"Dear GOP"
https://thedailybanter.com/2017/11/dear-republicans-get-ready-to-start-losing/
Dear Republicans, Get Ready to Start Losing
The stunning Democratic sweep last night that saw them win key state legislative seats and governorships across the country was a direct "Fuck You" to the Republican Party, and a clear sign of where the country is heading in the future.
BEN COHEN
To the GOP,
Congratulations on your first lesson in karma in the era of Donald Trump! It has been a long time coming, but you've finally been made to feel the consequences of your allegiance to a bonafide lunatic who has no business being in the White House. The stunning Democratic sweep last night that saw them win key state legislative seats and governorships across the country was a direct "Fuck You" to the Republican Party, and a clear sign of where the country is heading in the future. Unfortunately for you, the direction isn't right. It's left, and there not a lot you can do about it.
This is what happens when you openly embrace xenophobia, hate and misogyny. While there are dark elements of society that you know will predictably come out and vote for you when agitated, there are always more decent people who will respond to keep them in check. We saw this in World War II when global fascism was defeated, and we're seeing it again as its bastard descendent attempts to make a comeback. Fascism-lite is still fascism, and we're not having any of it. Not now, and not ever.
This is the bed you made, and the bed you are going to have to lie in. You supported a bigoted man who openly denigrates women, insults minorities and lies through his teeth on a hourly basis. You supported a man who denies climate change, who works openly for the billionaire class and is destroying the federal government for his own callous purposes. The GOP was better than this. Not much, but it was a party filled with people who loved this country and likely wanted to make it better. That party no longer exists. Now you have a weak, divided shambles of an organization that cannot stand up to Trump and cannot win elections going forward. This is not theory, but fact as the voters delivered you a message last night that can be interpreted in no other way. The future of America is black, brown, female and tolerant. You are white, old, male and full of shit.
There was a time when liberals like myself could reach out to conservatives and engage in civil conversation. That era has gone, and the only conservatives liberals will talk to are the ones who denounce Trump and his vile brand of ethno nationalism. The rest of you are complicit in this insanity, and you will pay the price for it.
What goes up must come down. What is concealed will be revealed, and what you reap is what you sow. The reckoning for Donald Trump is coming, and you are going to learn to lose, and lose horrifically.
See you in 2018.
Tags
Who is online
87 visitors
she needs a manicure
I was just gonna say that!
So, I'm sure you felt the same way when Democrats were swept out of power around 2010 also?
How does this trend differently from other off cycle elections?
A very unpopular President with scandals arriving almost daily, barely hanging on a day without someone mentioning impeachment. The GOP is tied to him and may see a backlash the likes we haven't seen in a very long time.
I'm a leftist on most issues and I leave my house every day … I can scream rather effectively for myself and do so most often without deprecating those who tend to hurt my ears by whistling past the gave yard … unless the whistling precedes my commenting on such shrill self-deception.
To whom do you refer?
Oh please. The democrats have been salivating at the bitt to impeach someone since bill clinton was impeached. They are and have been acting like the chikdren they are and think that they have to get even for that.
Funny that more Republicans are the ones mentioning impeachment than Dems.
And Republicans announcing their retirement in record numbers citing Trump as the reason.
Wouldn't call this a trend, an awakening perhaps but not a trend. Both political parties are going through a reformation as they flounder trying to determine what American's want. Millennial's remind me of the commercial "this isn't your father's oldsmobile".
In this day of instant information ~ influence, corruption, lying is on full display for the upcoming generation. Will they tolerate the status quo...I don't think they will.
Currently the party who has decried budget neutrality for the last four years is willing to blow it out of the water. The sequester, consequences of the same, weren't so long ago to have faded from American's memory.
Very good point Lynne. this off year election is a regrets election taking the lesser of two evils in the minds of the voters. (with a heavy push of retaliation themes from the establishment democrats)
My main thinking is when the millennial's decide that they can actually do it their way...... Then watch out......
This election just might be the first sign of such.....
My main thinking is when the millennial's decide that they can actually do it their way...... Then watch out......
Science and technology are ruling their days...they scoff at traditional manufacturing, fossil fuels!
I posted this to your "Chapter Two article Mac, but it fits here also......
Another typical one year later election has the democrats absolutely ebullient.....
WOW!
Virginia means nothing. It is just an extension of the swamp with swamp creatures.
Whistling past the graveyard …
doing something (whistling, maybe?) to make of show – to others, or even more commonly, to oneself — of bravery, or at least nonchalance, in the face of danger or difficulties.
And I responded.
how many seats did the left win in Congress? none.
hate to break it to ya but state elections are not federal elections
what makes you think we care about governors and such in state elections?
what makes you think we care about governors and such in state elections?
What makes you think that your selective caring or failure to care about such phenomena isn't myopic?
You know what is ironic about this election? The people who claim that Trump influenced their decisions are saying so, because the MEDIA and PUNDITS have been saying so since November 8, 2016. That repetition is bound to have an effect, regardless of what the actual candidates campaigned on. Frankly, I would say that the biggest takeaway from this election is that the GOP needs to start following through with their promises instead of listening to McCain et al for how they should vote in the House and Senate and perhaps start enacting what Trump has asked them to enact, like a repeal of the PPACA without any sort of plan in place to replace it. Remember, all of the opponents were correct about what was in the PPACA before it was passed via "Deem and Pass" by the Democratic Congress in 2010.
What the GOP has been doing is stabbing the voters in the back, because they continuously think that acting like Liberal Democrats is the way to win and keep power. That has never been the case: each time the Republicans finally think they have power; they have done this exact same song and dance. The lead-up to them getting power is them claiming they cannot do anything because they are in the minority. Then, when they get power, they attack the person(s) who got them that power and start pushing the Democrats' agenda. They haven't learned that when you get power, you do your best to keep your promises ala Newt Gingrich and Donald Trump. BOTH got the Republicans power to pass their agenda, but in both cases the GOP turned on them even though BOTH kept their promises in the first year they were in power.
Why should anyone vote to repeal without replacing on the basis of completing a campaign pledge when it is well known that the majority of the American people oppose doing so? Is it your suggestion that Congress complete a pledge made to a small minority of the American people?
Because he/they are a**holes--that's why.
Why should anyone vote to repeal without replacing on the basis of completing a campaign pledge when it is well known that the majority of the American people oppose doing so?
To be fair, most of them just wanted to repeal Obamacare but keep the Affordable Care Act.
I would say with a huge helping of not liking change....
Pretty fair assessment Hal.....
Get rid of the most damaging aspects of it and it makes a fair step towards what we really need, SINGLE PAYOR.
But the establishment republicans can't seem to get out of their own way.....
To put taxpayer money into their own and the corporate sharks pockets....
Simple, only the far left at the time was interested in Single payer, no one in the middle and, no Republicans would support it. The PPACA was mostly Republican ideas, remember it was modeled after Mitt Romney's health plan in Mass.
Yeah and Mittsey is a democrat in drag and Romney Care was developed as a variation of Hillary Care, which excuse me was run out of every town they tried to rally support for it.
Why?
Cause the people hated it...... Next to failing to secure the presidency, Hillary's greatest failure.
Hillary care, Romney care and Obama care, the only thing absent in all of them? is actually caring for anyone other than their constituencies and the pockets of the uber wealthy.
Single payor is the only option left my friend, it would be one heck of a lot cheaper than what we got now or have ever had since the HMO's were formed.
Turn health care into a program just like social security......
The only problem is it destroys the healthcare monopoly in this country, and I have a problem understanding why that would be a problem for anyone.
Learn the truth,
Who's disagreeing here? Not me, I wanted and, still want Single Payer.
E.A How can ANYONE pay for what is an ever increasing Burden, more so yearly because of those that go out of their way to get infected?
What Family would be able to survive, when say more then 2/5 are sick and getting sicker?
If the opinion of the majority of Americans mattered, the PPACA would never have passed.
Even if that were true at the time, it's not only irrelevant now, but, based on the current record enrollment despite the Trump efforts to kill it, it's the opposite.
To be fair, most of them just wanted to repeal Obamacare but keep the Affordable Care Act.
That is factual! Many interviewees when asked if they preferred Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act, chose the Affordable Care Act having no idea the two were the same.
What many Trump supporters were hearing was "Repeal OBAMA!"
LOL, you repeal "Obamacare" you repeal the Affordable Care Act, they are one and, the same thing.
Dems generally understand that, it's the Rethugs who don't. There are some great interviews with conservative voters in Kentucky who were shocked to learn that a vote for Bevin and for Trump will likely result in the loss of their KYnect health care.
I said it already, moderate Democrats wouldn't vote for Single Payer at the time and, won't vote for it now, the PPACA was the best idea at the time THAT WOULD PASS IN BOTH HOUSE'S.
How many did the nwnj interviewers have to weed through to find those that said what they wanted to hear?
Weird, isn't it, that DEMOCRATS would pass a law forcing everyone to buy a product from a big, bad, evil corporation?
Remember asking that when a Medicare for All bill is introduced.
E.A ok here is a List to check:
Cost of Medical care
Infection Rates
Pension Funding
Cost of Housing
If all of those are at a Higher Costs that what the Community can Fund, what does that make the " community " into?
HINT:: If any member of that " community " goes out of their way to increase the Costs that does what to ALL members?
More than likely, single-payer advocates in California will have to wait until at least 2021. Even if that's the case, a universal health care bill passed by the nation's largest state is sure to be seen as a model and an inspiration across the country.
Single Payer on a national scale would BROADEN THE BASE/POOL of coverage and lower premiums because of the larger pool; and that would compel private insurers to lower premiums in order to be competitive.
Why not pose that question to the tens of millions who now have health insurance and the record number of new enrollees?
While no Republicans voted the ACA into law, they were involved in more than 100 bi-partisan meetings with regard to the bill and many amendments.
My opinion, Republicans didn't want to bite the Anti-Trust-Exempt private insurers that grease their prostituted hands.
The way the PPACA would work best is if all the states were on it but, some of the states decided not to sign on, those states have made it more expensive for the people who are signing up for the ACA to get insurance. The plan was for all states to sign up thus bringing down the cost but, it required all states to sign up. Can you guess which states didn't sign up?
I love it when Democrats attempt to blame the GOP for a bill that they alone passed.
... and that was modeled after their own ideas, as you just previously ignored. That fact just illustrates how the party of no operates.
E.A OK So are they affordable?
If not, what Party Insists that they be Paid?
IF as they are unaffordable and they are being paid by " ever increasing Debit " what does that say about the long term sustainability?
The only problem is it destroys the healthcare monopoly in this country, and I have a problem understanding why that would be a problem for anyone.
I fully understand why a lot of people would have a problem with it. Consider that the only things that can realistically bring US healthcare in line with the rest of the developed world, are massive across the board cost reductions, and tort reform that limits medical judgements to functional levels. I am down with both of those concepts, but let’s not pretend that everyone in a wide swath of medically related industries and occupations isn’t going to riot about the method that achieves those ends while decimating their livelihoods. I’ve had my occupation take dives that killed my livelihood in the past, and there was nothing I could do fight it. It’s their turn to take a bath.
E.A I am apolitical, so I ask, if the course of BOTH parties is non sustainable, what does that say about he economic system?
Now if the VOTERS can clearly see an Unsustainable system, and have NO choice but to vote from Two Bad Choices, what is that an indicator off?
Now Back to the Medical Costs, the CDC was well aware back in the 1960 of what was becoming an unsustainable Medical Load, and who/what/when forced the CDC to go Mute, and why?
That isn't correct. If broadening the pool will reduce costs, why haven't premiums decreased under the PPACA? Why haven't costs decreased?
For a number of reasons, the most impactful one being many insurers building in an "uncertainty tax."
You ask gotcha' questions … do your own homework going forward.
The reason is sticking others with the bill for freeloaders costs more it’s really simple. Insurance companies only average about four percent profit and that’s not much.
Until those who had it (actual health insurance) realized it was about to be yanked away by Rs and. boy howdy did those Rs get an earful in their downhill meetings. Now this election in VA is really going to focus other R office holders' minds on what they're facing next year.
E.A While you got 100% on the first two, you have a Fail here. do some further analytical thinking!
LOL, you repeal "Obamacare" you repeal the Affordable Care Act, they are one and, the same thing.
I’m glad you got the joke. At least I hope you got the joke.
Most states are tackling at least one of the ACA’s three major components: enforcing its market reforms and consumer protections, establishing a state-run insurance marketplace, and agreeing to its optional Medicaid expansion. Seven states have taken charge of all three. However, the researchers write, “[a]t the other end, five states — Alabama, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, and Wyoming — declined to play a role in implementing the law’s three major components. These states will not enforce the market reforms, will have a federally facilitated marketplace where the state will play no formal role, and declined to expand Medicaid.”
Here's a breakdown of what it looks like now.
Some states made their own exchanges, the five mentioned above are now, on the federal end of it but, if all states aren't on the federal side then it can't be sustained, it does require all 50 to be on the federal plan to work and, to be affordable.
Yes, I did get the joke.
You mean everyone is expecting healthcare to cost what they are currently charging? 4-5 times what it actually costs to produce?
Nah nah nah.....
SINGLE PAYOR, the government is the only payor.... and cost of manufacture plus 10% for the hard supplies and drugs and such.
Put all the middle men out of business....
Put all the health insurers out of business....
Any kind of attempt to fix the problem leaving the current profit structure in place will fail of the amount of cash that would have to be paid....
That is why everyone says it costs too much they are thinking that the current inflated profit structure must remain.
As long as it does it will cost too much, it can't remain if it is ever to work...
the house as it stands is not livable, you have to burn it down to make a new livable house.
And that is the economic vapor lock on Single Payor... (and why it will never happen)
You can trace almost all of those things to the Dems trying to get Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe on board who, it seemed to me, got what they wanted and then voted against the bill. They were so desperate to have those two votes in a pitiful attempt to look "bi-partisan" and in the end Baucus got played. There are always Dems who aren't much different that Repubs who did the same thing. Ben Nelson was the most effective at watering down the bill. He then decided not to run in 2012 making it easier for the Repubs to take control. Hell, his predecessor, Chuck Hagel, was a better Den (and man) in my opinion.
better Dem
Can't follow the conversation again.
Your just not worth it....
It prevented them from passing a better PPACA. I know you're not so naive as to think they were going to get exactly what Obama wanted (at least a public option, but that got tossed). As even Trump realized PDQ after getting into the health care debate, it's very complicated. No one seems to be willing to just send the health insurance cartel packing so that's the biggest factor for both complications and for why it's still so short of what's needed. Remember when the tea partiers were so visible and active back in 2009-2010? One of the many republican lies about what it would do was the Medicare was going away. The we saw those activists carrying signs demanding that "government should keeps its hands of my Medicare." It was properly ridiculed for the obvious reason but I bring it up now to make the point that I'd bet you couldn't find even 1 in 1,000 Medicare beneficiaries who'd say they'd give it up to go back to the private system. Maybe not even 1 in 10,000. Do you get what I'm saying?
I actually agree with all of that. Cutting the massive waste means a lot of people are going to be out of work. It could be the most chaotic thing that ever happens to this economy, and it is has the unfortunate trait that is commonly demonized as socialism. Buckle up, because our current trajectory is untenable.
Every time you make that statement, it forces me to wonder if you really are that naive about how that was just not politically possible in this country even just 8 years ago. It was considered a near miracle that any kind of health care access system reform could get passed.
Noooo. It's because in order create it's own "Medicare for All" CA would have to somehow retain or figure out a way to get back the entire amount of the Medicare portion of of taxes it pays to the federal government that was clearly going to be impossible.
Under single payer, individuals will pay premiums via taxes rather than paying them to private insurers.
Currently, 30% of premiums paid to private insurers go to advertising, CEO pay and departments that function to deny claims.
That would not be the breakdown under single payer,
Some efforts at sabotage fail ...
Imagine that ... or just consider the reality.
They made a pledge for multiple years that was not to a minority of people, otherwise they would not hold majorities in the House, Senate, and most State Legislatures and Governorships. The fact that you have forgotten that makes it show that you are wanting minority rule instead of following through with a pledge that helped get them into office.
You mean the partnership of Newt the toot and slick willie?
The most disastrous cross party alliance in American political history....
the last time Republicans actually got anything done was the last time they actually had a leader, Ronald Reagan....
Newt and Slick Willy only had a working relationship due to Slick Willy being President. Newt was one of those to bring impeachment charges against Slick Willy, or did you forget that fact?
See:
and
Notice on all 4 counts, Gingrich voted in favor of impeachment.
LOL. Healthcare is one of the main issues why Northam won by such a wide margin. Same thing in states like Maine where the voters passed by 18 points a Medicaid expansion referendum. And nationally only 27 percent of respondents approved of Trump’s handling of health care versus 57 percent who disapproved , so your side is a small minority on this issue.
Gillespie did not campaign on Trump's promises, he campaigned on his racist and xenophobic rhetoric and ran ads misrepresenting gangs from Central America as if they were in Virginia.
As for the promises ... The repeal of the ACA is unpopular among Americans as is a tax reform ruse that would be giveaways to the rich at the expense to the middle class who would lose property tax, local income tax and other deductions.
And repealing the estate tax would create a larger deficit and benefit families like the Trumps.
If I understand this, so do millions of others.
Another cool thing was that all the racist and xenophobic flyers and ads the GOP made against ethnic Sikh, Asian and Indian candidates in NJ backfired. Hoboken just got its first Sikh mayor.
That was so heartening to me. I didn't even watch any news until last night and was pleasantly surprised for a change. I can see light!
And let us not overlook the elephants-in-the-room … Trump's craziness, ignorance, stupidity, lying, narcissism, xenophobia, bigotry, bluster … bullshit …
My friend, you know better.
If you post Gillespie's ads, I'll post Northrum' ads.
The "criminal concern" ad featured a photo of a gang in El Salvador …
Gillespie, who for years pressed fellow Republicans to make their party more welcoming to minorities, unveiled a commercial that blames his Democratic rival for the resurgence of the MS-13 street gang.
As the MS-13 motto “Kill, Rape, Control” flashes across the screen, the ad criticizes Northam for voting against a bill that would have prohibited the establishment of “sanctuary cities” in the state.
“MS-13 is a menace, yet Ralph Northam voted in favor of sanctuary cities that let dangerous illegal immigrants back on the street, increasing the threat of MS-13,” a narrator says. “Ralph Northam’s policies are dangerous.”
The 30-second spot intersperses photos of Northam with the tattooed faces of men who, as it turns out, were photographed in a prison in El Salvador and were not MS-13 members but part of a rival gang, Barrio 18 - which ThinkProgress first reported and Spanish photographer Pau Coll later confirmed to The Washington Post.
The ad to which you refer was not run by Northram …
Latino Victory, an independent group aligned with the Democrats, posted an ad online that suggested Trump and supporters of Ed Gillespie, the Republican candidate for Virginia governor, are violent racists.
No excuse for such a disgusting ad, just giving discredit where discredit is due.
In that we can mostly agree; and it's because Boobys Americana elects and re-elects politicians who pander to their religiosity, race, gender and special interests at the expense of their utilitarian needs.
Gillespie also had a great ad for Jim Crow and white supremacy.
Funny that he thought that pandering to racists would help in a state which had just experienced a racist terrorist attack.
What does it take to get into the "NO LINK" club Amac?
Actually, Northam said he was more conservative on economic issues and more liberal on social issues. At one time it appeared he was about to change parties, so he isn't the typical Democrat Leader the Party has today, like those in Washington from what I've read and heard.
A triple digit IQ and an audience that doesn't play word games, use taunts in place of viable debate.
Further, an understanding of when he is casting his pearls and when he is addressing individuals and entities whose minds are not places where complicated thoughts die of loneliness.
Always happy to answer queries from the inquiring mind.
Any more questions about style while avoiding substance?
Do you qualify for membership?
The Dems win a couple of states that they should've anyway and ones that didn't vote for Trump either.
Oh well.... I guess if I had the losing track record the Dems do I'd get excited over little things too. Go ahead and just ignore all those special elections you all thought you'd win.
It would have been news had the Republican won the election. It's not news the Democrat won the election to become the next Governor. Hell, he's replacing a Democrat Governor. There's only been one Republican Governor of Virginia out of the last five Governors. Even Trump didn't win Virginia.
Take a look at this. The closer you get to the dark the deeper into the swamp you get. And these people think those people are voting for them. LOL
I won't eat your whole page up with this next one. Just click the link below.
Virginia Counties by Population