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Alabama Republican voters believe that the media and Democrats are behind allegations against Roy Moore

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  johnrussell  •  9 years ago  •  200 comments

Alabama Republican voters believe that the media and Democrats are behind allegations against Roy Moore













A new CBS News poll finds 71% of Alabama Republicans say the allegations against Roy Moore are false, and those who believe this also overwhelmingly believe Democrats and the media are behind those allegations.





























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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

The Idiocracy is in bloom in Alabama.   Moore will win, because Alabamians are too stupid or bigoted or religious right to keep him out. 

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Replying to

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists. Hannah Arendt

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago

Okay youv'e done all your name calling and smearing. Moore most likely will win because of the timing of the accusations and his policies vs Jones policies. It's that simple

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    9 years ago
Okay youv'e done all your name calling and smearing. Moore most likely will win because of the timing of the accusations and his policies vs Jones policies. It's that simple

The 14 year old (now 52) says she supported Trump in the election. It is doubtful she had political motives. She was contacted because someone gave the newspaper her name. She probably felt the need to speak out because of the Harvey Weinstein story, etc. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    9 years ago

She was contacted because the Washington Post heard rumors. They then sought the women out, encouraged them to make their claims and released the information AFTER Moore won the nomination - so that the Republicans would be stuck with him. None of it involved "journalism'

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    9 years ago

Before Moore won the nomination no one outside Alabama or the Bible Belt gave a crap about him. 

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
1.1.4  volfan  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    9 years ago

Actually I live in Alabama now...but I will speak for myself. Moore has been in the limelight his whole life...and suddenly just in the last month "all" these women have come out with this- some with Gloria tagging along behind them - which is always a red flag...so TYPICAL of the Democrat party -smear tactics are what they use (just ask Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, etc). If it is true and I say IF... and he is elected so be it; if it is true, it will follow him and he will get what he has coming to him.

Several pieces of this story are already falling apart...

the yearbook - Allred wouldn't release it to a third party for signature verification only if "  the Senate holds a hearing over the accusations against Moore". ...hmmm Why would they do that? he hasn't even been elected yet? Because they don't want him elected...the Dems need his seat and they will do anything..ANYTHING to get it. 

the manager of the Gadsden Mall said Moore was never "banned from the Mall.

Yes, I will hold my nose and vote for Moore (not my first choice) because he has some weird ideas, because I don't want some Shill donor, liberal jackass representing me in DC.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
1.1.5  lib50  replied to  volfan @1.1.4    9 years ago

Wait til you get to enjoy Alabama's reputation.  Won't be able to walk that one back.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    9 years ago

You're not getting it. Luther Strange could have won and the Post wouldn't have bothered with those women

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  volfan @1.1.4    9 years ago

Very good points. The women seem credible, though I think we can agree the yearbook is a forgery. Vote for the man's policies, just like the democrats told us to do in the days of Bill Clinton.

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
1.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    9 years ago

What makes me laugh is all of this name calling and insulting in one of many reasons why Trump is President today, and why Moore will probably be a US Senator.

Liberals cannot figure it out, but that's a good thing.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  volfan @1.1.4    9 years ago

Several pieces of this story are already falling apart...

the yearbook -

One of the women produced a graduation card today with Roy Moore's handwriting on it, handwriting that looks extremely similar to the handwriting in the yearbook. I think they got him. 

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
1.1.10  volfan  replied to  lib50 @1.1.5    9 years ago
Wait til you get to enjoy Alabama's reputation.

Apparently, according to John Russell's statements...it appears a biased, ridiculous "reputation" (though ill gotten) has already been established.

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
1.1.11  volfan  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.7    9 years ago
seem credible

Yep "seem" being the key word...wonder why they didn't bother with other hotly contested seats for 35+ years though?

remember with Democrats, it's not whether a person is guilty or not, the only thing that matters to them is the seriousness of the charge and thus creating "doubt"...unless of course it is a sitting congressional Democrat, or a Hollywood type, or a liberal media darling...funny how that works. Are the democrats demanding Franken vacate his seat? Nope...

The people of Alabama are not going to let outside influences dictate our election...I hope. That said, I have heart that they are allowing convicted felons to vote....well, there will be a slew of Dem voters in that lot thinking

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
1.1.12  volfan  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.9    9 years ago

really? I already saw that awhile back...it's old news...The Dems might have played their card a little early and wow, are they desperate....lol.

Perhaps EVERYBODY should butt out and let Alabama decide who they want...now there's a novel idea.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  volfan @1.1.11    9 years ago
wonder why they didn't bother with other hotly contested seats for 35+ years though?

They didn't have the encouragement back then, which they recently got from the Post

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  bugsy @1.1.8    9 years ago
Liberals cannot figure it out, but that's a good thing.

All they know is that "identity politics" has worked for them. Got to keep bringing people into the country if the democrats want to win elections

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.16  Vic Eldred  replied to  LMM @1.1.15    9 years ago

Lol, and your'e still confusing immigrants with illegal immigrants!

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
1.1.19  Spikegary  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.18    9 years ago

Well, she was stupid and arrogant that way.  Cost her the office.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.21  Vic Eldred  replied to  LMM @1.1.17    9 years ago

What I'm saying is democrats want to replace American voters with illegals so they can win elections. That is why we have sanctuary cities and places like CA which taxed their middle class into a total mass exodus out of the state.

As far as your link stating that Illegals voting is false - IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO SAY THAT! California wont let anyone see their voting rolls - and yes I absolutely believe illegals ARE voting in CA.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
1.1.22  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.20    9 years ago

Skirting the CoC [ph]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago

Perhaps if the media was a bit more objective people would believe it. Your'e post comes out at the same time ABC had to suspend Brian Ross for another WOPPER

 
 
 
lennylynx
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2  lennylynx    9 years ago

Wow, Alabama calls all these women liars.  They must feel like moving out of the state.

 
 
 
Rmando
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2.1  Rmando  replied to  lennylynx @2    9 years ago

Imagine how the women in Massachusettes and Arkansas felt when Dems kept electing men who were accused of rape and murder.

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
2.1.1  volfan  replied to  Rmando @2.1    9 years ago
Imagine how the women in Massachusettes and Arkansas felt when Dems kept electing men who were accused of rape and murder.

And actually DID it and everyone KNEW they did it.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.1.2  lib50  replied to  volfan @2.1.1    9 years ago
And actually DID it and everyone KNEW they did it

So OJ was innocent?   We know (even if you don't) about Roy Moore too.  You believe what you want, but why the Moore accusers came forward when they did is not a mystery.  After the Weinstein thing broke, the dam burst.  It didn't just break on Moore its in business, Holllywood, Washington and every state, so your wonderment and confusion is disingenuous.  They are still coming forward, and if you want to disbelieve these REPUBLICAN WOMEN, when there are solid corroboration with so many, is disgusting.  Because you believe proven LIARS like Trump!  Do you disbelieve his accusers too?  But you still try to push lies about Hillary.  Proven lies.  Why so keen to hitch yourself to that?  Are politics more important that your daughters, or are Moore supporters all good with old farts hooking up with pure underage girls?   Sounds more like perversion to the rest of the country.  Then again,  same people support a pussygrabber.  Enjoy your time while you can.  Young women will not put up with republican shit overall.    Alabama is about to earn a new state motto. 

Here's a new one for you.  Don't say you didn't know when you vote.  You are making a conscious choice to ignore the accusations against Moore.   Your 'doubts' are nothing more than a way to save face with yourself. 

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
2.1.3  volfan  replied to  lib50 @2.1.2    9 years ago
So OJ was innocent?   We know (even if you don't) about Roy Moore too.

OJ has nothing to do with this....these are only ALLEGATION from women. Do you not believe in innocent until proven guilty? I do...and like I said, if he gets in and this is found to be the case, then he will face the music - as he should, but if not; a man's character has been assassinated, yet again, on the altar of lies and innuendo...but I guess that is ok if he's a Pub, right? 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
2.1.5  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @2.1.4    9 years ago

every time a girl threw herself at me and I did not grab the pussy?  she got mad at me.    I am never making that mistake again.

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
2.2  volfan  replied to  lennylynx @2    9 years ago

pfft...

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3  bugsy  replied to  lennylynx @2    9 years ago

The reason why they are looked at as liars is because they waited 40 years to come out against someone who has ran many campaigns and never came out during any of them, but when the election has national implications, these women "feel" the need to speak out. Classic case of liberals using their feelings to make their decisions. Never works out well.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.1  lib50  replied to  bugsy @2.3    9 years ago

Bullshit.  They came forward after Weinstein broke and women started coming forward and the dam burst across the spectrum, business, Hollywood, politics.  You act as if Moore is happening in a goddamn vacuum!  He is just the most perverted, going after young underage girls.  And don't pretend this comes out of nowhere.  The asshole was attracted to his current wife when she was 16.   Vote and support him and don't be surprised when it catches up, it will eventually.  Alabama's reputation is about to go down the crapper.  And you are defending this at the expense of women who were harmed by him when they were kids. 

 
 
 
magnoliaave
Sophomore Silent
2.3.2  magnoliaave  replied to  lib50 @2.3.1    9 years ago

I call BS on your statements.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.3  lib50  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.2    9 years ago

Well get specific. 

And I've got plans tonight, so I'll have to come back when I can. 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
2.3.4  bugsy  replied to  lib50 @2.3.1    9 years ago

Nope. My post stands. Ask them why they waited until very recently to come out against Moore. The "I felt obligated" excuse is bullshit.

Weinstein is just another example of typical liberalism, as the count today is something like 25 libs to 2 republicans who are sexual predators. The second republican is a state rep who paid 87,000 dollars in hush money, much like Conyers, a democrat did with taxpayer money

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3.5  bugsy  replied to  bugsy @2.3    9 years ago

BTW, I find it funny how you say that Alabama's reputation will go down the tubes, when, your entire posting life on here and NV demeaned, discredited, insulted and name called anything southern US.

Maybe it's time to come out of your tiny blue dot liberal enclave and see how the real world lives.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.3.7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  bugsy @2.3.5    9 years ago
demeaned, discredited, insulted and name called anything southern US.

If the South stopped sending phalanxes of scumbag perverts to Congress things might change.  Until then the South deserves every bit of shit it gets. 

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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2.3.8  magnoliaave  replied to  lib50 @2.3.3    9 years ago

I will be here tomorrow.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
Sophomore Silent
2.3.9  magnoliaave  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.3.7    9 years ago

The South gets your perverts coming from the North.

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
2.3.10  volfan  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.2    9 years ago
I call BS on your statements.

Me too. Lame.

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
2.3.12  volfan  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.3.7    9 years ago
If the South stopped sending phalanxes of scumbag perverts to Congress

You mean like John Conyers (Michigan), Anthony's Weiner (NY), Al Weird Franken (MN),etc?  Wow, those dern southern states...pfft.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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2.3.13  lennylynx  replied to  bugsy @2.3    9 years ago

Liberals?  These women who are accusing Moore are all liberals??  Are you sure about this?

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.17  lib50  replied to  LMM @2.3.15    9 years ago
Incredible that RWers are missing the significant historical moment we are living in.

They ignore it on purpose, wanting to believe this is just a political thing, even as they use it to go after others (dems etc). 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.18  lib50  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.2    9 years ago

Well which one? 

The one where women are coming forward ACROSS THE SPECTRUM?  It isn't just Moore, so that is a FACT. 

The one where Moore's accusers are republican?  (at least 3)  Voted for Trump?

Three of the women who have accused Alabama GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore of making advances on them when they were teenagers, including both of the women who have accused Moore of sexually abusing them, are reportedly Republicans.

That Moore’s alleged victims are Republicans appears to work against the Moore campaign’s defense that the accusations are made up for political purposes.

The one where Moore has a predilection for underage girls? Or has a problems with women?  (The guy admits it)

And while he called the story “completely false and misleading,” he said he “didn’t dispute” that he used to date girls as young as 16.

Moore on whether he dated teenagers while in his 30s: “Not generally, no”

Hannity pressed Moore on whether he had dated girls in their teens when he was in 30s. “Not generally, no,” the former judge said in response.

We need to talk about the segment of American culture that probably doesn't think the allegations against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore are particularly damning, the segment that will blanch at only two accusations in the Washington Post expose : He pursued a 14-year-old-girl without first getting her parents' permission, and he initiated sexual contact outside of marriage. That segment is evangelicalism. In that world, which Moore travels in and I grew up in, 14-year-old girls courting adult men isn't uncommon.

Another lecture included in the course, titled “What the Bible Says About Female Magistrates,” argues that the Bible does not allow women to hold political office. The lecture, by William Einwechter, a teaching elder at a Pennsylvania church, criticizes the women’s suffrage movement, which won women the right to vote. 

“By and large, the issue of the female magistrate ruling in authority in America would not have been anywhere near as controversial,” says a second man introducing Einwechter’s lecture, according to ThinkProgress. “The controversy was beginning to brew with the women’s suffrage movement.”

“One of the most destructive ideologies of the last 50, hundred years have been the doctrines of feminism, which have transformed our culture and have paved the way for abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, undermined our church, and subverted the doctrines of the biblical family,” Einwechter later says.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.19  lib50  replied to  bugsy @2.3.4    9 years ago

You know, it took a lot to bring the hammer down on a lot of public people I used to like, including politicians.  So I totally understand all of you not wanting to believe something that reflects badly on people you like and want in a job.   But if you continue to hold different standards for yourself and political party, don't expect the rest of us to let the lie go unchallenged.  Why don't you SPECIFICALLY tell me what you don't (want to) believe about what I said.   

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.20  lib50  replied to  bugsy @2.3.5    9 years ago
I find it funny how you say that Alabama's reputation will go down the tubes,

Don't believe it?  If he gets elected, you won't have to wait long to see it.

 
 
 
JenSiNner
Freshman Silent
2.3.21  JenSiNner  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.2    9 years ago

It's all BS, eh Mags?  The dam bursts and women are feeling empowered and strengthened by the sheer volume of revelations and there is protection in the numbers, but for you, it's all BS.  Some of these women don't live in AL any longer and don't want a man like Roy in the Senate and I don't blame them.  I guess it's age that keeps some women from supporting others that are speaking truth to skeevy predators and that's too bad.  It's showing just how shrewish GOP women are.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
2.3.24  Spikegary  replied to  LMM @2.3.15    9 years ago

WHy didn't they come forward locally?  To local news, it was only when the Washington Post came calling that they suddenly felt empowered?

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
2.3.25  Spikegary  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.3.23    9 years ago

I heard it was an enforced vacation.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
2.3.26  Spikegary  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.3.7    9 years ago

You mean like.....Massachusetts sending Kennedy for all those years?.......oh wait.....NYC sending Weiner?  Oh wait......

 
 
 
JenSiNner
Freshman Silent
2.3.27  JenSiNner  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.3.23    9 years ago

What's with all the red flags, BF?  Does that mean that wingers are unhappy with the comment because it doesn't pass the magic scratch and sniff test?

 
 
 
magnoliaave
Sophomore Silent
2.3.29  magnoliaave  replied to  JenSiNner @2.3.21    9 years ago

Where did I say BS to all women who have come forward to cry out "me too"?

I guess you can't follow the conversation.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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2.3.30  magnoliaave  replied to  lib50 @2.3.18    9 years ago

It really wasn't necessary for you to give a dissertation on this subject as I am fully aware of all this.  Most of us are!

But, thanks, for taking the time.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.3.31  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.11    9 years ago
So why do Democrats spend so much money trying to win seats in the South when we can plainly tell y'all hate us?

We're trying to save the country from you. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.3.33  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  volfan @2.3.12    9 years ago
You mean like John Conyers (Michigan), Anthony's Weiner (NY), Al Weird Franken (MN),etc?  Wow, those dern southern states...pfft.

No, I mean the Blake Farentholds, Joe Bartons, Scott Desjarlaises, Vance McAllisters, and soon to be Roy Moores, etc. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.3.34  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  bugsy @2.3.5    9 years ago
BTW, I find it funny how you say that Alabama's reputation will go down the tubes

It is hard to believe it could go down any further than it already is but Roy Moore's election will certainly accomplish that. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.3.35  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Spikegary @2.3.26    9 years ago

Like your pedophiles, do ya? 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.36  lib50  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.30    9 years ago

So I guess it wasn't BS after all. 

Look I understand wanting something to not be true.  I know the first inclination is to defend.  I made a choice at the beginning of this to not allow politics to change it for me.  And I haven't.  Conyers just resigned.  A lot of California democrats are going through it here.  I don't care, this has to shake out the way it has to.  I also understand how fast the public opinion changed on this, and that some things don't seem 'fair' after it happened 'so long ago' or what have you.  But it was wrong then and now.  And if you are in a position like most of these powerful men, you will find it hard to keep it in the past.  Because younger women have decided this is no longer happening, and our age women feel empowered to come forward too.  I realize you dealt with things in your own way in the past, as have I, but millions of women lost jobs over coming forward.  Take out the ideology and look again.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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2.3.37  magnoliaave  replied to  lib50 @2.3.36    9 years ago

I do believe, although, I may be incorrect.  My issue with you was AL and Moore.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.3.38  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.29    9 years ago
Where did I say BS to all women who have come forward to cry out "me too"?

Your support of a sexual predator of children (and, yes, 14 and even 16 year olds are still children) like Moore is what says that.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.3.39  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  bugsy @2.3.4    9 years ago
Ask them why they waited until very recently to come out against Moore.

As irrelevant for Moore as it is for Franken and Trump and every other situation where years have passed

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.3.40  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  LMM @2.3.16    9 years ago

It may not be so much that they're missing it as they only want it to apply to everyone but themselves and their politicians.  Twas ever thus with them and ever will be. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.3.41  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.32    9 years ago
Seems like an awful waste since you don't seem to think the South has any redeeming qualities.

Hope springs eternal. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.3.42  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  lennylynx @2.3.13    9 years ago
These women who are accusing Moore are all liberals??

Oh, yeah and part of the LBGTQ conspiracy to ruin all their "moral values" (like pedophilia, apparently).  

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.44  lib50  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.37    9 years ago

I do believe the Moore's victims.  I've read their stories and they ring true, and he himself fits right into that, in his words and actions.  And that of evangelicals and their opinion of females.  So it is harder to deny the stories and defend Moore when you look at things from a broad perspective.  As for Alabama, a state where a beloved cousin lives, if you do vote in an accused pedophile, you must understand the state will be judged by the rest of us.  And it won't be pretty.  That is just what will happen, like it or not.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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2.3.45  magnoliaave  replied to  lib50 @2.3.44    9 years ago

The South will always be relentlessly denigrated, particularly, AL. 

We will not vote for our Senator based on what others "think".  We don't tell you what to do, so, return the courtesy.

I WILL vote for Judge Moore!

Whether he wins or loses is OUR decision.  The voters in the Great State of Alabama!

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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2.3.46  magnoliaave  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.3.38    9 years ago

If that is what you think......carry on!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Guide
2.3.47  Sparty On  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.45    9 years ago

Good for you.

Like most Americans the sanctimonious rantings of east and west coast  liberal elitists is just plain old white noise.   Tough to get rid of but sooner or later you get used to it and learn to just ignore it.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
Sophomore Silent
2.3.49  magnoliaave  replied to  LMM @2.3.48    9 years ago

Let me tell you something.  My sexual assault was at work and he was not my boss.  He could have been the King and I would have reported him just like I did.

Get over it because, obviously, you have after 30 years.  But, geez, you wait 30 years and this person you accused has a wife, kids, a career and you dump on him?  What for?

You could better serve the women of this world by stating your sexual abuse (without destroying families) and lecture the young women of today that they don't have to put up with it.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.3.53  lib50  replied to  magnoliaave @2.3.45    9 years ago
The South will always be relentlessly denigrated, particularly, AL.

It is happening now for specific reasons, actions coming from your state and your people.  A lot of racism.  Now perversion.  Not everybody, of course.  But something is happening next week that will have a MAJOR impact of how Alabama is seen.   At the very least, other states have economic impacts as well when they do things considered immoral or unacceptable.  What disappoints me is that women in Alabama know damn well deep down these women are telling the truth.  Because same people believe all kinds of things when they want to. That choice is voting for a man who misused young girls because they are angry 'liberals' will win because somehow this is all their fault we are talking about sexual abuse nationally.  Even as established liberals get forced out.  Your excuse is cowardly,  making pathetic political excuses  to mask the fact ideology is more important than sexual abuse. If hes voted in, the light will shine even brighter on him, so better prepare if he wins.  Holding office obviously doesn't protect a person anymore.  Its only a matter of time before it gets to Trump as well.  But until then,'I'll show you' is more important than reputation in Alabama.

 
 
 
Rmando
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4  Rmando    9 years ago

After the parade of Democrat abusers that have been exposed since the Roy Moore accusers came out- and all were exposed with real evidence like photos and payouts- and since no one has put out any actual proof against Moore (what ever happened to that yearbook?) I can't blame Alabama if they elect him.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Rmando @4    9 years ago

You make a little bit of a good point, but just a little. After it became clear that Alabama Republicans would vote for Moore no matter what, some of the accusers may in fact have lost their appetite for the fight. Why bang their heads against the wall? 

 
 
 
Rex Block
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4.1.1  Rex Block  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    9 years ago

I'd like to know why the young lady went to see him again the next day. Did she "like it"?

The left wing plays dirty trick so often and with such abandon that the voters are wise to them....and all their hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.1.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    9 years ago
After it became clear that Alabama Republicans would vote for Moore no matter what, some of the accusers may in fact have lost their appetite for the fight. Why bang their heads against the wall?

Not so, John.  It was just last week when Moore started going out on the stump after a short disappearance and started lying openly about not ever meeting or knowing any of these girls that they started firing back, with Ms. Gibson (who up til now had nothing to say against him) being the latest one.  Leigh Corfman issued another statement excoriating his lying ass.  These women, of course, are receiving death threats as is the m.o. for the stinking rightwing chickenshits but they have not backed down.  

 
 
 
volfan
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4.1.3  volfan  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    9 years ago
After it became clear that Alabama Republicans would vote for Moore no matter what

Nope, he lost a ton of support...and the GOP pulled out too, but like I said the Dems started slinging crap against the wall too early and they don't believe the drip, drip, drip anymore because recent events that the mainstream media doesn't bother to cover has made people think twice about what is actually going on here on the part of establishment dems and some Pubs too.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Rmando @4    9 years ago
and since no one has put out any actual proof against Moore (what ever happened to that yearbook?)

It can't be said too many times:   The evidence against Moore which you reject is exactly the same for all of those other men which you accept without question.  That immorality and hypocrisy couldn't be more blatant.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.2.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to    9 years ago

Yep and trying to compare Clinton to the child sexual predator Moore illustrates the warped morality not to mention of the rightwing.  It's that good ol' "whataboutism" that's never equivalent that makes the rightwing a laughing stock when it tries to play the morality card.  

 
 
 
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4.2.5  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.4    9 years ago
Want to try to lose another 1000 seats?

That seems to be the go-to escape route for you when you don't have anything else.  Let's see how 2018 plays out, shall we? 

 
 
 
volfan
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4.2.8  volfan  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.2    9 years ago
The evidence against Moore which you reject is exactly the same for all of those other men which you accept without question

Franken had pictures and audio and admitted it, Weiner had pictures and is serving time in a nice little cushy pervert house...Conyers has admitted...Moore has admitted nothing and there are no pictures, audios, tapes, emails, etc. 

That is the difference.

 
 
 
volfan
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4.2.9  volfan  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.6    9 years ago
I have heard for years how Democrats were going to win. In fact, I heard it every single year WHILE you were losing those 1000 seats.

Hell, even a broken clock is right twice a day. 

When are you going to start winning?

I bow to you

 
 
 
Rex Block
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4.2.14  Rex Block  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.13    9 years ago

She claims she WAS. Any intelligent and rational person would believe her. Why would she bring this up at all if it was just a joke??

 
 
 
lib50
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5  lib50    9 years ago

Its really interesting, there is no conspiracy theory too wild to discount against any democrat.  When it comes to a political fight there is nothing a republican can do to lose a voter.  Of course you don't believe the women.  You also do believe a person who lies every single day - publicly and provably.  I watched people just like you believe that Cheney war narrative.  Until it became impossible to hold their head up, suddenly their support evaporated and they denied they ever had.  Now you even try to push fake news as real(it just used to be called talking points) and call real news fake.  I guess there are a lot of uneducated or highly ideological people who want to do that.  Just don't fool yourselves into believing its actually real.  We know eventually it will be undeniable.  Alabama will likely encounter a huge backlash if Moore is elected, and republicans will have their amorally perverted values on full display for the world. And that won't be forgotten by anybody, especially history.  Some fucked up values there.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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5.1  magnoliaave  replied to  lib50 @5    9 years ago

You want a political fight, I am ready.

We worked hard to take away The Democratic Party during the Wallace years...Democrats.  In 1974 I moved to AL.  Worked hard to make AL Republican and you and yours can't take it back.

The Democratic Party screwed you right and left. 

I will vote for Moore.  Why?  Because I want to. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.1.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  magnoliaave @5.1    9 years ago
I will vote for Moore.  Why?  Because I want to.

Fine, just don't go around telling us how moral and decent you are.  Oh, and that ridiculous claim that it was Republicans who got rid of Wallace.  It was Dems who moved away from the Jim Crow South after enacting the CRAs of 1964 and 1965 and repudiated that past.  Republicans eagerly stepped into that void and embraced it. All your attempts to rewrite history to make you look better are not going to change it. 

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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5.1.2  magnoliaave  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1.1    9 years ago

BS

Don't tell me what I know. 

We rewrote history in AL and let me tell you something that it wasn't easy.  Are you trying to tell me that Democrats were the reason why the State went Republican?  Well, if you are, then, what a load of piss poor Democrats. 

They let us just step in without a fight?  BS

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.1.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  magnoliaave @5.1.2    9 years ago

You're selling a lie.  A huge,disgusting, filthy lie.  Until you admit it you're going to keep seeing those words from me.  

 
 
 
volfan
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5.1.4  volfan  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1.1    9 years ago
Fine, just don't go around telling us how moral and decent you are.

I don't think she has...you are making crap up now?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.1.5  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @5.1.2    9 years ago
Are you trying to tell me that Democrats were the reason why the State went Republican?

Did you ever hear of this?

Southern Democrats joined the Republican Party after the Civil Rights Act was passed in Congress and, signed by LBJ a southern Democrat.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.1.7  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.6    9 years ago

He was also a believer in Civil Rights, which the Dixiecrats who joined the Republican Party were not.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.1.9  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.8    9 years ago

Hope this helps.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.1.14  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.13    9 years ago

You really don't "get" me do you? Yes, I'm a registered Democrat but, unlike the politicians which infest both party's and, some of the Independent party's I believe in saying when I'm wrong. I know this is unusual but, it is something I believe needs to be done today. Can you say the same? Do you "fess up" when you're wrong? I've yet to see it from you.

 
 
 
volfan
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5.1.16  volfan  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @5.1.5    9 years ago
/Southern_strategy

Lame...lame...lame....

 
 
 
volfan
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5.1.17  volfan  replied to  magnoliaave @5.1.2    9 years ago

Hey Mag...one day we are going to have to get together...I am about an hour from Tuscaloosa, where are you located approx?

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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5.1.18  magnoliaave  replied to  volfan @5.1.17    9 years ago

Hi....I am an hour from Gulf Shores.

 
 
 
Rex Block
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5.1.19  Rex Block  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.1.1    9 years ago

The Democrats were dragged kicking and screaming into finally signing on to the CRA's of 1964 and 65. You can't change history or the reality of the truth.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.21  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Rex Block @5.1.19    9 years ago
The Democrats were dragged kicking and screaming into finally signing on to the CRA's of 1964 and 65. You can't change history or the reality of the truth.

Are you lying or ignorant?   There is no other possibility. 

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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5.2  magnoliaave  replied to  lib50 @5    9 years ago

I will agree.....Democrats have fucked up values!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  magnoliaave @5.2    9 years ago
I will agree.....Democrats have fucked up values!

And there you go:  right after you proudly announce you're going to vote for a sexual predator in order to keep another scumbag, degenerate from AL in the Senate you try to play the moral superiority card.  It's been the joker for decades.  Anyone  with any decency sees what you are.  

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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5.2.2  magnoliaave  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.2.1    9 years ago

Give me a break!  Do you really think that your posting "anyone with any decency sees what you are" is going to make me back away in a corner and cower? 

Then, if Moore is a predator you know something that I don't.  Please link to that.  I missed it.

I will vote for Moore once on Tues and three times on Thurs. 

If he loses, the people have spoken.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  magnoliaave @5.2.2    9 years ago

One of the woman produced a sample of Moore's handwriting that appears to match the handwriting in the yearbook of the woman who says Moore sexually assaulted her when she was 16. 

That should give you something to think about Magnolia. 

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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5.2.5  magnoliaave  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.3    9 years ago

Mr. Russell, I have thought about all of this long and hard.  You know that I would.

No one anyhow, anywhere Is going to denigrate the South.  Sweep around their own door before coming to mine.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2.6  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  magnoliaave @5.2.2    9 years ago
going to make me back away in a corner and cower?

Of course not.  Your warped moral compass would never allow you to do that.  What you "know" is known as the Big Lie.  So big and important to you that you'll never give it up. All I plan to do is keep reminding you of that every time I get the chance and, brother, do you give me a lot of those.  No, by all means, keep it up.  I enjoy this.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2.7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to    9 years ago
And you are right also.

Doesn't that fence hurt your ass?  

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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5.2.10  magnoliaave  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @5.2.6    9 years ago

You are and have always been an inconsequential entity on NT for me.

See ya tomorrow..  Have a good night.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to    9 years ago

check the other article i seeded about Moore.  One of the other women has produced a sample of Moore's writing from another source that pretty much matches what was in the yearbook. 

It's him. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2.12  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.3    9 years ago
That should give you something to think about Magnolia.

Now that's funny....Skirting the CoC [ph]

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2.15  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  magnoliaave @5.2.10    9 years ago

Watching you runaway has already made it good night.  By the way, one of the reasons that lie about Republicans showing Wallace the door is the fact that when Wallace ran for president in 1968 he had to run on the American Independent Party.  The Dems wouldn't touch him.  But he got Nixon elected and we know what a great* president he was. 

* as in pile of shit. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2.16  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to    9 years ago
No it's a little uncomfortable however.

No shit? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.18  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to    9 years ago

So his secretary signed one girls yearbook and also signed another girls graduation card. 

That is your story? 

 
 
 
volfan
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5.2.19  volfan  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.11    9 years ago

LOL, that article? The new one today...yes...OMG, it is SOOOO incriminating /s/:

Debbie Wesson Gibson was in her attic hauling out boxes of Christmas decorations last week when she noticed a storage bin she said she had forgotten about. Inside was a scrapbook from her senior year of high school, and taped to a page titled “Those Who Inspire” was a graduation card.

“ Happy graduation Debbie,” it read in slanted cursive handwriting. “I wanted to give you this card myself. I know that you’ll be a success in anything you do. Roy .”

Well that's it...it is definitely proof that an illicit affair with a minor was going on!! Puleeze! For the love of God, people...THIS is your EVIDENCE? A comment in a high school graduation card that was benign of any sexual references? And she just "happened" to pull the card out last week? Good grief. They are getting ridiculous now! 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.20  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  volfan @5.2.19    9 years ago

Volfan, the new information indicates that Moore did know these women when they were 16 or 17 year olds, even though he now denies knowing them. 

And the graduation card shows , through a handwriting comparison, that Moore did write the message in the yearbook of the girl who says Moore sexually assaulted her. This is hardly "nothing", although what effect it will have on the Alabama voters might be negligible. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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5.2.21  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.20    9 years ago

I don't think it will matter to them, even if they caught him in bed with a 14 year old girl, they would still vote for him. Now, if it was a 14 year old boy, things would be different.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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5.2.23  Spikegary  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.20    9 years ago

I can just imagine my teacher from 40+ years ago remembering writing in my year book, I guess that's a sign of sexual assault.  Wonder if the Washpo will be in touch with me?

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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5.2.24  Explorerdog  replied to  Spikegary @5.2.23    9 years ago

Probably not, but it does raise the question about how many entries you have made as a middle age man in the yearbooks of students and not being a teacher.If moore had been a guest speaker at the school i would say it is probable that he would make an entry and no recollection, but don't forget two weeks ago I remembered them quite well and now no memory at all. It seems that the only thing missing is for him to get caught in bed with a live boy or a dead girl, even then his supporters would say he was counseling them.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2.25  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Spikegary @5.2.23    9 years ago
I can just imagine my teacher from 40+ years ago remembering writing in my year book, I guess that's a sign of sexual assault.  Wonder if the Washpo will be in touch with me?

Is the new gambit to pretend Predator Moore was the girl's teacher?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2.26  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to    9 years ago
That is profound (No shit) you are a genius.

It was question (as in, "really?") not a pronouncement.  

 
 
 
volfan
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5.2.27  volfan  replied to  Spikegary @5.2.23    9 years ago
I can just imagine my teacher from 40+ years ago remembering writing in my year book, I guess that's a sign of sexual assault.  Wonder if the Washpo will be in touch with me?

EXACTLY....

 
 
 
volfan
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5.2.28  volfan  replied to  Spikegary @5.2.23    9 years ago
I can just imagine my teacher from 40+ years ago remembering writing in my year book, I guess that's a sign of sexual assault.  Wonder if the Washpo will be in touch with me?

EXACTLY....

 
 
 
volfan
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5.2.29  volfan  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.22    9 years ago
  I will agree.....Democrats have fucked up values!

That's fucking hilarious!

   praying   True, the Dems have none...

 
 
 
volfan
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5.2.30  volfan  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.22    9 years ago
  I will agree.....Democrats have fucked up values!

That's fucking hilarious!

   praying   True, the Dems have none...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.31  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  volfan @5.2.27    9 years ago

Moore claimed he didnt know the girl with the yearbook. The news that came out yesterday appears to indicate that he wrote in her high school yearbook.

If you don't think that should be problematic for him I would have to question your reasoning and judgement.

 
 
 
volfan
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6  volfan    9 years ago

Actually, I am glad the public is finally catching on to the stupid games Dems play!

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7  Skrekk    9 years ago

Here's a video clip from the woman whom Moore dated when she was 17 and he was 34, but whom Moore now denies he ever met her or knew her:

Too bad for Moore that she kept the evidence in her scrap book.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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7.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Skrekk @7    9 years ago
Too bad for Moore that she kept the evidence in her scrap book.

Has that 36-year-old "evidence" been forensically verified? Debbie Wesson Gibson has a sketchy past. Other than that, thanks for sharing that video.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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7.1.1  Skrekk  replied to  Jasper2529 @7.1    9 years ago

Elections are trials in the court of public opinion not a court of law.

 
 
 
nightwalker
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8  nightwalker    9 years ago

Well, we've come to this, some people want to vote in a person who has been kicked out of office TWICE because he refuses to recognize Federal laws? LOL REALLY? Moore thinks Alabama is a mighty empire that HE rules, so any Federal laws he doesn't like don't count and he lets them Yankees say his empire is part of the U.S. because they pour money into his pocket..umm state.

But when he has enough, he'll revel the mighty Nation of Alabama to the world, run everybody not white or right enough out of his kingdom, (except he'll re-instate slavery and he'll need somebody not white for that, it doesn't look good) burn down all the schools, smash the computers and smart phones, and build more churchs and go back to growin' cotton like god intended.

Moore knows what god wants, they have dinner every night unless Moore has a date with a upper-school or high-school girl. (with her mother's permission, of course) and god told Moore over coffee that he wants Moore to rule Alabama.

I don't think he'd like being on the hill, he wouldn't get the respect he thinks he deserves and certainly wouldn't get the instant obedience he craves.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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8.1  magnoliaave  replied to  nightwalker @8    9 years ago

Wow, you really know a lot about AL.....thank you 'cause I didn't know this.

BTW.....we still grow cotton! 

Have a great day!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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8.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  nightwalker @8    9 years ago
Well, we've come to this, some people want to vote in a person who has been kicked out of office TWICE because he refuses to recognize Federal laws?

So, that being the case, what is your opinion of sanctuary cities and states? How do you feel about states legalizing recreational marijuana? How do you feel about a POTUS suing a whole state because the federal government wasn't doing their job?

This is gonna be fun..........................

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Until Moore can explain why the handwriting (his) in the scrapbook matches the handwriting that another person has in her yearbook, he cannot seriously claim not to have known these women when they were teenage girls. In other words, when he says he never knew them he is lying. What else is he lying about? The truth is Moore has to be considered guilty until proven innocent, because he has lied about some aspects of this.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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9.1  magnoliaave  replied to  JohnRussell @9    9 years ago

I may be wrong, but isn't innocent until proven guilty?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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9.1.1  arkpdx  replied to  magnoliaave @9.1    9 years ago

According to liberals if one is a conservative just the accusation is enough. No further evidense is needed 

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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9.1.2  magnoliaave  replied to  arkpdx @9.1.1    9 years ago

See, I really don't understand this thinking.

There have been so many accusers to come out lately against so many men that I do question it.  And, I am accused of being against women because I don't join the bandwagon believing all of them.

I have never done that in my life....joining a lynch mob and I won't start now.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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9.2  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @9    9 years ago
The truth is Moore has to be considered guilty until proven innocent,

That's not how legal and judicial laws work in the USA, John, but I'm sure you already know this.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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9.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @9    9 years ago

You know what, I can't remember people I met or even a majority of those I went to school with 30+ years ago even though they may have had an affect on my life. I really don't know WTF you liberals are expecting a 70+ year old man to remember about 40 years ago. Hell, even if I saw them in person I wouldn't probably be able to associate the face and name (that I probably forgot anyway). So, you have a bunch of now middle aged (and by the looks of a couple of them, not well aged) women this many years later that he "may" have known all those years ago and he can't say that he knows who they are and you're fucking surprised?

Well color me surprised.........NOT

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.3    9 years ago

Roy Moore claims the signature on the left is a forgery...but it sure looks a lot like the one on the right.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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9.3.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    9 years ago

Sorry can't see the photos but, if the same person signed them, say ohhhh I dunno maybe a secretary or admin assistant, WOULDN'T they look the same?

Okay saw the pics (had to look on my phone as Twitter is blocked here). Yep, they look the same. Where is the "DA" in the photos?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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9.3.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.3.2    9 years ago
I dunno maybe a secretary or admin assistant, WOULDN'T they look the same?

You mean you think he took a secretary along with him to the mall in order to sign girls' yearbooks?  I wonder why he didn't think of that.  It's BRILLIANT.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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9.3.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @9.3.3    9 years ago

And where was it expressed that he "went to the mall to sign yearbooks"?  Last I heard, the "DA" after his name was the initials of and an indication that his assistant signed the yearbook. You know something newer? As far as the graduation card, who signs those on the spot, why would not and assistant DA have "people" to do that among other things of a menial priority?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.3.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.3.4    9 years ago
And where was it expressed that he "went to the mall to sign yearbooks"?  Last I heard, the "DA" after his name was the initials of and an indication that his assistant signed the yearbook. You know something newer? As far as the graduation card, who signs those on the spot, why would not and assistant DA have "people" to do that among other things of a menial priority?

Roy Moore claims all along that he has never met the girl with the yearbook and has never heard of her when she was in high school. Then, if that is true, why would he have had his assistant or secretary sign the girl's yearbook? 

See, Just Jim, your attempt to minimize his evil has ensnared you in nonsense as well. Nice going. 

Barring Moore having a reasonable explanation for his handwriting in a yearbook of a teenage girl who says he molested her that year, but he claims he never met, we can only assume he is lying about it and thus is guilty. 

Wait, maybe his secretary molested the girl. crazy

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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9.3.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.5    9 years ago

So, if someone walks up to you today, that you met 38 years ago and had to deal with at the time over a weeks time say, for business reasons. Asks you if you remember hanging out with them and times you had at the strip club in Louisville, Kentucky at a convention and the fact you gave him your business card so that you could meet up again the next year. But you never hear from him again. Are you going to be able to recall the guys name and all the details of your interaction? If you have an eidetic memory maybe. But it's going to be foggy and probably, if an insignificant event in your life or MAYBE even one you don't want to remember, are you going to be able to?

That's all I'm saying. As a supposed big shot assistant DA, I am sure there were a lot of people he met that really didn't present any real significance but were a perceived asset at the time. I realize not the case with these girls but in his adult dealings. You know, positional arrogance. (I think I just made up a new term, LOL)

I'm not trying to justify his bullshit if indeed he did what is being levied. I am trying to see it from an outside perspective and with the innocent until proven guilty standpoint.

It's kind of like the accusation being made by the contestant on "The Apprentice" now that Mr. Trump kissed her on the lips without her permission. No pictures, no witnesses, then no dice in that one. It will be a he said she said and a "claim" of consensual could be thrown in to muddy the truth.  I don't expect anything of the sort in Moore's case but, there is such a thing as the burden of proof. And as has been stated here and elsewhere, this is serious shit that is ruining lives not only of the perps but also those they surround themselves with. I just don't know where to see this thing going..........except that now it will hang over his head for a loooooooooooonnnnnngg time.

And, please leave snark out of conversations with me. I know it's hard for you but I try not to let the fact you are a dyed in the wool liberal Democrat fog my interaction with you and would appreciate the same courtesy.

 
 
 
Rex Block
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9.3.7  Rex Block  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.3.6    9 years ago

The left wingers have played this game for so long that they thought they could get away with it again. Sadly, they blew it this time....the smear campaign in all its ugliness is just two obvious and not true.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.3.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.3.6    9 years ago

You seem to change the parameters of your analysis according to what you need to say at that moment to defend Moore. 

He has lied about not knowing these girls. In itself that should disqualify him for office, considering that two of the girls he has lied about knowing say he sexually molested them. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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9.3.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Rex Block @9.3.7    9 years ago

I eagerly await the day you say something interesting or true. It's kind of been a long wait already and growing. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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9.3.10  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.3.6    9 years ago

But it's going to be foggy and probably, if an insignificant event in your life or MAYBE even one you don't want to remember, are you going to be able to?

Is child molestation insignificant to you?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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9.3.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.8    9 years ago

How many times in RECENT history and concerning RECENT events have we heard the "I don't recall" bullshit?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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9.3.12  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @9.3.10    9 years ago

Nice reach. Of course not and that example was thrown to John about a "possible" dealing he may have had in the distant past.

But you knew that already didn't you...........SMH

And my conversation with him is one of the A-B type.

 
 

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