Polk County Sheriff Warns Rioters: Don't Take This into Neighborhoods. People Own Guns Here.

  
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By:   Matt Vespa | @mvespa1 | Posted: Jun 01, 2020 4:45 PM

Polk County Sheriff Warns Rioters: Don't Take This into Neighborhoods. People Own Guns Here.
"leave the community alone"

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In Polk County, Florida, Sheriff Grady Judd issued a stern warning to these troublemakers, noting that people in his jurisdiction like guns, own guns, and will be at home with their guns.

After protests turned to “civil unrest” in parts of Polk County Saturday and Sunday, the county issued a local state of emergency and a curfew Sunday and extended it to Monday at 8 p.m., until 5 a.m. Tuesday.
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Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said there he does not believe Polk County residents were the ones creating problems.
He said there’s a difference between a protester and a rioter and rioting will not be accepted.
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Judd said there were rumblings on social media that rioters planned to bring violence into the neighborhoods of Polk County.
“I would tell them, if you value your life, they probably shouldn’t do that in Polk County. Because the people of Polk County like guns, they have guns, I encourage them to own guns, and they’re going to be in their homes tonight with their guns loaded, and if you try to break into their homes to steal, to set fires, I’m highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with their guns. So, leave the community alone,” Judd said.
The sheriff encouraged anyone wishing to express their first amendment right to free speech to keep the focus on George Floyd, who Judd said was the victim who should be honored.

We need law and order back. President Trump has to put down this mob. And that’s what this has devolved into—a mob. Protest all you want, folks, but when you start looting and setting buildings on fire, the game is over. 


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It Is ME
1  seeder  It Is ME    2 months ago

Straight up and to the point !

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  It Is ME @1    2 months ago

I believe Biden once said it was OK to just point a shotgun out the back door and fire away with both barrels without looking..

in hopes of scaring them off.

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.1.1  seeder  It Is ME  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 months ago

I believe it was during his "Field and Stream" interview back when.

 
 
 
Sparty On
1.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  It Is ME @1.1.1    2 months ago

Yeah it was when he was trying to tell everyone they didn't need an evil black gun.   That was his reasoning.

What an asshat and he appears to be getting worse

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 months ago

I can't wait to see someone use the "Biden defense" in court for randomly firing their gun.

 
 
 
squiggy
2  squiggy    2 months ago

"I’m highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with their guns."

Pretty stupid to bring a 2x4 to a gun fight.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3  XDm9mm    2 months ago

Oh how I hope they don't heed his advice.

 
 
 
Dragon
4  Dragon    2 months ago

This gives people a license to kill, the sheriff said it was OK! I can the excuses, "He was walking by my house, I thought he was going to break in", "They were gathered in a group, they looked like they were looters", etc. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Dragon @4    2 months ago
This gives people a license to kill, the sheriff said it was OK! I can the excuses, "He was walking by my house, I thought he was going to break in", "They were gathered in a group, they looked like they were looters", etc. 

I guess you missed this salient point he made;

and if you try to break into their homes to steal, to set fires,

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1    2 months ago
and if you try to break into their homes to steal, to set fires,

Ain't nothing quite like the truth, eh?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.1    2 months ago
Ain't nothing quite like the truth, eh?

Truth is anathema to many.  It's a word they never learned nor understand.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.3  seeder  It Is ME  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1    2 months ago

This point of Judd's apparently was missed also:

" The sheriff encouraged anyone wishing to express their first amendment right to free speech to keep the focus on George Floyd , who Judd said was the victim who should be honored."

Doesn't seem to be the case in the places we watch on TV. It better be the case in "Polk County" though. jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dragon
4.1.4  Dragon  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1    2 months ago

Really!!! We have seen time and time again where someone was shot based on assumptions, based on fear, NOT based on any concert evidence, especially black Americans. It doesn't take much for who is already paranoid, already frightened, to act out of those feelings. And please don't say you don't know it is true, take a minute to research it. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
4.1.5  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Dragon @4.1.4    2 months ago

And your solution is to let those bent on violence and destruction do as they wish? good luck with that.

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.2  Tacos!  replied to  Dragon @4    2 months ago
"He was walking by my house, I thought he was going to break in",

Except that's not what he said. He said,

I’m highly recommending they blow you back out of the house

You can't blow someone out of the house if they are only walking by. They need to be in the house already.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @4.2    2 months ago

Seems like someone is getting upset that a sheriff told the rioters that people in his jurisdiction like guns, have guns, and can use guns to protect themselves and their property.

I seriously don't get why anyone in the world would have a problem with that.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
4.2.2  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Tacos! @4.2    2 months ago
You can't blow someone out of the house if they are only walking by. They need to be in the house already.

Actually that depends on the state and its laws .

In some states , trespassers just on the property can be shot, here as long as the appropriate signage is in place it can happen  and the sign simply has to say no trespassing and be appropriately spaced around the property line. but that usually is a last resort, but comes in handy if someones being a moron.

Yes my property is posted , and the few times I have caught a trespasser , I simply ask them if they were French. When they said no I told them I could have sworn their last name was Dumas.

 
 
 
Tacos!
4.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @4.2.2    2 months ago
Actually that depends on the state and its laws

I get that, and you're right of course. I'm just pointing out the simple logic of what the man actually said. People like to pretend something else was said so they have a stronger moral case for their outrage.

What they don't realize is that most people who own guns - to protect themselves, their families, and their homes - hope they will never be forced to use them.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.3  Texan1211  replied to  Dragon @4    2 months ago
This gives people a license to kill, the sheriff said it was OK! 

That particular statement is monumentally false. Why lie about what was actually said?

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
5  Mark in Wyoming    2 months ago

Only thing I would disagree with the sheriff on is to blow them right back out the door , I want blood spatter a good foot inside the door to prove they were INSIDE, where they had no right to be in the first place, evidence will speak for itself.

 
 
 
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5.1    replied to  Mark in Wyoming @5    2 months ago

I was going to say something similar.

If any rioters want to come by my house i will leave the door open for them. Just walk right through, no need to break any windows. Just make sure you have said all your goodbyes first....

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
6  Ed-NavDoc    2 months ago

A elected law enforcement  official with the cajones to stand up for what is right!  We need a lot more of them to speak up!  A far cry from that idiot liberal sherriff in another state that decided to join and walk with the protesters and rioters.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
6.1  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @6    2 months ago

Yes , a sherriff is the highest law enforcement person that is actually elected to hold that position , by the constituency so of course their views will also tend to reflect the will of the voters , and if not it will be shown come re election time . 

 Now the sherriff that worked WITH the protesters in my opinion did exactly the right thing for the people he serves , and let it be known that he and his officers are NOT part of the group who would take actions simply because of the color of a persons skin , he took his oath to support the constitution seriously and to apply it the same across the board , and I think in doing what he did , he turned an very contaversial and potentially adversarial and possably violent situation , into one that those that elected him feel that HE at least thinks the same as they do ,  What I noticed was the protest , was turned into a parade , and was peaceful ,and their voices were heard , without violence  And that was a good thing..

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.1  seeder  It Is ME  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @6.1    2 months ago
What I noticed was the protest , was turned into a parade , and was peaceful ,and their voices were heard , without violence  And that was a good thing..

Now....If he did that at night, I'd be impressed.

The Day Shift isn't as bad as the Night Shift !

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.2  KDMichigan  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @6.1    2 months ago

I agree, he diffused a situation and let them know he heard their grievances. And surprisingly They have not had any mass looting and riots in his city of Flint that is a cesspool of crime. I also feel this is a anomaly though but he put forth the effort and it worked.

 
 
 
TTGA
6.1.3  TTGA  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.1    2 months ago
Now....If he did that at night, I'd be impressed.

The Sheriff was in Genesee County (Flint) Michigan.  He asked the leadership of the real protestors to either restrain the rioter types or to report them to him or his deputies and then he stood by in case they needed his help.  They did; there was no riot in Flint that night.  Each cop needs to have his own methods to accomplish the job.  His wasn't bad.  The trick is to break the protest group into two groups, real protestors and rioters.  Real protestors usually don't want violence.  They just want to get their message across and are willing to follow someone they trust.  He showed them that he, and most good cops, despise dirty cops just as much as they do, probably more. 

To deal with the rioters, when they don't listen to the honest protestors, you need a different tone.  Use overwhelming force, confine them to a small area and, when they are caught committing violent acts, give them a simple choice; surrender and go to jail or resist and die on the spot. The rioters and thieves maybe too fanatical or too stupid to understand reasoning for the best result, but they are smart enough to understand the difference between jail and death.  Unless they're total Kamikaze types (some might be), they will probably choose jail.

 
 
 
squiggy
6.1.4  squiggy  replied to  It Is ME @6.1.1    2 months ago
The Day Shift isn't as bad as the Night Shift !

Exactly. It's an honorable civil rights struggle when the sun is up but at night it's unemployed lawyers throwing firebombs - for fun.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.5  MAGA  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.2    2 months ago

Police marching with actual protesters  has been happening all over suburban and rural America.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.1.6  seeder  It Is ME  replied to  squiggy @6.1.4    2 months ago
It's an honorable civil rights struggle when the sun is up but at night it's unemployed lawyers throwing firebombs - for fun.

Did anyone notice....Since Trumps "proclamation of using the Military".... things don't seem to be as bad as they were ?

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
7  Release The Kraken    2 months ago

Far left-wing domestic violence strikes again. What a heartbreaking story.

It won't be long and states will be forced to issue hunting tags for commies.

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1  Sparty On  replied to  Release The Kraken @7    2 months ago

Already have one for terrorists so i should be good to go ....

256

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sparty On @7.1    2 months ago

Why bring the USMC into it?  I am the daughter of a USMC DI and my father would not be amused with that.

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.1.1    2 months ago
I am the daughter of a USMC DI and my father would not be amused with that.

Fair enough.  

I know plenty of Marines, including myself, that do like it.

The beauty of a free country .....

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sparty On @7.1.2    2 months ago

I just find it sad is all.

 
 
 
squiggy
7.1.4  squiggy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.1.1    2 months ago
I am the daughter of a USMC DI and my father

You want a cookie?

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  squiggy @7.1.4    2 months ago

C'mon man, no need to get pissy like that.   She's probably proud of her Dad and she should be.  

Marine DI's are badasses and generally damn good at what they do.

 
 
 
squiggy
7.1.6  squiggy  replied to  Sparty On @7.1.5    2 months ago

She's riding on coat tails rather than her own merit. He can speak for himself.

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  squiggy @7.1.6    2 months ago
She's riding on coat tails rather than her own merit.

How do you know that?   She could be a MOH recipient for all you know.

Am i riding on my fathers coat tails if i comment that he was a Marine who survived the Chosen Reservoir in the Korean War?

Honestly, i suggest you just leave this alone.   You are just looking petty as shit.

If you really want to man up you could just apologize to Paula.

 
 
 
squiggy
7.1.8  squiggy  replied to  Sparty On @7.1.7    2 months ago

This is the internet where everyone is a superhero, Add up the claims - there were 749,693,231 Hueys in Vietnam and each one had eight doors with two gunners each. On top of that each one is spring-loaded in a righteous, pissed-off position. You can really mind your own business.

 
 
 
Sparty On
7.1.9  Sparty On  replied to  squiggy @7.1.8    2 months ago

You are one angry little dude aren't you.

That's no way to go through life ..... seek help.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.1.10  1stwarrior  replied to  squiggy @7.1.8    2 months ago

Pure bullshit response.  You starting to write fairy tails now?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.1.11  1stwarrior  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @7.1.1    2 months ago

Well Semper Fi Paula.

 
 
 
Kavika
7.1.12  Kavika   replied to  squiggy @7.1.6    2 months ago

Squiggy, Paula served 24 years in the US Military. 

End of conversation.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8  Just Jim NC TttH    2 months ago

Seems this has a  far reaching affect............kudos to this guy..⇓⇓

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/south-philly-gun-shop-owner-shoots-kills-looter-police-say/2416373/

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.1  seeder  It Is ME  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8    2 months ago

I saw the reports on that. jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Split Personality
8.2  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8    2 months ago

Big difference between rioters and looters all evening

and an organized burglary at 4:15AM EST.

Philadelphia Police say a group of three or four men used bolt cutters to cut the lock to the gate and force open the door. They made their way to the second floor, where the 67-year-old owner was armed and waiting, after seeing the men on his surveillance camera.

“One of the males pointed a gun at the owner, and that’s when the owner of the gun shop, who was in possession of one of his guns, fired several shots, striking the one male at least one time in the head,” Small said.

Police recovered a semi-automatic handgun near the man.

Medics pronounced the man dead at the scene. The others ran away. Another man with a gunshot wound to the shoulder showed up to Jefferson Hospital in Center City a short time later. Investigators are working to determine if he was involved in the burglary.

Nothing was taken. Police say the owner is shaken, but is OK and was interviewed by homicide detectives.

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/06/02/firing-line-inc-gun-range-owner-shoots-kills-suspected-burglar-in-south-philadelphia/
 
 
 
Split Personality
8.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @8.2    2 months ago

Firing Line is a favorite for Philadelphia, Delaware, Chester, Montgomery and Bucks County law enforcement.

https://www.firinglineinc.com/

https://www.phillytacticalgunsales.com/shooting-range

Whoever tried to break in were idiots.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @8.2    2 months ago
and an organized burglary at 4:15AM EST.

Possibly only thought to be a good idea with all the unrest.........¯\_(ツ)_/¯  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.2.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @8.2.1    2 months ago

I thought it was a pawn shop, not an indoor shooting range that the incident happened at.

 
 
 
Split Personality
8.2.4  Split Personality  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8.2.3    2 months ago

Different story from Minneapolis  -  which probably had some implications in Philly.

In Minneapolis the pawn shop owner killed the looter as he tried to break in - the victim was found outside on the sidewalk and the owner was arrested for murder/manslaughter etc.

In Philly the owner watched them use bolt cutters on the parking lot gate, the main entrance gate and then as they broke through the back door.  He has not yet been charged.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/cadillac-pawn-minneapolis-shot-looter-report/

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.2.5  Sparty On  replied to  Split Personality @8.2.4    2 months ago

It's the quiet dog you really need to be concerned about not the loud barking one.   They let you get deep into the house and then attack.   You're toast then.

Good advise for anyone dealing with looters.

That said i doubt there is a jury on earth that's going to throw the book at this guy if its proven the looter was really trying to break in.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8.2.6  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Split Personality @8.2.4    2 months ago

A lot depends on state laws , what the law allows as far as acceptable self defense or defense of property , and as we all know each state is vastly different.

 
 
 
Kavika
8.2.7  Kavika   replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.2.6    2 months ago

The law in MN is that you cannot shoot/kill a looter. The exception to that is if you feel your life is in danger. He shot the guy when the looter was still outside the building. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8.2.8  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Kavika @8.2.7    2 months ago

sounds like Mn has a duty to retreat statute , meaning one has to retreat to safety, basically one has to be literally cornered with no way to escape before one can use deadly force..

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.2.9  Sparty On  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.2.6    2 months ago

In Michigan it requires that the looter only be PROVEN to be trying to break into your home or business to remove a person or property.

A much more property owner friendly law than what Minnesota apparently has.

 
 
 
Kavika
8.2.10  Kavika   replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.2.8    2 months ago
sounds like Mn has a duty to retreat statute

Not quite, Mark. In speaking with my cuz who is a lawyer in Minneapolis you cannot shoot a looter to protect property. You cannot shoot a looter if he has no weapon and is coming at you. You can shoot a looter if he has a weapon and the weapon need not be a gun and you feel that your life is in danger

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8.2.11  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Kavika @8.2.10    2 months ago

sounds like there is a lot of GRAY area there , hands and feet could be considered weapons  and just as deadly as any other weapon, this is where I would rather be judged by 12 , than carried by 6 comes in .

 
 
 
MUVA
8.2.12  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @8.2.10    2 months ago

You should be able to shoot looters robbing your business at least with rock salt my preferred weapon would be the semi auto BAR with a 30 round clip.

 
 
 
Kavika
8.2.13  Kavika   replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.2.11    2 months ago

Yup, there is a lot of gray area. If he had shot the looter inside his store there probably wouldn't be any charges. 

 
 
 
Kavika
8.2.14  Kavika   replied to  MUVA @8.2.12    2 months ago

Have you ever been hit with rock salt? I have and damn it isn't pretty.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8.2.15  KDMichigan  replied to  Kavika @8.2.14    2 months ago
Have you ever been hit with rock salt?

Hell yeah I have. that was the last time I trespassed hunting on that farmers land. 

I made some rock salt loads for my 4/10, The girls never had to use it.

 
 
 
squiggy
8.2.16  squiggy  replied to  Kavika @8.2.10    2 months ago
if he has no weapon and is coming at you.

He will have a weapon when he reaches you.

 
 
 
MUVA
8.2.17  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @8.2.14    2 months ago

I haven’t but my grandma had a 12 gauge to protect her water melon patch she said after she shot a couple people they left the patch alone.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8.2.18  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Kavika @8.2.14    2 months ago
Have you ever been hit with rock salt? I have and damn it isn't pretty.

In my younger years yes , whilst skinny dipping in a private pond , I was told the scream could be heard from underwater for 50 yards.....I will not go into detail of where I was impacted while diving out of sight....

 
 
 
TTGA
8.2.19  TTGA  replied to  Split Personality @8.2    2 months ago
Investigators are working to determine if he was involved in the burglary.

If he was involved, he was committing a felony, as a result of which someone died.  That makes it a Felony Murder (First Degree Murder) that he's facing, even if he may not have been carrying a weapon and certainly did not personally kill his partner in crime and the store owner was acting in self defense.  The same would hold true for someone who didn't even go into the store but waited to drive the getaway car.  Felony Murder is one of those little pitfalls that really make it hard for a robber to make a dishonest dollar these days, especially in States like Texas where First Degree Murderers get a needle in the arm, whether they actually pulled the trigger or not.

 
 
 
Split Personality
8.2.20  Split Personality  replied to  Kavika @8.2.14    2 months ago

Time tends to slow down in certain circumstances.

Luckily I cut through those fields often enough that the cows followed me expecting cubes or apples.

So the trick was to stay close to the cows

the fool fired anyway

and I saw approaching rock salt as if it was in slow motion as I ducked under a cow.

He was mad as hell, but not nearly as mad as the cow who got hit and chased him to the tree line.

I considered it as an impetus to get my drivers license asap.jrSmiley_16_smiley_image.gif  

 
 
 
Kavika
8.2.21  Kavika   replied to  Split Personality @8.2.20    2 months ago

My two brothers and I decided to raid our grandfather's pumpkin patch. Gramps was damn sneaky and was well hidden when we showed up. I was bending down to get a pumpkin when I heard the blast and the next thing I knew my ass was on fire...

We raced home and of course, my dad knew what had happened and was pulling rock salt out of our asses. The next day Gramps came by and was telling our dad that he had caught three thieves in his patch and had let loose with both barrels. Don't think them boys will be back for a while he said, drinking his black water medicine (coffee) of course dad was trying his best to keep a straight face and ever time we tried to sneak out of the room dad would say, boys you have to hear this. Good thing you don't steal from anyone. Gramps never caught on it was his three beloved grandsons, at least I don't think that he did. But then again..........

 
 
 
Sparty On
8.2.22  Sparty On  replied to  Kavika @8.2.21    2 months ago

I bet he knew.    I’ll take old age and treachery over youth any day.

jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
8.2.23  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Split Personality @8.2    2 months ago

In other parts of the country, the owner probably would have been arrested, charged,  and tried for manslaughter as well as had a civil wrongful death suit brought on the scumbag perps family. Knowing that part of the country, the civil suit could still be a possibility.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.2.24  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @8.2.4    2 months ago

Thank for the clarification.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.2.25  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @8.2.23    2 months ago

I think it happens in all parts of the country.  Years ago (CA) we had a great little theater which was a Mom And Pop one.  A kid decided to break in one night from the roof.  He fell through and was seriously injured.  He sued the owners and won.  Now the only memory of it is in a scene from Teen Wolf.

 
 
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