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Trump says he'll be 'holding Canada responsible' for wildfire smoke

  
Via:  Buzz of the Orient  •  4 months ago  •  112 comments

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Trump says he'll be 'holding Canada responsible' for wildfire smoke
 

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Trump says he'll be 'holding Canada responsible' for wildfire smoke

U.S. President Donald Trump says he plans to hold Canada accountable for wildfire smoke blowing across the border, vowing the cost will be added to the American tariffs.

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"We are holding Canada responsible for the fact that they are not properly maintaining their Forests, and Brush therein, and the United States is being unnecessarily invaded by filthy, polluted, and unhealthy air, the quality of which is dangerous, and totally unacceptable," Trump posted on Truth Social Friday afternoon.

He said the wildfire smoke amounts to "Willful Negligence" and is "becoming a yearly occurrence, costing the United States Billions of Dollars, which cost of this pollution must of necessity be added to the TARIFFS Canada is currently paying."

Trump also mentioned in his post that he would be calling Prime Minister Mark Carney "to find out what they are going to do about it."

American politicians in Congress have criticized Canada's response to the wildfires that have burned across the country in recent days , including with remarks that "sovereignty comes with responsibility."

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Friday that while he "truly believe[s] the Americans are good neighbours," he added: "if there's some politicians out there chirping away, well, maybe what you should do rather than complain is send support, send help, because we have done the exact same thing for our American friends. And that's what you're supposed to do."Since 1982, Canada and the U.S. have been a part of the Canada/United States Reciprocal Forest Fire Fighting Arrangement, which is "an exchange of diplomatic notes is the legal instrument for resource exchange between [Canadian Interagency Forest Fires Centre] CIFFC member agencies and United States Federal Fire Management Agencies." 


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Buzz of the Orient
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1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    4 months ago

What an asshole that man is.  FIRSTLY, the smoke over the eastern USA is NOT just from Canada:

Minnesota, Canada wildfire smoke chokes Great Lakes with dangerous …

3 days ago  · A choking veil of wildfire smoke is producing dangerous air quality across the Great Lakes as a dystopian haze settles over the region.

SECONDLY, has the USA been helping to put out the fires in Canada?

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Friday that while he "truly believe[s] the Americans are good neighbours," he added: "if there's some politicians out there chirping away, well, maybe what you should do rather than complain is send support, send help, because we have done the exact same thing for our American friends. And that's what you're supposed to do."Since 1982, Canada and the U.S. have been a part of the Canada/United States Reciprocal Forest Fire Fighting Arrangement, which is "an exchange of diplomatic notes is the legal instrument for resource exchange between [Canadian Interagency Forest Fires Centre] CIFFC member agencies and United States Federal Fire Management Agencies." 

THIRDLY Trump has exacerbated the Global Warming that is causing the proliferation of wildfires by discouriaging EVs, windfarms, methods to reduce global warming and instead encouraging "Drill baby drill".   

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1    4 months ago

From the Frazier Institute:

More specifically, Tymstra et al. find that Canada has failed to fund the proactive management of forest fires sufficiently and is not poised to do better moving forward. “Wildfire management agencies in Canada are at a tipping point. Presuppression [sic] and suppression costs are increasing but program budgets are not.” But clearly, a lack of fire suppression is also a problem: “Wildfire suppression contributes to a wildfire problem but paradoxically it is wildfire use that will help to solve this problem. The wildfire management toolbox must include wildfire use to manage wildfires at the landscape scale because it is not feasible to effectively use prescribed burns and/or fuel management treatments alone to restore expansive wildfire-dependent ecosystems.” That’s a somewhat academic long-winded way of saying you need to fight fire with fire, but the point is valid nonetheless.

Canada is having a hell of a fire season, there’s no disputing that. And it’s producing hellish landscapes across Canada and North America. What it is not, however, is a call to more of the same old “climate action.” But rather, a call for more sane real-world real-time management of fire risk in Canada’s forests, a practise that Canadian governments have failed at for decades.

One can only hope that this fire season will light a fire under Canada’s fire-foolish policymakers, and finally motivate them to take the rational course—fighting fire risk with fire use, rather than pointing to the climate sky gods and calling for appeasement measures that will not affect Canada’s risk of forest fires.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    4 months ago

I guess America's firefighters don't fight fire with fire either.  Nor do the ones in Europe.  So maybe Canada should burn down its forests so there's no more risk of forest fires.  I can't open the link, so did the Frazier Institute indicate how to fight a forest fire, or just post criticism?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.1    4 months ago

Basically the report says that Canadian policies on forestry, similar to California's is the problem.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.1.3  SteevieGee  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    4 months ago

There are 33 million acres of forested land in California.  57% is owned by the federal government and 40% is privately owned.  Only 3% is owned by the state including land trusts.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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1.1.4  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    4 months ago

Kissing Trump "Big Ulgy Arse" must be attractive for some dumbfucs.

 
 
 
Waykwabu
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2  Waykwabu    4 months ago

What else can this idiot (Trump) blame the rest of the world for ?????

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Waykwabu @2    4 months ago

I believe it is quite a list.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.2  bugsy  replied to  Waykwabu @2    4 months ago
What else can this idiot (Trump) blame the rest of the world for ?????

Hilarious coming from a member of the party that blames Trump for EVERYTHING that goes wrong in their lives...including dumb life decisions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @2.2    4 months ago

Trump is constantly damaging this nation.   There is no shortage of damage by this idiot to justify legitimate blame.

Do you support his war with Iran?   Do you believe the blood and treasure he spent improved the situation or made it worse?

800

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @2.2    4 months ago
.including dumb life decisions.

Like thinking about Trump 24/7?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.2.3  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.2    4 months ago
Like thinking about Trump 24/7?

Trump is negatively affecting, with the exception of a few of the richest in the world, in a distinctly NEGATIVE way, that thinking individuals are positive of. Authoritarian leaders, bigots, and various other prejudicial bottom feeders, may believe in this pseudo liter, approved quart cheater, who's grifting is gifting to fossil fools and the Industrial Military Complex, while A I corrals ewes to liken the Golden Shower abuser to be the ewenique sheep bleater and truth beater with Petty insecurities for Toms', Dix, and Harry's Smokin more than pot in the bellies rott of the porked, smoked butts without a filter till corked, isz the swill not swell, cause puddin doesn't always jell, oh yea, Kool Aid ain't always Kool, cause just B Cosby Roofied half the Nation, dozen make US A Bakers lucky 13, cause Trumps list probably goes pre-teen N B LOW, cause how so, can won ignore the loser, child trafficker and abuser, persistent projection pseudo accuser, that projects upon the worlds screen D inn glass wrapped around porch, the whirled he has spun after the ignition from a WHite Power House Torch, as via a Fire Fox FCKN US up, is the propped up propaganda so WRONG, all while almost All White and never enuff 'Right' to not fight what has bin released when it should have stayed stored, asz Trump prostitutes US like his whores who he keeps in doors never closed, cause there are not windows, never closed, cause when you live inn the barn and are very unstable, it is hard not to see how much one loser can take from over and under the table of gifts that only one who grifts could ever so thoroughly sift, through the sand of an Iran War to deflect from his underage score that he shore did a pier to tell US he would expose so much more, of, butt, somehow he never received much needed love, and if there is a god above, may Bubba provide, the pimp that took this country for a ride, where we still might have just died, cause Trump ain't on hour side, asz every day should have made more clear, on just how much damage and money he has done, and done robbed from US in just under two a year, and this should cause every citizen of the world to shed a tear, torn right out of my watered down beer, cause daddy for sail Sears as he Roes' N owes as he Wades vs. war bucks robbed buy the cucks whose bitches he fux, N 4 far too many, the position he has left this country and the entire world, shore asz shit, SUCKS, N 4 peep holes who can't see this, they R either shit inn, ore the irony of outta, Luck, cuz who should really give a FCK

You, mite wish to figure, this out

B 4 from your soap box you dew water spout,

over

n 

out

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.2.4  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2.2.3    4 months ago

Almost lunch time.  I'll try to set aside some time this afternoon between movies to read through your comment.  Have you ever thought of providing an executive summary?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.2.5  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.4    4 months ago
providing an executive summary?

don't ask me what it means, cause I just recently wrote it and just red it again till blue in read balloon , pop'd   and not a weasel just don't know anyone that could explain it, as i have a few questions myself i'd like further explained , myself, too, myself 2 sell fee's, and selfie them to some one else at a fee, to self fish for me, down by the hard C cause hi, C with a hard K, near KC at a KC KFC meal width two sides of thr zgreen with N V Pyramid scheem dunn in D Nile River of Deceipt, without a receipt, to return what turned into a signal, a signal to others that you are turning a round rectangular sealing the deal at the bottom, of the contract, not a sign d in person had signaled, that such a sign, was a design, and a sign, of things to come...front and center, of the do not enter, occupied, and rent free a head of schedule I make up, though not a make up artist....unless

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.2.6  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2.2.5    4 months ago

Unless what?

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.2.7  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.6    4 months ago
Unless what?

unless i am not a make up artist. making up that I am a make up artist whilst painting a different picture that is sketched upon the weathered textured lines that cover the trials and tribulations that have allowed me to earn the mask, that i cannot remove, the reputation that cannot smooth, over the globs of make up and artist is required to use, whence know make up is required, as lit is the fuse, tripped is the breaker, if i am a make up artist, witch is cast to spell wroong, you would be correct in me lip sinking in two, my tied tongue, my lied too young, my single sung, by my bell too many times rung under the latter for good luck, cause i'm knot a make up artist, just one who will right wrong whatever i sketch as i sing this song pictured in an album that does bang, as my feats won't touch the ground, till I no longer Hang....

unless....? 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.2.8  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2.2.7    4 months ago

Unless you really ARE a make-up artist, in which case you should make up your mind.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.2.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.8    4 months ago

it already is....

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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2.2.10  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  bugsy @2.2    4 months ago

budsy:  Is there a reason why you label yourself as "budsy"?

 
 
 
Freefaller
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3  Freefaller    4 months ago

Put a tariff on the smoke.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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4  Drakkonis    4 months ago

Trump is often his own worst enemy. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Drakkonis @4    4 months ago

There is no filter between his brain and his mouth.  That is OK sometimes but other times someone should  be there with a cattle prod when he starts going off the rails.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1    4 months ago
.."...when he starts going off the rails."

...and when he falls asleep at an event.

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Right Down the Center
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4.1.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1.1    4 months ago

He doesn't say anything dumb when he is asleep. Why wake him up?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.2    4 months ago

LOL   Good idea.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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4.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Drakkonis @4    4 months ago

His own enemy and Ares!

Fugazi this POS! He is stinking up the entire world. His "Dirty Diapers" and big and loose.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5  Right Down the Center    4 months ago
He said the wildfire smoke amounts to "Willful Negligence" and is "becoming a yearly occurrence, costing the United States Billions of Dollars, which cost of this pollution must of necessity be added to the TARIFFS Canada is currently paying."

I would rather have them supply HEPA air filters to every family effected.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @5    4 months ago

Dream away.  This situation makes me think back to when Canada was victimized by the acid rain that blew over from the USA.  It affected the lake where I had my lakeside chalet.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    4 months ago

He is a shockingly stupid man.

By the way, we have fires burning out west that are sending smoke into Canada. What are the chances Trump will be compensating them for it?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Tacos! @6    4 months ago

Anyone who thinks so is also liable to believe he can buy the Gordie Howe bridge.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @6    4 months ago

Maintaining forests is important. Canada and California don't do that. In the case of California where water is so important, reservoirs were not maintained either

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2    4 months ago
Maintaining forests is important. Canada and California don't do that.

Not true.

In the case of California where water is so important, reservoirs were not maintained either

Also not true.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.2.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2    4 months ago

5,000 firefighters battling blazes as Canada faces 'intense' wildfire season: Carney

Prime Minister's comments come as Ontario announced it is giving local authorities access to Canada's national public alerting system.
268ae1eb0b719b7ce51d7782427d43670dafce843bced40b240c2aeba4600ab1.jpg;w=960 Prime Minister Mark Carney listens to a briefing in a wildfire control room in Fort Smith, N.W.T., Wednesday, July 23, 2025. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jeff McIntosh

Prime Minister Mark Carney says more than 5,000 firefighters and nearly 300 waterbombers and other aircraft are battling blazes as Canada experiences one of the  worst wildfire seasons  on record.

Carney said he visited federal workers in Ottawa on Sunday morning who are helping with wildfire response efforts in northwestern Ontario and across the country.

Nearly 1,000 wildfires are blazing from coast to coast, according to the national wildland fire summary.

Carney says extreme heat waves and dry conditions have made this year "one of the most intense wildfire seasons in Canadian history."

Source: Toronto Today

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.2.3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.2.2    4 months ago

And who in the whole world is REFUSING to do what is necessary to control the global warming that is causing wildfires to proliferate?

 
 
 
Waykwabu
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6.2.4  Waykwabu  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.2.2    4 months ago

One of the great problems of today's world, probably  climate change contributes  greatly to it.  A foretaste of what we in Australia will face in the coming summer, more intense than past fire seasons, and they were bad enough.

We are grateful the help received from Canada, New Zealand,  US in form of equipment, volunteer firefighters etc.

 
 
 
charger 383
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6.2.5  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.2.3    4 months ago

Overpopulation, I keep saying that is the problem they refuse to address

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.2.6  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @6.2.5    4 months ago

From what I"ve been reading, apparently birth rates are dropping, and people are having less children because of the expense.  What do you suggest should be done to reduce the population?

 
 
 
charger 383
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6.2.7  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.2.6    4 months ago

Birthrates falling is a good start, need to encourage the trend

Some won't like my suggestions but here are a few

   Quality over quantity 

   education, 

   birth control  covered by insurance and encouraged, more research 

   abortion,  covered by insurance 

   Accept that overpopulation is a big problem

   greatly reduce immigration and migration

 That is a few things to start on  

   

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.2.8  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @6.2.7    4 months ago

Good points.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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6.2.9  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2    4 months ago

Vic: Have you visited Canada or California?

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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6.2.10  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.2.6    4 months ago

Weed out the 512 512 who follow the WORST POTUS in the History of the United States of America.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @6    4 months ago
He is a shockingly stupid man.

With a shockingly stupid and servile crisis management team that always comes out and desperately tries to normalize the stupid and crazy.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7  MrFrost    4 months ago
Trump says he'll be 'holding Canada responsible' for wildfire smoke

What's he going to do, hit them with his purse?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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8  Hal A. Lujah    4 months ago

Canada is not sending us their best air quality.

I was just joking yesterday that it was about time for Trump to start making threats to Canada about the smoke.  I don’t know why I delude myself into thinking this wouldn’t actually happen.  This is the fucking moron who opined about setting off a nuclear bomb in a hurricane.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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8.1  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @8    4 months ago

Trump is a walking, talking THREAT to mankind, universally!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9  JohnRussell    4 months ago

I heard these fires might burn for years. 

Why It Won’t Stop Soon

The forces driving Canada’s fires are structural, not temporary. Temperatures are trending upward. Drought conditions in key fire-prone regions are persisting across seasons. The boreal forest holds enormous quantities of stored fuel, both in living vegetation and in the deep organic soils that feed zombie fires. And the threshold dynamics identified in recent research mean that even modest further warming can trigger disproportionately large increases in burned area.

Canada’s fire regime has fundamentally shifted. The annual area burned and the number of large fires have been climbing for over six decades, and every major climate projection shows that trajectory continuing. The country isn’t experiencing a bad stretch of luck. It’s experiencing what happens when a massive, fire-adapted forest ecosystem meets a rapidly warming climate, layered on top of decades of accumulated fuel and persistent drought in the regions most vulnerable to ignition.

Why Is Canada Still on Fire and When Will It Stop - ScienceInsights
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @9    4 months ago

Nature is going to win this war, especially when it has Trump's America on its side.  

 
 
 
Waykwabu
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9.1.1  Waykwabu  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1    4 months ago

jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif    LOL.   Very True !!!!

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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9.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  JohnRussell @9    4 months ago

A decent, smart president would pitch in to help our allies. TRUMP is neither decent nor an ally to anyone but PUTIN!

 
 
 
TᵢG
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10  TᵢG    4 months ago

Fuck Trump.

800

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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10.1  Raven Wing   replied to  TᵢG @10    4 months ago

Right on TiG.  jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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11  Igknorantzruls    4 months ago

If Canada in Trumps' eyes owes US, what does Trump owe the entire world ? Between his ILLEGAL tariffs, his illegal ill advised Iran War that has cost the entire world Trillions, his unbelievably stupid reversal on renewable energy sources and emphasis on drill baby drill ( which hasn't happened and wouldn't bring our gas and oil prices down anyway as OPEC and markets determine prices) and his directed US with drawl from key climate treatirws and 65 other global organizations that deal with climate change. The world might want to ho;d US Accountable for quite a bit, cause 47, equals POS

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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11.1  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Igknorantzruls @11    4 months ago

TRUMP & his minions of INCOMPETENCE, SYCOPHANTS must be impeached!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    4 months ago

Obvously it takes a political article to fire up any action around here, so I'm not going to waste as much of my time posting articles that are too esoteric to gain much interest.  I had a more rewarding day watching 4 movies I never saw before - Lakeview Terrace, with Samuel L Jackson; Big Miracle, about saving stranded whales in Alaska; The Dead Pool, a Dirty Harry movie; and Paycheck, starring Ben Affleck, Uma Thurman and Paul Giametti.  Bet nobody else has watched 4 regular movies in one day. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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12.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12    4 months ago

Absolutely correct Buzz - and it's so sad to see how low the conversations have gotten.  I mean, if you can't say something "bad" 'bout T-T-T-T-R-R-R-R-U-U-U-U-M-M-M-M-P-P-P-P-P. then you don't need to be posting.

Wife wants to watch "Obsession" with Michael Jordan, so I watched Ryan Gosling's "Hail Mary" - really interesting movie - might deserve a repeat review.  Take a chance with Brandon Frazier in "The Whale" and "Pressure" - great shows - super acting - I think you might enjoy the time spent.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  1stwarrior @12.1    4 months ago

I'm limited to the movies that are on the movie web site I have access to.  It's pretty good, enables me to see a lot of movies I've never seen before and some really good ones I don't mind watching again.  If any of the ones you mentioned come up I'll watch them cause I particularly seek ones I've never seen before.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  1stwarrior @12.1    4 months ago

What do you expect when Trump almost daily does something new to damage the USA, enrich himself, or abuse the powers of his office for vindictive or self-aggrandizement reasons?   Of course he will be discussed, and of course he will be criticized for all his stupid and wrong words and deeds.   What patriot would sit back silently while this psychopath runs roughshod over our nation ... or complain that others are voicing their objections to this wholly unfit abysmal human being?

800

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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12.1.3  1stwarrior  replied to  TᵢG @12.1.2    4 months ago

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JohnRussell
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12.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @12.1.3    4 months ago

Trump disrespects American Indians [deleted] [✘] He disrespects everyone who doesnt kiss his ass (and he has said so - he judges people according to how nice they are to him [personally.deleted] [✘] )

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @12.1.2    4 months ago

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Gsquared
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12.1.6  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.5    4 months ago

The guitar is out of tune.  The singer is totally off-key.  Music to magas ears.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.6    4 months ago
The guitar is out of tune.  The singer is totally off-key.

Maybe, but the words are true.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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12.1.8  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.7    4 months ago

Yep.  Here are the lyrics.  And he sings them with such feeling:

"I'm a lying piece of shit. 

I'm disgusting filth degrading America. 

And maga love me, love me, love me!

Owooo!!!!"

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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12.1.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.5    4 months ago

you really want to flaunt this fact...? WOW

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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12.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.8    4 months ago

I like your lyrics better

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.8    4 months ago

Uh huh

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.5    4 months ago

Under other circumstances I would say the president was "my" president no matter who he was. Not with this dickhead. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @12.1.9    4 months ago

Better than denying the simple fact. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.12    4 months ago

And yet he is your president. Assuming you live in the u s of course

 
 
 
Gsquared
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12.1.15  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.14    4 months ago

Trump would be the first to say he's not everyone's president.  He's only the president for those who worship and adore him.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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12.1.16  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.11    4 months ago

Sing along!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.1.17  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.14    4 months ago
And yet he is your president.

Opinions do vary. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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12.1.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.6    4 months ago
The guitar is out of tune.  The singer is totally off-key.  Music to magas ears.

He's singing their song of 'Ban abortion, kill civil rights and voting rights, and free white religious conservatives from the bondage of being labeled ignorant white misogynistic religious bigots'. They're not going to stop being ignorant white misogynistic religious bigots, it's just Trump rebranded that into MAGA and convinced them it's 'cool' to be a greasy poorly educated religious bigot conspiracy theorist.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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12.1.19  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.15    4 months ago

He does say that! So since I fucking hate his guts he would tell me he's not my president!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.17    4 months ago

But facts don't

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.21  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.1.19    4 months ago
he would tell me he's not my president!

Then he would be wrong

 
 
 
Gsquared
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12.1.22  Gsquared  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.21    4 months ago
Then he would be wrong.

As usual.  About everything.  Except that.  He doesn't think he's all Americans' president.  And he certainly never acts like he is.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.1.23  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.5    4 months ago

You have no defense for this lunatic so you resort to a lame taunt.   

Given that you cannot defend Trump on the merits, that should be a red flag.  Criticizing Trump’s wrongdoing and the damage he has done to our nation is justified and patriotic. Pathetic attempts to taunt those who raise legitimate objections are not.

800

 
 
 
bugsy
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12.1.24  bugsy  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.6    4 months ago
The guitar is out of tune.  The singer is totally off-key

Maybe...but he is still your president

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.25  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.5    4 months ago

I am unable to open that image.  Please describe it, or save it from the source to your computer picture library and then post it here from there. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.26  Right Down the Center  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.1.25    4 months ago

It is a meme of trump singing i am your president 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.27  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.26    4 months ago

Okay, no problem, because after all, NT is mostly the "Love Trump vs Hate Trump" show. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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12.1.28  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.1.27    4 months ago
NT is mostly the "Love Trump vs Hate Trump" show.

aka 'those in denial vs those who see Trump for the corrupt incompetent weasel he is'. He may be these mentally challenged bigots President, and be in control of the executive, but real patriotic Americans don't consider him their President. Patriotic Americans know Trump is just a slimy coward con man who convinced the absolute dumbest among us to give him to keys to the Whitehouse and will go down in history as the worst most delusional scum bag dick-tater America has ever had to suffer through.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.30  Right Down the Center  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.1.27    4 months ago
Okay, no problem, because after all, NT is mostly the "Love Trump vs Hate Trump" show. 

Or some folks that are in the middle where reality lies and at least has enough of a grasp on it to know who the president is and the fact he won't be in a couple of years.  Ergo no twisted panties caused by outrage over everything he does or says.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.30    4 months ago

Trump has done plenty of damage in two years and will almost certainly continue to damage this nation (and the world).

Trump is a serious problem right now and you are pretending that none of it matters.

800

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.32  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @12.1.31    4 months ago
Trump has done plenty of damage in two years and will almost certainly continue to damage this nation (and the world).

I am doing fine and confident I will be doing fine after Trump

The country is doing fine and I am confident it will be fine after Trump.

Trump is a serious problem right now and you are pretending that none of it matters.

256

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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12.1.33  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.32    4 months ago

Trump has already done immense damage to this country. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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12.1.34  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.32    4 months ago
The country is doing fine, and I am confident it will be fine after Trump.

That is blindness.   Our nation is NOT doing fine.   What causes people like you to ignore the damage Trump is doing to this nation?

Hell, you can just look at one item, the Iran war, and recognize the damage Trump has caused and the real repercussions on the USA, et. al.    Given that is just one item with many more, how you can pretend that everything is fine is laughably absurd.   What do you think you accomplish by pretending everything is just fine?

800

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.35  Right Down the Center  replied to  TᵢG @12.1.34    4 months ago
Our nation is NOT doing fine. 

256

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.36  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.33    4 months ago

 
 
 
Split Personality
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12.1.37  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.33    4 months ago

ICE is the new KGB

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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12.1.38  Right Down the Center  replied to  Split Personality @12.1.37    4 months ago
ICE is the new KGB

According to Gemini:

No, ICE is not the new KGB. While U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has drawn intense comparisons and harsh criticism from politicians and civil rights advocates for its aggressive enforcement and detention tactics , the two agencies serve fundamentally different roles, operate under different legal systems, and possess completely different historical structures. [ 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 ]
The differences between ICE and the KGB include:
  • Agency Mission: ICE is a federal law enforcement agency tasked with enforcing immigration and customs laws. The KGB was the Soviet Union's primary security agency, known for internal political repression, espionage, and suppressing domestic dissent. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Target Audience: ICE operations primarily target noncitizens who have violated U.S. immigration law. The KGB targeted Soviet citizens, political dissidents, and anyone suspected of posing a threat to the Communist regime. [ 1 , 2 ]
  • Checks and Balances: ICE operates within the framework of U.S. constitutional law, oversight by the Department of Homeland Security, and the American judicial system. The KGB was an organ of an authoritarian one-party state that routinely operated outside the bounds of traditional due process. [ 1 , 2 , 3 ]
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.39  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.30    4 months ago

Yes, be patient, there are only going to be a couple more years of disaster to be concerned about.  But who knows, with the help of a biased SCotUS, maybe yet ANOTHER 4 years after that.  After all, it's already put Trump ABOVE the law, has it not?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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12.1.40  Split Personality  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.38    4 months ago
ICE operates within the framework of U.S. constitutional law, oversight by the Department of Homeland Security, and the American judicial system.

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The KGB was an organ of an authoritarian one-party state that routinely operated outside the bounds of traditional due process

ICE is apparently an organ of an authoritarian 2 party state ( currently) that routinely operates outside the bounds of traditional due process

 
 
 
Thomas
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12.1.41  Thomas  replied to  TᵢG @12.1.34    4 months ago

He is going to sodomize the poor guy, if he can figure out how

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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12.1.42  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thomas @12.1.41    4 months ago
e is going to sodomize the poor guy, if he can figure out how

That doesn't look Graham Platner, who Democrats voted to represent them despite his publicly bragging about how he wanted to rape men...

 
 
 
Thomas
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12.1.43  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.1.42    4 months ago

No, but it looks exactly like Donald Trump, who would fold you over a barrel.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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12.1.44  Sean Treacy  replied to  Thomas @12.1.43    4 months ago

If you say so.  I don't really spend much time thinking about  men wanting to rape other men.  Some will, of course, tell you they want to rape other men, and that's disturbing. Before this year I would have have thought disqualifying for a politician. Others fixate on the topic and constantly post about other men having  gay sex, forced or not.  Very odd. 

 
 
 
Thomas
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12.1.45  Thomas  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.1.44    4 months ago

Well, anyone wanting to rape anyone, by definition, is more than disturbing, it is disqualifying. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.46  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Thomas @12.1.45    4 months ago

@ Thomas and Sean

IMO this is starting to go too far off topic, so any continuation of it will be deleted.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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12.1.47  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.8    4 months ago

My favorite song, song an artist, not someone that sings from his glutamuous maximus!

Dirty Diaper Donnie is "Always Arse Backwards"

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.1.48  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Right Down the Center @12.1.38    4 months ago

How many innocent people have they shot this week?

 
 
 
evilone
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12.2  evilone  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12    4 months ago
The Dead Pool... and Paycheck...

Two pretty fun movies. 

Bet nobody else has watched 4 regular movies in one day. 

I haven't been watching much of anything lately. My wife and I watched the Ride or Die season 1 on Prime and I watched Sisu: Road To Revenge myself last night on Netflix. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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12.2.1  1stwarrior  replied to  evilone @12.2    4 months ago

I dunno 'bout the Deadpool 1 & 2 - cute, but, IMHO, way too much slathering language.  I like Ryan in a lot of his flicks - 'specially the "Hitman" with Mr. "MF" Jackson :-)

 
 
 
Thomas
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12.2.2  Thomas  replied to  1stwarrior @12.2.1    4 months ago

I liked Ryan in the first season, but I have not watched anything since... Too busy

 
 
 
Split Personality
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12.3  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12    4 months ago

I watched three Jason Stathon movies back to back and then started streaming Agent Kim Reactivated this Saturday.

I had to rent Shelter for $1.77, lol.

Somewhere between Friday and Saturday night I did see Hail Mary, interesting concept which tries to explain evolution, ancient architecture by the moon being a billion year old ark

which surprisingly had intact Dyan wheels full of live farms but no people, a fleet of super space ships capable of building the pyramids etc

and lots of unanswered questions.  

Left in control of two new AI characters who died killing the other AI monster.

Weird.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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12.3.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Split Personality @12.3    4 months ago

Starting to like the Jason Stathon shows.  Lot of folks don't see the morale issues he brings out - and Shelter (which is on Showtime at no extra charge) is a pretty good example.

JMHO

But, speaking of Jason's - Jason Momoa's "Road to Paloma" - wow - deep on quite a few levels.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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12.3.2  Split Personality  replied to  1stwarrior @12.3.1    4 months ago

I think I saw it many years ago, i will have  to see it again I guess.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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12.4  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12    4 months ago

Buzz of the Orient, we are sticking by you!

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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12.4.1  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @12.4    4 months ago

Not Trump's Wipers!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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12.4.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @12.4    4 months ago

Being loyal to me is always appreciated.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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13  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    4 months ago

Well over 100 comments - VERY unusual for any of my articles - can't remember the last time.  However, it has strayed SO far off the topic that I can't handle it any more.  So it has had a great run, but now it's over.  I'm locking this article, and thanks to all who took it so far.

 
 

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