Cheney vows to oppose Republican candidates who deny Trump’s election loss
By: By David Morgan
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Cheney vows to oppose Republican candidates who deny Trump’s election loss
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Representative Liz Cheney vowed on Sunday to oppose Republican candidates who back former President Donald Trump’s falsehoods about a stolen 2020 election and declared Senators Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley “unfit” for office after they voted to overturn the presidential results.
Cheney, who is Trump’s leading critic and vice chair of the congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol by his supporters, told ABC’s “This Week” that a broad movement of election denial could undermine the U.S. constitutional order if left unchecked.
The daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney has already said she will spend the next two years trying to stop Trump from returning to the White House in 2024, possibly with her own presidential bid. She declined to tell ABC whether she would run inside or outside the Republican Party, should she decide to make a presidential bid.
“I’m going to be very focused on working to ensure that we do everything we can not to elect election deniers,” Cheney said in an interview recorded last week, days after she lost her Republican primary race to a Trump-backed candidate.
“We’ve got election deniers that have been nominated for really important positions all across the country. And I’m going to work against those people. I’m going to work to support their opponents.”
Cheney did not say which Republican candidates she would oppose but acknowledged that they would include some of her fellow Republicans in the House of Representatives.
Republicans are favored to take control of the House but could face a bigger challenge capturing a Senate majority in the Nov. 8 midterm elections, which will determine the balance of power in Congress for the next two years.
As one of two Republicans on the House Jan. 6 committee, Cheney has been able to draw a direct connection between the deadly melee and Trump’s repeated false claims that he won the 2020 election against President Joe Biden.
“Donald Trump is certainly the center of the threat,” Cheney said. “What he’s created is a movement on some level that is post-truth.”
The Jan. 6 assault forced Congress to temporarily suspend its certification of Trump’s loss to Biden, during which Hawley, Cruz and other Republican members of Congress voted against certification of election results.
Cheney said the actions of Hawley, Cruz and other Republican lawmakers “fundamentally threatened the constitutional order and structure” and concluded that “they both have made themselves unfit for future office.”
A Cruz spokesperson responded with a statement saying the senator does not want or need Cheney’s endorsement.
Hawley’s office was not immediately available for comment. Neither Cruz nor Hawley is up for re-election in November.
She also criticized Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for campaigning on behalf of election deniers including Republican gubernatorial candidates Kari Lake of Arizona and Doug Mastriano of Pennsylvania.
“That is something that I think people have got to have real pause about. You know, either you fundamentally believe in and will support our constitutional structure, or you don’t,” Cheney said.
Like Trump himself, DeSantis has flirted with voters about the possibility of his own 2024 presidential run, while he seeks reelection in Florida this year. The DeSantis campaign was not immediately available for comment.
Cheney’s re-election loss in Wyoming last week was widely seen as a victory for Trump’s revenge campaign against House Republicans who voted to impeach him after the Jan. 6 riot. She told ABC she heard from Biden afterwards: “We had a very good talk, a talk about the importance of putting the country ahead of partisanship.”
(Reporting by David Morgan; Editing by Mary Milliken and Lisa Shumaker)
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It will be interesting to see if she will either weald the kiss of death or cause the reverse of her intent.
Sadly whatever she says will fall on deaf ears, The forever trumpers will not listen to anything other than their own dogma.
... a ragged split in the GOP. it'll be fun rubbing trumpster faces into the pile of shit they call their hero.
I guess their 'big tent' has people sawing at the support beams.
Yeah, with Trump attacking McConnell and the division between the Trumpsuckers and those with integrity it appears that the Republican party is in somewhat of a mess.
... lots of turds in their punch bowl. too bad. drink up trumpsters...
If he told them to, they probably would.
Everything in politics ultimately depends on votes. If the Republican party loses enough seats the forever Trumpers will go back to being nodded to, but largely ignored. If Trumpism continues to bring in votes then it will stick around. I think for the next few elections we'll see a mixed bag depending on the individual race.
The Democratic party is going through a similar traditional/populist phase itself. As progressive populism increases in the Democratic party there is a correlating decline in Blacks and Hispanic voters. There is a sizable group of self identifying conservatives within these demographics that, if not exactly being welcomed into the Republican party, are being exploited to not vote Democrat.
The Dems will have their own reckoning one of these days. It use to be the more progressives were kind of pushed to the side. Now their voices seem to be rattling a lot more. What bothers me about some of the reps is their, basically, blind devotion to one person.
One could argue that Obama almost had a cult like following yet to me, no where near what I have seen with trump.
Well said and a refreshing change from the usual 'my side is better than yours' comments that litter these pages and I include most of mine in that category.
We can see where Trump is a symptom of the larger populism movement as now just a few more people are moving away from the person but sticking with the message.
Obama energized more black men to vote since the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. He was a great orator and good at energizing the party. He was a moderate and rather mediocre President.
Partisanism and populism are diseases that rot the political body. Until we can cure both humanity will suffer from it's own making.
Almost sounds like the way people get elected these days...
Completely agree. Putting political affiliation before country is unpatriotic. Populism is the enemy of the compromises that good, representative government requires.
I voted in my first election in 1972 and over the years I found candidates at all levels that I could support and frequently split my ticket. No I found myself with very few that I would ever support and am usually voting against whomever I think will do the most damage.
the 2 party system is obsolete. an independent party needs to be officially sanctioned when dark money PAC's are eliminated and the entire campaign funding debacle is sanitized.
Imo that is one of the main problems. All the dark money floating around.
Then why are populist still using it?
We'll see how well the Forward party works in the next few years. I won't hold my breath.
Yeah... I don't see that happening in my lifetime either.
Cheney shit her own bed. Now she is looking to do the same to other Republicans. Time for her to join her father in the land of forgotten POS politicians.
Doesn't appear likely to me that she's going to walk away.
It will depend on how what she says is received.
To some they may view it as the words of a "lame duck" that has nothing to lose anyway her term ends in jan .
Or that she has because of the loss decided to go on her own "revenge " tour , just as trump did .( stick with what you know works ).
Now one thing that is sticking in my mind when she is calling other politicians unfit for office , and this only applies to me personally, is that the people that decide IF a person is fit for office or not , the voters needed to elect her, have decided that she herself is unfit for the office she ran for and said so with their votes
If i were a betting person , my money would be on her having her own revenge tour while she still has a free forum as a representative in the media .
That is ridiculous. Fit for office means character + qualifications. Easily a misled public could vote unfit people into office and sometimes does.
Whatever the individual voter chooses it to mean , but i can see how it can be frustrating to some if their definition isnt adhered to ....
I don't think she should have used the term "fit for office" because it's too open for misinterpreting what she meant.
Seems easy enough to figure out, here is a discerning question:
Should Trump be entrusted with the authority and responsibility of the office of president of the United States?
In the case of Trump, it should be crystal clear to anyone who can think objectively that the answer is a resounding 'no'.
Cheney may run for president if she can be sure to be the only "moderate" in the Republican race. If both DeSantis and Trump run there could be a lane for someone that isnt crazy. But she would have to be the only traditional Republican in the field.
Well 2024 is still over the horizon election wise , and i have seen that talk nationally , and even heard it discussed locally .
Considering that she has been using wyoming as her home state ( that i will always debate ), what usually happens to a candidate that can not carry or win their home state ? because as it stands right now , there is no way the voters of wyoming will vote for her in the primary to be the presidential candidate .
She will be whistling in the wind.
She won't get enough signatures to get on most state ballots as an independent; even with the Democrat help.
The Republicans won't let her run as one of them. They have already cast her out at the national and state level.
Think the Democrats will let her run under their banner? She voted 93% of the time for Trump backed policies; and applauded the Supreme Court abortion ruling.
She can try the Libertarian party (Not sure they will take her. She represents a lot of what they are against). Ask Gary Johnson, Justin Amash, and other ex-Republicans how that works. Even with POS Establishment candidates like Hillary and Trump; and Biden and Trump; third parties can't get even 10% of the vote. Or even get on most state ballots.
Liz Cheney shit her bed; and now she can lie in it.
She could campaign for Democrat candidates against Republicans; but that will only confirm she cares more about herself, her power, and carrying a vendetta. Republicans and moderates will reject her for what she is.
I didn't know she applauded the SCOTUS abortion ruling. That could change my mind about her.
Cheney is a solid classical GoP politician. She has been black-balled by her party for refusing to kowtow to Trump and instead vowing to keep him out of office. She voted with Trump 93% of the time, voted for Trump in 2020, but then voted to impeach him after the Big Lie campaign.
This is a core GoP politician who risked and lost her #3 leadership position in the GoP and her House seat because she refused to let Trump and Trump sycophants control the GoP without a fight (from her).
She bucked Trump and the (currently ill with a Trump infection) GoP booted her.
She bucked trump and the (currently ill with trump infection ) GoP booted her * and then the voters she needed in the state she represented decided she was not representing them to their satisfaction so she was fired on primary election day .
that part after the asterik is the important part and its those voters that got to decide if she "was fit for office " by their own , not anyone elses definitions .
Take solice that we no longer tar, feather , and run out of town on a rail .
That is correct.
Your point seems to be that her constituents disapproved of her representation post Big Lie. That is both obvious and a point that has never been contested by me.
My point is that Cheney has demonstrated personal integrity by standing up for truth and being responsible even though it cost her position (3rd highest leadership) in the GoP and her seat.
Do you disagree with my point?
nope dont disagree thats your point , i simply disregard it because i know she wouldnt get any votes from those that are grievng her loss from the other side when push comes to shove .
you can have your opinion and point , no one is say ing anyone cant , my point is the voters dont care what others think they made up their own minds as to if she was doing the job they elected her for , obviously they didnt think so .
at least we do sort of agree it was her own actions that cost her her seat , it was her choice , and i think her knowing that the state voters have self imposed term limits for that seat , she decided to risk the 4th term and did as she chose , choices always have consequences, she knew the risk , if she didnt she was an idiot that deserved to be voted out , she took the risk , and she has no one to blame but herself . and she lost , thats just one consequense she faces . she was out with the term limits next time anyway unless she decided to buck the voters too and try for a 5th term if she could have won a 4th .
Since i never once voted for her in the general , my only question to my fellow wyomingites is , wtf took you so long to realize she wasnt worth your vote? and thats keeping it clean and polite .
talk of her running for the presidency is nothing more than a MSM and a left wing wet dream that likely wont come to pass , someone will take her aside and point out her chances . I do i know i would never vote for the individual( better buzz?) for any office .
my point actually has been she has always faced certain opposition from being an out of stater and political carpetbagger , to someone that has never lived in the state and never had a real clue as to what the people of wyoming are about or think , maybe she got those 3 terms she did because of her daddys name and over time she started to get a clue , most of all she didnt do any real harm in the view of the voters , her actions this 3rd term , also made some of her other detractions in the eyes of voters , not so invisible or ignorable ., she created her own perfect political storm that sunk her in this state ., so she not only gets to now lick the bowl of loss , but also the spoon after she is done stirring the crap pot . she currently is attempting to .
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I thought she was pretty popular before she took issue with Trump, she appeared to have been the exemplary Republican. IMO it's the Wyoming voters who are idiots.
The fact that we have an example of a politician with integrity is not something I would cavalierly disregard.
I doubt Cheney thinks she has a chance to win the presidency; she would likely only run to spoil Trump. She has no realistic chance with the current dysfunctional, divided GoP, certainly not as a D, and nobody has much of a chance as an I or L.
She was demonstrably popular having been elected three times with 73% of the vote (R primary) on her most recent reelection (67% on prior). She voted 93% of the time in support of Trump and even voted for him in 2020.
integrity didnt mean a thing , she still lost, i believe her dad said something about integrity is a good thing but doesnt matter if you lose , or at least its being attributed to him .
her intergrity went out the window as far as i was concerned when she asked democrats in the state to register to vote in the primary for her ., i venture to guess im not the only one that looked at that action poorly .
she lost thats it, the left loses a possible ally , or someone that might compromise in their favor .
keep in mind i didnt vote in the primary either , im registered independent , i dont go for or like cross party voting to have the other party choose who they will run against , but i will guarentee i will vote against any party or candidate that does , in the general .
so instead of listening to what the media is saying what do you think about what i , someone actually in state , that has been listening to the people that voted , had to say about my own observations and yes my own opinion of the matter?
just how many different ways do you think cheney actually screwed herself out of re election, once the voters actually started to look at what and who she was that they might have before overlooked .
I am sure that if the people of some other state wish to reward her integrity with an office in politics she just might take them up, and im sure the people here wont be caring . they might smirk a little .....
Yes, integrity lost to a candidate who sold out to support Trump and his Big Lie:
Preferable.
If Cheney had kowtowed to Trump like the majority of the GOP and not challenged his Big Lie, would she be a good Republican in your eyes?