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Supreme Court rules Trump can use military funds for border wall construction

  
Via:  Vic Eldred  •  6 years ago  •  149 comments


Supreme Court rules Trump can use military funds for border wall construction
 

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The Supreme Court on Friday ruled that the Trump administration can start using military funds to construct a wall on the southern border, handing the president a major legal victory.

 

The court’s four liberal justices each at least partially dissented on the   ruling .

 

The administration had asked the justices earlier this month to temporarily pause lower court rulings that blocked officials from tapping some of the diverted Pentagon dollars for border wall construction.


 

Solicitor General Noel Francisco argued that the needs of the administration outweighed those of groups like the ACLU and Sierra Club who are challenging the use of the Defense Department funds for the wall. And he said that if the funds remain frozen until the end of the fiscal year, authorities may not be able to use them at all.

 

U.S. District Judge Haywood Gilliam in California, an Obama appointee, issued a permanent injunction blocking officials from utilizing $2.5 billion of the roughly $6 billion in diverted military dollars, siding with the groups' arguments that building the wall would cause "irreparable harm" to their interests at the border.
And the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 ruling earlier this month, declined to temporarily halt that injunction, finding that “the use of those funds violates the constitutional requirement that the Executive Branch not spend money absent an appropriation from Congress."

 


President Trump   declared a national emergency earlier this year to reallocate the military funds for the border wall. That move followed a record 35 day-long partial government shutdown, as lawmakers from both parties refused to give Trump his requested amount of funds for border security.

House Democrats also attempted to sue to stop the diversion of the Pentagon dollars for a wall, claiming that only lawmakers can allocate federal funding under the Constitution.

But U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden in D.C., a Trump appointee, found that the lawmakers did not have the standing to bring forward the suit. That ruling is currently being appealed.



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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Another Win!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    6 years ago

Celebration! jrSmiley_24_smiley_image.gif A great ruling for America!  🇺🇸jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    6 years ago

Well Hallelujah! The lefties got to be chewing bile on this one!jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    6 years ago

congrats to agent orange on creating another rwnj money laundering scam to finance his 2020 bid for re-electoon. hopefully he'll wave that big fucking carrot in front of the politically connected contractors and then stiff them for poor quality work, like he has his entire adult life. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.3    6 years ago

Oh ya it's a scam now! It wasn't a scam when the SCOTUS found a secret right to privacy in the Constitution, but it's a scam when they say a President has the right to do what is done all the time!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.2    6 years ago

Funny how the most investigated leader in human history hasn't been charged with anything. His supporters are doing just fine. It's the hate-filled liberals who are screaming at the sky!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3.5  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.4    6 years ago

I doubt POS/POTUS will live long enough to see that Russian inspired wall completed. Spend that money fast fuckhead, your gov't ATM card expires in 15 months. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.4    6 years ago
He hasn't been charged with anything YET.

In what century can we expect an indictment?


Investigations are still ongoing. 

Not exactly the kind you had hoped for.


Tick tock tick tock

Um-hum

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.3.5    6 years ago
I doubt POS/POTUS will live long enough to see that Russian inspired wall completed.

You mean he can't do it with two terms?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
1.3.8  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.6    6 years ago
In what century can we expect an indictment?

At the rate Nadler, Schiff, Swalwell, Cummings, Harris, Booker, Waters, The Squad, et al  are going, their indictment will be handed down posthumously.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3.9  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.7    6 years ago

he's already close to the same age they strapped a drool cup to Raygun's chin and then kept him out of sight.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.3.10  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.3    6 years ago

And the more we can stoke the hatred of the TDS afflicted disloyal opposition the bigger of a landslide Trump will win and the public recoils at the antics of the squad led fanatics.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.3.11  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @1.3.5    6 years ago

Your math is only off and short by 51 months.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  seeder  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

"The   Supreme Court   sided with the Trump administration Friday in lifting a freeze put in place by a lower court halting plans to use $2.5 billion in Pentagon funds to build a border wall.

The decision, split along ideological lines, allows the administration to move ahead with plans to use military funds to replace existing fencing in California, Arizona and New Mexico."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  seeder  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

The ACLU should have been forced to pay all legal expenses along with each lawyer getting a good kick in the ass!

 
 
 
The Old Breed Marine
Freshman Silent
5  The Old Breed Marine    6 years ago

Any chance we could use illegal aliens as forced labor?

That would be awesome!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  The Old Breed Marine @5    6 years ago

I'm all for letting them work here for as long as they want, but there has to be a price to pay for illegal entry - no citizenship & no voting.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.1    6 years ago

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Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
5.1.7  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    6 years ago

Vic I might be getting soft as I get older , I could go for if someone enters illegally or overstays a work visa , they have to leave the country for say 2 years to be able to apply for citizenship at a later date , as long as while they were in this country they didn't have so much as a traffic violation  and no convictions for anything.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
5.1.9  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.6    6 years ago
Faux 'news' is your source? 

So you haven't proven me wrong at all.  

I await your additional proof 

You're welcome.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.10  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @5.1.7    6 years ago

Most are good people who either want to do a fair days work or need safety (something liberals are eroding in this country), but we can't absorb the entire third world. We have to be very careful not to encourage others to make the journey. The immigration system is broken. There are many on both sides of the aisle who are responsible for it, it needs fixing fast.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.14  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.11    6 years ago
Round them up, ALL of them, regardless of where they came from, and send them home. 

I would agree, but they have overwhelmed the system. The estimate is that there are over 20 million now living within the US. It's going to be about what we do with them. I say a path to citizenship is both unjustified and would send all kinds of wrong signals. We are left with few options either the one the democrats want - make em all citizens and enable them to vote for them (which their children will do anyway!) or what you and I want - No citizenship - EVER!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.15  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.13    6 years ago
 massive amount of illegal aliens voted for Hillary.

Do you really think all those democrat votes out in CA were for liberal policy? No, second generation Mexicans and illegal alien voters aren't voting for a "Green New Deal" or allowing "transgenders into the Ladies room - it's called the thank you vote!

Funny, only one President granted amnesty. Where was his "thank you vote?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.17  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.16    6 years ago

Projection

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.25  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.22    6 years ago
A good start would be determining how many different people are paying 'FICA' withholding's on the same SS number. 

Yes, that would be a starting point!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1.28  XXJefferson51  replied to    6 years ago

Me too!  What part of our Californication do you live in? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
5.1.29  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.13    6 years ago

It really doesn't matter who votes for who.  The popular vote doesn't count.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
5.3  cjcold  replied to  The Old Breed Marine @5    6 years ago

What you just posted is exactly why civilians should control the gung ho military.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
6  Mark in Wyoming     6 years ago

Saw somewhere that Ted Cruz suggested that 14B in assets ( In the US) forfeited by El Chapo on conviction go towards the wall and related expenses . that amount of money could build 2 maybe 3 layers of wall/ barrier, and fund CBP operations for some time.

Wish I could find it again...

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
6.1  Split Personality  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @6    6 years ago

Asset forfeitures held by the US Treasury are supposed to be used to pay down the the national debt unless Congress intervenes

with a specific need.

Allowing any Administration to do an end run on Congress's power of the purse is the beginning of the end of the rule of law.  As quoted above,

“the use of those funds violates the constitutional requirement that the Executive Branch not spend money absent an appropriation from Congress."
 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
Professor Silent
6.1.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Split Personality @6.1    6 years ago

Well Ted is a US Senator making the suggestions so that could be seen as starting the process of showing a specific need. and start the process for its use in this manner.

IMHO one of the selling points might be , that these funds if approved , will not cost the tax payer in taxes , will not create a deficit on the current budget , and will make it so that the nation will not have to borrow the money or make cuts elsewhere to get that money .

This money could be seen as the equivilant of finding a $100 bill in a coat you wore last winter . 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
6.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @6.1.1    6 years ago

There isn't a chance in Hades that any more than chump change will be collected from El Chapo.

Most of it was in real estate and vehicles in Mexico.

Our resident Chaplain, Enoch says he has valuable Florida property, above sea level, (most of the time), that is more valuable than El Chapos' imaginary "treasure of the Sierra Madres".

What was real and physical has already been confiscated, sold or stolen by his confederates, the competition and the government of Mexico. 

A judgement against him is worth as much as the paper it's written on.

We, The USA are left with that bag of poop, burning on the porch....after vandals ring the door bell and run away gleefully,

and now we get to pay for his lifetime incarceration.

Sorry I cannot be more enthusiastic until I see that they have found the buried trailers full of bullion and cash. /s

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7  XXJefferson51    6 years ago

The new deal today with Guatemala was Trumps other big win.  They agreed to do as Trump wished to keep trade and remittances unaffected and get their citizens legal guest worker status access in exchange for becoming a designated safe harbor.  Now all citizens of El Salvador and Nicaragua who pass through Guatemala to get to Mexico to come here will automatically be deported on sight for failure to seek asylum in Guatemala, the first safe harbor they enter.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
8  Tacos!    6 years ago

This seemed like it should have been an easy case. It's a shame that so many people have become so emotional about Trump's desire to secure the border that this opinion ended being split politically. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
12  Ender    6 years ago

The ruling basically stated that construction could move forward while the court proceedings continue.

Which is asinine.

It is like having a eminent domain case under review meanwhile letting them build on your land before the proceedings have a conclusion.

 
 

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