Florida diner owner tells Biden supporters to eat elsewhere
By: Joshua Rhett Miller (New York Post)
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
The owner of a Florida diner is telling President Biden supporters they're personae non grata in the wake of the suicide bombing that killed 13 US service members in Afghanistan.
A sign posted in the window of the DeBary Diner flatly tells would-be customers to turn around if they back Biden and his administration following Thursday's attack by ISIS-K at the Kabul airport, WOFL reported.
"If you voted for and continue to support and stand behind the worthless, inept and corrupt administration currently inhabiting the White House that is complicit in the death of our servicemen and women in Afghanistan, please take your business elsewhere," the blunt notice reads.
Angie Ugarte, who has owned the diner for five years, said she posted the sign Thursday after the suicide bombing that also killed nearly 200 Afghans. She intends to keep it up as long as Americans are stranded in Afghanistan, WOFL reported.
DeBary Diner owner Angie Ugarte is not welcoming Biden supporters.FOX 35
"It was the only thing I felt like I could do," Ugarte told the station. "I was just angry; I was just let down. I felt like one of those mothers or wives or sisters who were going to get that knock on the door."
Angie Ugarte posted the sign after the suicide bombing that also killed nearly 200 Afghans.FOX 35
Ugarte said a lot of her regular customers at the diner — which boasts the "tastiest" Cuban sandwiches in town, according to its website — are military vets. An entire wall inside is devoted to service members featuring military photos, flags and other decor, video shows.
"They have coffee every morning," Ugarte said of the local vets.
Reaction from customers, however, has been mixed, Ugarte said.
"I've had people come to the door and look at it and turn around and walk away," she told WOFL. "And I've had people come into my kitchen while I'm cooking and say, 'Hey, I like your sign.'"
Regardless of the response it causes, Ugarte said the plain-spoken poster is there to stay for now.
"If you really, really still stand behind what's allowed this to happen in the way that it has happened — which was unnecessary — then I really, really don't want to be associated with you in any way and I certainly don't want your business," she continued.
But at least one Florida man told the station he was put off by the sign and wouldn't be sitting at a table anytime soon.
"I wouldn't go there," DeBary resident Louis Vasquez told WOFL. "I don't appreciate it."
Multiple calls to the diner by The Post went unanswered Tuesday afternoon as its line was busy. A message seeking comment from the White House was not immediately returned.
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So it works both ways?
Biden supporters are now toxic.
Good! What comes around goes around. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
I understand that you're a religious Christian, and believe in Jesus...
Matthew 12 - 25 (King James Version)
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand."
Considering that, what do you see as he future of America?
Don't know about CA, but that was an old favorite around here.
Revenge is a dish that will eat the cook.
Do you consider it healthy for people to be so hyper partisan? One side goes extreme so the other side does likewise. Look at @1.1. This is a vicious cycle of emotion based on group think instead of rational and objective reasoning.
Unfortunately we are here and it didn't start with people like Angie Ugarte. I'm sure she would like to return to life as she knew it and I'd love to return to the carefree days of Perry Cuomo, but the American left has made that impossible. Once a mostly unrelentable fringe movement that only existed on a college campus is here now and I mean everywhere! Our families and neighbors are immersed in it and it threatens to destroy the greatest nation ever established along with our freedom and security.
The problem always was that people ignored it when it was festering at the university. Now we have to address it. We can't turn away.
I see you are drifting back towards your old "both sides" ways. Oh well.
The problem in America is not too much partisanship. It is too much partisanship on behalf of a crazed , evil, anti-democratic movement.
Do you ever wonder why these so called 74 million people only have one supreme leader? Only one man is powerful enough and persuasive enough to speak their hearts and their will, and that person is currently one of the worst people on earth.
Both sides are not "at fault" for the current degradation, although the left half of the spectrum is hardly faultless. Most political policy ideas have some fault and problems attached. But the left half of the spectrum is not "at fault" for our current degraded state. That blame falls squarely on the plague known as Trumpism.
There should'nt be any side. That ideology must go or we live in the world Orwell warned about.
That blame falls squarely
The full scale war is being conducted on behalf of Americans who have finally realized that they are about to lose their way of life to a very insidious ideology.
As one of our Greatest Presidents warned:
“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
I am not persuaded by hysteria .
Now we have Kevin McCarthy aping his lord and master Trump, threatening the nations telecommunications companies with GOP retribution if they co-operate with the Jan 6th congressional investigation.
What are they trying to hide Vic? What is in those phone calls that McCarthy would risk looking so foolish in order to try and hide them?
I'm about to post it
We await the latest distortion.
Investigating the opposing party has become the norm for democrats.
Don't troll me John. You know damn well that partisans exist in both parties and that they cast honesty aside to achieve their ends. Partisans lie for effect. It is pointless for you to pretend otherwise.
Further, I have no 'both sides' way. That implies that I see no differences between ideological and partisan factions. Noting that partisans exist in both parties does not mean both parties are equally bad in every dimension. Reality is nuanced. Your trolling comment implies a childlike simplicity on my part.
And here you are playing the partisan game. Instead of taking my obviously true statement as such, you now pretend as though I was making an argument that ' Trumpism is okay ' because ' both sides are partisan '.
That is a blatant misrepresentation of what I wrote. Here, John, read what I wrote. Read it carefully. Don't twist it or add in your own context. Just read my words:
I do not know what prompts you to misrepresent my position. One would think that one would not seek to alienate those who often are in agreement with one's positions. Just bizarre.
Problems are not solved by being an asshole. Angie Ugarte is being an asshole. Stereotyping all those who voted for Biden accomplishes nothing good. It is simply divisive, partisan behavior that triggers more of same.
Did you say all this last year when there were businesses that didn’t want Trump supporters as customers?
Hard to say since your question is vague. I will say now that any business that denies patrons simply because they are Trump supporters is being just as much of an asshole as Ugarte.
Stereotyping all those who voted for Trump accomplishes nothing good. It is simply divisive, partisan behavior that triggers more of same. There are plenty of people who voted for Trump for reasons that have nothing to do with Trump as a person and not everyone who voted for Trump agrees with everything he said or did. It is complicated. Think about it.
Now, try to remember that for the future.
However, I will make this comment regarding Trump. Those who, at this point, still believe (and promote the idea) that Trump actually won the election are also being divisive and are harming the USA. Those who would seek to return that miserable lying narcissist into office are doing the USA a disservice.
Ah yes Reagan the president that did nothing when our embassy in Beirut was bombed killing 63 including 17Americans followed shortly there after with the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut killing 241 Marines, sailors and soldiers. That was the start of what is called “the war on terror” in which Reagan did nothing.
This country is in a crisis. We are not in a crisis because there are too many "partisans" . We are in a crisis because there are too many Trump cultists. We see it even here, every day.
If you cant be against Trumpism without mentioning that there are partisans on "both sides" then we will do without you.
JohnRussell wrote: "That blame falls squarely on the plague known as Trumpism"
You've never defined 'Trumpism'
loyalty only or mainly to trump
disdain for experts and facts
white grievance
conspiratorial beliefs
nationalism
The core problem, IMO, is partisan 'thinking'. Partisan 'thinking' = parroting the party line; following the group as a loyal conformist; ignoring facts that counter the party line while embracing anything (even a whiff) that supports it.
So, from your perspective, you would see partisan 'thinking' from the right (and in particular from Trumpists) to be core to our current problems. The logic is, obviously, that those who support and embolden Trump continue to harm the nation.
And why are these Trumpists all believing the same basic stuff? Because they are conforming to the party line as articulated by Trump. They are engaging in partisan 'thinking'.
Now is it ALL of those things or just one or two in combination?
just for clarification.
“nationalism”
what’s your definition if nationalism? I gather it doesn’t match mine. To me it is taking pride in your country, wanting the best for your country, and always putting your country first before all others.
Definition of nationalism
I dont think we need to constantly be in competition with all other countries.
One can proud of their country without running around saying "we're number one".
And you don’t think that’s a good thing? That is a fucked up way of thinking.
What is messed up is thinking you are better or smarter than someone else just based on where you are instead of the content of your character and mental or physical capacities.
What’s really messed up is post 1.2.23. Where did the idiotic language in that post from? It sure didn’t come from my post.
Because right wing minds are so corrupt.
I wonder what Reagan would think of a President who refuses to acknowledge the result of an election.
Remember Benghazi? Hillary's emails? Bill Clinton's impeachment over a blow job? How about recalling a governor over wearing a paper mask? It may have become the norm for Democrats but it's been the norm for Republicans for several years.
I wonder what he would have thought of one who only ran to defeat another, was cognitively challenged and governed as an extreme radical?
I wonder what he would have thought of a two term president who depended on setting all races and groups against white men?
Or what he might think of a Republican President invonved in a crisis and a war that he never set about to pay for?
How can we forget. We keep hearing about it.
Hillary's emails?
Scandal # 2 she got away with.
Bill Clinton's impeachment over a blow job?
I was against it.
Newsom is being recalled for a lot more than that. He earned it. How about prosecuting Cuomo for what he did to people in nursing homes?
It may have become the norm for Democrats but it's been the norm for Republicans for several years.
The democrats are in a category all their own, be it slavery, corruption, segregation, voter fraud or Marxism.
Actually, she’s not urging one group to ‘get confrontational’ towards another.
No she is not, but she is using the left's policy of ostracizing those with a different point of view.
No, she’s not.
free publicity for a small business owner is great! ...oh wait...
meh, so she's just cut her potential customer base in half. bfd
I see a gofundme page in her future...
I'll bet she's against letting political refugees into this country too.
in that area of FLA? maybe a quarter , but no way near half .
I'm sorry to say you are wrong, Mark. That would only be true if she lives in the panhandle. The rest of FLA is pretty much 50/50. In fact, including the panhandle, Trump took 51.2% and Biden 47.9%.
The county she has her diner in reported that all hospitals are at maximum capacity. Sure hope that no one gets sick eating at her diner.
well in that case, I hope all biden supporters respect her wishes.
For her county she just kissed off 43 percent of possible customers. Excellent business plan /s.
I wouldn't spend my money at any restaurant owned by this dumb bitch to begin with. Where was her sign when Trump was responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands?
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." (Abraham Lincoln)
And so America's political divide filters down from the lawmakers to the public, a divided nation. Instead of the Stars and Stripes, or the Statue of Liberty, the Grand Canyon should be the symbol of America. I'm really starting to pity Americans.
So many forget the second part of that:
"It will become all one thing, or all the other." (Abraham Lincoln)
I'm really starting to pity Americans.
Save your pity for the day the progressives win.
No one in their right mind would want to patronize that salmonella palace. It will likely be out of business within two weeks.
You'd be surprised at how many so-called independents have come to regret their vote for Biden.
“…salmonella palace.”
Why would you publicly disparage a business with a baseless charge of poor public health, particularly when so many of you demand absolute proof of the most obvious common knowledge?
Yeah - and screw them gub’mint types telling them employees they gotta wash their hands after they use the turlet. Who they think they is anyways?! They’ll wash their hands when they damn well feel like it!! FREEDOM!!
I'm not sure that I'd want to cut a chunk out of my business. I like a rigorous debate just as much as anyone else, but I don't take it to work. Like many have said, we have become too partisan. Everything gets a political varnish these days.
Here is the thing missed here. She's not refusing to serve anyone. She may be asking a certain group to take their business elsewhere, but she's not saying that group is not allowed in or that they will be denied service.
Starbucks incident is not a management policy, but it's a denial of service. Hell, all things considered, I'd rather see the sign up, advising that you'd rather I take my money somewhere else. I will oblige, as I would assume many others would do. When your business suffers, you may rethink the notion of politicizing the sale of cubans.
So a Republican administration started the war and were in power during 12 years of the 20 year war and had thousands of our servicemen and women die during their administration, but this restaurant owner only wants to get political now in the last month when we are finally tearing off the band-aid and getting out? All she's doing is losing some business and making other half-witted morons proud to be Trump supporters which would be pretty funny if it wasn't so comically sad. Does she represent a majority of Americans? Of course not, she's just another "grab me by the pussy" right wing conservative dip shit who wants to make a splash in the local paper with her tired little rant. She's likely doing this in a deeply conservative area to drum up business and knows rational Americans, progressives and liberals are unlikely to frequent her establishment anyway so it's not a big hit to her pocket book. Otherwise she'd be out quite a lot of profit and lets face it, she'd be begging Biden supporters to eat at her restaurant if her business was losing money, her faux outrage is nothing but laughable.
I don't know about that. Not looking good for Biden.
Resign now: 52% want Biden out but fear worse under Harris (msn.com)
Biden at his lowest approval rating is still better than Trump at his highest. The Trump administration negotiated with the Taliban and started the withdrawal timeline but didn't have the fucking balls to do it during his administration. All the whiny sour grapes dip shit conservatives complaining now can go shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
52% of the voters want Biden’s ass gone.
Using the but Trump defense for Biden’s failed Presidency 7 months into his term is a sure sign of desperation .
[ Deleted ] Biden Administration and main stream media- if there is a half truth you will find it, and twist it into an outright lie. Then blame everybody else.
Obama saw the most US soldier deaths under his administration in Afghanistan- as he had the two massive surges. He also made the SOFA agreement that tied the US to a weak corrupt Afghan regime. People seem to forget that Obama also declared the war in Afghanistan over Dec 28 2014; and they even had a ceremony in Kabul to mark it's end.
Seems Obama was wrong.
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Bon Appetit
UPDATE:
The central Florida diner that announced it will not be serving anyone who still supports President Biden was temporarily forced to shutter on Wednesday after selling out of food.
Following the Kabul airport attack that killed 13 United States service members and almost 200 civilians late last month, DeBary Diner owner Angie Ugarte posted a sign in the DeBary, Florida, restaurant’s window informing those who “voted for and continue to support and stand behind the worthless, inept and corrupt administration currently inhabiting the White House that is complicit in the death of our servicemen and women in Afghanistan” to take their “business elsewhere.”
After various news outlets wrote about the sign this week, Ugarte was met with an overwhelming crush of diners to the point that the business ran out of food and was forced to close.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/03/biden-voter-rejecting-florida-diner-closed-due-to-popularity/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow
"Hatred" works, doesn't it. Please, Scotty, beam me back to the early 1950s. I think people were decent back then.
Like radicalizing black communities in order to win elections?
That would be the democratic party of 2021
Correction. Please, Scotty, beam me back to the early 1950s in Canada where I grew up. I think people were decent THERE back then.
Buzz, hatred and intolerance have existed in every nation and within every societal construct for millennia. In the recent past in the USA, we've seen the radical left encouraging people to get in the faces of Trump supporters and tell them they're not welcome (think Maxine Waters, et al). This diner owner is no different except for political party affiliation, and she did not advocate Waters' violence and threats.
As far as I know, people don't go to restaurants, concerts, and sporting events for political reasons. They go for pleasure, relaxation, and entertainment -- even today.
Nor should those who own or manage restaurants use them as political weapons. Never heard of that happening in Canada at least in the early 1950s.
Buzz, I was in Vancouver in 1971 and patronized many restaurants and bars. You would be amazed by the things that were written on the bathroom walls of both regarding Indians, by people who grew up and formed their prejudices during the 1950's. Each country (US and Canada) have their own prejudices about different racial, ethnic, religious and economic class groups within those societies. This is true of every country in the world, has been true for thousands of years and will continue to be so despite the earnest efforts of do gooders, who try very hard to improve societies and accomplish nothing.
There are, generally two reasons why they will never accomplish anything. First, they, as a group, really don't believe what they're trying to teach. They are simply applying the same type of prejudice to different groups. Second, they are working against the basic nature of human beings, who are, by nature, WILD ANIMALS. Any real attempt to tame them usually results in a lot of blood being spilled since wild animals operate on a code based on survival. Survival chances are improved when based on using family and tribe as basic units of loyalty. Nation and Species are way down the list of loyalty and will remain so.
In this you are quite correct, just not specific enough. The correct statement should read "I think MOST people were decent THERE back then". That is quite true, as it was true in most countries (including the US and China) back then and still is today.
I believe you misread Buzz's comments ... sensing some snark in them, possibly so did I.
If we all act little better than animals, then we should ALL be in cages.
Guiness Book of Records should be notified that a massive rush of bigots put a restaurant out of business.
Shame on you!
Buzz is being humorous, lighten up.
Calling people racist is not humor. It is a tool of the left.
Ah yes, the big bad left story. I would think someone of your intelligence would know the difference between bigotry and racism.
Maybe as well, somewhat of a lament.
Borrow SP's mask.
LOL. It took me a second to understand - but of course your comment is right on.
I taught English, Vic.
And you applied it to people whom you don't even know? For no reason?
I think you just defied the definition.
Yep, I don't know ANY of them, and I'm glad. I never want to know them, because if you read the definition of "bigot" you will see that those who are "attached to a right wing faction that is prejudiced or antagonistic toward Biden and others on the basis of their membership of a left wing or Democrat group ABSOLUTELY fit the definition of "bigot".
Under that interpretation, which is a flawed one, you could say the same about the Trump haters. And btw, that is where cancel culture started.
She also had to organize shipment of meals to veterans and soldiers who overwhelmed her with orders.
Since she's become so popular, she should run for mayor.
This is a case of stupidity not bigotry.
Perhaps, but it has certainly matured in the right wing thought circle.
Vic, stop trying to be [deleted.] We both know damn well that "cancel culture" is just a made up term to describe what humans have done since we were humans, ignore or get rid of things we don't like. Everyone has done/is doing it and has been since the dawn of time.
Seriously, when you say "cancel culture" it just makes me want to [deleted]
Ease up on Vic, [deleted.]
Lol whatever, there’s ALWAYS another restaurant.
Now THAT'S a positive attitude. LOL
Lol like hers is a world beater.
I saw a pickup truck on the highway yesterday. The owner spray painted GO TO HELL BIDEN on the side of it. Maybe the owner of this diner should require this of all patrons, just to ensure every moron who eats there is the real deal.
That’s where BiDen is putting America now!
It’s been heaven having Donald Trump muzzled.
So what is the clever wit behind the name-mangling: 'BiDen'? Are you calling Biden a double den? Or, maybe, a den that goes both ways?
Oh really? Specifically how?
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It is neither clever or witty. It is just more