Pelosi holds American Workers Hostage
The cheap democrat stunt we watched being perpetrated on the US Senate has reached fruition. Chuck Schumer defeated the Senate Rescue Bill just in time for House Speaker to return and miraculously unveil her plan. Believe it or not it's called the "Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act.”
The plan's major details have been published courtesy of Yahoo/Bloomberg News:
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unveiled a $2.5 trillion, 1,400-page virus stimulus bill in a bid to shape talks on a rival Senate GOP bill that remained stalled on Monday.
The Pelosi bill has broad implications for the financial sector. It would force lenders to grant a temporary reprieve from mortgage and car payments and credit card bills, and order the Federal Reserve to provide loan servicers with liquidity to give borrowers to stop paying their mortgages for up to 360 days.
Public housing residents would also temporarily not have to pay their rent, and student loan borrowers would also have $10,000 of debt forgiven.
Negative consumer credit reporting would be halted and foreclosures and evictions would be banned.
There are currently no plans for House members to return to Washington to vote on the bill, which appears to be a list of demands Democrats want to see included in the Senate measure. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer have been negotiating behind closed doors all day Monday searching for a compromise.
According to an official summary of the House bill, individuals including the retired and the unemployed would receive $1,500, compared with $1,200 in the Senate bill. The House proposal would also create a $600 per week payment for any worker laid off or for self-employed people who have lost contracts due to the pandemic.
The legislation would also authorize the Federal Reserve to purchase state and local government bonds intended to fight the coronavirus outbreak, would send $60 billion to schools and universities , and would relieve student debt.
The bill would create a national requirement for states to allow early voting and voting by mail in cases of national emergency.
The House measure would fund hospitals’ virus response and would call for the president to use the Defense Production Act to shore up critical supplies. It would also increase funds for schools, food assistance and to help states expand early and absentee voting, according to a statement from Pelosi’s office."
https://news.yahoo.com/senate-set-more-showdown-votes-100000837.html
These are but a few of the demands the House bill will contain. I emphasized in bold the egregious aspects that are part of a political agenda.
Here is the Bill:
https://appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/Take%20Responsibility%20for%20Workers%20and%20Families%20Act%20summary.pdf
Tucker Carlson is reporting the 1,400 page bill contains all kinds of radical and race based demands. One needs to read through it carefully. There are as I say 1,400 pages. I will update this article as I read through it.
The Treasury Secretary has earned his pay these past few weeks, but I have a feeling that Pelosi is going to ram this progressive wish list right down the throat of the US Senate.
PHOTO: Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin walks to the meeting with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer during negotiations on a coronavirus disease (COVID-19) relief package on Capitol in Washington, March 23, 2020. (Joshua Roberts/Reuters)
So the real game begins. How long before out-of-work Americans and closed down businesses reach the breaking point?
Nancy is waiting.....Take it or suffer!
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Trump is off topic
After the presumed compromise(s), who gets to sign the legislation with great fanfare?
President off Topic?
and THAT is what the left fears the most huh?
"trump doing his job and getting credit for doing his job is outrageous..... OMG the horrors... lets put something in the bill like carbon neutral airlines by 2025 so trump won't sign it and then it is his fault"
we have seen this game before.
Yup!
The topic is the official handling of our lives & the economic stability of the US like a hostage negotiation.
Except according to the legislation linked in the article, there is NOTHING about 'solar energy tax credits' an the 'new emission standards for airlines' are ONLY for those that take bailout funds.
Yet neither the author or the seeder states WHY those things in bold are 'egregious aspects".
WTF is the issue with the provisions below? Be specific.
So, in other words if it isn't mentioned in the first 65 pages you want us to pretend it's not there?
Yet neither the author or the seeder states WHY those things in bold are 'egregious aspects".
Then you ignored my comments at the bottom of each post.
You tell me
How does bailing out the postal service save lives?
How does ballot harvesting help a family pay rent?
How does regulating airplane emissions help a small business owner keep her doors open?
How does sending $60 Billion to schools & Universities with large endowments and who have saddled our kids with debt help defeat the virus?
How does enabling the type of voting that dems believe helps them alleviate the crisis?
No Vic, I want you to PROVE that it's ANYWHERE in the bill. Please proceed.
Nope, I've read your comments Vic. None of them address why you think that funds for schools and universities are an 'egregious'.
I address your BS about the voting provisions by replying to your hilarious comment about them.
Iv'e already gone to the trouble of posting egregious parts of the Bill complete with page number and commentary.
Nope, I've read your comments Vic. None of them address why you think that funds for schools and universities are an 'egregious'.
Reread post # 1.1.6. It's right there above your comment.
I address your BS about the voting provisions by replying to your hilarious comment about them.
You addressed my logical complaints in your usual manner - like a holocaust denier!
Yet you STILL have NOT explained WHY you think that the SPECIFIC funding for schools and universities are on your list.
That's all you deflecting Vic. WHY do you expect me to answer your questions when you do not answer mine?
How the fuck is it 'logical' to assume that ensuring voting during a national emergency will benefit the Democratic Party Vic?
Wow!
2. No taunting or bullying
Taunting is purposely trying to anger another member. Bullying is forcing oneself on another member by being personally offensive, abusive, threatening or harassing.
I thought I had. I expect that a reasonable person would accept that heavily endowed schools who have over charged our children to attend don't deserve any government assistance. I wonder why the left wants to keep sending them tax payer money?
That's all you deflecting Vic. WHY do you expect me to answer your questions when you do not answer mine?
You don't accept the answers I give. What are we to do?
How the fuck is it 'logical' to assume that ensuring voting during a national emergency will benefit the Democratic Party Vic?
That seems to be Pelosi's belief. You may want to take it up with her.
Wow!
Well you've taken on some fairly tough cases. You don't want me to remind everyone, do you?
You JUST admitted that you had NOT answered my question Vic. Just stop.
None that would justify you implying that I am like holocaust denier Vic.
As for reminding anyone of anything, just link the comment that I made in THIS seed, in THIS topic that you deem as a 'tough case'.
If you have an issue with one of my comments in ANOTHER seed, go there and address it.
Perhaps I should since this Pelosi crisis seems to be over. You may want to look at post # 19.
I'm closing this and opening the new article on Pelosi backing down.
Well if two weeks is going to break the bank, maybe those businesses shouldn't be around.
Australia shuts down the whole country for xmas holiday; recommended 2 weeks, but one week mandatory and doesn't suffer any problems because it's cultural.
Surely most Americans can go on vacation or forced holiday for 2 weeks?
Where is your compassion?
Surely most Americans can go on vacation or forced holiday for 2 weeks?
Lol
my compassion followed the $$ running out of my 401K for the last two weeks.
lol...
The markets will come back and so will your 401K.
Considering there are many Americans who don't have $400 reserve lying around, how do they afford a forced holiday? Not everybody gets paid vacation time, not every business can pay it's employees if the doors are closed. This just seems like the wrong time to be pushing a political agenda. You can bitch all you want about what caused people not being able to afford a surprise $400 bill but that doesn't change the here and now.
What the...?
Let everyone go to back work, wear a mask and gloves if necessary and take their chances until a reliable
FDA vaccine is approved. Easy.
We will all get this eventually, either from another person or a vaccine.
Nope, that's not anywhere close to what I intended my note to say. This article is talking about the added pork in the new bill. My position on this is that this stimulus bill should only be about helping the economy directly impacted by the Covid-19 virus. There should not be any political party crap tossed in to make points from either side.
And they PLAN AHEAD for it. Do you really think that small businesses have huge profit margins that can suddenly handle mandatory shutdowns and remain solvent?
these politicians on the left are simply unbelievable.
as everyone is home social distancing and not working... everyone is watching this one with both eyes open.
another couple million democrats are going to decide they are independents.
there is no way the dems keep the senate next election. not a chance.
A - i don't really care about student debt.
B- you're seriously opposed to having a national voting alternative in case of a national emergency?
So what happens if "we all" go back to work and the second wave comes as predicted prior to the national election?
Are you seriously going to be opposed to earlier voting or voting by mail in lieu of canceling the election?
I'm fairly sure that can be debated a later time, like maybe after this bill is passed
*require airlines to go carbon neutral for domestic flights by 2025 -
explain how is this even related to the current emergency?
the left knows they cant pass their carbon neutral bs unless they hijack an emergency funding bill to do it.
they say don't interrupt your enemy when they are committing suicide.
russia russia russia, the impeachment hoax, and now this?
ya know what, just for fun write these words down.
historical blowout
you will see those words again in the news after trump is re-elected
Why ask me? I don't suggest it or support it but I suppose it's more political gamesmanship that someone can use to appease the Sander's crowd.
I suspect it will be left on the editing room floor where it belongs.
exactly,
and that gamesmanship by the democrats is holding up emergency legislation during a national crisis when everyone is stuck at home with nothing better to do but follow whats going on. ... well, they have something to watch now... LOL
seriously, has pelosi and crew decided to completely burn down the DNC before the election?
The games are deep and many.
Interpretation: He knew the GoP Senate Bill was DOA - he just wants to make Schumer and all look bad to a certain constituency, before compromising by Wednesday as a hero.
Geez on Sunday Chuck was Donald's best new friend. How long did that last?
Exactly. What about the $$$ for Obamaphones? What about the $35M they appropriated for the JFK Kennedy Center for the Arts and other HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS for unrelated COVID-19 issues?
YEP!
Why not just go to voter harvesting like they have in CA?/s
We could grab about 200 ballots go out with them in the morning and come back at night with 200 democratic votes! Trust those wonderful community organizers!/s
Yep. 9th Congressional District taught us all that..................
Then SERIOUSLY oppose it Vic. Posting sarcasm doesn't achieve that. Please cite your reason to opposing early voting and voting by mail in a national emergency?
First off I'm opposed to it being in an emergency aid Bill. If democrats can't get legislation to pass on the merits, they shouldn't be attaching such legislation to a Bill we all know has to pass for the nation.
Therefore, although I shouldn't be allowing you another rabbit hole on one of my seeds, I'm going to give you one example of what is wrong with it - from the democratic primaries:
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If not, it's hard to see a point in your complaint.
The more people that vote, the more likely it is the GOP loses. Ergo, Republicans have been trying to hold down the vote for many years now.
My point, John, is that democrats believe that and thus, the reason the voting legislation was added to this Bill.
The unseen GoP plan was 1.8 trillion
The largely unseen Dem plan is 2.5 trillion
Talk about a socialist country...
They will meet somewhere in the middle and piss away another 2 trillion dollars.
Socialism has nothing to do with this.-----------------THIS is yet another result and failure of Supply Side Economics. Of course that is dependent upon how you view it. SSE moves the money upward. THIS also is going to move the money upward. We are talking a lot of money and 'some circles', as they always do, don't want any goals, rules or guardrails for that money. A little bit familiar, huh? Like, haven't we been down this road before? More than once?
Pelosi is not holding anybody hostage.
The hostage takers are the GOP and the largest, most profitable corporations that ABSOLUTELY DO NOT want any oversight on the billions of dollars they are anticipating will be printed for them.
It's both parties and they should all be voted out of office.
yepp.
I think anyone that has been there for more than ten yrs should be arrested.... LOL
well... I have dreams too
all kiddin aside, am a big fan of short term limits for all elected officials. there would be much less corruption.
Explain.
Absolutely! A large percentage of them are too old and keep serving for their own greed and personal party loyalty, and the people of the US can go kick rocks until time to vote, then the politicians suddenly loooove the American people. They lie and cheat and use their position for their own personal gain, while the people in their districts suffer and they could care less.
Just like the promise of the stimulus money that Trump says will be sent immediately to help those who are suffering from job loss and illness that will likely turn out to be nothing more than talk as the two sides in congress refuse to accept responsibility to get the money passed through.
Come voting time again I will not vote for any long term incumbent, as none of them have shown any true heart to do their job in the best interest of the American people and our country. They use our country as if it is their private checkbook to use and spend as they please while thumbing their nose at the many urgent things that need taken care of across the country, as well as those who deserve better.
I am proud to be an American, but, I am not proud of our congress. They are a cancer in the heart of our country.
On page 3 :
Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) programs – $300 million, including $100 million for
grants to combat violence against women, $25 million for transitional housing assistance grants,
$100 million for sexual assault victims assistance, $25 million for rural domestic violence and
child abuse enforcement assistance, $25 million for legal assistance for victims, and $25 million
to support families in the justice system.
Byrne Justice Assistance Grants – $1 billion to help prevent, prepare for, and respond to
coronavirus, including for purchasing personal protective equipment. Funds are to be distributed
under the same requirements, conditions, compliance, and certification as 2016, thus preventing
DOJ from blocking any of these funds from going to sanctuary jurisdictions.
Juvenile Justice Programs – $100 million, including $75 million for part B state formula
grants, and $25 million for delinquency prevention grants.
Progressive policies which have nothing to do with the virus!
On page 4 :
Postal Service – $25 billion for revenue forgone due to the coronavirus pandemic.
That's a bailout for an government agency saddled with an insane pension plan - one which the taxpayers should not be paying for!
On page 12 :
$200 million for Project SERV to provide grants to school districts and institutions of
higher education to recover from traumatic events and disruption related to coronavirus;
▪ $9.5 billion to help alleviate burdens associated with the coronavirus for both colleges
and students, including $1.5 billion for Historically Black Colleges and Universities and
Minority Serving Institutions and $8 billion for other institutions of higher education
Minority money?
On page 13 :
Corporation for Public Broadcasting – $300 million in stabilization funding to support public
telecommunication entities.
Corporation for National and Community Service – $250 million to support continued
services and assistance to grantees
Social Security Administration Operating Expenses – $510 million to support the necessary
telework and communication needs, continuing salaries and benefits of Federal employees in
cases of office closures, and to issue emergency assistance payments.
Pork for pet agencies?
On page 15 :
Humanitarian Assistance – $600 million to respond to humanitarian needs arising in countries
coping with a coronavirus disease outbreak.
Provides the Department of State authority to obligate and expend the passport and
immigrant visa security surcharges to cover shortfalls and loss in fee revenue to pay the
costs of providing consular services during fiscal years 2020 and 2021.
This is for other countries?
Most 'consular services' are performed for American citizens in foreign countries.
It says Humanitarian assistance!
Last time I looked, American citizens in foreign countries needed humanitarian assistance too Vic. There are still over 1000 US citizens trying to get home right now. There are US citizens still on cruise ships. There are US military families that want to 'get out of dodge'. Some citizens who have to stay want to send their families home.
Oh, now we are down to American citizens too! So you do admit that it is foreign aid? If not prove that it's not.
On page 44 :
• Requires at least 15 consecutive days of early voting for federal elections. Goes into
effect in the November 2020 election and for each succeeding federal election.
o Requires the early voting period to be no less than 10 hours each day, to have
uniform hours for each day, and to allow for voting prior to 9:00am and after
5:00pm.
o Requires polling places with early voting periods to be located within walking
distance of a stop on a public transportation route and to be available in rural
areas of states.
o Directs the Election Assistance Commission to issue election administration
standards for early voting that include standards for nondiscriminatory geographic
placement of polling places and that permit deviation (provided there is adequate
public notice) in the case of unforeseen circumstances.
o Requires states to begin processing and scanning ballots cast during the early
voting period at least 14 days prior to election day.
• Ensures that every voter can access no-excuse absentee vote-by-mail, postage prepaid
and with a self-sealing envelope. Goes into effect in the November 2020 election and for
each succeeding federal election.
o Prohibits states from imposing additional conditions or requirements on the
eligibility of a voter to cast an absentee ballot such as notarization or witness
signatures, and prohibits requiring identification to obtain an absentee ballot.
o Requires states to conduct signature verification of voters submitting an absentee
ballot with due process protections. Requires election officials to provide voter
with notice and an opportunity to cure if there is a discrepancy in signatures or a
missing signature, and to submit to Congress no later than 120 days after each
federal election cycle a report containing information on invalidated ballots.
o Ensures that every voter can submit an online request for an absentee ballot.
o Requires states to deliver an absentee ballot and related voting materials if a
voter’s request for such materials is received prior to 5 days before election day.
• With respect to the COVID-19 pandemic and all future emergencies declared between
120 days before election day and 30 days before election day, requires states to
automatically mail absentee ballots and balloting materials to all registered voters no later
than two weeks before election day. Requires a voter to sign an affirmation that the voter
has not and will not cast another ballot.
• Provides standards for ballots cast by mail.
o Ensures that absentee ballots and related voting materials are accessible to voters
with disabilities.
All of the above aimed at helping the democratic party!
Doesn't "Pelosi" and crew understand...….THEY ARE THE ONES THAT SHUT DOWN BUSINESS'S......and it's time for Government (The Shutdown Kings and Queens), to "Fund" their "Mandated Shutdown" and do what "Regular Business's" are required to do...… and shell out "Unemployment Bucks" ?
This isn't time to "Pull Pork".
In Pelosi's view it is. It's blackmail and if that package is ever accepted we will in fact have given Obama a third term!
The past 3 years will have been for nothing!
That's hilarious Vic. You just admitted the fear of the GOP that the more people that vote, the better the Democrats will do in the election. A brief moment of clarity and cogency.
To the contrary - That is the belief of Nancy Pelosi. As far as my own view is concerned the democratic party has front loaded identity politics to the extent that they have probably lost white middle working class America forever!
So when you said: All of the above aimed at helping the democratic party!, you were speaking for Nancy Pelosi? Ya right Vic.
Well thanks to the House bill, 'white middle working class Americans' will have the exact same access to voting as everyone else Vic.
As they say in Brooklyn.
It is exactly what I'm saying!
Well thanks to the House bill, 'white middle working class Americans' will have the exact same access to voting as everyone else Vic.
Oh, that's so reassuring! I'm sure the clingers & deplorables are excited about having it attached to an emergency aid Bill!
On page 46 :
Sec. 120006. Voter Registration.
• Amends the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 to ensure that voters can register to
vote online and can submit an EAC-prescribed mail voter registration application online.
o Requires states to establish technological security measures to protect information
provided through online voter registration services.
o Ensures that online voter registrations services are available to individuals with
disabilities.
o Ensures that online voter registration services are also available through the use of
an automated telephone-based system.
• Amends the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to ensure that all eligible individuals can
register to vote on the same day that they vote. Goes into effect in the November 2020
election and for each succeeding federal election.
• Amends the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 to prohibit states from requiring
voter registration applicants to provide more than the last 4 digits of their social security
numbers. Goes into effect in the November 2020 election and for each succeeding federal
election.
That's about 3 pages on getting the vote out early & easy
On page 47 :
Sec. 140001. Elimination of Postal Service Debt, Additional Borrowing Authority. This
section would eliminate the current debt of the Postal Service. This would reset the Postal
Service’s borrowing authority to the level in current law—$15 billion—by eliminating its current
$11 billion debt to the Department of Treasury. The proposal would require Treasury to lend to
the Postal Service if requested and eliminate the $3 billion annual borrowing limit in current law.
The Postal Service has indicated that this money will likely be required to continue operations
during the crisis through the end of the fiscal year
Holy Shit!
On page 50 :
Sec. 2. Findings. Federal employee unions protect the rights of federal workers, and collective
bargaining is essential to the union process. Congress has declared that “labor organizations and
collective bargaining in the civil service are in the public interest.” Yet, the Administration has
issued Executive Orders that attempt to dismantle federal unions and undermine their collective
bargaining rights.
Sec. 3. Nullification of Executive Orders Related to Federal Employee Collective
Bargaining.
The following Executive Orders and presidential memorandum are rescinded:
(1) Executive Order 13837 (relating to the use of official time);
(2) Executive Order 13836 (relating to federal collective bargaining);
(3) Executive Order 13839 (relating to the Merit Systems Protection Board);
(4) The Presidential Memorandum on the Delegation of Certain Authority under the
Federal Service Labor-Management Relations Statute, issued to
the Secretary of Defense on January 29, 2020.
The President ought to love that. We will be right back to not being able to fire the lazy slugs at the VA, who neglected our Veterans
Here some more of Pelosi's porkapalooza!
Diversity provisions
The House Democrats' bill requires that any company getting coronavirus-related aid disclose its diversity stats, including its employees' race, gender, pay, corporate board diversity and the structure of its offices that deal with diversity and inclusion.
The reports, which will be made public within a year of the companies accepting federal coronavirus-related assistance, will also include the "number and dollar value invested with minority-and-women owned suppliers ... including professional services (legal and consulting) and asset managers, and deposits and other accounts with minority depository institutions, as compared to all vendor investments."
Post Office bailout
One section of the bill would eliminate $11 billion worth of debt for the U.S. Postal Service -- money that it currently owes to the Treasury Department. It would also require the Treasury to "eliminate the $3 billion annual borrowing limit in current law," according to a summary of the bill released by House Democrats.
Union boosting
In addition to requiring each airline that receives money through the bill to have a union representative on its board, the House Democrats' summary says the bill would nullify a variety of executive orders issued by the Trump administration on collective bargaining.
Environmental provisions
Any airlines that accept assistance from the House Democrats' bill would be forced to "offset their carbon emissions and reduce their overall emissions by 50 percent by 2050." That matches with environmental plans from Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders to have the U.S. reach net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.
The House bill would also expand an FAA program that incentivizes airports to purchase environmentally friendly equipment and create a "cash for clunkers" program -- similar to one created by the Obama administration for cars -- but for older airplanes.
Obamaphones
One section of Pelosi's bill allocates $1 billion and calls for federal authorities to immediately expand the "emergency lifeline broadband benefit" for every household that contains at least one "qualifying low-income consumer." That would include any "mass-market retail service by wire or radio that provides the capability to transmit data to and receive data from all or substantially all Internet endpoints, including any capabilities that are incidental to and enable the operation of the communications service."
That benefit would include cell phones.
The National Republican Congressional Committee said the House bill is "full of unrelated liberal goodies, including the return of the Obamaphone," a program that the Government Accountability Office found was "rife with fraud" according to a Washington Times report at the time.
Newspaper retirement plans
House Democrats' plan, according to its summary, expands a recent law that provides "pension funding relief for a number of community newspaper plan sponsors."
$15 minimum wage for companies accepting assistance
Two different sections in the House Democrats' summary of the bill address minimum wage. One provision would "require corporations that receive any federal assistance" to pay all of its workers at least $15 per hour. In addition to the minimum wage, that same provision includes a ban on golden parachutes, restricted bonuses and compensation for executives, a ban on stock buybacks and a ban on companies changing their collective bargaining agreements.
Release of the Bill's contents had Tucker Carlson reeling!
"Details of the Democratic plan became public on Monday. Huge parts of the proposal have nothing to do with fighting the pandemic we are suffering through. Read it , and you will find disgusting little interest group handouts added by lobbyists.
Worse, the bill is suffused with the cruel bigotry of identity politics. At a time when America so badly, desperately needs to come together, Democrats remain intent on splitting this country into warring tribes. It's shocking." .......Tucker Carlson
This just in:
Pelosi folds, will set aside her virus bill loaded with liberal perks and try to pass Senate version.
As Gen Winfield Scott once said And now maybe the Union can be saved!