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Here’s the Perfect Way to Stop Putin from Hacking Our Democracy in 2020

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  4 years ago  •  37 comments

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Here’s the Perfect Way to Stop Putin from Hacking Our Democracy in 2020
Pelosi then drunkenly wonders why Mitch McConnell hasn’t taken his “evidence” of Russian election hacking to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, in order to protect our “critical election infrastructure.” Yeah, I can’t make any sense of that statement, either. Since when does Mitch McConnell have evidence of Russian election hacking? And if he had that evidence, why would he take it to Mike Pompeo, of all people? And what exactly is this “critical election infrastructure” that Putin is...

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Nancy Pelosi is an idiot. It was Clinton and Obama who collided with Russia.  Secure voter ID is needed to assure against foreign interference in our elections


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“Russian election interference” isn’t just a slogan for Democrats. It’s a giant metal ball that they’ve handcuffed to their legs. And the ball isn’t coming off, even if you threaten to toss them in a lake. They are married to “Russian election interference.”

You’d think after the way Robert Mueller’s investigation blew up in their faces like a Wile E. Coyote contraption from the ACME Corporation that they’d have decided to finally move on. But you’d be wrong.

Just the other day, Clinton hatchet-man George Stephanopoulos asked House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) if she’s still worried about Russian election interference in 2020. Pelosi’s response was, “That’s 24/7! They’re still engaged!”

Pelosi then went on to accuse not only President Trump of colluding with the Russians for the 2020 election, but also declared that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is a Russian “accomplice.”

Pelosi then drunkenly wonders why Mitch McConnell hasn’t taken his “evidence” of Russian election hacking to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, in order to protect our “critical election infrastructure.”

Yeah, I can’t make any sense of that statement, either.

Since when does Mitch McConnell have evidence of Russian election hacking? And if he had that evidence, why would he take it to Mike Pompeo, of all people? And what exactly is this “critical election infrastructure” that Putin is hacking?z If Nancy’s family loved her, they would announce her retirement immediately and then quietly shuffle her off to a good 12-step program.

I’ve also noticed and pointed out previously that all of these people throwing these bumper sticker slogans around about “Russian election interference” and how “Putin hacked our democracy” are really sparing with details. In fact, they don’t have any details. What was hacked? What was interfered with?

Anyway, enough with the questions, because we’re all about answers and solutions here. Democrats are married to the idea that Putin is hacking the 2020 election even as we speak. “That’s 24/7!” So, let’s play along.

Since Democrats are so incredibly concerned about the integrity of our elections, and the “fact” that Putin is hacking the elections 24/7, we have to stop him. Here’s how: Voter ID.

It would make it incredibly difficult for Putin to hack our democracy, if we require every voter to present a valid, government issued form of identification when voting. Every time a state-level challenge against voter ID has made it to the Supreme Court, it has ruled that states absolutely have a right to require voter ID. There is no reason to suspect that a federal voter ID law would be overturned by the courts. All of the legal precedent is in favor of voter ID.

I know what you’re thinking, Democrats. You’re thinking that voter ID will hamper your efforts to cheat in elections. Oh, sorry! That’s not what you’re thinking. What you’re really thinking is that voter ID is “racist.”

I can alleviate that concern as well. We all know that America is the only country that is racist, right? According to your leftist doctrine, America is the only country that has ever been racist! Therefore, we should run our elections like other countries, right?

Perhaps it would be a better, non-racist way to hold elections if we did it like Germany, France, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Switzerland and the Netherlands, correct? Oh, sorry, just one problem with that. You see, all of those countries that you consider to be non-racist actually use voter ID in order to protect their “critical election infrastructure” and to prevent Putin from hacking their democracies. So those wouldn’t be good examples.

How about those countries to the south of us? Maybe we could run our elections like they do in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and so on? Oh, wait.

Nope… virtually all Latin American countries have strict voter ID laws, in which citizens of those countries have to have a national voter registration card in their possession, along with a valid government-issued photo ID in order to vote. In other words, an MS-13 assassin has to show ID to vote in his home country of El Salvador… but not in Rhode Island.

Come to think of it, Canada has a strict voter ID law as well. Which makes America the only country in North and South America where we don’t have a national voter ID law. That’s such a glaring weakness that it’s obviously how Putin is hacking our democracy. So, what do you say, Nancy? Isn’t it time to get the House cracking on that federal voter ID law, to keep Putin from hacking our critical election infrastructure 24/7?


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

There is no reason to suspect that a federal voter ID law would be overturned by the courts. All of the legal precedent is in favor of voter ID.

I know what you’re thinking, Democrats. You’re thinking that voter ID will hamper your efforts to cheat in elections. Oh, sorry! That’s not what you’re thinking. What you’re really thinking is that voter ID is “racist.”

I can alleviate that concern as well. We all know that America is the only country that is racist, right? According to your leftist doctrine, America is the only country that has ever been racist! Therefore, we should run our elections like other countries, right?

Perhaps it would be a better, non-racist way to hold elections if we did it like Germany, France, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Switzerland and the Netherlands, correct? Oh, sorry, just one problem with that. You see, all of those countries that you consider to be non-racist actually use voter ID in order to protect their “critical election infrastructure” and to prevent Putin from hacking their democracies. So those wouldn’t be good examples.

How about those countries to the south of us? Maybe we could run our elections like they do in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and so on? Oh, wait.

Nope… virtually all Latin American countries have strict voter ID laws, in which citizens of those countries have to have a national voter registration card in their possession, along with a valid government-issued photo ID in order to vote. In other words, an MS-13 assassin has to show ID to vote in his home country of El Salvador… but not in Rhode Island.

Come to think of it, Canada has a strict voter ID law as well. Which makes America the only country in North and South America where we don’t have a national voter ID law. That’s such a glaring weakness that it’s obviously how Putin is hacking our democracy. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

We need secure voter ID and paper  📝 ballots to assure our elections from foreign interference and democrat cheating.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3  Split Personality    4 years ago

The only idiots are the ones who believe voter registration & ID laws protect us from the misinformation spread on the internet by foes and allies to manipulate us to vote in their international interests instead of our own interests.

Perhaps we should order FB, Twitter et.al., to close down international access for 6 months prior to a national election

to limit our naive, self inflicted partisanship.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @3    4 years ago
Perhaps we should order FB, Twitter et.al., to close down international access for 6 months prior to a national election

In violation of the First Amendment?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    4 years ago

The left only wants those companies o shut down Christian and conservative speech on them using the SPLC to be their board of censors for them.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    4 years ago

Do you really believe that?

Do foreign nationals posting from offshore on our social media  have the same protection under the first amendment as you and I?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.2    4 years ago

Hey, I am not the one calling for censorship. That is you.

Is it because some folks are scared to hear something they don't like?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.3    4 years ago

Hmm, didn't Mueller try to indict 13 of them?  Seems someone thought they were doing something nefarious.

But the indictments were as Phyricc as the impeachment I presume.

Do you think those same 13 Ruskies have standing to sue in a US court to force us to listen to acknowledged commie propaganda?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.4    4 years ago

But not the censorship of Americans if that makes a difference.

Build a big electronic wall around us to keep out the fake news as it were.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.6    4 years ago

Which would do nothing to eradicate fake news within the US.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.8  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.7    4 years ago

Really? Nothing?

You can't eradicate roaches, flies or ants either, but that doesn't mean you don't try your damnedest to keep them out of your

home or place of business.  Right?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @3.1.8    4 years ago

crickets?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @3    4 years ago

Virtually every other democracy in Europe and the America’s has strict voter ID.  The only reason we don’t have it is so that democrats can cheat.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2    4 years ago
Virtually every other democracy in Europe and the America’s has strict voter ID.

I have been registered to vote every where I have owned homes in both red & blue states and always had to present ID and match signatures from the late 60's forward.  Wholesale voter fraud is a myth.

The only reason we don’t have it is so that democrats can cheat.  

I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.2.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2    4 years ago

Republicans are suppressing votes and trying to remake the electorate to win in states like Georgia and N. Dakota.  Republican politicians across the country are scared for their jobs, but instead of coming up with policy proposals to win over more voters, they’re trying to rig our elections. In Georgia, Secretary of State Brian Kemp is holding hostage over 53,000 voter registrations, more than 80 percent of them belonging to people of color. He is refusing to fully process them before the election — an election in which he is seeking a promotion to become governor.

USA Today

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.4    4 years ago
And what do you present as valid identification? 

I always carry a passport or the passport card, retired military ID, and a drivers license. All Texas requires is that the name match exactly what is on the voter card ( new orange card this year, I think they change colors every two years, last yer yellow, prior years blue? ).

And if you're unaware, there are in fact several states that are issuing drivers licenses to illegal alien invaders.

Yes I am aware that the drivers licenses are different in those states and not valid ID for voting, possibly not acceptable for flying either.

It's a state's rights issue. period.

Still doesn't prove voter fraud, only the minuscule opportunities for attempted voter fraud.

But, how can illegal registration and voting actually be determined when those very same states refuse to cooperate with the federal governments to attempt clean up and validate voter rolls.

What did I miss?  Which "same states"?  Can you name them again please?

Would you like to overturn the 10th Amendment which affirms federalism and the states rights?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.2    4 years ago

Big city  urban area democrats have cheated n elections since the late 19th century at least and it has never stopped.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.7  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.6    4 years ago

Prove it with links and court convictions please,

and not just the one or two that we see here in Texas every year for both parties.

Find me the red meat that proves it's only Democrats

or take back you silly partisan opinion.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.10  Split Personality  replied to    4 years ago

 
 
 
lib50
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3.2.11  lib50  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.6    4 years ago

What a lie.  STOP LYING.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.2.12  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  lib50 @3.2.11    4 years ago

Good luck with that.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    4 years ago
What was hacked? What was interfered with?

Nothing. We're talking about speech. Is that speech a lot of fake news and propaganda? Sure. But it's still speech. That kind of thing can come from Russians or it can come from Americans. In the land of the 1st Amendment, what exactly is it that people think we are supposed to do about that?

As for the elections themselves, they have functioned as intended. Everyone eligible to vote still gets to vote. Their vote gets counted. Candidates win elections legally. So-called "Russian interference" hasn't changed that.

I think Democratic politicians and leftist news media should stop talking as if that Russian interference has actually impacted the mechanics of our elections. If you want to talk about fake news and propaganda, I think that is a great example, and it's coming from Americans who should know better.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @4    4 years ago

I frequently see conservatives losing their minds over some supposed "propaganda" being spread by a source they have deemed "Un-American" such as George Soros. I often hear them proclaiming that "so-and-so" or "such-and-such" left wing group "this or that" is behind some story and thus shouldn't be believed due to the biased source. I find it rather amusing but ultimately sad that these same conservatives don't seem to be bothered in the least when it's propaganda being illicitly spread by Russian operatives at the behest of a murderous dictator who has assassinated journalists, dissenters, defectors and political opponents and forcibly taken over Russian news outlets turning them into State controlled media outlets. Hypocrisy at its finest.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    4 years ago

It depends on what the reactions and proposed remedies are. If it’s limited to an opinion that speech is wrong or untruthful, I think that’s fine. We cross a line when we start talking about controlling the speech as opposed to rebutting it with argument.

What has gone on with Russia, though, is all sorts of extreme. Not only are we talking about taking steps to limit the speech - through government or corporate control. We are also talking about criminal prosecutions for being even tangentially associated with it. Furthermore, we are trying to convince people that somehow their actual vote is being stolen from them. All of that is wildly divorced from reality.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @4.1.1    4 years ago
We cross a line when we start talking about controlling the speech as opposed to rebutting it with argument.

There is no line crossed by exposing foreign government surreptitious attempts to inject their own propaganda into our national discourse. They were actively attempting to hide the sources from which the marketing campaign for dishonest Donald and against Hillary were coming from. They illegally hacked private US citizens and illegally released documents and emails publicly with the intent to hurt one political party and benefit the other who they saw as better for them financially and politically. If the media companies who allowed them such a platform to disseminate their misinformation under the guise of being domestic complaints want to refuse or reject such attempts in the future that is not in ANY way "controlling free speech".

we are trying to convince people that somehow their actual vote is being stolen from them

There were certainly a number of people who bought the scam stories and misinformation produced by Russia. There were many here who wanted desperately to believe in the bullshit Seth Rich assassination story and even the pizza parlor sex ring nonsense that a Trump sycophant even showed up armed with an assault rifle because it was apparently so fucking easy to brainwash these willing morons desperate to believe anything negative about those they saw as political adversaries. So no, the votes were not "stolen", but their ability to access information free of Russian propaganda disguised as religious conservatism has been.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
4.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.2    4 years ago
There is no line crossed by exposing foreign government surreptitious attempts to inject their own propaganda into our national discourse.

Agreed. I didn’t say anything about “exposing” speech. I said “controlling” speech. If you want to point at Russian ads or Twitter posts and say “everybody look at what those dicks are up to now,” go right ahead. I support that.

They illegally hacked

Obviously, I’m not going to defend criminal activity like that. However, politicians who are exposed by truthful - albeit hacked - information need a better response for voters than to hide behind “they illegally hacked my server” if the released information is still true. That would be the case no matter what party they belonged to. Nobody gave a shit about secret recordings, texts, or emails, of Trump or Romney or any other Republican. But if someone goes after Clinton or Biden, then it’s “interference in an election” and the content released should be ignored.

There were certainly a number of people who bought the scam stories and misinformation produced by Russia.

Well, of course they did. People also buy the bullshit American politicians and media pundits tell them. They buy the bullshit that liberal academics and Hollywood elites are selling. Voters have to wade through waves of bullshit and make up their own minds. You know what happens? Instead of rationally balancing true information and prioritizing the issues, they vote for their party. Or they vote based on skin color or sex. They might vote for the best speaker. Or the best looking candidate. That’s the risk you take giving ordinary people the vote. A person can be wise, but people are idiots.

However, if you actually value democracy and free speech, you’re going to have to put up with speech that frustrates you even though it’s bullshit, and accept that people will cast votes for reasons you think are stupid.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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5  It Is ME    4 years ago

Anytime you see Nancy holding anything with stars and stripes on it, she looks like she's gonna BARF !

 
 

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