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Paul Ryan Won't Seek Re-Election

  

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Via:  jbb  •  8 years ago  •  128 comments

Paul Ryan Won't Seek Re-Election

NEWSFLASH! - Paul Ryan Won't Seek Re-Election...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/paul-ryan-wont-seek-re-election/ar-AAvL073?li=BBnb7Kz

House Speaker Paul Ryan has told confidantes he is not seeking re-election and will soon announce his decision, two sources with direct knowledge of the matter told CNN Wednesday.

He is expected to address his decision in a closed-door GOP conference meeting Wednesday morning, the sources said.

Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican, has been in Congress since 1999 and became House speaker in 2015.

Some of Ryan's close friends previously told CNN that he might leave office after the 2018 midterms. Ryan said in a January interview with CBS News that re-election was a decision he and his wife were planning to make together in late spring, and in March he denied a rumor that he wouldn't seek re-election.

The news of Ryan's retirement was first reported by Axios.

CNN's Eli Watkins contributed to this report.


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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    8 years ago

WOW! WOW! WOW! Speaker of the House Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-Election...

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
1.1  It Is ME  replied to  JBB @1    8 years ago
WOW! WOW! WOW! Speaker of the House Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-Election...

Do Liberals EVER REALLY pay attention ! stunned

Ryan was iffy about taking the job in the first place back when "Dumbo" was president. He sighted the exact same "Family" thing back then. If you Liberals paid attention at all, he said he really didn't want the job in the first place, but someone talked him into it.

You Liberals make so fucking much out of nothing. sheeeeesh ! close call

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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1.1.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  It Is ME @1.1    8 years ago
Ryan was iffy about taking the job in the first place, back when Dumbo was president.

You mean George W. Bush? Wow, didn't know you felt that way about him and, I didn't know Ryan was offered the job all the way back then.....oh wait, he wasn't. Who are you talking about then?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  It Is ME @1.1    8 years ago

No reason ta get yourself all riled up cowboy. Ryan just recently denied he was stepping down...

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
1.1.3  It Is ME  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @1.1.1    8 years ago

Was Bush President in 2015 ? close call

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
1.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  JBB @1.1.2    8 years ago
No reason ta get yourself all riled up cowboy.

Seems youse is the one all giddy with this article ....... chum !

 
 
 
Devil's Advocate-in-Training
Freshman Silent
1.1.5  Devil's Advocate-in-Training  replied to  It Is ME @1.1    8 years ago

What job are you talking about?  The speakership??  My take on his announcement is that he knew the House was gonna flip to the Dems in Nov, which meant he wasn't going to be Speaker of the House in January anyway.  He didn't want to go through the humiliation of the symbolic "transferring of the gavel" to Nancy Pelosi (or whomever overthrows her as party leader), that's all it is!  True, he never really wanted the position in the first place, but that shouldn't mean he should leave the House altogether!  Unless, maybe he thinks if he can't be speaker, he'll take his ball and go home, like the whiny little bitch he is.

Good riddance, I say!

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
1.1.6  It Is ME  replied to  Devil's Advocate-in-Training @1.1.5    8 years ago
What job are you talking about?

Duh !

"True, he never really wanted the position in the first place, but that shouldn't mean he should leave the House altogether! "

Why not ? people retire ALL THE FUCKING TIME !

Do you actually have a legit point to make ?

 
 
 
Devil's Advocate-in-Training
Freshman Silent
1.1.7  Devil's Advocate-in-Training  replied to  It Is ME @1.1.6    8 years ago

The point I'm trying to make is that people who get into politics, especially on the national level, do so because they feel they can make a difference.  He said he felt he had accomplished most of what he wanted to do as SotH, but it's very likely he'll be walking into the sunset before he can get his pet project done...so called "entitlement" reform.  Maybe he sees that will not be possible, at least not the gutting of those programs he was wanting to do, when the House flips, I don't know.

And besides, the only people who can retire at 48 y/o are wealthy p....ohhhh....well, I hope he gets to keep that cushy Cadillac healthcare plan those congresspeople receive!  Talk about entitlements!!

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Participates
1.1.8  It Is ME  replied to  Devil's Advocate-in-Training @1.1.7    8 years ago
He said he felt he had accomplished most of what he wanted to do

That's what he wanted. Why should he drag it out longer ?

he doesn't seem to be one of these Oldie Moldie government Lifer types, needing a constant income paid for by "The People".

What's bad about that again ?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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1.1.9  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  It Is ME @1.1.3    8 years ago

Well, you did say "Dumbo was president", the only other president I know of who can be called that in the time that Ryan would have been old enough to serve in Congress is Bush.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.10  It Is ME  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @1.1.9    8 years ago

Ryan wasn't speaker of the house during Bush. The article is about him being speaker of the house.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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1.1.11  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Devil's Advocate-in-Training @1.1.7    8 years ago
I hope he gets to keep that cushy Cadillac healthcare plan those congresspeople receive!

Only if he pays for it, check it out.

But going forward, congressional retirees, based on an October 2013 final rule issued by the Office of Personnel Management, will still be eligible to purchase insurance through the FEHB plan if they meet certain criteria. The criteria, according to CRS, are eligibility for retirement from the federal government, and continuous enrollment in a health plan offered under FEHB or the exchanges for the five years of service immediately prior to retirement.
In either case, health coverage for retirees isn’t free. Enrollees and the government both pay for the insurance coverage. On average, the government pays 72 percent of the premiums for its workers, up to a maximum of 75 percent depending on the policy chosen. As federal retirees, former members of Congress would still be responsible for paying the same share of premiums as active federal employees.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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1.1.12  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  It Is ME @1.1.10    8 years ago

Well yeah but, you said that "Dumbo" was president, Bush fits that bill almost as good as Trump does so, are you talking about Trump then?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.1.13  MrFrost  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @1.1.1    8 years ago
George W. Bush

You spelled it wrong, his name is spelled... R E T A R D. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.2  Skrekk  replied to  JBB @1    8 years ago

This is excellent news for my state and for the country.   Hopefully Janesville will finally elect a Dem.

In related news I love this commentary from right winger Erick Erickson:

“If we’re going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherfucker,” said the congressman as we roamed the aisles of a Safeway grocery store together. I haven’t been in a Safeway since my family moved home from Dubai in 1990. The congressman did not want to be seen with me on Capitol Hill. He needed to get some stuff anyway and decided he’d let me walk with him through the cereal and dairy selections at the Safeway near my hotel.

“We are well and truly fucked in November. Kevin [McCarthy] is already circling like a green fly circling shit trying to take Paul’s [Ryan] job because nobody thinks he’s sticking around for Nancy [Pelosi]. She’s going to fuck up the cafeteria again too. [Lord’s name in vain], at least I’ll probably lose too and won’t have to put up with that shit.” He won’t lose. His district is very Republican. What’s the problem, though? Well, get ready…

“It’s like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really fucking stupid Forrest Gump. He can’t help himself. He’s just a fucking idiot who thinks he’s winning when people are bitching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of shit movie. Can you believe it beat the Shawshank Redemption?”

There are many more juicy tidbits at the link.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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1.2.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Skrekk @1.2    8 years ago
“It’s like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really fucking stupid Forrest Gump. He can’t help himself. He’s just a fucking idiot who thinks he’s winning when people are bitching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of shit movie. Can you believe it beat the Shawshank Redemption?”

LOL, I think he's upset about something.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
1.2.2  Skrekk  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @1.2.1    8 years ago

I'm currently of the view that almost all Republicans (especially the elected ones) are bigoted and incredibly ignorant m-effers, but it's interesting to see that they're not all totally brain dead.

"I say a lot of shit on TV defending him, even over this. But honestly, I wish the motherf*cker would just go away. We're going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn't led. He wakes up in the morning, sh*ts all over Twitter, sh*ts all over us, sh*ts all over his staff, then hits golf balls. F*ck him. Of course, I can't say that in public or I'd get run out of town."
 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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1.2.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Skrekk @1.2.2    8 years ago
I'm currently of the view that almost all Republicans

A lot of the good ones, like my dad, are gone but, there are some good ones left, not many but, some.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
1.2.4  Skrekk  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @1.2.3    8 years ago

Yeah, it seems that most of the ethical ones like Jim Jeffords and Lincoln Chafee saw that something was really wrong with the party and left a long time ago, or they were primaried out as the base shifted to the extreme right.   It's why the party is filled with right wing extremists today.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Clearest signal yet that there will be a blue wave in November. Ryan sees a wasteland ahead for the Republican Party, and he doesn't want to be the face of a wasteland. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2    8 years ago

By the way, everything Trump has "done" for (to) the country through executive orders can be reversed by the next Democratic president. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @2    8 years ago

I'm not singing Happy Days Are Here Again, yet, but nothing wrong with brushing up on the lyrics...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @2.2    8 years ago

I'm fairly sure Ryan will use different words to explain his leaving, but this looks rather clear on the face of it.  He is anticipating a Democratic congress with Trump still president for almost three more years. Total deadlock from a legislative perspective. 

Why would he want to listen to Trump bad mouthing him for three more years with nothing to gain? 

Ryan is young enough to take a couple years off and come back to politics in another role. Be a tv commentator in the meantime. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
2.2.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    8 years ago

He's probably been offered a cabinet position or could be planning on challenging Trump in 2020 and wants to begin his campaign planning and fund raising. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    8 years ago

Yeah, and look at it this way. By the time Trump is out in January 2021 Ryan will be eligible to lobby Congress...

That is where the BIG MONEY is. An ex-Speaker of the House starting that young will rake shinolas in for years.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.2.4  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JBB @2.2.3    8 years ago
Yeah, and look at it this way. By the time Trump is out in January 2021 Ryan will be eligible to lobby Congress...

Do ya think Trump will make it that far?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @2.2.4    8 years ago

I already stocked up fo Trump's Liftoff Party. Trump doesn't look like he is having any fun anymore...

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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2.2.6  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JBB @2.2.5    8 years ago

They've been running a split screen of Trump vs. Nixon today on MSNBC today, Nixon saying the Watergate investigation needed to end and, Trump saying that the Mueller investigation should end and, both calling their respective investigations witch hunts. laughing dude

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3  Trout Giggles    8 years ago

I'd like to hear from his own lips why he's not seeking re-election.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    8 years ago

Do you really think he'll tell the truth?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1    8 years ago

Of course not, but I still want to hear what his excuse is. I need a good belly laugh

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    8 years ago

Well, word has it right now he's going to claim it's a family thing. laughing dude

 
 
 
Skrekk
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3.1.3  Skrekk  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.1.2    8 years ago

I suspect there's some truth behind the family aspect but he also knows he can make far more money as a lobbyist and work half as hard.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.1.4  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Skrekk @3.1.3    8 years ago

Yeah, he'll go to work for the Koch's, wait, he's already working for them.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    8 years ago

Ryan is married to the former Janna Little is the niece of former Democratic Oklahoma Governor, US Senator and University of Oklahoma President David Boren. There has been no rumors of marital strife but I'd be curious the reasons Ryan and Janna Ryan decided to to get the hell out of town at this particular time. I suspect Ryan's long term political plans might include a run for President and being Speaker during Trump's term is going to leave a lasting stain. Still, I bet he is setting himself up for a windfall as a lobbyist. He is young and could rake in the big bucks out of office. I also suspect that he loathes he idea of running in toughly contested elections. Things were not going to get easier for Ryan long term...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @3.2    8 years ago
he loathes he idea of running in toughly contested elections

In other words, he hasn't got the spine for a rough election

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  JBB @3.2    8 years ago

Yep, not giving up the Speakership and, staying until after the election.

I can see Nunes standing in front of the mirror saying, "Hello Mr. Speaker" thinking he's going to be the next Speaker and, then hearing this report.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    8 years ago

Paul Ryan absolutely succeeded in transferring hundreds of billions of dollars into the pockets of capital and for that he will be handsomely rewarded.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Silent
4.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @4    8 years ago

As he should be. He could become president one day with that on his résumé. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.1    8 years ago

Maybe President of the Madison Wisconsin Rotary Club. President of the Unite States? Paul Ryan 20Never...

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
5  MrFrost    8 years ago

To be fair... Paul Ryan didn't want the job in the first place. But...he is also losing ground to a grassroots liberal in Wisconsin... I think he can see the writing on the wall. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6  Trout Giggles    8 years ago

He could do Arkansas a favor and convince Tom Cotton that it's futile to run again.....

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    8 years ago

Oklahoma's Junior Senator Lil James "Loopy" Lankford would make a good Looser Bookend matching Cotton...

Lankford's claim to fame before politics was a career as Head Counselor at Falls Creek Baptist Church Camp.

It was how he learned to talk like God. Have you heard him? Young and skinny he has a huge booming voice.

Oklahoma's Senior Senator James Mountain (Jack) Inhofe remains my personal nemesis. Darn his white ass.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
7  Kavika     8 years ago

UPDATE

House Speaker Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-Election

House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., will not seek re-election, a well-placed source confirms to NPR.

J. Scott Applewhite/AP

Updated at 9:46 a.m. ET

House Speaker Paul Ryan told Republicans in the House Wednesday that he will not run for re-election in 2018.

Ryan will not step down before then.

"This morning Speaker Ryan shared with his colleagues that this will be his last year as a member of the House," Brendan Buck, counselor to the speaker, said in a statement. "He will serve out his full term, run through the tape, and then retire in January.

"After nearly twenty years in the House, the speaker is proud of all that has been accomplished and is ready to devote more of his time to being a husband and a father. While he did not seek the position, he told his colleagues that serving as speaker has been the professional honor of his life, and he thanked them for the trust they placed in him. He will discuss his decision at a press conference immediately following the member meeting."

There have been rumors for some time that Ryan could retire. He already passed a signature piece of legislation on taxes, something he's been focused on since he began his public c

Congress is not expected to get much, if anything, else done this year.

Ryan's tenure has been something of an uneasy one since even before taking the job. Ryan took the job after House Speaker John Boehner was ousted, under pressure from conservatives in his conference.

He was thought to have little interest in the job, given his position as chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee. But he was roundly seen as the only person who could get the votes necessary to be elected to the post.

Those tensions didn't entirely go away. Under his tenure, Republicans were unable to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. After the high-profile failure last year, Ryan described Obamacare as

His relationship with President Trump was also an uneasy one. He was critical of Trump's demeanor during the 2016 campaign, but he soon swallowed those criticisms when Trump won.

Hoping to push forward on conservative legislation, Ryan worked with the president more than against, but he was still — on a near-daily basis — quizzed by reporters on the latest Trump tweet or sound-off.

Ryan has also long been thought to have ambitions for higher office. Getting out of the spotlight now, especially in the Trump era, could help those ambitions. Ryan, the vice-presidential candidate with Mitt Romney in 2012, is, after all, only 48.

Being a congressional leader is usually not helpful to a politician's public image. They often become lightning rods for political partisanship. Getting out now, one theory goes, Ryan could lay low and potentially run for president at a later date.

Ryan's exit also adds another potential target for Democrats looking to take over the House this year. The filing deadline to get on the primary ballot in Wisconsin is June 1. The primary is Aug. 14.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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7.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Kavika @7    8 years ago
Ryan's exit also adds another potential target for Democrats looking to take over the House this year. The filing deadline to get on the primary ballot in Wisconsin is June 1. The primary is Aug. 14.

It could also throw a monkey wrench into that district putting a Republican primary challenge up and, making it so that a more centrist Republican gets elected. Of course I doubt the Republicans have learned that the Roy Moore's of the country aren't electable.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Expert
7.2  Kavika   replied to  Kavika @7    8 years ago

Perhaps we'll have a democratic steel worker representing Ryan's old district.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
7.2.1  Explorerdog  replied to  Kavika @7.2    8 years ago

How I wish he could rid a turtle out of town.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
7.2.2  Explorerdog  replied to  Explorerdog @7.2.1    8 years ago

oops ride fits better!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7.2.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Kavika @7.2    8 years ago

That would be outstanding. Thank You for the update and for contributing, JBB...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.2.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Explorerdog @7.2.1    8 years ago
How I wish he could ride a turtle out of town.

Well he wouldn't have to fear falling off McConnell's shell...

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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7.2.5  Raven Wing   replied to  Kavika @7.2    8 years ago

Another Republican is jumping ship as well,  Rep. Dennis Ross from Florida who is retiring after only 8 years. I have seen a lot of Republicans 'retiring' or being ousted for misconduct in the last few months. Looks like the sinking ship is listing more and more each day.

Republicans retiring in 2018:

Retiring Senate Republicans

  1. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee
  2. Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Arizona
  3. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah 

Retiring House Republicans

  1. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas
  2. Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pennsylvania
  3. Rep. John Duncan, R-Tennessee
  4. Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas
  5. Rep. Rodney P. Frelinghuysen, R-New Jersey
  6. Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Virginia
  7. Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-South Carolina
  8. Rep. Gregg Harper, R-Mississippi
  9. Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas
  10. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California 
  11. Rep. Lynn Jenkins, R-Kansas
  12. Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas
  13. Rep. Frank LoBiondo, R-New Jersey   
  14. Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas
  15. Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Washington
  16. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Florida
  17. Rep. Ed Royce, R-California
  18. Rep. Bill Shuster, R-Pennsylvania
  19. Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas
  20. Rep. Dave Trott, R-Michigan
  21. Rep. Tom Rooney, R-Florida
  22. Rep. Ryan Costello, R-Pennsylvania
  23. Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin
  24. Rep. Dennis Ross, R-Florida

Incumbents retiring from public office

  • Democratic Party   10 Democrats
  • Republican Party   25 Republicans
 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
9  luther28    8 years ago

Good!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Quiet
10  Paula Bartholomew    8 years ago

I will believe it when I see of picture of him carrying a cardboard box out of his office with his belongings in it.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
11  MrFrost    8 years ago

I wonder if he told the koch brothers he wouldn't be running again before or after he took their 500k?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
11.1  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @11    8 years ago

2 strokes of a pen and that campaign war chest goes right into his pocket. Good riddance to that Koch sucking weasel.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
12  JohnRussell    8 years ago

There will be a few conservative dead-enders who try to find some measure of honor, or perverse hope, in Paul Ryan’s decision to quit not just the speakership but the House as well at the end of his last miserable term in a chamber to which he has devoted a political lifetime.

Don’t fall for it.

Ryan is leaving in shame after playing every card wrong in a high-stakes game where—despite his tepid protestations—the Wisconsinite ended up playing the pivotal role in creating the crisis that is Donald Trump’s presidency. Ryan could, as the supposed adult in the room, have stood up to Trump the candidate and to Trump the president. Instead, he failed to respond as anything more than a sycophantic yes man.

Ryan could have stood up to Trump when it mattered. Instead, he chose party over principle.

Ryan’s decision to stand down is an awful end for a political careerist who came to Capitol Hill the better part of 30 years ago and began running for Congress in his native southeastern Wisconsin district more than 20 years ago.

Ryan’s career intersected with history at many points. But it will be recalled not for the highlights but for his fateful decision to join Trump on the low road.

No one was more responsible for the political advancement of Donald Trump than Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House and the 2012 Republican vice presidential nominee who was supposedly the embodiment of responsible Republicanism when the billionaire launched his presidential bid in 2015.

Ryan’s steadfast refusal to reject Trump’s candidacy—even as the Wisconsin Republican griped about the New Yorker’s extreme statements—sent a signal that Trump was acceptable to party elites. Ryan’s party-over-principles position provided essential aid and comfort to Trump throughout the campaign, and the speaker proved to be even more loyal after Trump was sworn in January 20, 2017.

This loyalty has come at an enormous cost—to a nation that is experiencing political chaos on an unprecedented level, to a Congress that has abandoned its constitutional duty to check and balance an out-of-control and frequently lawless presidency, and to a Republican Party that Ryan once sought to lead.

Ryan’s decision to forgo what was shaping up as a difficult reelection run at home in Wisconsin—where Democrats Randy Bryce, a union activist whose candidacy had drawn national attention and endorsements, and Janesville school-board member Cathy Myers have been competing for the chance to challenge the speaker—and an even more difficult effort to retain GOP control of the House, is an acknowledgement of the catastrophe.

It is also a tacit admission that his once-promising career has been ruined by popular recognition of his inability to lead—or even function—in the shadow of Trump and Trumpism.

 
 
 
KDinAZ
Freshman Silent
13  KDinAZ    8 years ago

"After nearly twenty years in the House, the speaker is proud of all that has been accomplished..."

Other than screwing over most of the country with this latest "tax cut" scheme, what exactly has he accomplished again?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
14  epistte    8 years ago

Don't let the door hit you the way out, you self-righteous asshole.  Raul Ryan and the rest of the GOP only cared about deficits during Democratic administrations because Trump is on track to add a trillion dollars and this hypocritical prick is silent about it.

This may be the best news that I have heard this week, other than the raid on Trump's lawyer.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
14.1  arkpdx  replied to  epistte @14    8 years ago

Hmm!  I don't recall you complain at all when Obama doubled the national debt. I also remember that it was unpatriotic to raise the debt ceiling under Bush (at least it wasn't according to Obama) but it was fine and imperative under Obama. So just who is being hypocritical now? 

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Participates
14.1.1  epistte  replied to  arkpdx @14.1    8 years ago

If Geo. Dubya Bush had driven the country into the ground during his 8 years we wouldn't have needed the stimulus and the insane tax cuts to revive it afterward.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
14.1.2  arkpdx  replied to  epistte @14.1.1    8 years ago

Well at least you are consistent at blaming others for what Obama did. Is anything unfortunate that happened during Obama his fault?  Have you ever criticized any of his actions. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
14.1.3  Raven Wing   replied to  arkpdx @14.1.2    8 years ago

And you are consistent in making every kind of inane excuse for Trump's ineptitude. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
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14.1.4  Sunshine  replied to  arkpdx @14.1.2    8 years ago
Well at least you are consistent at blaming others for what Obama did. Is anything unfortunate that happened during Obama his fault?

the blame game is all they know.  Hillary's playbook.  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Sunshine @14.1.4    8 years ago

Guess who's going to take the blame when trump starts a war.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
14.1.6  Sunshine  replied to  devangelical @14.1.5    8 years ago

yeah yeah....same sh*t touted about Korea.  Where is that war?

The fear mongering never ends.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
14.1.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sunshine @14.1.6    8 years ago
yeah yeah....same sh*t touted about Korea.  Where is that war?

Everyone above the age of 15, except Trump, understands war with N. Korea means war with China.

Someone must have explained this reality to Trump...

 
 
 
epistte
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14.1.8  epistte  replied to  arkpdx @14.1.2    8 years ago
Well at least you are consistent at blaming others for what Obama did. Is anything unfortunate that happened during Obama his fault?

Do you understand that the economy doesn't reset itself at the start of each administration?

The stimulus and the tax cuts would not have been needed of the economy wasn't in a free fall in November/December 2008.  I didn't like the tax cuts because a bigger infrastructure plan would have done more to rehabilitate the economy. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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14.1.9  arkpdx  replied to  Raven Wing @14.1.3    8 years ago

And cite one excuse I ever gave. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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14.1.10  Raven Wing   replied to  arkpdx @14.1.9    8 years ago

Sorry, I don't have enough time, nor the desire to repeat every excuse you have made for Trump. If you are that forgetful, go back and re-read your own comments. I'm not your Secretary nor your keeper. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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14.1.11  arkpdx  replied to  Raven Wing @14.1.10    8 years ago

So you are making an accusation but are not prepared to back it up. Well that is very liberal of you. That is a liberal trait you know, accuse someone without actual proof. 

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
14.2    replied to  epistte @14    8 years ago
This may be the best news that I have heard this week, other than the raid on Trump's lawyer.

Oh, so you're thrilled the FBI raided the office of Trump's attorney in clear violation of client and attorney privelge. This was overreach by prosecutors into the privileged communications between Mr. Cohen and his client, Mr. Trump was completely inappropriate and unnecessary.

As a card carrying member of the ACLU you should furious about this, but than again since you believe the ACLU should get involved in causes to further communism in the United States it's not suprising you're joyful about it.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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14.2.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  @14.2    8 years ago
Oh, so you're thrilled the FBI raided the office of Trump's attorney in clear violation of client and attorney privelge.

No violation, it was a legal search warrant issued by the U.S. Attorney's office in New York state.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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14.2.2  lennylynx  replied to  @14.2    8 years ago

Anything they find that violates ANY law will not be admissible.  Obviously, everything they did was legal or they wouldn't have done it.  Do you think the FBI are idiots?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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14.2.3  Skrekk  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @14.2.1    8 years ago

Moreover the warrant far exceeded the normal standard of probable cause.    The court would only issue a warrant on the records of an attorney (much less a no-knock warrant) if the feds had overwhelming evidence of a crime.

 
 
 
magnoliaave
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14.2.4  magnoliaave  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @14.2.1    8 years ago

I just read on MSN that they were primarily looking for the tape when Trump said his unflattering remarks about women.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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14.2.5  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  magnoliaave @14.2.4    8 years ago

I've heard that too, all they have to do is go to Utube.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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14.2.8  MrFrost  replied to    8 years ago

You mean the same FBI that announced that Hillary was under investigation, but never made a peep about the fact that trump was ALSO under investigation? THAT FBI? 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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16  livefreeordie    8 years ago

Hopefully he will be replaced by an actual conservative.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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16.1  Skrekk  replied to  livefreeordie @16    8 years ago

Maybe your pro-Armageddon buddy Pastor Jeffress can move to Janesville and run for that House district seat?    It would be a real shame if we had a sane and ethical representative there.

 
 
 
epistte
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16.2  epistte  replied to  livefreeordie @16    8 years ago
Hopefully he will be replaced by an actual conservative.

What is your idea of what an actual conservative is? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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16.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  epistte @16.2    8 years ago

Male. White, and Protestant

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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16.2.2  livefreeordie  replied to  epistte @16.2    8 years ago

Someone who adheres to keeping the federal government in adherence to the Constitution.

Conservatism (especially American conservatism) centers around the principles of our founders and those who influenced them that only by restraining government can we truly enjoy our natural rights and liberties including the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.

The following from founders exemplify this ideology

The founders sought to establish a restrained federal government where the people and the state's retain their sovereignty. The left in the name of "progress" has sought to put us back under the thumb of the state instead of the people and the state's.

"A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. Papers, 1:134 ME 1:209.

"Every man, and every body of men on earth, possesses the right of self-government... This, like all other natural rights, may be abridged or modified in its exercise by their own consent, or by the law of those who depute them, if they meet in the right of others." --Thomas Jefferson: Opinion on Residence Bill, 1790. ME 3:60

James Madison Federalist No. 45, Alleged Danger from the Powers of the Union to the State Governments Considered, Independent Journal, January 26, 1788;
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.” –

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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16.2.3  livefreeordie  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.2.1    8 years ago

Nonsense.

 
 
 
epistte
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16.2.4  epistte  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.2.1    8 years ago
Male. White, and Protestant

You forgot heterosexual and wealthy.

 
 
 
epistte
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16.2.5  epistte  replied to  livefreeordie @16.2.2    8 years ago
Conservatism (especially American conservatism) centers around the principles of our founders and those who influenced them that only by restraining government can we truly enjoy our natural rights and liberties including the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.

What has been wrongly taken from you by the government?

If the laws or actions of the federal government were unconstitutional, as you seem to believe, the SCOTUS would have nullified the law, but apparently, you think that you know more about the Constitution than someone who has spent their life studying that document.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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16.2.6  livefreeordie  replied to  epistte @16.2    8 years ago
Here is the Conservative ideal of reducing government- this original proposal written by me and submitted to the Republicans for decades (only adding new govt programs like Obamacare as they are added to the Federal Govt)
The first priority of the Federal Govt is National Defense. Everything else is a very distant second. And much of what our marxist/Statist government has been doing is outside of the authority given the Federal Govt by the Constitution. Instead of expanding socialism and totalitarianism in this country, let's try the Constitution and expanding liberty.
It should be the priority of good govt to repeal the 16th amendment and end corporate and individual income taxes, and the Estate Tax. They violate the principles of liberty our nation was founded upon
We need to abolish the Depts of Education, Energy, Health & Human Services, Labor, OSHA, EPA, Transportation, phase out SS & Medicare, abolish the Federal Minimum Wage, abolish the FCC, FDA, FTC, NLRB, return student loan programs back to private lenders, end all Food Stamp programs, Federal welfare, Federal unemployment insurance payments, Obamacare, and a host of other unconstitutional programs. These are all unconstitutional programs that promote a socialist totalitarian state. We need to get rid of the Federal Reserve and take back control of our monetary system.
Taking some of the steps above would reduce our deficit to near zero and reduce the debt by trillions
We need to institute a national sales tax like the Fair Tax proposal, and renegotiate all of our Trade Agreements and associations allowing for a renewed system of tariffs.
We need to remove ourselves from the UN and ask them to relocate to another country, and then sell that high priced property for private development.
We need to sell off some of the 640 million acres of Federal Lands (28% of all land in the US). There are 10's of millions of acres of Federal lands that lie dormant and are not used for anything (I'm not referring to National Parks or Forests). In some states like Nevada, the US Govt is the largest landowner. Use that money to pay down our debt. Selling off this land would provide cash to the govt for debt reduction and would result in massive economic growth.
We need to sell the 10s of thousands of vacant Federal buildings that are costing taxpayers BILLIONS to maintain.
Government estimates suggest there may be 77,000 empty or underutilized buildings across the country. Taxpayers own them, and even vacant, they're expensive. The Office of Management and Budget says these buildings could be costing taxpayers $1.7 billion a year.
The Federal Govt needs to stop meddling into issues of drugs, alcohol, or tobacco. Those are issues to be determined by the States
 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
16.2.7  livefreeordie  replied to  epistte @16.2.5    8 years ago

SCOTUS has been complicit in the fascist takeover of the government implemented first by FDR after he threatened to add justices to SCOTUS after they initially struck down the New Deal

our Founders warned of the Constitutional danger to the Republic from the Judiciary

Thomas Jefferson

Nothing in the Constitution has given them [the federal judges] a right to decide for the Executive, more than to the Executive to decide for them. . . . The opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves, in their own sphere of action, but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch.” (Letter to Abigail Adams, September 11, 1804

“Our Constitution . . . intending to establish three departments, co-ordinate and independent that they might check and balance one another, it has given—according to this opinion to one of them alone the right to prescribe rules for the government of others; and to that one, too, which is unelected by and independent of the nation. . . . The Constitution, on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please.” (Letter to Judge Spencer Roane, Sept. 6, 1819)

“You seem . . . to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so . . . and their power [is] the more dangerous, as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots.” (Thomas Jefferson Letter to William Jarvis, Sept. 28, 1820)

“At the establishment of our constitutions, the judiciary bodies were supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government. Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions, nevertheless, become law by precedent, sapping, by little and little, the foundations of the constitution, and working its change by construction, before any one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be trusted for life if secured against all liability to account.” (Letter to A. Coray, October 31, 1823)

Alexander Hamilton Federalist 78

"...the judiciary, from the nature of its functions, will always be the least dangerous to the political rights of the Constitution; because it will be least in a capacity to annoy or injure them. The Executive not only dispenses the honors, but holds the sword of the community. The legislature not only commands the purse, but prescribes the rules by which the duties and rights of every citizen are to be regulated. The judiciary, on the contrary, has no influence over either the sword or the purse; no direction either of the strength or of the wealth of the society; and can take no active resolution whatever. It may truly be said to have neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgment"

  • “[T]here is not a syllable in the plan under consideration which directly empowers the national courts to construe the laws according to the spirit of the Constitution.” ~Alexander Hamiltonin Federalist Paper No. 81 (1787)
 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
16.2.8  livefreeordie  replied to  epistte @16.2.5    8 years ago

“you think that you know more about the Constitution than someone who has spent their life studying that document.”

I have been studying the Constitution and the writings of those who wrote it, the Notes from the Constitutional Convention, and Justice Story and other Justices (Scalia, Hugo Black, Marshall, and others) for 60 years

so yes I do consider myself an expert on the Constitution 

 
 
 
epistte
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16.2.9  epistte  replied to  livefreeordie @16.2.6    8 years ago
The first priority of the Federal Govt is National Defense. Everything else is a very distant second. And much of what our marxist/Statist government has been doing is outside of the authority given the Federal Govt by the Constitution. Instead of expanding socialism and totalitarianism in this country, let's try the Constitution and expanding liberty.

What liberty do you want?

The liberty to drink dirty water, not be educated, to work 80 hours a week for $.50 an hour and die at the age of 30 because you can't afford basic healthcare?

What other countries have adopted your ideas and have a better quality of life?

 
 
 
Skrekk
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16.2.10  Skrekk  replied to  epistte @16.2.9    8 years ago
What liberty do you want?

Larry wants Social Security to be ended after he's done using it and he wants gay couples to be denied the civil rights he enjoys.     And the KJV bible should be the only book people are allowed to read.    So pretty much the same liberties which the Afghan Taliban seek.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
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16.2.11  livefreeordie  replied to  epistte @16.2.9    8 years ago

Most of the world is either Marxist or some other totalitarian government. We began departing from liberty under Wilson, accelerated by FDR, LBJ, and Nixon.  Then Obama sought to finalize the transformation of this country into a totalitarian state

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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16.2.12  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Trout Giggles @16.2.1    8 years ago
Male. White, and Protestant

You forgot, salutes the Confederate flag and, has at least 100 guns.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
16.2.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  epistte @16.2.9    8 years ago
The liberty to drink dirty water, not be educated, to work 80 hours a week for $.50 an hour and die at the age of 30 because you can't afford basic healthcare?

It sounds more like he wants to go live in rural India where they have dirt roads, 20 family members living in a 3 bedroom hut, no constitutional protections for minorities from the tyranny of the majority, States could reinstitute slavery which will effectively eliminate unemployment, if you are starving you can just sell yourself to the nearest corporation which means you won't need that public education that used to teach slavery was anathema to a free society, oh, and with the repeal of the 16th amendment removing any federal taxes our States would have to manage our nuclear arsenal and all military defense which I'm sure they'll all agree to take care of out of their own pockets. It's a toothless backwater theocrat or plantation owners Utopia!

 
 
 
epistte
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16.2.14  epistte  replied to  livefreeordie @16.2.11    8 years ago
tMost of the world is either Marxist or some other totalitarian government. We began departing from liberty under Wilson, accelerated by FDR, LBJ, and Nixon.Why dodnt you get off the intet, stop using  parts of your life that werent brought to you by the government and go live free of the goivernment in the mountains.

You still have yet to explain what liberty was taken from you, or how your idea of minarchist ideals creates a better society. What freedom do you seek that you do not have today? What do you accomplish by tearing apart the 21-century society and turning the country back 200 years?

Maybe you should pray about it. if god doesn't deliver it to you in 10 days then maybe you aren't supposed to have it. 

 
 
 
epistte
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16.2.15  epistte  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @16.2.13    8 years ago

Apparently, Bangladesh or Haiti are his ideas of utopia. 

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
16.2.18    replied to  epistte @16.2.14    8 years ago

Skirting the CoC [ph]

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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16.2.19  Raven Wing   replied to    8 years ago

good one laughing dude crazy

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
16.2.20  lib50  replied to    8 years ago
The Democrats idea of Utopia is Stalin's Russia.

Is that you projecting again?

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
16.2.22  MrFrost  replied to    8 years ago
The Democrats idea of Utopia is Stalin's Russia.

It is? You sure? 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
16.2.23  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @16.2.7    8 years ago

Um, you know it's 2018 now, right? 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
16.2.24  Ender  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @16.2.13    8 years ago

Gotta laugh when people say they want to take away the very things they enjoy.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
16.3  lib50  replied to  livefreeordie @16    8 years ago
Hopefully he will be replaced by an actual conservative.

Who would that be?  That's what republicans said about HIM.  Perhaps instead of believing what they say conservatives should actually watch what they do.  They aren't the same. They say 'fiscally conservative' but NEVER govern that way, which is why the deficit always goes UP SO MUCH MORE with republicans.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
16.4  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @16    8 years ago
Hopefully he will be replaced by an actual conservative.

Well, he sucked some koch for 500k, so he has a little money socked away for a Daniels or two. Maybe he can save a few bucks and get that eddie munster hair do fixed. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Expert
17  Ender    8 years ago

Yea !  Good riddance to the smarmy, smug bastard.

Imo he wants to get out before all the shit they caused hits the fan.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Participates
17.1  Raven Wing   replied to  Ender @17    8 years ago

" Imo he wants to get out before all the shit they caused hits the fan."

Him and 24 other GOPers. They can now see the handwriting on the wall and don't want to go down with the sinking sh*t.....er...ship. angel

 
 
 
lennylynx
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18  lennylynx    8 years ago

President Trump has caused Lyin' Ryan to quit.  Way to go President Trump!!   

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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19  Raven Wing     8 years ago

NRA accepted donations from 20 Russian-linked contributors

Hmmmm.....I wonder how this will affect those GOPers who have been staunchly supporting the NRA and accepting their big donations. Maybe this is another reason Ryan is jumping the Trump ship. He has been a big supporter of the NRA and likely received a good amount of donations from the NRA as well. I wonder how much of those donations were from Russian NRA donations? thinking  yelling   who me?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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20  Split Personality    8 years ago

Locked until the Author/Seeder returns & regains control of the conversations.  {SP}

 
 

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