Mueller has evidence that Trump lawyer met in Prague with Russians during campaign, sources say
Breaking News - Mueller has evidence that Trump lawyer met in Prague with Russians during campaign, sources say...
WASHINGTON - The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump's personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy's report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.
It would also be one of the most significant developments thus far in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the presidency.
Trump's threats to fire Mueller or the deputy attorney general overseeing the investigation, Rod Rosenstein, escalated this week when the FBI raided Cohen's home, hotel room and office Monday. The raid was unrelated to the Trump-Russia collusion investigation, but instead focused on payments made to women who have said they had sexual relationships with Trump.
Cohen has denied for months that he ever has been in Prague or colluded with Russia during the campaign. Neither he nor his lawyer responded to requests for comment.
It's unclear whether Mueller's investigators also have evidence that Cohen met with a prominent Russian - purportedly Konstantin Kosachev, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin –– in the Czech capital. Kosachev, who chairs the Foreign Affairs Committee of a body of the Russian legislature, the Federation Council, also has denied visiting Prague in 2016. This month, Kosachev was among 24 high-profile Russians whom the U.S. sanctioned in retaliation for Russia's meddling.
But investigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered the Czech Republic through Germany, apparently in August or early September 2016 as the former spy reported, said the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Cohen wouldn't have needed a passport for such a trip, because both countries are in the Schengen Area, in which 26 nations have open borders. The disclosure still left a puzzle: The sources did not say whether Cohen took a commercial flight or private jet to Europe, and gave no explanation of why no record of such a trip has surfaced.
Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller's office, declined to comment.
Unconfirmed reports of a clandestine Prague meeting came to public attention in January 2017, with the publication of a dossier purporting to detail the Trump campaign's interactions with Russia - a series of reports that former British MI6 officer Christopher Steele gathered from Kremlin sources for Trump's political opponents, including Democrat Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Cohen's alleged communications with the Russians were mentioned several times in Steele's reports, which he shared with the FBI.
When the news site Buzzfeed published the entire dossier Jan. 11, 2017, Trump denounced the news organization as "a failing pile of garbage" and said the document was "false and fake."
Cohen, in a Twitter post, said, "I have never been to Prague in my life."
In the ensuing months, Cohen allowed Buzzfeed to inspect his passport and, again on Twitter, said, "The #Russian dossier is WRONG!"
Last August, an attorney for Cohen, Stephen Ryan, delivered to Congress a point-by-point rebuttal of the dossier's allegations. "Mr. Cohen is not aware of any 'secret TRUMP campaign/Kremlin relationship, Ryan said.
Democratic investigators for the House and Senate intelligence committees, which are conducting parallel inquiries into Russia's election interference, also are skeptical about whether Cohen was truthful about his 2016 travels to Europe when the interviewed him last October, two people familiar with those investigations said this week. Cohen has publicly acknowledged making three trips to Europe that year - to Italy in July, England in early October and a third after Trump's November election. The investigators intend to press Cohen for more information, the sources said.
One of the sources said congressional investigators have "a high level of interest" in Cohen's European travel, with their doubts fueled by what they deem to be weak documentation Cohen provided about his whereabouts around the time the Prague meeting supposedly occurred.
Cohen has said he was only in New York and briefly in Los Angeles in August, when the meeting may have occurred, though the sources said it also could have been held in early September.
Evidence that Cohen was in Prague "certainly helps undermine his credibility," said Jill Wine-Banks, a former Watergate prosecutor who lives in Chicago. "It doesn't matter who he met with. His denial was that I was never in Prague. Having proof that he was is, for most people, going to be more than enough to say I don't believe anything else he says."
"I think that, given the relationship between Michael Cohen and the president," Wine-Banks said, "it's not believable that Michael Cohen did not tell him about his trip to Prague."
The dossier alleges that Cohen, two Russians and several Eastern European hackers met at the Prague office of a Russian government-backed social and cultural organization, Rossotrudnichestvo. The location was selected to provide an alternative explanation in case the rendezvous was exposed, according to Steele's Kremlin sources, cultivated during 20 years of spying on Russia. It said Oleg Solodukhin, the deputy chief of Rossotrudnichestvo's operation in the Czech Republic, attended the meeting, too.
Further, it alleges that Cohen, Kosachev and other attendees discussed "how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers in Europe who had worked under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign."
U.S. intelligence agencies and cyber experts say Kremlin-backed hackers pirated copies of thousands of emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chief John Podesta in 2015 and 2016, some of which politically damaging, including messages showing that the DNC was biased toward Clinton in the party's nomination battle against Sen. Bernie Sanders. Mueller's investigators have sought to learn who passed the emails to WikiLeaks, a London-based transparency group, which published them in July and October, embarrassing Clinton and her backers.
Citing information from an unidentified "Kremlin insider," Steele's dossier says the Prague meeting agenda also included discussion –– "in cryptic language for security reasons –– of how to "sweep it all under the carpet and make sure no connection could be fully established or proven." Romanians were among the hackers present, it says, and the discussion touched on using Bulgaria as a location where they could "lie low."
It is a felony for anyone to hack email accounts. Other laws forbid foreigners from contributing money or in-kind services to U.S. political campaigns.
If Cohen met with Russians and hackers in Prague as described in the dossier, it could be the most compelling evidence so far that the Russians and Trump campaign aides collaborated. Mueller's office also has focused on two meetings in spring 2016 when Russians offered to provide Trump campaign aides with "dirt" on Clinton - including thousands of emails.
Cohen is in the spotlight because of the FBI raids on his offices and home in New York. Various news organizations have reported that investigators principally sought evidence on non-Russia matters, including a covert $130,000 payment Cohen made days before the 2016 election to porn star Stormy Daniels to silence her about an alleged affair with Trump. The FBI raids also seized some of Cohen's computers and cellphones, among other evidence, according to these reports.
CNN, which reported Friday that Cohen's business dealings have been a subject of a separate months-long investigation by prosecutors in the federal Southern District of New York, also quoted sources as saying that Cohen often recorded phone conversations and that the FBI could have those recording.
If the raids turned up evidence that would be useful to Mueller's investigation, rather than the one being done in New York, it would be shared with Mueller's team unless a court imposes conditions regarding the transfer of evidence, said former Justice Department official Michael Zeldin. "Given the sensitivities in this case, I expect evidentiary sharing decisions will be mediated by main DOJ and FBI headquarters," Zeldin said.
Before Trump's election, Cohen spent almost a decade in high-profile positions in Trump's real estate company and built a reputation as Trump's "fixer." In 2016, he was an informal adviser to the Trump campaign and was one of Trump's fiercest defenders in television interviews.
When Trump took office, Cohen became Trump's personal attorney.
He also formed a law firm, Michael D. Cohen & Associates, which in April formed a strategic alliance with the Washington lobbying firm Squire Patton Boggs. With the publicity surrounding Cohen's role in providing hush money to Daniels, the two firms disclosed this week that they severed their connection.
Soon after Trump took office, The New York Times reported that Cohen was involved in promoting a secret "peace plan" for Ukraine and Russia that was the brainchild of a little-known Ukrainian legislator, Andrii Artemenko. The plan would have ended U.S. sanctions against Moscow and allowed Russia, if it pulled back militants invading Ukraine, to keep control of Crimea under a 50- to 100-year lease, if voters approved.
In February 2017, he told the Times, he left the plan on the desk of Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn, who resigned days later and later pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about contacts with the Russian ambassador. But in subsequent interviews, Cohen denied delivering the plan to the White House.
Knowledge that Cohen may have traveled to Prague during the campaign could heighten Trump's risk of being prosecuted for obstruction of justice if news reports are accurate that he is considering firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the Mueller investigation, or Mueller.
If the Prague meeting occurred, Kosachev's possible involvement would be especially significant given his close ties to Putin and other roles he has played in covert Moscow efforts to destabilize other countries, Russia experts said.
Kosachev appears to have supported Trump over Clinton in early June of 2016, according to a post on his Facebook page at the time.
"Trump looks slightly more promising," Kosachev wrote. "At least, he is capable of giving a shake to Washington. He is certainly a pragmatist and not a missionary like his main opponent Clinton."
The Prague meeting would have occurred when Trump advisers were jittery about publicity about the campaign's Russian connections and seemingly friendly posture toward Moscow, according to the dossier and a source familiar with the federal investigation.
Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort resigned Aug. 19, soon after the revelation that he had received $12.7 million in consulting fees over five years from the pro-Russia Party of Regions in Ukraine. Manafort was instrumental in the 2010 election of pro-Russia President Viktor Yanukovych, who was ousted in early 2014 and fled to Moscow.
Another flap stemmed from a secretive maneuver at the Republican National Convention in July. Party officials weakened language in the 2016 Republican platform calling for an increase in U.S. military aid to support Ukraine's fight with Russia-backed separatists who invaded Eastern Ukraine and Crimea.
The dossier cited multiple sources as reporting that Kremlin officials also had grown edgy about the possible exposure of their secret "active measures" effort to defeat Clinton and help Trump. According to the dossier, Russian diplomat Mikhail Kalugin was brought home from Russia's embassy in Washington last August because he had played a key role in coordinating the offensive. McClatchy quoted several Russia experts Feb. 15 as saying they suspected that Kalugin was an intelligence operative. Kalugin has denied any espionage.
Cohen's attendance at a Prague meeting like the one described in the dossier would have been a logical assignment for him. Trump had long used him to solve business and legal problems, three Republican operatives who were close to the campaign said.
One source with close ties to the campaign said Cohen "wanted a bigger and more formal role (in the campaign), but there were a lot of long knives out for him within the campaign and the larger GOP infrastructure in part because he was a Democrat and treated people horribly."
Beginning last year, Cohen took a hand in fundraising for the Republican National Committee and Trump's re-election campaign. Cohen was one of four co-chairs of a fundraiser at the Trump International Hotel in mid-2017 that raised about $10 million for the two committees. In April 2017, Cohen was named national deputy finance chairman at the RNC, not long after his March announcement that he had registered as a Republican.
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May we count down till someone says, "But Mueller has no evidence of collusion with Russia"?
Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy's report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.
Sounds like another popcorn fart instead of being a bombshell. Where's that confirming evidence? Who witnessed what went on and what was said?
Yup, AND WHY LEAK IT BOBBY?
Yes. Why would he? A good prosecutor waits until he is ready to present all of his evidence at trial. The idea that Robert Mueller has not leaked any evidence of collusion...or obstruction of justice...or bank fraud...or money laundering...or that he does not have solid convict-able cases on all of those charges is laughable. There is every chance that he already has a noose around Trump's neck that he will never be able to get out of, but that he is just not dotted all of the i's and crossed all of the t's yet. Mueller is a very, very precise and airtight man.
He is the consummate professional. The very best of the best. There is, quite frankly, no one in America and maybe in the world, better at doing what he does.
Stop reading right after this sentence. The same unnamed, unverifiable sources that have been keeping this bullshit going for far too long. If they can't put a name that can be interviewed and information can be resourced they should sit on it because it is BS.
As for Mueller and his paid Obama and Clinton henchmen; until they can come up with absolute proof that Trump directly colluded with the Russians- and I don't mean any social media bullshit that the US does to both our allies and enemies to influence elections- they need to get a move on and stop wasting tax payer money to line their pockets. Of course they can bring even more charges against Russians that will never, ever, be brought before a court- to justify the continue existence; but again waste of tax payer money. So much for the left being concerned with wasteful spending.
If Comey had went after Hillary with half the intensity and bias that Mueller has Trump- instead of handing out immunity like candy to multiple witnesses (IE potential criminals)- the Democrats might have had a much better candidate that would have beaten Trump; and Obama and Democratic POTUS could have swept this whole mess under the rug- praying it never saw light of day. Of course Comey had no intention of ever bringing charges against Hillary; which is the real difference- and why the investigation was conducted so badly; and Hillary let off the hook. Negligence is part of the treason law. Comey in his statement clearing Clinton spelled out the very definition of negligence; but wouldn't act on it.
Do you recall the search warrants that were used to search Cohens office and, hotel rooms? Those warrants collect some very interesting information for Mueller, here's a sample.
Now, the Steele dossier has been called fake by you guys on the Right since it came out, it seems that there is another part of it now that has been proven to be real. When are you guys going to get it? Trump lied, Cohen lied and, the four guys who plead guilty lied, so far the only one who hasn't lied are the ones saying that Trump is guilty.
It also means that there is evidence in Mueller's hands that supports the Steele Dossier. If you have evidence of something different that doesn't come from Breitbart or, FAUX Noise or, Lush Rimbaugh please present it.
Multiple investigative committees of the House and the Senate along with the FBI cleared HRC...
Mrs. Clinton who has not held public office for over five years was a victim of Trump and Russia.
Let's take a look at this statement.
Yep, not many investigation here, they went real easy on her over the past thirty years. /s/
I don't give a good flying fuck that Hillary Clinton lost the Presidential Election in 2016 except for there needs to be an investigation into how much how much did the Russians interfere in it and I get sick of the GOP whining like little bitches that that is the reason why Democrats and liberals are so concerned about looking into Russian interference into our elections! It's not!. This is not an issue of "Oh my god! I am so sad that Hillary lost and I want to overturn the election! Oh whoa the fuck is me! Sob! Sob!" I could give a shit! We just don't like other countries, especially enemies fucking with our elections! Especially when it seems like the guy who got elected President likes sucking the dick of the head of the enemy country!
What this is about is how much was the Trump campaign involved with the Russians and how much did it present a national security threat to us then and how does it present a national threat to us now. In other words what does Putin have to blackmail Trump with and what are we going to do about it, because he obviously has something or Trump would at least be pretending to try to protect our 2018 and 2020 elections and he is doing jack shit about either one, most likely because his handler Vlad has told him that they will benefit him and the GOP. Personally I do not want Russia deciding the outcome of OUR elections!
Whatever...but will you think when Mueller pulls a Comey and finds no evidence of, or "intent" to commit, a crime that a "reasonable" prosecutor would care to pursue. We all know that nothing will come from this sideshow for sore losers.
Sure. Now, here's the question back at you, If Mueller finds that Trump committed obstruction of justice and, worked with the Russians to fix the elections will you accept it and, call for Trumps impeachment?
Do We? It is inconceivable Trump's sons, son in law and over a dozen campaign officials knew about Russiagate and Trump did not...
And you actually believe this moronic conspiracy crap? Without clear and convincing evidence? /sadly smh/
How in the world did they actually fuck with our elections? Would you be this upset if Hillary had won? Of course not!
Of course, if the evidence is there, but we both know there isn't any. An no, I would not want to see impeachment, because then we would have the religious zealot Pence in charge of things.
Obviously you did not read nor comprehend the article. CATCH UP!
Hillary was a victim of her own screw-ups !
And no, the dog down the street that farted, didn't cause her to slip and fall.
We would have a religious zealot who is a largely unknown, lame duck nobody who has NO mandate. His job will be to hold the chair down until 2020.
"We" don't know any such thing and, neither do you. At least Pence is saner than Trump.
What we now know is that an important claim of the Steele Dossier is true. This fact confirms Russian collusion...
I scan and speed read....not a bit observable evidence of any wrong doing was found. If you think there is some, please point it out.
When Nicky Haley will run and win to be the first female president of the USA.
What fact...that Cohen maybe went to Prague?
If Trump's personal lawyer lied about going to meet Russians in Prague in Aug of 2016, as media reports indicated yesterday ( a newspaper chain reported that Mueller has evidence that Cohen was in Prague at the relevant time period) it raises the likelihood of impeachment a great deal.
Why did Cohen lie about it? The dossier claimed he was there to meet with hackers who had hit the DNC and Podesta. If Cohen lied about being there, people who understand the issues will think the worst about Trump.
You will have to come out of your coma at some point and face reality.
His false claim he wasn't there by showing his passport was all the evidence the half wits and poorly educated needed to dismiss the dossier as fake. Now it turns out Cohen is as big a liar as his boss and more of the dossier has been confirmed adding to the already long list of damning evidence. Half a dozen Trump campaign and transition team members either indicted or pleading guilty, over a dozen Russian operatives indicted, Trump admitting to Lester Holt he fired Comey to stop the investigation, hundreds of thousands of dollars paid to keep a porn star and playboy playmate silent just prior to the election, dozens of Trump administration picks already out the door in one of the most chaotic Presidencies in history, all adding up to confirm Donald Trumps incomparable incompetence on top of likely criminal acts and coordination with an enemy foreign government executed in order to win the election.
I second that. Sounds like a fine choice and better than anything the other side can come up with or certainly ever has.
If Mueller is allowed to complete his investigation all of the way through with no interference and he clears Trump then that's it. He's clear and I won't argue with his findings even a little.
Oh, does he love hearing that and that's why he can't face his adoring fans, like you, and say "I couldn't find anything". Better to stage an unnecessary raid on Trump's lawyers office in order to provoke the President into firing him.
Just because you didn't like Obama, for what ever reason and, you don't like Hillary, it doesn't make either of them crooks. Can you prove, as in a court of law, that any of what you have stated is true? No, of course you can't because, if you could, you can bet that the DOJ and, a Republican Congress would have filed impeachment proceedings on Obama and, would have put Hillary UNDER the jail.
That might be true but, any way you look at it, the Republicans will only have the White House for four years at the most.
Keep dreaming. Republicans have been making that very same claim since 1993.
You should ask Darrell Issa how that worked out for him?
Not from me you didn't. I warned the Democrats that if they didn't watch their shit, Hillary wouldn't win the election and, Trump would be president, I said that in 2015 on Newsvine.
I'm sure there's more that we will learn in the coming days and weeks with regard to Mr. Cohen.
The payoffs are a sad example of what happens when voters no longer demand morality from their leaders. They've made a conscious decision that criminal behavior, immoral behavior, and irresponsible behavior is an acceptable trade off for policies and laws they've been persuaded to believe are in their benefit.
I don't think history will be kind to them.
Thing seem to be picking up steam for Mueller and his investigation. Time will only tell.
Though, I suspect you are right that history will be unkind to Trump and his minions...
when voters no longer demand morality from their leaders. They've made a conscious decision that criminal behavior, immoral behavior, and irresponsible behavior is an acceptable trade off for policies and laws they've been persuaded to believe are in their benefit.
That's why so many people voted for Hillary.
Mrs Clinton has zero to do with this. She has not held public office for five and a half years.
Can you spell, "E S P I O N A G E"? In case you did not know denial is not a river in Egypt...
This has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton or why she lost the election or in any way to excuse why Clinton lost the election. The election is long past and I am sick of right wingers constantly fucking saying out that this investigation has something to do with it when it does not. It has to do with why it seems that whenever you look at the Trump administration you turn up shady financial dealings with the Russians by all of them, especially with Russian oligarchs with Trump himself and everything to do with our National Security and how it is compromised with Trump's almost lover like relationship with Putin. It also has to do with wondering why Trump never seems to have a bad word to say against Putin no matter what he does. The simple fact is that it is obvious that Putin has a form of blackmail on Trump. It may be personal and sexually embarrassing or it maybe financial but it really doesn't matter, until we find out what it is and get rid of it (or him!) Trump is the most dangerous man to America in our nation's history.
And can you spell "P R O O F"?
The P R O O F is in Trump's behavior toward Putin. Putin is who he reports to and Trump is his spy asset.
BOOM! We have a winner! Please see comment number one for reference. That didn't take long...
To be fair, Trump HAS been pushing back against Putin and saying negative things toward him just recently. I have no doubt that Trump colluded with the Russians and is guilty of conspiracy, but he may not be as controlled by Putin as he has seemed to be.
Not unlike many of those who voted for Trump I expect Putin is having some serious buyer's remorse...
Not acceptable PROOF of anything, let alone a conspiracy. Last night's raids should show that Trump doesn't care what Putin thinks...unless you think it's a false flag.
sigh......Pj shakes her head and looks to the sky
Interestingly enough:
Tis an interesting read, factual (?) ... as well as food for thought!
Cue the deniers?
Oh, the left denies everything positive about Trump, but they don't deny climate change.
Well, he can RELEASE HIS FREAKING TAX RETURNS! If he has nothing to hide. Mueller already has them, but after all his carping after Obama's birth cert, maybe he should try proving it. Otherwise we all think he's guilty and has a lot to hide, that is how he is acting. Seen by the world.
Lol, Nope even if that were true, which it is not, it is not proof.
And that behavior would be what exactly?
Did he beg Putin for more time so he would be more flexible?
Nope!
Did he not put sanctions on Russia for their actions?
Nope! He did that too .
I know! He didn't send missiles and bombers into one of Russia's allies after Putin told him not to?
Nope?
So tell me again what behavior?
The evidence we have so far is that a couple of dozen ranking Trump campaign officials had inappropriate conversations with known Russian State Operatives regarding Russia's efforts to help Trump and to hack and otherwise thwart the Clinton campaign. All of those Trump operatives were legally bound to immediately report to law enforcement authorities any organized plan by a foreign power to illegally influence our American electoral system but not a single one of them ever did putting lie to the claim that there is no evidence of collusion. When dozens of different Trump campaign officials discussed the Russian's plan to thwart the US election system with an equal number of known Russian State Operatives and said nothing that in itself is irrefutable evidence of and proof of illegal collusion...
So, the question that is hanging over this whole affair right now is, "What did Trump know and, when did he know it?" which is the same question asked of Nixon during Watergate.
BINGO!
Please provide some kind of verifiable and irrefutable proof of all this, beyond vague conjecture and magical thinking. You simply can't do it, or you would have already.
That's Mueller's job.
Imagine a foreigner contacted you with information that they had a plan to, oh, I don't know, let's say rob Fort Knox and you never shared that information with law enforcement and then that foreign power drained Fort Knox. What do you think would/should be the consequences? Now imagine that same foreign power had not told only you of their plans but had also told all of your friends and family and so everyone around you knew what was planned but not a single one of you ever spoke up...
Gotta luv this country these days. "Guilty" until "Proven innocent" !
How did we get this far when "Innocent" until "Proven Guilty" was important. I suppose it depends on who it is one is "Looking" at.
The guilty pleas are mounting but this article is about is evidence. You know? That stuff the gop keeps saying doesn't exist...
The "Guilty Pleas" are about everything BUT Trump !
I don't find "Martha Stewart' type guilt's to be very "Earth Shattering" !
Pull EVERYONE dealing in politics into this mess, and every fucking one of them would be found guilty of lying about something or another ! Those "Gotchya" questions will get even the smartest person in the world, Every Fucking time !
Not true. The Obama administration was investigated multitudinous times by the gop in Congress with not one indictment...
No, this article is about conjecture and rumor
especially relevant is this point madmitted in the article. There is NO evidence that the trip even occurred
“The disclosure still left a puzzle: The sources did not say whether Cohen took a commercial flight or private jet to Europe, and gave no explanation of why no record of such a trip has surfaced.”
What you are vainly trying to dismiss as mere rumors is what everyone else calls evidence which is mounting appreciably...
Your "Borg" if you actually think nothing was wrong.
Investigating themselves, isn't an investigation !
How can you call it evidence when you can't back it up with facts or reliable sources?
Really? NO record of any such trip is evidence Skirting the CoC [ph]
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And, here you are crying over this. Really?? Does the term "Crocodile tears" ring a bell?
I shed NOT ONE FUCKING TEAR for a politician....or anyone else in politics for that matter.......unlike Chucky Schumer, who cries all the time over "Illegal" people ! Nancy doesn't cry, 'cause she CAN'T. To many "Face Chemicals" don't ya know !
If it will make you happy, I can fake it for you !
Sooooo, you didn't say this,
Sounds like a case of whining to me, you want some cheese to go with it? You were ready everyday during Obama's time in office to impeach Obama without any evidence of any wrong doing on his part and, you have been one of the people on here yelling "Lock her up" with no evidence of wrong doing on the part of Hillary Clinton but, you want to whine about what is happening with Donald Trump and, his administration?? Puleeeeze.
That was a "Fact". Not some tear running down my face.
Do you need a wet rag to wipe your sweating forehead and upper lip ?
Calm down on this thread.
No, that is whining about your president getting caught, it was about the FACT that it has been proven that the Trump Administration is even more crooked than the Nixon Administration was.
Trump hasn't been caught about Shit !
What are you "Whining' about.
I'm fine....even with my posted words. "Shock and Awe" by others ?
Funny thing blogs, one can take the written word in a few ways, even though one is typing calmly.
Are you talking about conservatives? You know, the ones who STILL call Hillary guilty EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS CLEARED?
Sure .................
If you think Hillary is "Innocent" of Anything.....I gots a bridge I'll sell you in the middle of any dry Desert of your choice !
Waaaaaaay too many folks protecting those politicians that claim they do things for the sake of some humanity ! If they really did care about ALL, politicians wouldn't need to use the "Group name of choice here" in order to get elected.
Take it up with the gop in Congress and the FBI since they all cleared Clinton who has not held office for over five years...
YOU....and I should. They're Fucking Politicians JBB. You put all your trust in a "Snake Oil" salesman ?
I look at life and how "I"....."I".....have it better because of what "I"......"I".....am able to do when Big Gov. Backs the fuck off.
How 'bouts you ?
Ain't it funny how Pelosi praised Obama for giving folks 'bout 64 bucks of their own money back, but when Trump get's people able to keep a grand....it's just Crumbs ?
Politicians are SHIT JBB, no matter what side you choose to be on !
Hell, I luvs calling them all out when it's proven they've done us wrong.
The only ones I vote for are the ones that promise they will make my life easier for "ME" to do my own thing. NOT taking MORE my hard earned money is a start. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR SOMEONE THAT PROMISES THEY WILL GIVE ME SOMETHING EXTRA !
Then call out Trump, he's done plenty wrong since being elected.
Like What ?
Deregulation, letting us keep MORE of our own money, getting rid of Crap funded by tax payers......... How has Trump Hurt you ?
No, no, no....she was never cleared of anything, especially by Comey.
Coney did not clear Clinton nor did he say she was innocent. What he said is he could no find a prosecutor willing to take the chance of ending up like Seth Rich, Vince Foster or dozens of others that have crossed the Clinton's.
Do not derail to long ago. So, what about Trump's lawyer sneaking into Poland to conspire with Russians?
It is clear all the gop has is, "What about Clinton?". Whataboutism regarding Clinton is no excuse Trump...
Do not derail to long ago. So, what about Trump's lawyer sneaking into Poland to conspire with Russians?
It is clear all the gop has is, "What about Clinton?". Whataboutism regarding Clinton is no excuse Trump...
You And lib50 were the ones that brought up Clinton on this thread not me. I just showed you where you were wrong.
Are you saying Prague is in Poland. You could at the very least get some of your unproven rumors straight.
In what way did he sneak in, I thought it was a commercial flight? How did he conspire with some unnamed Russians??
Why did Cohen lie about sneaking into Prague to speak with Russian operatives? You tell us...
I think NOT, buddy, I was responding to the MANY references FROM REPUBLICANS HERE (from first posts!) to Hillary! Don't EVEN.
Let me see if I have this straight ....
.. Proof/evidence was found, yet it is still not known if the clandestine meeting was in August or September - that is some intense evidence right there!
Why leak this 'important' information? Does anyone question that? ....from not allowing anything to come forth to the press..... to ..... Ta Da (?) two source familiar with the matter...........
I have read multiple sources on the subject, and am still not convinced that this would be information Mueller would allow to be leaked - so 'if it is true' (which seems to be the general theme of multiple source, a big'ish 'if') I have a feeling heads will roll!
Perhaps now 'we' are close to the end of this scavenger hunt?
Do you really think we have all the information from MULTIPLE INVESTIGATIONS in different jurisdictions? We've seen a lot of indictments and guilty pleas and the circle gets closer to Trump with each one. GOP went batshit over Benghazi (which cost more than EVERY OTHER investigation), and that was after they all kept coming up with NOTHING. So spare us the hand-wringing here. This is a clusterfuck of fraud and obstruction, among god knows what else. But it'll all come out in the end. Wait til dems take the helm and Trump doesn't have his enabling protector squad to stop the truth from coming out.
No it doesn't.
Blah Blah, Yeah whatever ... one may see what one wants to see, that is up to each individual - not for me to judge .. I am simply pointing out the 'IF's' that are part of this 'evidence' provided in this seed!
Hehehe, I'd call Trump's personal lawyer pretty damn close. And they are FAR more worried about that than even Mueller. Know why? Because Trump can't pardon anybody in that part of the investigation. They are REALLY worried about it.
So what he went to Prague?
And as we all know, nothing happened. This is all a liberals dry wet dream.
He said he has never been to Prague .. so now 'if' there is 'evidence' of him going to Prague - he can never be trusted again
When one reads the article, it becomes apparent that the use of the strong word 'IF' is quite prominent for an article proclaiming to have evidence of a clandestine meeting! (just my observation, of course)
Hey mags ... hope today finds you and yours well!
It is time. If they have evidence on anything against Trump or his entourage put it out there or shut up. Enough!
Hi colour!
This cloak and dagger stuff is a written for TV special!
Closing comments so I can walk D-Dawg and so SP won't be shutting it down in my stead...
This article is re-opened for comments after being closed for a short interval for canine exercise...