Race Theory is and is not, and have staff available to guide members who want to fight back against anti CRT rhetoric

provide material that  'critiques empire, white supremacy, anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism, and other forms of power and oppression at the intersections of our society"

publicly convey it's support for teaching age appropriate accounts of the unpleasant aspects of American history , " in teaching these topics, it is reasonable and appropriate for curriculum to be informed by academic frameworks for understanding and interpreting the impact of the past on current society, including critical race theory."

"  Join with Black Lives Matter at School and the Zinn Education Project to call for a rally this year on October 14—George Floyd’s birthday—as a national day of action to teach lessons about structural racism and oppression. "

promote honesty abut CRT

have NEA president make statements promoting racial honesty

New Business Item 39 - 2021 NEA Annual Meeting

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 years ago

I have read the resolution, and it is clear that the NEA does not accept being intimidated by conservative media and conservative parent groups. In the resolution they do mention critical race theory by name a couple times, but they do not say they will "teach" it to children, probably because it is not an "age appropriate" concept for children. 

The teachers union does say they will conduct

"honest teaching of social studies topics, including truthful and age-appropriate accountings of unpleasant aspects of American history, such as slavery, and the oppression and discrimination of Indigenous, Black, Brown, and other peoples of color, as well as the continued impact this history has on our current society." 

That is the only sentence in the resolution that relates to what children will be TAUGHT in school. The rest of the resolution relates to what teachers will discuss behind the scenes of the classroom. 

There is nothing wrong with teaching children the unpleasant aspects of American history. In fact it's necessary. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 years ago
share and publicize what Critical Race Theory is and is not

Fuck them, we know what it is.


provide material that  'critiques empire, white supremacy, anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism, and other forms of power and oppression at the intersections of our society"

It's sounds very Orwellian, not to mention Marxist/racist.


No way are we going to allow the left to do this.  Not with our tax money.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2    3 years ago

MOFA

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2    3 years ago

How are YOU going to STOP SOMETHING THAT ISN'T HAPPENING?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.2.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.2    3 years ago

Start at the 12 second mark.................

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.3    3 years ago

I've seen it. There is no question there is an obvious message there.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.3    3 years ago

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JohnRussell
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4.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.3    3 years ago

What is it about that commercial that bothers you? Please be specific. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.4    3 years ago

What is it about that commercial that bothers you? Please be specific.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.2.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.6    3 years ago
What is it about that commercial that bothers you? Please be specific. 

Nothing in that commercial bothers me. Did you see what I was responding to and then listen at the 12 second mark? Let me help you out..........first, post 4.2.2

"How are YOU going to STOP SOMETHING THAT ISN'T HAPPENING?"

Beginning at 12 second mark...........

"Oh it's happening sweetheart"

Get it?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.2.9  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.8    3 years ago

No.  Because CRT is not being taught in schools K-12 (kindergarten through grade 12 for those who pretend not to know what that means)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.7    3 years ago

It appeals to leftist hate.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.2.3    3 years ago

Not relevant.  No obvious message anywhere.  It's a commercial.  Has nothing to do with CRT which is NOT being taught in schools.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.10    3 years ago

What 'leftist hate'?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.13  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.12    3 years ago

That which we say rioting in big blue cities for over a year.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.13    3 years ago

So there is no such thing as 'leftist hate'

Thanks for the confirmation.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.14    3 years ago
Thanks for the confirmation.  

No, thank you!

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
4.2.16  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2    3 years ago
Fuck them, we know what it is.

Prove it!

It's sounds very Orwellian,

You proven more than once that you haven't a clue what about Orwellian concepts. 

not to mention Marxist/racist.

Ohhh, Marxist racists. More [blather...deleted]

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
4.2.17  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.13    3 years ago
That which we say rioting in big blue cities for over a year.

You've repeated that lie more than once Vic. There have been NO riots in the US this year. 

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.18  JBB  replied to  Dulay @4.2.17    3 years ago

The only riot this year was Trump's on Jan 6.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.19  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @4.2.18    3 years ago

And that wasn't even a 'riot' it was a failed coup.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 years ago
publicly convey it's support for teaching age appropriate accounts of the unpleasant aspects of American history

The thing is, we already do that. All the CRT talk is just freaking people out.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @4.3    3 years ago

They are freaking themselves out

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.3.2  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @4.3    3 years ago
All the CRT talk is just freaking people out.

Ignorance has that effect quite often. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4    3 years ago

“The ancient African proverb says, “Know Thyself.” “it is reasonable and appropriate for curriculum to be informed by academic frameworks for understanding and interpreting the impact of the past on current society, including critical race theory,” the   union said.



The ancient African proverb?  "Nnow Thyself" as most people might know is an ancient Greek proverb. It is inscribed on the statue of Apollo in the Temple to Apollo. The Teachers Union is that stupid and they want to teach our kids this evil ideology.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

Teachers unions should stick to controlling joe Biden’s covid response. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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6  Hallux    3 years ago

At one point sex sold everything, now it is fear with even its purveyors buying it. America doesn't need a new President, it needs a new Arthur Miller.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

You almost have to feel sorry for those posters who claimed  CRT wasn't taught in schools, now their ally admits it publicly.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 years ago

Uh, no. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    3 years ago

Even the teachers admit it John.. That talking point was always ridiculous. Now it's dishonest.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    3 years ago

I have already commented on this. The resolution is related more to reinforcing teachers against the attacks from the right on the subject of CRT than it is to teaching it. They will not teach CRT in k-12 schools, they will teach "truthful and age-appropriate accountings of unpleasant aspects of American history, such as slavery, and the oppression and discrimination of Indigenous, Black, Brown, and other peoples of color, as well as the continued impact this history has on our current society."  and people like you will call it critical race theory because you want to take advantage of that boogieman approach. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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7.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.1.1    3 years ago
Now it's dishonest.

Nothing new there when it comes to the liberal/progressive agenda.

They have to lie about it and hope if they tell the lie enough times it will become the truth.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @7.1.3    3 years ago
Projection
 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @7.1.5    3 years ago

No spin - it's not being taught in schools K-12.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    3 years ago

Okay, at what age or grade will they be teaching it?

Is it somewhere between kindergarten and 12th grade?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.7    3 years ago

"Okay, at what age or grade will they be teaching it?

Is it somewhere between kindergarten and 12th grade?"

What part of 'it's not being taught from Kindergarten up to 12th grade', don't you understand?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.8    3 years ago

Then teachers must be fucking idiots because their very own union allocated money for CRT.

Or perhaps that makes sense to progressive liberals--spend money on nothing. Typical.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.2  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 years ago

Except it's NOT being taught K-12.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.2    3 years ago

The left can't have it both ways.

Either it's "simply teaching history" or it's not being taught?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.1    3 years ago

IT'S NOT BEING TAUGHT IN K-12.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.2    3 years ago

What does that mean?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.2.3    3 years ago

You can't figure it out?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.2    3 years ago

Did you read the article?

If they aren't teaching it in kindergarten through 12th grade, when ARE they teaching it, and to whom?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.2    3 years ago
IT'S NOT BEING TAUGHT IN K-12.

I can see you didn't read the article again.

The union, which represents 3 million public school employees, approved funding for three separate items related to this issue

Why would any money be allotted for ANYTHING to do with CRT if no one is teaching it--as you "claim"?

That is crazy!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    3 years ago
You almost have to feel sorry for those posters who claimed  CRT wasn't taught in schools, now their ally admits it publicly.

That's standard practice. Remember when they denied that the Steele Dossier was used to get a FISA warrant. Then they moved to it wasn't just the Steele Dossier and eventually they admitted all of the above was true, but it was somehow a mistake.

The same with America. At one time they only said it had flaws, finally after taking full power they admit that they think America is a racist country and was from the very start illegitimate.

Once they think they are it total control the truth comes out!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3    3 years ago
they think America is a racist country

The history of America as relates to people of color is racist, yes.  Would you like me to start drowning you with proof of that Vic? 

Why not admit the wrongful past and try to build a better future? You cannot go back and change what happened.

Give me a single decade in American history, from 1610 to 1970, when people of color were given equal treatment overall to whites.  Thats 36 decades Vic. Name one where people of color were treated equally with whites. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.1    3 years ago

Sometimes we hear the past defended with the argument that tens of thousands of whites died to make blacks free, as if that settles it .

What about the next 100 years ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.1    3 years ago
The history of America as relates to people of color is racist, yes.

And there it is. Ten years ago I doubt you would have said that.


 Would you like me to start drowning you with proof of that Vic? 

And I'll once again drown you out it what this country has done for minorities and freedom in general.


Why not admit the wrongful past and try to build a better future? 

We all know the nation's history, good and bad. Telling young white children that they were born racist and trying to make them hate themselves is pure evil, just as teaching black children that they are victims and trying to make them bitter. I'm more concerned with the "wrongful' present.


You cannot go back and change what happened.

Nor can we remedy any thing with unrelated generations.


Give me a single decade in American history, from 1610 to 1970, when people of color were given equal treatment overall to whites. 

Every race has endured slavery. The USA ended it.


Thats 36 decades Vic. Name one where people of color were treated equally with whites. 

Again, we know world history. Teaching people to hate whites is evil.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.2    3 years ago

You never hear the past defended, but we do hear this obsession over race coming from the evil left.


What about the next 100 years ?

Do tell, what do you have in mind?  Is it to make Whites hate themselves? Win more elections for democrats?

Oh, I know, maybe a final solution for Whites?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.3.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.3    3 years ago

Now it's "world history" lol.  I doubt if you would credit the good things the US has done to the rest of the world also. 

Vic, please stop talking about "what this country has done for minorities", such claims are ridiculous and offensive in light of the words "all men are created equal". When all are equal no one needs to have something "done for" them. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.3.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.4    3 years ago
Oh, I know, maybe a final solution for Whites?

I feel hysteria coming on in this seed. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.5    3 years ago
Now it's "world history" lol. 

Slavery is a big part of world history. It even existed in the New World long before the Europeans arrived.


Vic, please stop talking about "what this country has done for minorities", such claims are ridiculous and offensive in light of the words "all men are created equal". When all are equal no one needs to have something "done for" them. 

John, you'll be hearing me talk a lot about it. There are no safe spaces on this platform.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.6    3 years ago
I feel hysteria coming on in this seed. 

Really?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.3.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.7    3 years ago
John, you'll be hearing me talk a lot about it.

That depends on how foolish you intend to look. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.9    3 years ago

Not quite as foolish as trying to defend CRT or being obsessed with race.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
7.3.11  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.4    3 years ago
Oh, I know, maybe a final solution for Whites?

Ah, the final argument for selling fear. Does it come with a free Lindell pillow?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.3.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.3    3 years ago
The history of America as relates to people of color is racist, yes.
And there it is. Ten years ago I doubt you would have said that.

Ten years ago I hadn't thought as much about the 100 years between the Civil War and the Civil Rights Act as I have done since. In the past 5 or 10 years I have learned much about the Confederacy , slavery, the founding fathers and slavery but especially the Lost Cause myth ,and how the South "won" the war of propaganda over what the war had been about, Jim Crow and the history of racial prejudice since the Civil War that I had not paid a lot of attention to before. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.13  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @7.3.11    3 years ago

Many people didn't think it was possible in the 1940's.

The New York Times refused to believe it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.12    3 years ago
Ten years ago I hadn't thought as much about the 100 years between the Civil War and the Civil Rights Act as I have done since.

Ten years ago the left hadn't taken on this mantra.


 In the past 5 or 10 years I have learned much about the Confederacy , slavery, the founding fathers and slavery but especially the Lost Cause myth ,and how the South "won" the war of propaganda about what the war had been about, Jim Crow and the history of racial prejudice since the Civil War that I had not paid a lot of attention to before. 

You read that book only recently then?

Now that you read all that, what do you want us in 2021 to do about it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.3.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.14    3 years ago
You read that book only recently then? Now that you read all that, what do you want us in 2021 to do about it?

Its not one book . It is many sources. The 'success' of the Lost Cause myth probably did more to inform race relations between 1870 and 1970 than any other single concept. 

I dont agree with reparations for the simple reason that it would be prohibitively difficult to decide who deserved them. 

What we need to start is for white people to stop denying reality. This is not "their" country. We should stop teaching schoolchildren to revere the "founding fathers" as individuals. It is a fetish at this point. 

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
7.3.16  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.13    3 years ago

If there is a comparison to be made between then and now, it is with the same types promulgating the same fears.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.17  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.15    3 years ago
The 'success' of the Lost Cause myth probably did more to inform race relations between 1870 and 1970 than any other single concept. 

That book was widely read, but I doubt the "Lost Cause myth" had any impact on race relations. I think it was allowed to be flourish in the south because there were southern leaders (democrats) who were still resisting provisions of the 13th Amendment and the idea of an integrated society any way they could. I think some northern politicians (like Woodrow Wilson) thought they were throwing the south a bone. I don't think Black Americans cared about it, as a matter of fact it wasn't until white progressive professors took offense to it did it become the issue that it has become.


I dont agree with reparations for the simple reason that it would be prohibitively difficult to decide who deserved them. 

That's very nice of you John. Especially since there is nobody alive today who is offender or victim.


What we need to start is for white people to stop denying reality. This is not "their" country. We should stop teaching schoolchildren to revere the "founding fathers" as individuals.

What we need is for a President DeSantis to deny federal funding to any school that teaches leftist ideology.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.3.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.17    3 years ago

The Lost Cause Myth is not a book . It is a topic in U.S. history. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.19  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.18    3 years ago
The Lost Cause Myth is not a book .

But "The Lost Cause" is a book. Thus what the myth mantra flows from.

You know all that. 

All of it trivial at this point, unless you advocate doing something about it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.3.20  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.3.19    3 years ago

There are a number of books that have the words Lost Cause in the title. 

The concept refers to the effort by southern propagandists to rehabilitate the image of the confederacy and the south in the decades following the end of reconstruction. The lost cause myth was largely successful, hence things like Gone With The Wind and the movie where Shirley Temple danced with a slave and her daddy was a good hearted Confederate officer who all the slaves loved. Hence the right wing assertion over the years that slavery wasnt all that bad. Jim Crow would not have been accepted for 100 years unless the Lost Cause myth was a success. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.3.21  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.20    3 years ago
There are a number of books that have the words Lost Cause in the title. 

Oh yes, one of them is about Jesse James. I don't need to look that up btw.


The concept refers to the effort by southern propagandists to rehabilitate the image of the confederacy and the south in the decades following the end of reconstruction. 

I think we have exhausted that point, haven't we John?


 Hence the right wing assertion over the years that slavery wasnt all that bad.

I NEVER heard that one. Could you be specific?


 Jim Crow would not have been accepted for 100 years unless the Lost Cause myth was a success. 

Was it the myth or simply southern resistance to reconstruction?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.3.23  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @7.3.1    3 years ago
You cannot go back and change what happened.

Then there is no point or sense in dwelling on that history which can not be changed.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
7.3.24  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @7.3.23    3 years ago
Then there is no point or sense in dwelling on that history which can not be changed.

Since NO history can be changed, why 'dwell' on ANY history? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8  seeder  Vic Eldred    3 years ago

This just in :

Nikole Hannah-Jones rejects UNC tenure offer for position at Howard University http:// hill.cm/iLuSMFI


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We won't forget UNC.

Let's see if I have this straight: After the university rescinded the tenure offer, Hannah-Jones agreed to accept the position on a non-tenured basis. Then she demanded tenure and the board changed its position after making it an issue. Now, Hannah-Jones has denounced the university and accepted a position at Howard University.  She is a hate-filled moron.
 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    3 years ago

So what?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @8.1    3 years ago

That's where the outrageous 1619 project came from. Don't you want to see what the big fish is up to?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    3 years ago

The 1619 project can kiss my lily white ass ..... twice!

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
8.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    3 years ago

Conservatives caused the furor and now you're bitching? She is no moron, and as to who are the hate filled ... do you really need more than one guess?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @8.2    3 years ago
Conservatives caused the furor

How so? By not accepting the indoctrination of their children?


She is no moron

I think she is.


and as to who are the hate filled ... do you really need more than one guess?

I don't have to guess. They have rioted in big blue cities for over a year.

 
 
 
Hallux
PhD Principal
8.2.2  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.1    3 years ago

'They' also rioted on the steps and in the halls of Congress.

"Indoctrination"? Oooo ... scary word, damn that woman for a new perspective that does not conform to your world view. History and Revision are dancing partners, your Negationism is a wallflower.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.2.3  Sparty On  replied to  Hallux @8.2.2    3 years ago

We are getting close to time in the USA when more folks will tell people like this to fuck off.   Many of us already do.  

That's my perspective.   Enjoy!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.2.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.1    3 years ago

You are perfectly right on here!  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
8.2.5  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.1    3 years ago
How so?

Did you fail to actually read your own link AGAIN Vic? It answers your question. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.2.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @8.2.5    3 years ago
It answers your question. 

But not the way some would like.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
8.2.7  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.2.6    3 years ago
But not the way some would like.

It seems obvious that the 'some' includes YOU. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
8.3  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    3 years ago

Ah yes, angry and entitled .... a mantra for todays trendy liberal/progressive.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
8.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @8.3    3 years ago

Projection

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
8.3.2  Dulay  replied to  Sparty On @8.3    3 years ago

Guess you didn't read Vic's link any more than he did. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
9  Tacos!    3 years ago

I feel like too many people on both sides of the chaos don’t understand that CRT is a legal theory taught in a couple handfuls of law schools. There is no reason to teach it in K-12 or even most undergraduate college courses.

If you want to teach the idea that American History is also a history of racism, race relations, and continuous struggles to expand civil rights, we already do that and have been doing that for a long time.

The whole conversation strikes me as a way of getting people riled up over nothing just for the sake of politics.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
10  Colour Me Free    3 years ago

How does one teach critical race theory to young people before they even have critical thinking skills ..? many adults do not even have critical thinking skills..!  Honesty in US history is what should be being taught.. then young people have the tools to think for themselves...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @10    3 years ago

CRT isn't being taught in schools, so there's that.  

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
10.1.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tessylo @10.1    3 years ago

Never said it was .. here is the definition of CRT

critical race theory (CRT) , intellectual movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that the law and legal institutions in the United States are inherently racist insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans . critical race theory | Definition, Principles, & Facts | Britannica

My point is that this subject matter is not for young people .. honesty in history being taught will allow young people to think for themselves.  That is after all what school is all about .. learning and taking what one learns to form their own educated opinion - 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @10.1.3    3 years ago

It's not being taught to young people.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @10.1.1    3 years ago

It's not being taught to young children, it's not being taught in schools to grades K-12.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  dennis smith @10.1.1    3 years ago

peating something does not make it true.

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Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
10.1.7  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.4    3 years ago

From the article..

The union, which represents 3 million public school employees, approved funding for three separate items related to this issue: "increasing the implementation" of "critical race theory" in K-12 curricula, promoting critical race theory in local school districts, and attacking opponents of critical race theory, including parent organizations and conservative research centers.

So .. yeah it is on some level .. I would have to research to see in what classes .. may only be at the high school level and taught in history or government - I cannot say til I do the work

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @10.1.7    3 years ago

From the article - I do not take the source seriously, nor should anyone.    It's an 'opinion piece' from the NY Post.  Not a reputable source.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
10.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.8    3 years ago
Not a serious source.

You mean it doesn't fit your "not teaching it in schools" narrative. Sorry. Not a serious criticism that anyone should believe.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1.10  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @10.1.9    3 years ago

They're not teaching it grades K-12.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Colour Me Free @10.1.7    3 years ago

The person who wrote the seeded article is not a credible source.  He has admitted that he will refer to any part of "wokeness" he doesnt like as "critical race theory" . He is pouring water from a poisoned well. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.11    3 years ago
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“We’ve needed new language for these issues,” Rufo told me, when I first wrote to him, late in May. “ ‘Political correctness’ is a dated term and, more importantly, doesn’t apply anymore. It’s not that elites are enforcing a set of manners and cultural limits, they’re seeking to reengineer the foundation of human psychology and social institutions through the new politics of race, It’s much more invasive than mere ‘correctness,’ which is a mechanism of social control, but not the heart of what’s happening. The other frames are wrong, too: ‘cancel culture’ is a vacuous term and doesn’t translate into a political program; ‘woke’ is a good epithet, but it’s too broad, too terminal, too easily brushed aside. ‘Critical race theory’ is the perfect villain,” Rufo wrote.
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“Its connotations are all negative to most middle-class Americans, including racial minorities, who see the world as ‘creative’ rather than ‘critical,’ ‘individual’ rather than ‘racial,’ ‘practical’ rather than ‘theoretical.’ Strung together, the phrase ‘critical race theory’ connotes hostile, academic, divisive, race-obsessed, poisonous, elitist, anti-American.” Most perfect of all, Rufo continued, critical race theory is not “an externally applied pejorative.” Instead, “it’s the label the critical race theorists chose themselves.”
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Just imagine all the true believers out there who are going to send this guy 10 or 20 bucks a month, automatically, because they have seen him on Tucker Carlson repeatedly.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.11    3 years ago

The person who wrote the article happens to be 100% right. We are never going to let you do it. It will take at least 4 years, but we will begin taking the univerity back too!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
10.1.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.12    3 years ago

Totally irrelevant.

Here is what is relevant - a film that has been shown to young school children:

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.14    3 years ago

The person who wrote the article is a grifter. The "left" was not promoting the idea of critical race theory in schools, no one was. Christopher Rufo decided that he would promote this as a national issue after he was told about racial sensitivity training in some pacific northwest companies. 

The whole thing is essentially a con. 

Are there teachers who talk about "white privilege" and so forth in class? yes, of course. It is a viable topic in a social studies class. But it is not critical race theory. 

Why does the right want a "critical race theory" boogieman? Because they think they can tie it to "marxism" or "communism" and they cant do that with plain old "white privilege". 

Its gets tiresome being the only one who knows what he is talking about in some of these discussions with "conservatives". 

This guy Rufo explicitly asked people to send HIM money so he could continue to fight CRT on their behalf.  It is a grift. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
10.1.17  Colour Me Free  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.8    3 years ago

and you do not have to ...

I just read multiple articles on the subject - and it does appear to be a political football...  the consensus being that CRT 'itself' is not being taught in most schools, but the concept has been embraced and should be part of curriculum [whatever that means]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.15    3 years ago

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.19  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1.15    3 years ago

Vic, Christopher Rufo took lessons and concepts that are not CRT, and renamed them CRT because he wanted to create this "crusade" and he needed a boogieman. 

Thats what happened, and to his credit, the right bit. He has appeared on Tucker Carlson numerous times with his allegations. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.20  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.12    3 years ago

You know John is rattled by all the energy he puts into discussing everything but the substance of the criticisms of CRT.  The first deflection is to quibble over semantics.  He claims CRT is only refers to what was discussed in law schools 30 years ago. The actual person who coined the term CRT, Kimberlee Crenshaw, notes that "CRT is not a noun, but a verb. It cannot be confined to a static and narrow definition but is considered to be an evolving and malleable practice. "CRT is not so much an intellectual unit filled with stuff – theories, themes, practices and the like – but one that is dynamically constituted by a series of contestations and convergences pertaining to the ways that racial power is understood and articulated in the post-civil rights era."  

By quibbling over the applicability of the title CRT, John avoids discussing the indefensible, the racist indoctrination of students.  

John then pivots to his next logical fallacy, attacking a journalist rather than what he covers. It's easier to villainize Rufo than try and dispute the substance of what he reports.

Finally, John will pivot to the motte and baily fallacy. Where in order to persuade the uninformed about what the debate is about, he'll the issue is just about teaching kids that racism is bad, or that slavery existed and that those who oppose CRT just want to ban any discussion of slavery. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.21  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.20    3 years ago

Sean, CRT was not a "thing" in American everyday discourse until Christopher Rufo made it one. 

That would be unusual in itself even without the fact that Rufo 

a) admitted on twitter that he had developed an expansive definition of CRT, and b) asked people to send him money so he could keep up the good fight. 

One has to wonder what size two by four people need to be hit upside the head with before reality dawns on them. 

How a Conservative Activist Invented the Conflict Over Critical Race Theory | The New Yorker

That is the TITLE of an article in the New Yorker about this. 

Open your eyes. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
10.1.22  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.20    3 years ago

I give Rufo credit. Its not that often that someone can create a conflict out of the blue and turn it into an income stream. He should be working in the Trump organization. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1.24  Tessylo  replied to  Colour Me Free @10.1.17    3 years ago
So you've confirmed it's not being taught in schools from kindergarten up to 12th grade. Got it!
 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
10.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Colour Me Free @10    3 years ago

Apparently there is no longer Racial EQUALITY without White DEGRADATION.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @10.2    3 years ago

What WHITE DEGRADATION would that be?

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
10.2.2  Colour Me Free  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @10.2    3 years ago

My youngest went through a time of wondering if he should be ashamed to be white - I am sure you recall it was a rough time for me and my lil family

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @10.2    3 years ago

Exactly what I thought.  No answer to my question.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
10.2.4  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @10.2    3 years ago

512

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
11  Colour Me Free    3 years ago

Opinion | 'Critical Race Theory' And How American History Is Taught - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

I do not have access to the NY Times beyond one free article - ask me about Foreign Affairs, and I have full access.... which is not the point ..

One of the disheartening thing about news, is that it is all (for the most part) opinion based ... one can find their 'view point' in most sources, one just needs to look -

News is now divided into (R) and (D) one side of the aisles news is a lie and the other is not .. posting on this site or any other is not going to change another's mind ...

Soooooo I have exhausting my brain  .. in the words of a dreaded 'both sider' I declare a draw ...

Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth 1967 - YouTube

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
12  Ender    3 years ago

Reading, writing and...♪ my history, dot com ♪...

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
12.1  Colour Me Free  replied to  Ender @12    3 years ago
...♪ my history, dot com ♪...

... but ...but ... the website does not work   : ) 

Peace!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
13  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

Now the NEA has deleted the document detailing its support for CRT  in k-12 education from its website.  It worked for Stalin….

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
13.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @13    3 years ago

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But it was never being taught/going to be taught in K-12.  So there's that.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
13.2  Sparty On  replied to  Sean Treacy @13    3 years ago

The best lie a liar will ever tell is to convince everyone they are not lying.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
14  Tessylo    3 years ago

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What Is Critical Race Theory?

Academic experts, including Crenshaw, say critical race theory is not what is being taught in K-12 education curriculums.

Critical race theory is a study in academia based on the concepts of systemic and institutional racism.  Systemic racism   refers to how the government has discriminated against Black, Indigenous and other people of color through unjust policies concerning housing, employment, criminal justice, education and more.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @14    3 years ago

I have the solution Tess.

Camera's in every classroom and Civilian Review Boards made up of parents to review the performance of teachers.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
14.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1    3 years ago
Civilian Review Boards made up of parents to review the performance of teachers.

That is the job of the Principle. If you want to lose all the teachers, leave them to the mercy of bickering parents, who can't agree on anything.

 
 
 
FortunateSon
Freshman Silent
14.1.2  FortunateSon  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.1.1    3 years ago

Losing every teacher who backs CRT would be no loss at all.

Parents have every right to demand CRT be trashed along with any who teach that racist crap.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
14.1.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  FortunateSon @14.1.2    3 years ago

Lol fuck what parents think should be taught. most parents are goddamn morons and don’t know their ass from a hole I. The ground on just about any given subject. 

Shit, if parents get to decide then let’s just close down all the schools and become a sweat shop nation again.

 
 
 
FortunateSon
Freshman Silent
14.1.4  FortunateSon  replied to  Thrawn 31 @14.1.3    3 years ago

Sorry to break the news but your wrong. On every count.

Education is the states domain. And the people in those states can and  will send these racist liberals packing.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
14.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  FortunateSon @14.1.2    3 years ago

Except no one is teaching it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
14.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1    3 years ago

That's just crazy.  So you're taking up Hannity's suggestion as far as the cameras in the classrooms?

That's insane.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
14.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @14.1    3 years ago

A solution to something that is not happening.

Got it.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
15  Perrie Halpern R.A.    3 years ago

Article moved to "We the People".

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
16  Thrawn 31    3 years ago

Race based Marxism eh? See, when phrases like that are used I know there is nothing to be taken seriously in the rest of the article/seed. What exactly is “Marxist” about CRT? And gimme something better than it promotes some “us vs them” concept because then damn near everything qualifies.

 
 
 
FortunateSon
Freshman Silent
17  FortunateSon    3 years ago
critical race theory in all 50 states and 14,000 local school districts

LOL as if.

CRT has already been banned in several states.  Expect more to come.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
17.1  Tessylo  replied to  FortunateSon @17    3 years ago

How can something that doesn't exist be banned???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 
 

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