Enraged President Trump reportedly says all Haitians have AIDS, Nigerians own huts at immigration meeting
President Trump exploded with vitriolic and racist comments — saying all Haitians have AIDS and mocking Nigerians — during a heated White House meeting about immigration, according to a report on Saturday.
Trump grumbled as entered the Oval Office, dressing down his national security team and railing against the number of immigrants who had entered the country since he took office.
He said he looked like a fool as the number climbed and he failed to make good on his promise to curtail the number of foreigners coming to America, sources told The New York Times .
Trump fumed at his top security team, reading from a list and complaining that 15,000 immigrants arrived from Haiti.
They “all have AIDS,” he said.
He read on, complaining that 40,000 people had come from Nigeria.
They would never “go back to their huts” in Africa, the President griped, a pair of officials told The Times.
Trump exploded at staff and cabinet members, including Secretary of State Rex Tillerson as John Kelly, then the secretary of homeland security, cleared the room of underlings and tried to assert order, sources told the newspaper.
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A patriot within the White House is informing the world of the truth.
More fake news from "unnamed sources". Pathetic.
Are you at least reasonable enough to admit that if Trump DID act this way, those inside the White House telling reporters about it would insist on remaining anonymous? Did this not really happen? Possibly, but it sure is believable that the petulant child Trump would blow up in this manner.
Ya got a point....but, there have been so many unverified stories about Trump, that the public has pretty much turned a deaf ear to all this propaganda.
Are you really sure that it is all propaganda? Consider, there are a lot of story's out there about Trump, not all of them can be propaganda, no matter how often Trump yells "fake news" there are story's that I'm following that are proving to be VERY true.
Story was debunked about 2 minutes after it was posted on the internet.
If we can't use the 25th on a president like Trump, what the fuck do we have it for?
haha liberals fall for these "sources". lap it up lap dogs.
There’s no telepathic insight required to reach the necessary and unavoidable conclusion that [this poster] doesn’t really believe what he claims to believe. It’s the simplest explanation, so it merits consideration. And none of the other possible explanations for his claims withstands scrutiny. This is where facts, evidence, and reason matter here — the facts, evidence and reason all point to the conclusion that [this poster] is arguing in bad faith. He’s not saying what he thinks is true, or what he “believes” is true. He’s just going to bat for his side or his team or his tribe in some weird attempt to redefine reality by sheer force of will.
Spam.
There’s no telepathic insight required to reach the necessary and unavoidable conclusion that [this poster] doesn’t really believe what he claims to believe. It’s the simplest explanation, so it merits consideration. And none of the other possible explanations for his claims withstands scrutiny. This is where facts, evidence, and reason matter here — the facts, evidence and reason all point to the conclusion that [this poster] is arguing in bad faith. He’s not saying what he thinks is true, or what he “believes” is true. He’s just going to bat for his side or his team or his tribe in some weird attempt to redefine reality by sheer force of will.
Not such what you keep posting in blue. Just scanning over it, it doesn't make sense.
It's a closely reasoned text... so "scanning" won't do. It's blue, because it's a link, to an article about "bad faith": posting stuff one knows to be false, trying to score points in some imaginary contest where truth is less than unimportant; something to be mocked.
It's a common practice here on NT...
Seems GOP activists don't do truth anymore.
No.
No.
'Nuff said.
Galen, can you tell us anything about Mediabiasfactcheck? I can. Let's see if you can. I said I use them as well, but I also understand they are one man with a bunch of volunteers in Greensboro, NC, the most Liberal city in the state of North Carolina by far. People who have lived there all their lives say they hardly recognize the place anymore. It is a favorite for northerners to move to in order to get away from the high taxes of the states they are coming from and the great climate Greensboro offers.
As I've said before you always need to move their little dot over one place to the left when they are judging a site that is considered anything from the center to the left and anything that is not considered left wing to the left one space as well. That way you can adjust for their own bias. It's certainly not the last word and they don't offer any comments section for a reason, which I'm sure you can figure out. None of these media bias sites offer a comments sections. Otherwise they would be shown for what they really are, left wing sites judging the bias of other sites. Sorry, no 'nuf said' on this one. I live in North Carolina and am very familiar with Greensboro.
Greensboro is in Guilford country, one of the 24 counties out of 100 that voted Democrat in the 2016 election. Just a few years ago this would have never happened, but there are so many people in the high cost of living states moving to North Carolina and enjoying the moderate climate we have, especially in places like Greensboro, the state is quickly turning into a blue state.
Between the free stuff offered by the Democrat candidates and the Liberals who are bringing their ideologies down here after running away from them I expect the state will be blue by 2020.
LOL, this means that they are in a middle of the road city then. I know North Carolina and, it ain't a liberal strong hold, besides, saying the whole city is liberal doesn't mean the site is liberal, you might as well say that all Republicans are a part of the swamp. Of course I think that is true. Are you part of the swamp?
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The interesting point here is that Trump's words leaked. After almost a year, the leaks are still flowing...
We don't know that they leaked. Just because you say so doesn't make it true.
No, the New York Times said it.
I'd believe them over you any day.
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Here we have the difference between a rag like the Examiner and a serious journal like the Times .
The Examiner headline is false. Wrong.
Worse: It would be very hard for a reasonably intelligent and honest reader of the Times article to take away what the Examiner puts in its headline. So either the Examiner is remarkably incompetent, or it is knowingly headlining a falsehood: The Examiner is lying .
The third paragraph of the Times article reads:
So you have a choice about which newspaper you trust. The Times , with it 171 Pulitzers... or the Examiner with its blatant lies...
What's very amusing is that I know you will continue to trust the newspaper that you know lies to you . You don't want truth. You want stories that flatter your preconceptions.
Oh, and... have a very Merry Christmas!
Let's look at your fearless leader.
The PolitiFact scorecard
True
21 (4%)
(21)
Mostly True
57 (12%)
(57)
Half True
70 (15%)
(70)
Mostly False
101 (21%)
(101)
False
159 (33%)
(159)
Pants on Fire
74 (15%)
(74)
Now, let's look at Obama's score card.
The PolitiFact scorecard
True
123 (21%)
(123)
Mostly True
165 (28%)
(165)
Half True
161 (27%)
(161)
Mostly False
70 (12%)
(70)
False
71 (12%)
(71)
Pants on Fire
9 (2%)
We can't all be Conservapedia, The Amercian Thinker, and Breitbart.
Good, I hope the "good" people that are leaking this information don't stop and, never get caught.
That's funny. Only a year ago you were screaming for the heads of those that leaked Podesta's emails to the press, not giving a shit what was in those emails.
Now, you want to hide sources? Liberal hypocrisy at it's finest.
And Bugsby, there was actual evidence back then. All there has been from the Left are anonymous sources like Harry Reid's little friends. The New York Times knows they can push this BS and no one will call them on it because it can neither be proved right or wrong. If given the choice, the New York Times will chose to publish anything that is against Trump if they can get away with it without any repercussions and it promotes their Progressive agenda.
He said he looked like a fool
He has been looking like a fool from almost day one of taking office.
He's still in office and will be for a long time. Who on the Democrat side is going to replace him?
The next Speaker of the House?
That's not funny Norman.
Trump looked like a fool a long time earlier. Even before pushing the Obama birther insanity.
The childish feud with Rosie comes to mind...
I have two favorites. One is when he pushed a diplomat aside to be up front and the other is when he wandered away from AF1 looking his ride. The car was like 10 feet from the steps.
The same mental state as the current POTUS. Skirting the CoC [ph]
I wonder if this was going on while candidate Trump was having Flynn talk to Russia or Don Jr was receiving emails containing Wikileaks before they were publicly released.
Oh yeah.... Those things never happened just like this bit of fiction never did either.
How about in the days when Trump was raping teens from his modeling agency and his days of raping beauty contestants?
I guess you have the conviction records that show that was done. No? Do you have any real proof of your accusations? No? Aah yoyr are just spiuting iff liberal left wing democrat BS again. Got it.
You've got Trump confused with Bill Clinton.
You can believe what these sources revealed or not, but this much is undeniable: It is absolutely in his character for Trump to have acted this way. He acts like a petulant child constantly.
Who cares? Who seriously cares? And if you do care, WHY? Does it hurt your feelings to hear someone say something bad about Haiti or Nigeria? Why?
By the way, fact: Haiti has more cases of AIDS than any other Caribbean nation.
So, if they don't "all" have AIDS, a whole lot of them do. Turns out the president might know a little more about Haiti than his critics do.
As for Nigeria, they are in desperate need of proper housing.
Africa’s housing crisis
So yeah, a lot of them live in huts.
But keep pulling your hair out because Trump touched on a couple of truths. Every time they cry about the truth hurting their feelings, it only makes the Left look even more ridiculous.
As has been pointed out elsewhere, the quote is probably false, but even if it's not: so what?
You are the reason Trumpism needs to be defeated.
Oh look! Another expression of hate without substance. Sound and fury signifying nothing.
No substance? The substance is people inside the White House told reporters that Trump used racist slurs at a national security meeting.
Did he say anything derogatory about people coming from "white" countries?
Drumpf did say that he's very proud of having "German blood."
Do you even know what "racist" means? He's talking about people based on what country they are in, not what their skin color is. Furthermore, even if he said this stuff (which is doubtful), he's not wrong. The truth is the truth no matter how much you cry about it.
YES! He rips on white countries like Germany, France, and others all the time! He just didn't do it at the same event because, you know, there's over 200 countries in the world. It's pretty stupid to suggest that because he's talking about two countries, he needs to hit all the others at the same time.
Remember all the white Republicans he ripped when he was running for office? Trump is an equal opportunity offender. That actually makes him more credible and less racist than pretty much anyone else in office.
If the left didn't have fake news to fuel their hate of Trump and conservatives they would have no lives. We will continue to push to make sure Democrats never have power again to destroy this country
Extremist libertarians are a shrinking group in this country, not a growing one. If the choice is between your philosophy and the Democrats , the future belongs to your enemies. Boo hoo.
there is no such thing as an "extremist libertarian". Libertarianism is the philosophy of many of our founders including Samuel Adams, Thomas Paine, and Thomas Jefferson.
Your marxist statist collectivism is the extremist ideology that enslaves people to the state.
I'll take liberty over slavery
Of course there are extremist libertarians. People who want to get rid of government are extremists.
You are certainly not alone among the brainwashed left in not understanding what is happening in the US. The trend among young adults is LIBERTARIAN, NOT PROGRESSIVE
1 in 5 Millennials describe themselves as libertarian
YouGov's latest research shows that, overall, 15% of Americans say that they would describe themselves as a libertarian, while 53% would not. 32% aren't sure either way. Younger Americans, however, are much more likely to describe themselves as libertarian or to be unsure of whether or not they are libertarian. 20% of under-30s describe themselves as libertarian, while only 39% of the Millennial age group reject the label of libertarian.
Young Americans Are Actually Not Becoming More Progressive
iGen’s other social and political beliefs also defy expectations. Compared to previous generations when they were young in these national surveys, iGen is more likely to support abortion rights, same-sex marriage and legalizing marijuana and less likely to support the death penalty — usually considered liberal beliefs. But they are also less likely to support gun control , national health care and government environmental regulation — usually considered conservative beliefs.
How can iGen hold these seemingly contradictory beliefs? In short, because they’re libertarians (or at least more libertarian than their elders). iGen was raised in a highly individualistic culture favoring the self over the group; phrases such as “do what’s right for you” and “believe in yourself and anything is possible” echoed through their childhood. Libertarianism is as close to cultural individualism as can be found in the political arena, favoring individual rights and fighting against government regulation.
That just shows your ignorance. libertarians (both those who belong to the Libertarian party and minarchist independents like myself) do not want anarchism (no government). We want only the government necessary.
I'm a Christian minarchist (a distinct type of libertarianism) who believes govt should be as small as possible. National defense, a uniform system of justice (court system), protection of creativity (patents), a uniform monetary system, and negotiation of treaties and trade. That is the legitimate function of our central govt. I oppose all drug laws, censorship, laws against prostitution, or laws on marriage and divorce. I oppose statist intrusion into charity or welfare. These are private moral issues and not the purview of government
Christian libertarianism describes the synthesis of Christian beliefs concerning free will, human nature, and God-given inalienable rights with libertarian political philosophy. It is also an ideology to the extent that its supporters promote their cause to others and join together as a movement. In contrast to the Christian left and the Christian right respectively, they believe charity and enforcement of personal-level morality should be the purview of the (voluntary) church and not the state. These responsibilities must not be abrogated, though any non-governmental organization (NGO) not publicly financed is free to pursue them as well.
Socialism, fascism, and crony capitalism are strongly opposed, as is theocracy. The latter does not include merely being influenced by Christian concepts; whereas in a theocracy, government derives its powers from a divine or religious authority directly exercising governmental control. The use of force is never justified to achieve purely political, social, or religious goals, but is reserved solely to uphold natural rights.
Enjoy your fantasy while it lasts.
I love it the nations youth are finally seeing the light.
The word "libertarian", as it is used in America today, is quite recent -- less than a century -- so retrofitting it to the Fathers is an anachronism.
Bumper-sticker thinking
Fact-free decision-making
Welcome to MAGA America!
I didn't say they called themselves libertarian. The philosophical principles on the role of government and the sovereignty of the individual are virtually identical
"The only freedom which deserves the name, is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it."
--John Stuart Mill
The natural liberty of man is to be free from any superior power on earth, and not to be under the will or legislative authority of man, but only to have the law of nature for his rule.
In the state of nature men may, as the patriarchs did, employ hired servants for the defence of their lives, liberties, and property; and they should pay them reasonable wages. Government was instituted for the purposes of common defence, and those who hold the reins of government have an equitable, natural right to an honorable support from the same principle that " the laborer is worthy of his hire." But then the same community which they serve ought to be the assessors of their pay. Governors have no right to seek and take what they please; by this, instead of being content with the station assigned them, that of honorable servants of the society, they would soon become absolute masters, despots, and tyrants. Hence, as a private man has a right to say what wages he will give in his private affairs, so has a community to determine what they will give and grant of their substance for the administration of public affairs. And, in both cases, more are ready to offer their service at the proposed and stipulated price than are able and willing to perform their duty.
In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society, to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights; the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property. If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave.
Samuel Adams The Natural Rights of the Colonists as Men, The Report of the Committee of Correspondence to the Boston Town Meeting, Nov. 20, 1772
"A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government."
-- Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801
The key concepts of libertarianism have developed over many centuries. The first inklings of them can be found in ancient China, Greece, and Israel; they began to be developed into something resembling modern libertarian philosophy in the work of such seventeenth- and eighteenth-century thinkers as John Locke, David Hume, Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Paine.
The Rule of Law. Libertarianism is not libertinism or hedonism. It is not a claim that “people can do anything they want to, and nobody else can say anything.” Rather, libertarianism proposes a society of liberty under law, in which individuals are free to pursue their own lives so long as they respect the equal rights of others. The rule of law means that individuals are governed by generally applicable and spontaneously developed legal rules, not by arbitrary commands; and that those rules should protect the freedom of individuals to pursue happiness in their own ways, not aim at any particular result or outcome.
Elements of libertarianism can be traced as far back as the ancient Chinese philosopher Lao-Tzu and the higher-law concepts of the Greeks and the Israelites . [163] [164] In 17th-century England, libertarian ideas began to take modern form in the writings of the Levellers and John Locke. In the middle of that century, opponents of royal power began to be called Whigs , or sometimes simply "opposition" or "country" (as opposed to Court) writers. [165]
During the 18th century, classical liberal ideas flourished in Europe and North America. [166] [167] Libertarians of various schools were influenced by classical liberal ideas. [168] For libertarian philosopher Roderick T. Long , both libertarian socialists and libertarian capitalists "share a common—or at least an overlapping intellectual ancestry—... both claim the seventeenth century English Levellers and the eighteenth century French encyclopedists among their ideological forebears; and (also)... usually share an admiration for Thomas Jefferson [169] [170] [171] and Thomas Paine". [172]
Paine later would write the Rights of Man and The Age of Reason and participate in the French Revolution . [176] Paine's theory of property showed a "libertarian concern" with the redistribution of resources
In 1793, William Godwin wrote a libertarian philosophical treatise, Enquiry Concerning Political Justice and its Influence on Morals and Happiness , which criticized ideas of human rights and of society by contract based on vague promises. He took classical liberalism to its logical anarchic conclusion by rejecting all political institutions, law, government and apparatus of coercion, as well as all political protest and insurrection. Instead of institutionalized justice, Godwin proposed that people influence one and other to moral goodness through informal reasoned persuasion, including in the associations they joined and that this would facilitate human happiness
You use slogans and rhetoric over logic. Comment removed for CoC violation [ph]
Actually the vast majority of fools aren't fascists (how "libertarians" call themselves these days).
Why would anyone expect the King of the Birthers to be less racist in private meetings than he is in public?
You calling Hillary a guy? I wonder if Bill knows that?