Polk County Sheriff Warns Rioters: Don't Take This into Neighborhoods. People Own Guns Here.
By: Matt Vespa | @mvespa1 | Posted: Jun 01, 2020 4:45 PM
I like this guy. 
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In Polk County, Florida, Sheriff Grady Judd issued a stern warning to these troublemakers, noting that people in his jurisdiction like guns, own guns, and will be at home with their guns.
After protests turned to “civil unrest” in parts of Polk County Saturday and Sunday, the county issued a local state of emergency and a curfew Sunday and extended it to Monday at 8 p.m., until 5 a.m. Tuesday.
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Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said there he does not believe Polk County residents were the ones creating problems.
He said there’s a difference between a protester and a rioter and rioting will not be accepted.
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Judd said there were rumblings on social media that rioters planned to bring violence into the neighborhoods of Polk County.
“I would tell them, if you value your life, they probably shouldn’t do that in Polk County. Because the people of Polk County like guns, they have guns, I encourage them to own guns, and they’re going to be in their homes tonight with their guns loaded, and if you try to break into their homes to steal, to set fires, I’m highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with their guns. So, leave the community alone,” Judd said.
The sheriff encouraged anyone wishing to express their first amendment right to free speech to keep the focus on George Floyd, who Judd said was the victim who should be honored.
We need law and order back. President Trump has to put down this mob. And that’s what this has devolved into—a mob. Protest all you want, folks, but when you start looting and setting buildings on fire, the game is over.
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Straight up and to the point !
I believe Biden once said it was OK to just point a shotgun out the back door and fire away with both barrels without looking..
in hopes of scaring them off.
I believe it was during his "Field and Stream" interview back when.
Yeah it was when he was trying to tell everyone they didn't need an evil black gun. That was his reasoning.
What an asshat and he appears to be getting worse
I can't wait to see someone use the "Biden defense" in court for randomly firing their gun.
"I’m highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with their guns."
Pretty stupid to bring a 2x4 to a gun fight.
This gives people a license to kill, the sheriff said it was OK! I can the excuses, "He was walking by my house, I thought he was going to break in", "They were gathered in a group, they looked like they were looters", etc.
Except that's not what he said. He said,
You can't blow someone out of the house if they are only walking by. They need to be in the house already.
Seems like someone is getting upset that a sheriff told the rioters that people in his jurisdiction like guns, have guns, and can use guns to protect themselves and their property.
I seriously don't get why anyone in the world would have a problem with that.
Actually that depends on the state and its laws .
In some states , trespassers just on the property can be shot, here as long as the appropriate signage is in place it can happen and the sign simply has to say no trespassing and be appropriately spaced around the property line. but that usually is a last resort, but comes in handy if someones being a moron.
Yes my property is posted , and the few times I have caught a trespasser , I simply ask them if they were French. When they said no I told them I could have sworn their last name was Dumas.
I get that, and you're right of course. I'm just pointing out the simple logic of what the man actually said. People like to pretend something else was said so they have a stronger moral case for their outrage.
What they don't realize is that most people who own guns - to protect themselves, their families, and their homes - hope they will never be forced to use them.
That particular statement is monumentally false. Why lie about what was actually said?
Only thing I would disagree with the sheriff on is to blow them right back out the door , I want blood spatter a good foot inside the door to prove they were INSIDE, where they had no right to be in the first place, evidence will speak for itself.
I was going to say something similar.
If any rioters want to come by my house i will leave the door open for them. Just walk right through, no need to break any windows. Just make sure you have said all your goodbyes first....
A elected law enforcement official with the cajones to stand up for what is right! We need a lot more of them to speak up! A far cry from that idiot liberal sherriff in another state that decided to join and walk with the protesters and rioters.
Yes , a sherriff is the highest law enforcement person that is actually elected to hold that position , by the constituency so of course their views will also tend to reflect the will of the voters , and if not it will be shown come re election time .
Now the sherriff that worked WITH the protesters in my opinion did exactly the right thing for the people he serves , and let it be known that he and his officers are NOT part of the group who would take actions simply because of the color of a persons skin , he took his oath to support the constitution seriously and to apply it the same across the board , and I think in doing what he did , he turned an very contaversial and potentially adversarial and possably violent situation , into one that those that elected him feel that HE at least thinks the same as they do , What I noticed was the protest , was turned into a parade , and was peaceful ,and their voices were heard , without violence And that was a good thing..
Now....If he did that at night, I'd be impressed.
The Day Shift isn't as bad as the Night Shift !
I agree, he diffused a situation and let them know he heard their grievances. And surprisingly They have not had any mass looting and riots in his city of Flint that is a cesspool of crime. I also feel this is a anomaly though but he put forth the effort and it worked.
The Sheriff was in Genesee County (Flint) Michigan. He asked the leadership of the real protestors to either restrain the rioter types or to report them to him or his deputies and then he stood by in case they needed his help. They did; there was no riot in Flint that night. Each cop needs to have his own methods to accomplish the job. His wasn't bad. The trick is to break the protest group into two groups, real protestors and rioters. Real protestors usually don't want violence. They just want to get their message across and are willing to follow someone they trust. He showed them that he, and most good cops, despise dirty cops just as much as they do, probably more.
To deal with the rioters, when they don't listen to the honest protestors, you need a different tone. Use overwhelming force, confine them to a small area and, when they are caught committing violent acts, give them a simple choice; surrender and go to jail or resist and die on the spot. The rioters and thieves maybe too fanatical or too stupid to understand reasoning for the best result, but they are smart enough to understand the difference between jail and death. Unless they're total Kamikaze types (some might be), they will probably choose jail.
Exactly. It's an honorable civil rights struggle when the sun is up but at night it's unemployed lawyers throwing firebombs - for fun.
Police marching with actual protesters has been happening all over suburban and rural America.
Did anyone notice....Since Trumps "proclamation of using the Military".... things don't seem to be as bad as they were ?
Seems this has a far reaching affect............kudos to this guy..⇓⇓
I saw the reports on that.
Big difference between rioters and looters all evening
and an organized burglary at 4:15AM EST.
Firing Line is a favorite for Philadelphia, Delaware, Chester, Montgomery and Bucks County law enforcement.
Whoever tried to break in were idiots.
Possibly only thought to be a good idea with all the unrest.........¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I thought it was a pawn shop, not an indoor shooting range that the incident happened at.
Different story from Minneapolis - which probably had some implications in Philly.
In Minneapolis the pawn shop owner killed the looter as he tried to break in - the victim was found outside on the sidewalk and the owner was arrested for murder/manslaughter etc.
In Philly the owner watched them use bolt cutters on the parking lot gate, the main entrance gate and then as they broke through the back door. He has not yet been charged.
It's the quiet dog you really need to be concerned about not the loud barking one. They let you get deep into the house and then attack. You're toast then.
Good advise for anyone dealing with looters.
That said i doubt there is a jury on earth that's going to throw the book at this guy if its proven the looter was really trying to break in.
A lot depends on state laws , what the law allows as far as acceptable self defense or defense of property , and as we all know each state is vastly different.
The law in MN is that you cannot shoot/kill a looter. The exception to that is if you feel your life is in danger. He shot the guy when the looter was still outside the building.
sounds like Mn has a duty to retreat statute , meaning one has to retreat to safety, basically one has to be literally cornered with no way to escape before one can use deadly force..
In Michigan it requires that the looter only be PROVEN to be trying to break into your home or business to remove a person or property.
A much more property owner friendly law than what Minnesota apparently has.
Not quite, Mark. In speaking with my cuz who is a lawyer in Minneapolis you cannot shoot a looter to protect property. You cannot shoot a looter if he has no weapon and is coming at you. You can shoot a looter if he has a weapon and the weapon need not be a gun and you feel that your life is in danger
sounds like there is a lot of GRAY area there , hands and feet could be considered weapons and just as deadly as any other weapon, this is where I would rather be judged by 12 , than carried by 6 comes in .
Yup, there is a lot of gray area. If he had shot the looter inside his store there probably wouldn't be any charges.
Have you ever been hit with rock salt? I have and damn it isn't pretty.
Hell yeah I have. that was the last time I trespassed hunting on that farmers land.
I made some rock salt loads for my 4/10, The girls never had to use it.
He will have a weapon when he reaches you.
In my younger years yes , whilst skinny dipping in a private pond , I was told the scream could be heard from underwater for 50 yards.....I will not go into detail of where I was impacted while diving out of sight....
If he was involved, he was committing a felony, as a result of which someone died. That makes it a Felony Murder (First Degree Murder) that he's facing, even if he may not have been carrying a weapon and certainly did not personally kill his partner in crime and the store owner was acting in self defense. The same would hold true for someone who didn't even go into the store but waited to drive the getaway car. Felony Murder is one of those little pitfalls that really make it hard for a robber to make a dishonest dollar these days, especially in States like Texas where First Degree Murderers get a needle in the arm, whether they actually pulled the trigger or not.
Time tends to slow down in certain circumstances.
Luckily I cut through those fields often enough that the cows followed me expecting cubes or apples.
So the trick was to stay close to the cows
the fool fired anyway
and I saw approaching rock salt as if it was in slow motion as I ducked under a cow.
He was mad as hell, but not nearly as mad as the cow who got hit and chased him to the tree line.
I considered it as an impetus to get my drivers license asap.
My two brothers and I decided to raid our grandfather's pumpkin patch. Gramps was damn sneaky and was well hidden when we showed up. I was bending down to get a pumpkin when I heard the blast and the next thing I knew my ass was on fire...
We raced home and of course, my dad knew what had happened and was pulling rock salt out of our asses. The next day Gramps came by and was telling our dad that he had caught three thieves in his patch and had let loose with both barrels. Don't think them boys will be back for a while he said, drinking his black water medicine (coffee) of course dad was trying his best to keep a straight face and ever time we tried to sneak out of the room dad would say, boys you have to hear this. Good thing you don't steal from anyone. Gramps never caught on it was his three beloved grandsons, at least I don't think that he did. But then again..........
I bet he knew. I’ll take old age and treachery over youth any day.
In other parts of the country, the owner probably would have been arrested, charged, and tried for manslaughter as well as had a civil wrongful death suit brought on the scumbag perps family. Knowing that part of the country, the civil suit could still be a possibility.
Thank for the clarification.
I think it happens in all parts of the country. Years ago (CA) we had a great little theater which was a Mom And Pop one. A kid decided to break in one night from the roof. He fell through and was seriously injured. He sued the owners and won. Now the only memory of it is in a scene from Teen Wolf.