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"This little girl has God on her side." What about this other little girl?

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  8 years ago  •  64 comments

"This little girl has God on her side."   What about this other little girl?

President Trump told the inspiring story of Sophia Marie Campa-Peters, a nine-year-old girl from Texas who suffers from a rare disease that causes her to have strokes. 

At the National Prayer Breakfast Thursday morning, Trump recalled what Sophia told doctors when they said she may never walk again.

"She replied, 'If you're only going to talk about what I can't do, then I don't want to hear it. Just let me try to walk,'" he said. 


"She tried and she succeeded!" Trump told the audience, adding that one of her doctors remarked that "this little girl has God on her side."

Campa-Peters, who was left partially paralyzed by the strokes, and her family were seated in the front row for the speech. Trump said Sophia underwent a high-risk surgery on Jan. 24 and asked people around the world to pray for her , hoping to reach 10,000 people.

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9-year-old Sophia Marie Campa-Peters Has Had Successful Brain Surgery http:// fox2now.com/2018/01/30/9-y ear-old-girl-who-received-trump-support-has-successful-brain-surgery/  …

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-defends-religious-liberty-home-abroad-national-prayer/story?id=52928144

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7-Year-Old Indiana Girl Dies; She Had Flu, Scarlet Fever, Strep

COLUMBUS, IN — A 7-year-old Indiana girl who was found unresponsive in her bed and later died at a hospital had the flu, scarlet fever and strep throat, the county coroner's office said.

Savanna Jessie, a first-grader at Columbus Signature Academy's Lincoln Elementary School, was rushed to Columbus Regional Hospital on Thursday morning. Medical staff declared her dead just after 6:30 a.m that day, according to a YouCaring post created to help the family cover costs of her funeral.

https://patch.com/south-carolina/mountpleasant-sc/s/gcktp/7-year-old-indiana-girl-dies-she-had-flu-scarlet-fever-strep



According to Trump and the prayer breakfast, Sophia may have been saved because the world prayed for her. 


Savanna had no such luck. 



Is this really how God works? 



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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JohnRussell    8 years ago

People pray for health and recovery every day, for themselves and for others. Some of them recover, and some of them get sicker and die. At best, it is a mystery, but it must be disheartening to people who see their loved ones die to have to watch the president credit a girl's successful outcome to prayer. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.1  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 years ago
it must be disheartening to people who see their loved ones die to have to watch the president credit a girl's successful outcome to prayer.

Quite the contrary. The people that prayed and lost a loved one for the most part would accept their loss and would rejoice in the recovery of the girl .You really dont know mych about religiius people. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  arkpdx @1.1    8 years ago

Why was one little girl favored by God and the other one wasn't? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.1.2  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    8 years ago

You would have to ask God tgat question .

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.3    8 years ago

President Trump used a Congressional PRAYER Breakfast to highlight the successful outcome for the girl who asked people to pray for her. 

What do you think Trump believes happened?  Or he is willing to pretend he believes happened? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.5    8 years ago

Don't comment on me, comment on the seed. 

And don't ask me what "proof" I have which little girl was favored by God.  You should know by now that I am not going to answer such a stupid question. 

You believe that God answered the prayers of both families, but in different ways. Allright fine, that is your answer. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.7    8 years ago

All you are good for is circular nonsense. I haven't said that either of them were favored by God. 

A PRAYER Breakfast was held in DC today where it was suggested that the girl was saved by prayer. 

Comment on that or get off the seed. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.1.11  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.6    8 years ago
haven't said that either of them were favored by God. 

This question you asked of me

Why was one little girl favored by God and the other one wasn't? 

implies that you do indeed think that one little girl was favored over the other .

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.7    8 years ago
So which girl was favored by God?

Neither one. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.1.14  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.13    8 years ago
Okay. If I remember right, you are an atheist, aren't you?

No. Deist. To be more clear... I am what is known as a "cold" Deist. 

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
1.1.15  Rex Block  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.8    8 years ago
A PRAYER Breakfast was held in DC today where it was suggested that the girl was saved by prayer.

And why do you have a problem with the girl getting well?  And why does Trump enter into the picture? Trump is not much of a believer, but should he antagonize Christians?

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
1.3  Rex Block  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 years ago
but it must be disheartening to people who see their loved ones die to have to watch the president credit a girl's successful outcome to prayer.

Well, It was a prayer breakfast and she was the child in question at it. What would have him say? And why why would you bring the sad case of another child's life into the discussion?

A 7-year-old Indiana girl who was found unresponsive in her bed and later died at a hospital had the flu, scarlet fever and strep throat, the county coroner's office said.

With all those symptoms, it is surprising her family didn't seek care sooner.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  Rex Block @1.3    8 years ago
mean spirited as most liberals.

You do realize that Jesus was a liberal, right? He  accepted everyone, no matter who they were. He preached love, kindness, civility, inclusiveness, compassion, honesty, etc.. Now look at trump and pence.... They literally have NONE of those qualities and evangelicals? One of the largest hate groups in the country. 

 
 
 
Rex Block
Freshman Silent
1.3.2  Rex Block  replied to  MrFrost @1.3.1    8 years ago

How so? Did you know him personally?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.3.4  MrFrost  replied to  Rex Block @1.3.2    8 years ago

Do I have to know anyone personally to know who and what they are based on their actions? You should read the bible, it's pretty well spelled out in there. I didn't know Hitler personally either, but I know he was a pretty bad person. Same with Marshal Applewhite, jim jones, etc.. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.3.6  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.5    8 years ago

It is. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.3.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.5    8 years ago
curious as to how the Bible fits into deism.

You don't have to be a Christian or religious at all to have read the bible. I've read the bible at least three times cover to cover and studied it for over two decades so I can tell you that what Mr. Frost says about the Jesus of the bible is accurate. He would definitely be more at home among liberals than the conservatives of today. That's why he shunned the self righteous scribes and pharisees and chose instead to eat with tax collectors and prostitutes. "So let the one who thinks he is standing be careful that he does not fall."

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Silent
1.4  lennylynx  replied to  JohnRussell @1    8 years ago

I'm surprised you're bothered by this.  It makes perfect sense if there is no god, just like everything else does.  If there is a god, however, there are many things that don't make sense, not just this.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
4  MrFrost    8 years ago

Nothing wrong at all with praying. Just don't expect it to actually change an outcome. For some people it provides personal comfort, and that's great, I am all for it. But, sitting in an empty room talking to yourself is not going to cure cancer or stop a tornado from flattening your home. If prayer really did work, there would be lottery winners DAILY. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
4.3  arkpdx  replied to  MrFrost @4    8 years ago
sitting in an empty room talking to yourself is not going to cure cancer or stop a tornado from flattening your home.

Are you so sure? There have been reports of people coming out of seeing deadly circumstances( disease, accident, natural and man made disasters) were the outcime was a a virtual certainty and people gave recivered ir itherwise survived .

 
 
 
Jonathan P
Sophomore Silent
5  Jonathan P    8 years ago

Two things come to mind here:

1)Sometimes while watching a football game, a player will make an incredible play, and the commentators will marvel at how "you can't teach that" and "amazing natural gifts" and occasionally "that's G-d given talent". I don't think the commentators are excluding the other players. I don't think they're implying that the other players do not have "G-d given talent" as well. I don't  think Trump did that either.

2)The most important thing to remember about petitioning G-d for anything is this:

G-d answers all of our prayers. Most of the time, the answer is "NO".

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
6  sixpick    8 years ago

God answered both prayers.

For the little girl who lived, he gave her life here on earth with the potential for everlasting life in heaven.

For the little girl who died, he gave her everlasting life in heaven.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
7  Buzz of the Orient    8 years ago

With God on Our Side

 
 

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