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Oooh, That's Gotta Sting Bad. Trump Loses Out On "Most Admired American Man" Title for 2017 To 'You Know Who'

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  johnrussell  •  9 years ago  •  362 comments

Oooh, That's Gotta Sting Bad. Trump Loses Out On "Most Admired American Man" Title for 2017 To 'You Know Who'

...(Trump is) still living in his predecessor's shadow when it comes to public admiration, according to a new poll.

Trump trailed former President Barack Obama as the most admired man for 2017, according to a Gallup poll released Wednesday, marking one of the very few times in recent history that an incumbent president hasn’t taken the top spot.

Gallup has asked the most admired man question 71 times since 1946 and the sitting president has won 58 of those times, according to Gallup.

“Trump's unpopularity is holding him back from winning the most admired distinction,” Gallup’s Jeffrey Jones said Wednesday . “The incumbent president is the usual winner since he is arguably the most prominent figure in the country -- but when the president is unpopular, other well-known and well-liked men have been able to finish first.”

"Former presidents commonly make the top 10 list but rarely win, with Obama only the second to do so, along with Eisenhower in 1967 and 1968," he added....

PHOTO: President Barack Obama speaks on health care before a joint session of the Congress on Capitol Hill, Sept. 9, 2009. President Donald Trump delivers his first address to a joint session of the U.S. Congress, Feb. 28, 2017, at the U.S. Capitol.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/president-trump-americas-admired-man-poll/story?id=52021209


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

lol. Waiting for Trump to cry "fake news". 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.1  SteevieGee  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago

I'm missing the lively banter of singled out and six pack right now.  I wonder where they are?

 
 
 
Ballew74
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1.3  Ballew74  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago
lol. Waiting for Trump to cry "fake news".

"Fake News" how about no news? No one gives a shit. I figured Obama would win because people on the left are still nostalgic for the good old days of a shitty economy, no jobs, and a sitting President bad mouthing and putting down a country he is supposed to be leading. I honestly would have been shocked had Trump won just because the all the hate spewed at him from a liberal media, all the assclowns in Hollywood, and the sheep who eat all the bullshit up. So celebrate this victory I'll be sitting here celebrating the fact Americans are going back to work, our economy is booming and we are finally starting to hand ISIS their asses. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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1.4  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @1    9 years ago
Waiting for Trump to cry "fake news".

Probably not fake news. I mean look how Hillary was a shoe in and all the brain dead proglibs were smug as hell about the election. Then they cried and are still crying and eating up them new polls.

But hey Hillarious Hillary has still got her slot.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.4.1  cjcold  replied to  KDMichigan @1.4    9 years ago

I would enjoy Hillary as a great President over the Trump insanity any day of the week.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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1.4.3  lennylynx  replied to  Shepboy @1.4.2    9 years ago

Lol, no one is as sickening as Trump, Shep, not even Hillary!  I love the puke emoticon though. Happy

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.4.17  cjcold  replied to  NORMAN-D @1.4.6    9 years ago

Maybe you should do some research as to her accomplishments. She is a great lady who does good works.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.4.18  arkpdx  replied to  cjcold @1.4.17    9 years ago

Yeah and Mussolini got the trains to run on time. So what? 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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1.4.21  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  dennis smith @1.4.20    8 years ago

Been there done that, nothing new in politics, let's see what happens in November of 2018.

 
 
 
Rex Block
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2  Rex Block    9 years ago

He came in a strong second, missing number 1 by just a couple of points. Quite amazing, actually, considering the all out war the left and their buddies in the media have declared on him. But resentful liberals have to continually resort to these popularity polls and useless and unimportant "most admired" standings trying to prove a point, whatever that point might be. Thanks for another deep and broad article that says nothing and goes nowhere...."yer doin' a heck of a job there, Johnny!"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Rex Block @2    9 years ago

Thank you Rex. I am always happy to point out the unpopularity of the man you mistakenly believe is so popular. I guess 35% doesn't go as far as it used to. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Hillary Clinton , meanwhile, was named America’s most admired woman

Trump wanted Ivanka. Melania who? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5    9 years ago
Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, was named America’s most admired woman

I knew the standards have dropped in the US when she ran for President, but this is a new low.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  NORMAN-D @5.1.1    9 years ago

Norman you win the award for the most ill thought out, useless comments on NT. 

The most admired poll has been conducted by Gallup for 70 some years. It is at heart an innocuous poll, it's just the presence of Trump that turns it controversial. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  NORMAN-D @5.1.1    9 years ago
Consider the source. Just another MSM participation trophy to their failed Messiah

True.

A typical poll that was heavily weighted to the left as usual. Nothing about any of their research is remotely accurate...but, let em have it...it makes the Snowflakes feel good....and as we all know, if a Snowflake doesn't feel GOOD.....it is a miserable misanthropic asshole for months upon months. There is just so much thumb sucking and floor rolling they can do to a hide their deep dismay. LMFAO

It's still funny how they rely on polls.  You would have thought that they would have learned after the election clusterfuck that they are unreliable.  But when you run in circles crying because you lost an election for a year, what can we expect.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6  Sparty On    9 years ago

Not a shock since he gets nearly 100% of one racial demographics vote.   What other previous POTUS can say that?

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.1  Dulay  replied to  Sparty On @6    9 years ago
Not a shock since he gets nearly 100% of one racial demographics vote. What other previous POTUS can say that?

Yes we know y'all think that all white people voted for Trump. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  Dulay @6.1    9 years ago

Nope, way too many "white" Clinton votin sons-a-bitches for that to be remotely true.  

Guess again.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.1    9 years ago
Nope, way too many "white" Clinton votin sons-a-bitches for that to be remotely true.

Bill Clinton didn't even make the list. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.3  Sparty On  replied to  Dulay @6.1.2    9 years ago

Old news, crawl out from under your rock and get with the times.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.3    9 years ago
Old news, crawl out from under your rock and get with the times.

You're the one behind the times and talking about white people voting for Clinton. BTFW, I'm under a foot of snow, not rocks but thanks for playing. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Dulay @6.1.4    9 years ago

Bwaaaahhhaahhhaahaahahaaaaa!!

I remember my first beer .....

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1.6  cjcold  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.5    9 years ago

Glad you finally turned 18. Please drink responsibly. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  cjcold @6.1.6    9 years ago

That would be great if 18 was the legal drinking age in the US.

You really need to work on your pithy comebacks.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1.9  cjcold  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.8    9 years ago

I live in redneck heaven where folks give their kids a beer if their hands are big enough to grasp it.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.1.10  Sparty On  replied to  cjcold @6.1.9    9 years ago

Yeah, sure you do and sure they do.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.2  cjcold  replied to  Sparty On @6    9 years ago

This white man voted for Obama twice. No regrets. He was such a much better President than we have now.

 
 
 
volfan
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6.2.1  volfan  replied to  cjcold @6.2    9 years ago
He was such a much better President than we have now.

The Obama Legacy:

Poverty level rose by 7%

12.4 million more on welfare

less than 2% GDP in any quarter in 8 years

Healthcare costs that were going to save the "family of 4 $2500 a year" (obumme'rs promise) rose 150% thanks to obummercare

Median household income at pre 2001 levels

Home ownership dropped roughly 4%

Student loan debt up 70%

Labor participation rate (the rate people are NOT in the workforce) records set each month

More regulation - passed on to the consumer which means more money out of your pocket

More taxes - more money out of your pocket again...

That is horrible, but things are a'changin' !! Hallelujah!

 
 
 
volfan
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6.2.4  volfan  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.3    9 years ago

all  verifiable - check it out...

 
 
 
volfan
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6.2.6  volfan  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.2    9 years ago

it's sad to see such raw, unadulterated hate and bitterness in every keystroke...and it's very bad for your health there, Ttessy.

 
 
 
volfan
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6.2.7  volfan  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.3    9 years ago

wrong. I will get a simplified tax procedure AND less paid in taxes ...hallelujah!! 

 
 
 
volfan
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6.2.9  volfan  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.5    9 years ago

try politifact on the obummer lie about health care.

the labor participation rate - dept of labor stats

the rest - google yourself as did I, for Pete's sake. They are easy to find. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.10  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.8    9 years ago

You know, if any one conservative would say the same thing about Barry Sotero, you loony libs would come screaming out of the woodwork throwing accusations of racism around.

Are YOU the racist now? Or have you always been, but have just been embolden by another white man in the White House?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.2.11  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago

Since President Barack Obama first took office:
Homicides have dropped 13 percent, but gun sales have surged.
The economy has added more than 9 million jobs, and the jobless rate has dropped to below the historical median.
The number of long-term unemployed Americans has dropped by 614,000 under Obama, but it is still 761,000 higher than at the start of the Great Recession.
Corporate profits are up 166 percent; real weekly wages are up 3.4 percent.
There are 15 million fewer people who lack health insurance.
Wind and solar power have nearly tripled, and now account for more than 5 percent of U.S. electricity.
The federal debt has more than doubled — rising 116 percent — and big annual deficits have continued.
Those are just some of our findings in our latest installment of Obama’s Numbers.

Since the Right claimed he was the Food Stamp president, I thought I'd add this nugget from the article.

The number of people receiving food stamps dropped again since our last report, by nearly 142,000. As of October, the most recent month on record, nearly 45.4 million Americans were still receiving the food aid, now known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
That’s 5.1 percent lower than the record level set in December 2012, but still nearly 42 percent higher than it was when Obama took office in 2009.
But as we noted when Republicans called Obama the “Food Stamp President,” 14.7 million people were added to the food-stamp rolls during George W. Bush’s time in office. By comparison, the net gain under Obama now stands at just under 13.4 million — and it’s slowly declining as the economy improves.

Read it for yourself, if your interested in the truth.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.2.13  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.12    9 years ago
Finally, admission that the number of guns is not and never has been the problem!

The number of gun sales couldn't have anything to do with story's like this could it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.17  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.16    9 years ago

Skirting the CoC [ph]

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.18  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
less than 2% GDP in any quarter in 8 years

LIE. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.20  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.19    9 years ago
That's comparing apples to oranges because Donald Rump is white (or orange)

And that, in itself, is something you hate. After all, every time a conservative criticized Obama and one of his policies, many on the left used this little adage........"the only reason you don't like him is because he is a black man in the White House".

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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6.2.21  magnoliaave  replied to  bugsy @6.2.20    9 years ago

And, that's a fact. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2.26  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.25    9 years ago
Barry and Moochelle

There it is, Tessy. Now I've got it down for the next con that says they never called Ms Obama a name

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.27  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.23    9 years ago

Don't know. You tell me. Lib logic says you must be a racist if you criticize the guy in the White House.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2.30  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.29    9 years ago

It's  knee slapping hilarious

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.31  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.28    9 years ago

Of course it doesn't make sense to you because many like you saw that criticizing the black man in the White House was simply racist whites being racist. To you guys, that is simply normal thought.

To have it put back on you simply does not compute. No surprise.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.33  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.32    9 years ago

So, common sense to a liberal is nonsensical? OK, I can believe that.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.36  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.34    9 years ago

Awwww....looks like you are triggered. Puppies and crayolas, anyone?

Now, go away...You are irritating.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2.40  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @6.2.36    9 years ago

Why doesn't anybody ever offer kittens?

Just once I want someone to give me a kitten and a coloring book

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.2.41  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.39    9 years ago
And 'Moochelle' is such a evil mean spirited pejorative right?

You forgot "stupid". 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.2.42  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.39    9 years ago
And 'Moochelle' is such a evil mean spirited pejorative right?

There is a long history of bigots referring to black people as animals. Your attempt at snide humor plays into that very mean spirited history. The Obama's have been caricatured as apes many times, even by Republican legislators, so calling the first lady a cow is just another attempt to claim for some reason that she is less than human. So yes, it is an evil mean spirited pejorative. No one is calling Donald Trump an animal because of his race, they call him a moron and an idiot because of the half witted words that come out of his mouth.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.43  bugsy  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.40    9 years ago

Sorry, Trout...I tried to paste a picture of kittens to offer you, but apparently I don't know how to post pictures on here, but, hey..

MEOW!!!!

Happy New Year!!!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2.44  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.42    9 years ago
No one is calling Donald Trump an animal

I think I called him a weasel a time or two. Definitely fat pig.

Good comment.

 
 
 
bugsy
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6.2.45  bugsy  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.38    9 years ago

It is unfortunate. It would be a lonely place on here if the libs had to meet a minimal IQ requirement. Won't be any fun without them...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.2.46  Trout Giggles  replied to  bugsy @6.2.43    9 years ago

Thanks for trying

Happy New Year to you, also!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.2.47  Sparty On  replied to  cjcold @6.2    9 years ago

i regret only that I have but one vote to give against the sort of liberal  crackpottery represented by the likes of Obama and Hillary ....

 
 
 
Sparty On
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6.2.48  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.42    9 years ago

From my experience on here and others sites that no longer exist, the left is just as prone, if not more, to sophomoric, mean spirited  name calling than the right.    

If you haven't observed that, you clearly are not paying proper attention.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.2.53  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.49    9 years ago

You really are trying to push buttons here because, there is no way that you can look at the word Moochelle and, not see what animal is referred to here.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.54  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.50    9 years ago
less than 2% GDP in any quarter in 8 years

So you think that you could pass off your data over a YEAR as support for the QUARTERLY LIE?

I'm glad to see that you are the only one to vote up your disingenuous comments. 

Barack Obama Is Now The Only President In History To Never Have A Year Of 3% GDP Growth.

Here is another graph from YOUR chosen source. 

Notice the first graph on quarterly GDP from YOUR source. See all of those columns that go ABOVE 3%? Oh and note that the graph only shows quarterly GDP from 2011 on. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.2.55  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.19    9 years ago
Maybe I'm the only liberal wishing he would drop dead from natural causes (or otherwise).

You're not the only one.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.2.56  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.19    9 years ago
Maybe I'm the only liberal wishing he would drop dead from natural causes (or otherwise).

You're not the only one.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.2.57  cjcold  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.44    9 years ago

I take the high road and only call him what he is.... A mean spirited, ignorant, stupid fool.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.58  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
Poverty level rose by 7%

LIE.

Poverty rate 2008 13.2

Poverty rate 2016 12.7

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.59  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
12.4 million more on welfare

Bush - food stamps grew by 14.7 million, or 85 percent

Obama - food stamps grew by 10.7 million, 33 percent

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.60  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
Healthcare costs that were going to save the "family of 4 $2500 a year" (obumme'rs promise) rose 150% thanks to obummercare.

2001- 2006 up 63%.

2006- 2011 up 31%

2011-2016 up 20% 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.63  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
Median household income at pre 2001 levels

LIE

Median household income 2001 -  $42,228

Median household income 2016 - $56,617

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.64  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.61    9 years ago
So no $2500 savings, right?

I suppose it depends on whether that 11% savings between 09 and 16 = $2500 or not. 

It doesn't for me because I couldn't afford coverage because of a pre existing condition. Now I can. Priceless. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.66  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
Home ownership dropped roughly 4%

Isn't that what happens in a housing bust? Sheesh. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.67  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
Student loan debt up 70%

False. 

Actually it's the number of students GETTING loans that went up 70%. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.68  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.65    9 years ago
Oh, new math!

I didn't DO any math, I cited date but thanks for playing. 

I bet you think that when a govt. department has a budget for a $100 million, asks for $200 million, but gets $150 million, we "saved" $50 million, right??

You lost your bet. Donate the amount to NT. 

The 11% savings are in the COST of premiums, in short, payments to PRIVATE companies. Nothing to do with a government department. Again, thanks for playing. 

Only in Liberal La La Land does increases equate with "savings".

The fraternity here will appreciate your attempt to dehumanize all liberals. Congratulations. 

SMDH and LMFAO at what some people are willing to believe.

When you're finished smacking and laughing perhaps you'd like to try addressing my comment rather than attempting to demoralize. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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6.2.69  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @6.2.63    9 years ago

No it is not a lie. $42000 in 2001 money equals $58000 today 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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6.2.70  arkpdx  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.65    9 years ago
I bet you think that when a govt. department has a budget for a $100 million, asks for $200 million, but gets $150 million, we "saved" $50 million, right??

I to disagree with you but in liberal land that is not saving $50 million nor is it an increase of $50 million. It is a cut of $50 million

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.71  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
Labor participation rate (the rate people are NOT in the workforce) records set each month

Lie. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.72  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
More regulation - passed on to the consumer which means more money out of your pocket

Regulation comes from legislation passed. Wait till you see the regulation coming out of the GOP tax bill. 

Get educated. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.73  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago
More taxes - more money out of your pocket again...

Wait till pay go kicks in on the GOP tax bill. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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6.2.74  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.19    9 years ago

Keep it classy with death wishing. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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6.2.76  Jasper2529  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.75    9 years ago

Hey there, XD -- I feel sorry for the Trump haters. It takes an awful lot of callousness, depravity, and hatred to want somebody dead. 

I wish you and yours a very happy and healthy New Year, too! 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.2.82  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  volfan @6.2.1    9 years ago

" less than 2% GDP in any quarter in 8 years"

2nd quarter 2011: 2.9%

4th quarter 2011: 4.6%

1st quarter 2012: 2.7%

1st quarter 2013: 2.8%

3rd quarter 2013: 3.1%

4th quarter 2013: 4%

2nd quarter 2014: 4.6%

3rd quarter 2014: 5.2%

4th quarter 2014: 2%

1st quarter 2015: 3.2%

2nd quarter 2015: 2.7%

2nd quarter 2016: 2.2%

3rd quarter 2016: 2.8%

It's not just that you were a little wrong, you're so wrong its mind-boggling.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.83  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.78    9 years ago
Source

Tell you what Norm, when you ask volfan for his sources and he posts them, I'll post the rest of mine. 

Just in case you missed the point, you're request seems discriminatory. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.84  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.79    9 years ago

See:

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.85  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @6.2.69    9 years ago
No it is not a lie. $42000 in 2001 money equals $58000 today

Would you like some mustard for that pretzel? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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6.2.86  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @6.2.85    9 years ago

Whats the matter can't stand the truth? 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.88  Dulay  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.82    9 years ago
It's not just that you were a little wrong, you're so wrong its mind-boggling.

The fraternity is going to have to rinse their eyes out before the facts burn their retinas. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.90  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.81    9 years ago

Same damn answer. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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6.2.92  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @6.2.64    9 years ago
suppose it depends on whether that 11% savings between 09 and 16 = $2500 or not. 

How quickly they forget. The $2500 savings on insurance was to be per year ant 2400 over 7 years. Oops!

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.93  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @6.2.86    9 years ago
Whats the matter can't stand the truth?

The matter is that rather than telling a relevant truth, you are deflecting. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.94  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @6.2.92    9 years ago
How quickly they forget. The $2500 savings on insurance was to be per year ant 2400 over 7 years. Oops!

I presume you have a point that you believe refutes my comment. Would you please attempt to make it cogently? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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6.2.95  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @6.2.93    9 years ago

What i said is the truth. In terms if spending ability, the average worker is less well off in 2016 then he was in 2001. That is true and factual. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.2.96  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.91    9 years ago
This BS is injecting 'inflation adjustments' in order to render your fuzzy numbers.

These aren't my numbers, they're every ones numbers.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.97  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.87    9 years ago
Except when they are done by Executive Fiat....as was the popular vehicle used by Barry O.

All or the regulations that Trump has pretended to eliminate and those that he has added up until December, were done by Executive Fiat. You and yours cheered. 

YOU....Get educated,

I'm pretty sure that it's obvious to everyone but some of the members of the fraternity that I already have. 

and knock off the snot...if you don't mind.

If you have an issue with excess mucus, that's on you...

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.98  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @6.2.95    9 years ago
the average worker is less well off in 2016 then he was in 2001.

But THAT isn't what you said IS IT. You changed the metrics and expect applause. 

Fail...

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.99  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.89    9 years ago
In FIVE YEARS from now....It will be extended, and likely improved upon.

Did your Magic 8 ball tell you that? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.102  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @6.2.91    9 years ago
Horse shit....This BS is injecting 'inflation adjustments'

So the 2017 Q1 3.3 and the Q2 3.3 is horseshit too? 

Here, I'll post something the fraternity understands. 

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
6.2.103  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Dulay @6.2.97    9 years ago

That’s not true.  These are deregulation bills he signed into law not executive orders.

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.105  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.101    9 years ago
11% are in the cost of savings for premiums?

Good, you're getting close. 

What are you smoking?

I roll my own. 

if that were a true statement, then premiums would have come DOWN instead of going UP.

Not big on cogency I see. The 11% is REDUCTION in growth of premiums. Do try to keep up. 

Premiums have increased.

Yes they have. At 11% LESS than they would have. 

How can you save money when you are spending MORE?

If you are incapable of understanding the concept of reduction in growth in cost, I can't help you... perhaps there is a woman about you can ask about it. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.108  Dulay  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.2.103    9 years ago

1. No bill is cited by the link. Bill # please. 

2. Congressional Review Act, NOT a BILL. See Schoolhouse rock. 

3. See #2. 

4. See #2. 

5. See #2. 

So my bad, not all EOs. But NOT 'deregulatory bills' either Dean. 

Oh and BTFW, #5 should make his supports extra special proud. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.109  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.100    9 years ago
And yet not one of Oama’s Eight years did he have 3% growth for a whole year. Not one!  

WTF, don't you frat members ever talk. We have a CHAT function ya know.

THAT particular load of BULLSHIT has been debunked here enumerable times in the last week. DO try to keep up.

Of course, you may be one of the group that simply rinse and repeat BULLSHIT. If that is the case, please proceed. Far be it from me to try to keep anyone from continuing to play the fool. 

 
 
 
volfan
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6.2.110  volfan  replied to  Dulay @6.2.58    9 years ago

LIE.

Poverty rate 2008 13.2

Poverty rate 2016 12.7

Yes, you should stop Here ya go:

Bush last month in office was Dec. 2007, and it stood at 37.3.  At the end of 2008:

The percentage of children living in low-income families (both poor and near poor) has been  on the rise —increasing from 39 percent in 2008 to 44 percent in 2014

Let's see... 44-37 is....wait for it....7% !!

Do the rest yourself, for Pete's sake!!

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
6.2.111  volfan  replied to  Dulay @6.2.59    9 years ago

Stop with your ridiculous posts...you keep getting owned. Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't make it a lie...and you should source your ridiculous claims...why don't you? Bawhahaha...betcha we all know why.

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
6.2.112  volfan  replied to  Dulay @6.2.60    9 years ago

oh, so you are admitting obama lied when he said, it would" save a family of 4 $2500 a year".

Thanks. And again, you post no sources....here's a neat little chart:

And another one.

And there is this -the actual rising costs for those enrolled in obamacrapcare.

Cheers!

 
 
 
volfan
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6.2.113  volfan  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.65    9 years ago

BINGO!!!

 
 
 
Dulay
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6.2.115  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.110    9 years ago
Bush last month in office was Dec. 2007, and it stood at 37.3.

First of all, only a mental midget would come here and post the overt LIE that Bush's last month in office was Dec. 2007. Open a freaking history book, look it up on google. Sheesh. 

At the end of 2008:
The percentage of children living in low-income families (both poor and near poor) has been on the rise—increasing from 39 percent in 2008 to 44 percent in 2014Let's see...44-37 is....wait for it....7%!! Do the rest yourself, for Pete's sake!!

Your claim wasn't about 'the percentage of children living in low-income families' though WAS IT? Perhaps you should go back and review your own comment and address it's ACTUAL content instead of deflecting. 

Let's see...44-37 is....wait for it....7%!!

But hell, let's DO address your deflection anyway shall we? 

Let's see, since Bush was ACTUALLY in office until JAN 2009, you'd at least have to go with the 2008, 39%.

So 44-39 is....wait for it....5%!!

So according to your OWN source and your own numbers, your claim is a LIE. 

But wait, there's MORE. I see that just like Bush's, you're also conveniently truncated Obama's term in office. Obama was in office until JAN. 2016 so go look up the DEC. 2016 data and do the math. 

Do the rest yourself, for Pete's sake!!

The rest of WHAT? I addressed you ACTUAL BS comment about HOUSEHOLD POVERTY. I need not agree to follow your down whatever fucking rabbit whole you decide to scamper down. 

Now I could tell give you the data for DEC. 2016 but since you're hell bent on each of us doing our own research, I'll wait for YOU to post it...

Hint: it's NOT 44 and it STILL doesn't refute the FACT that your original data on HOUSEHOLD POVERTY is a LIE. 

Thanks for playing. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.116  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.111    9 years ago
Stop with your ridiculous posts...you keep getting owned.

Really? By whom? Certainly NOT by one who posts ridiculous comments like Bush's last month in office was Dec. 2007. 

Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't make it a lie...

Exactly! What makes it a LIE is the it is a LIE. Since YOU made the assertion, it is on you to prove it. Although as anyone can see, I DID provide links to prove my date. 

and you should source your ridiculous claims...why don't you?

Where are your source? Why didn't YOU post any? In fact, you STILL haven't posted anything cogent. 

Bawhahaha...betcha we all know why.

Back at cha. Even a member of the fraternity wants sources. Post some. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.118  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.106    9 years ago
A reduction in growth in cost is still an increase.

But it IS a 'SAVINGS' isn't it?

To pretend otherwise is madness.

I never said it wasn't an increase. 

Certainly no where near close to a savings of $2500, as promised.

Based on what? Do you have numbers I am unaware of? 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.119  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.112    9 years ago
oh, so you are admitting obama lied when he said, it would" save a family of 4 $2500 a year".

Reading is fundamental. 

Thanks. And again, you post no sources....

When YOU post sources to support your ORIGNIAL post, I'll be more than happy to eviscerate your BS further. 

here's a neat little chart:

Obamacare is NOT 'employer sponsored health insurance'. Again, deflection. 

Oh and BTFW, HOW does that 'neat little chart' prove that the increase in premiums is because of Obamacare. 

And another one. And there is this -the actual rising costs for those enrolled in obamacrapcare. Cheers!

Well since it's common practice by the fraternity to dismiss liberal sources, I'll take the same track and reject the Heritage foundation as a biased source. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
6.2.120  Dulay  replied to  volfan @6.2.114    9 years ago
US GDP Growth Revised Up to 3.3% in Q3, Highest in 3 Years 

So you are admitting that you LIED. 

To wit: 

You OWN source states that the GDP was 3.2% 3 years ago, which was during the Obama Administration.

Checkmate. Thanks for playing. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
7  Dean Moriarty    9 years ago

It reminds me of all the Cuban commies that cried when Castro died.

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.2  cjcold  replied to  Dean Moriarty @7    9 years ago

Reminds me of how many Cubans cheered Castro's  death. And then the brother comes along.

Far right wing fascists are all alike no matter where they hail from.

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
7.2.1  volfan  replied to  cjcold @7.2    9 years ago

fascists? crazy

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  seeder  JohnRussell    9 years ago

Here is another secondary news story from today

After living in Washington for nearly a year, President Donald Trump has yet to enjoy a single non-working meal at a restaurant that doesn't pay him rent.

He hasn't taken in a performance at the Kennedy Center; hasn't been to a sporting event; hasn't toured most of the sights.

It's one of the peculiarities of the Trump presidency and one of a long list of ways in which he's changing the office, as well as its relationship with Washington.

"I would say that Trump has been the least present of any of the most recent presidents," said Phil Mendelson, chairman of the Washington, D.C., City Council and a Democratic member of the council since 1999.

It's not just restaurants, says Mendelson. Trump has been less engaged on the local charity circuit than other recent presidents, with no stops at local food banks or to help elementary school reading drives

He's a weirdo. Truth is, he's worried to death that if he acts like a resident of Washington DC and goes out to restaurants or schools, he will be met with protests. 

He's probably right. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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8.2  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @8    9 years ago

He's worried that he will be assassinated if he goes out in public. The most hated president ever might be right.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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8.2.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  NORMAN-D @8.2.1    9 years ago

So, 58% of Americans are "Lefties"? Wow, I didn't know we had that many.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @8    9 years ago

No charity stops....I'm not surprised. The one "charity" that I ever heard him associate with was the Wounded Veterans Project and he made a goddamn campaign fundraiser out of it...then wouldn't give WVP the money until he was hounded by it.

And people still voted for him. They must have really, really hated Hillary

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
14  volfan    9 years ago

Oh, the sting along with the butthurt...lol winking

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Participates
17  1stwarrior    9 years ago

Polls are totally unreliable John - as you well know.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
17.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @17    9 years ago

Can you point to anything, anything at all, that indicates that the majority of the American people support Donald Trump, or have ever supported Donald Trump?

One poll at one time can be wrong. Dozens of polls over the course of a year are not all wrong. He is a very unpopular president. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
17.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @17.1.2    9 years ago

National polling accurately predicted the vote total in the 2016 election. National polling today tells us trump is far underwater. 

Your twisting and turning is irrelevant. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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17.1.7  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @17.1.6    9 years ago

So you disagree with XD when he said that the president has NOTHING to do with the stock market. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
17.1.9  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Dulay @17.1.7    9 years ago

I don’t if people have an optimistic outlook on business they will be more inclined to buy into the market driving prices up. The day after Trump was elected the Trump rally began. If they have a negative outlook on business they will flee the market for safe havens such as treasuries driving the market down. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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17.1.12  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to    9 years ago
Dozens of polls said Hillary would win the popular vote by a landslide how did that work out.

There, fixed it for ya, you all seem to forget the extra little nugget that was there, (the popular vote), why is that? Now, the fact is, Hillary did win the popular vote by 3+ million votes, I would consider that a land slide, what she lost was the Electoral College which isn't connected to the popular vote.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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17.1.13  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @17.1.3    9 years ago
National polling accurately predicted the vote total in the 2016 election.

How'd that work out. laughing dude

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
17.1.14  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @17.1.8    9 years ago
Obama had NOTHING to do with the market, other than strangle it with corporate regulations. The market and business responded positively to the election of Trump BEFORE he was inaugurated as they knew a man with actual business experience was going to become President. The market responded to Trump.

So you want it both ways, we should all give credit to Trump for today's stock market but Obama had nothing to do with the 166% 8 year gain in the stock market. Got ya. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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17.1.15  Dulay  replied to  Dean Moriarty @17.1.9    9 years ago
I don’t if people have an optimistic outlook on business 

IMHO it isn't about 'business' per se. It's about profits made because of deregulation for the sake of deregulation. Pollution: air, land and water and the reduction in worker and food safety alone will add billions to corporate profits. The 'moral majority' used to pretend that it was the utmost of importance to protect our children's future. They aren't even pretending anymore. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
18  Tacos!    9 years ago
To 'You Know Who'

Hillary Clinton? laughing dude

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
19  tomwcraig    9 years ago

Those that support Barack Obama in any way, shape, or form actually support the elimination of the Bill of Rights as shown by the assassination of TWO AMERICAN CITIZENS om Yemen without even an indictment on either of them.  The Fifth Amendment states:

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger ; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Neither Samir Khan nor Anwar al-Awlaki were members of the military at the time of the assassination nor was there any sort of indictment regarding them.  The only thing there was an accusation by the intelligence community.  To support Barack Obama, you must no longer believe that anyone has any rights, because Barack Obama did not care to follow the Constitution regarding these two men.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
19.1  devangelical  replied to  tomwcraig @19    9 years ago

Since when does due process extend beyond the US, it's military bases, or diplomatic properties? Too bad Obama didn't clip the US oil company executives that were out there buying terrorist oil at the same time.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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19.1.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  NORMAN-D @19.1.1    9 years ago

Links? Or, is this just more RW fake news?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
19.1.5  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  NORMAN-D @19.1.4    9 years ago

Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: The Drudge Report is a politically conservative American news aggregation website run by Matt Drudge. The site consists mainly of links to stories from the United States and international mainstream media about politics, entertainment, and current events; it also has links to many columnists. Occasionally, Drudge authors new stories himself, based on tips. The Drudge Report focuses on sensationalized stories with a right wing bias. They have a poor record with fact checkers. (7/19/2016) Updated (4/5/2017)

Really?

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
19.1.8  tomwcraig  replied to  XDm9mm @19.1.2    9 years ago

If we were in a battle that would be true.  However, the drone strikes were deliberately targeting them not in the middle of a field of combat involving US troops.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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19.1.9  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  NORMAN-D @19.1.6    9 years ago

LOL Norman, you and, your friends do it everyday too, what can't stand your own standards? Use a real source not some online guy who is a Trump bot or worse, a Russian agent.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
19.1.11  tomwcraig  replied to  XDm9mm @19.1.10    8 years ago

You know the saying "You can indict a ham sandwich."?  They could have done that here and then I wouldn't have had a problem.  As I said before, there was no indictment and therefore their Constitutional Rights were violated.  If they took the time to indict them, the issue would have been moot as Constitutional processes would have been followed.  Heck, a Grand Jury rarely has an accused person in attendance let alone testifying during the case.  They had plenty of time from when they were declared terrorists to follow Constitutional processes before killing them.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
19.1.13  tomwcraig  replied to  XDm9mm @19.1.12    8 years ago

Reread what I wrote.  We didn't need to bring them back for a trial, we just needed to have them indicted and they do not need to be present for that.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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19.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  tomwcraig @19    9 years ago
Neither Samir Khan nor Anwar al-Awlaki were members of the military at the time of the assassination

By their own admission they were enemy combatants fighting with terrorists against the United States, that makes them traitors. Are you a supporter of traitors?

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
19.2.1  tomwcraig  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @19.2    9 years ago

Even traitors have a right to a trial and to be indicted.  I prefer to maintain our rights and to have the rule of the US Constitution maintained.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Quiet
19.2.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  tomwcraig @19.2.1    9 years ago

Only if they aren't behind enemy lines plotting an attack on Americans, otherwise they should be treated as any other enemy combatant.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
Junior Silent
19.2.3  tomwcraig  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @19.2.2    8 years ago

See my reply to XDm9mm above.

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
20  sixpick    9 years ago

This has to be the funniest article I've seen in a long time and the way it was presented is hilarious!

First the article title the seeder used:

Oooh, That's Gotta Sting Bad. Trump Loses Out On "Most Admired American Man" Title for 2017 To 'You Know Who'

when the actual title for the article based on the link provided is:

President Trump is America's second-most admired man, poll finds

Here is the entire article without the photos and with my notes and highlights in red :

President Donald Trump snagged a major legislative victory with the signing of his landmark tax reform bill last week, but he’s still living in his predecessor's shadow when it comes to public admiration, according to a new poll.

Trump trailed former President Barack Obama as the most admired man for 2017, according to a Gallup poll released Wednesday, marking one of the very few times in recent history that an incumbent president hasn’t taken the top spot.

Gallup has asked the most admired man question 71 times since 1946 and the sitting president has won 58 of those times, according to Gallup.

“Trump's unpopularity is holding him back from winning the most admired distinction,” Gallup’s Jeffrey Jones said Wednesday . “The incumbent president is the usual winner since he is arguably the most prominent figure in the country -- but when the president is unpopular, other well-known and well-liked men have been able to finish first.”

"Former presidents commonly make the top 10 list but rarely win, with Obama only the second to do so, along with Eisenhower in 1967 and 1968," he added.

Seventeen percent of Americans surveyed named Obama as the man they admire most, while 14 percent named Trump, the poll said.

Hillary Clinton , meanwhile, was named America’s most admired woman, with 9 percent of the vote, while former first lady Michelle Obama came in second with 7 percent.

“Hillary Clinton has been named most admired more than any woman -- or man -- in Gallup's polling history,” Jones said. “But the likelihood that she will continue to hold that honor in future years seems less certain, with her popularity at a nadir and the percentage naming her as most admired the lowest in 15 years.”

The poll was, however, largely split along party lines as Republicans were far more likely to name Trump than Obama.

Thirty-five percent of Republicans surveyed chose Trump as the man they admired most, while only 1 percent chose Obama, according to the poll. Meanwhile, 39 percent of Democrats named Obama, versus 3 percent who named Trump.

Other notable men on Gallup’s list included Pope Francis , Rev. Billy Graham, Sen. John McCain and Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk.

Media mogul Oprah Winfrey, Sen. Elizabeth Warren and German Chancellor Angela Merkel rounded out the top 5 for most admired women, according to the poll, while about a quarter of those surveyed said they couldn’t name a man or a woman they admire most.

The poll was conducted via telephone between Dec. 4 and Dec. 11, using a random sample of 1,049 adults, Gallup said.

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Now let's put this all in perspective. LOL!!!!!   17 percent chose Obama and 14 percent chose Trump out of the 1,049 people surveyed out of over 300 million people.  LOL

Notice how ABC sneaked that little 'has been' in its critique of Hillary Clinton and ignored Hillary Clinton Favorable Rating at New Low at 36% as of December 17, 2017.

And if you want something to sting you, then consider Trump and Obama have basically the same approval and disapproval ratings at the end of their first year even though Trump received 3 times the amount of negative coverage as Obama.  Now that has to really bite you. LOL

 
 
 
volfan
Freshman Silent
22  volfan    9 years ago

thumbs up

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Participates
22.1  Dulay  replied to  volfan @22    9 years ago

That is the only cogent comment you've made on this seed. 

 
 

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