‘Christian Nationalism’ Played Significant Role in 2016 U.S. Elections
Conservative Christianity played a far greater role in getting Donald Trump elected to the White House than other factors commonly put forward, says a report in the journal Sociology of Religion.
The study, titled “Make America Christian Again: Christian Nationalism and Voting for Donald Trump in the 2016 Presidential Election,” explores the key motivators that accounted for the Trump victory in November 2016.
Contrary to theories alleging racism, “Islamophobia,” sexism, xenophobia, or even economic disadvantage as the driving force behind Trump voters, a team of three researchers found that it was good, old-fashioned patriotism combined with sincere Christian belief that moved voters to reject Hillary Clinton and vote in Donald Trump.
People on the left have been so determined to paint Trump voters as white supremacists or xenophobic Neanderthals that they seem to have missed the core element fueling the 2016 electorate: a desire to reconnect with America’s Christian roots and the virtues that historically made the country great.
For many Americans, Trump was “a symbolic defense of the United States’ perceived Christian heritage,” declare Andrew L Whitehead, Samuel L Perry and Joseph O Baker in their report.
Trump-voters valued a return to U.S. Christian identity along with the appointment of Christian social conservatives to key administration positions ahead of almost anything else, the study contends.
While not entirely free from the politically correct and scientifically suspect presuppositions and language about Trump voters common in the mainstream milieu, the report found that greater adherence to Christian nationalism “was a robust predictor of voting for Trump,” even after controlling for other influences.
The report also takes pains to distinguish Christian nationalism from the more diluted category of “civil religion.”
Civil religion is only vaguely connected to Christianity, the reports states, while Christian nationalism employs overtly Christian language and imagery.
The authors occasionally extrapolate far beyond their actual data, such as when they claim that Christian Trump-voters adopt an “Old Testament” parallel between America and Israel that includes the maintenance of “cultural and blood purity, often through war, conquest, and separatism.” While this may apply to a small minority of Trump-voters, the study fails to demonstrate that it is true of anything approaching a majority.
Reading between the lines, in fact, one cannot help perceiving an animosity toward Trump-voters on the part of the study’s authors, which is unsurprising given their background. Nonetheless, their findings do reveal how central Christian faith is to a significant bloc of American voters, who for too long have seen that faith trampled upon and ridiculed.
As Breitbart News reported Saturday, an overt anti-Christian bias is so widespread among liberal elites that they are often completely unaware of it.
The case in point was a Friday essay in the New Yorker announcing that the arrival of Chick-fil-A restaurants in New York City “feels like an infiltration, in no small part because of its pervasive Christian traditionalism.”
The article by Dan Piepenbring, titled “Chick-fil-A’s Creepy Infiltration of New York City,” makes no effort to conceal the underlying concern of the author, namely the overt Christian faith of its owners.
As evidence of Chick-fil-A’s “creepiness,” Piepenbring notes that its corporate headquarters in Atlanta “is adorned with Bible verses and a statue of Jesus washing a disciple’s feet. Its stores close on Sundays.”
“The restaurant’s corporate purpose still begins with the words ‘to glorify God,’ and that proselytism thrums below the surface of the Fulton Street restaurant, which has the ersatz homespun ambiance of a megachurch,” the essay proclaims in what is evidently intended to be a frightening revelation.
While the left has consistently failed to tap into the deep Christian faith that animates a sizable portion of the American voting public, Mr. Trump—whatever his other failings—has not. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/16/study-christian-nationalism-played-significant-role-in-2016-u-s-elections/
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So basically, the scumbag in chief was put into office mostly by born again scumbags.
those 7 million obama supporters who voted for trump are too painful to think about huh?
your saying valerie jarret is a liar?
LOL
Prove it. One worders or one liners won't do. Show us what ya got.
that will never happen
White Christians have been a minority in the US for almost a year as society is beginning to move away from that strain of bronze age mythology. Do you feel persecuted yet because you are not the majority? Conservatives don't like the fact that other people and other religions have equal secular and religious rights that the conservatives don't don't agree with, but they'll just have to get over it because they are no longer the majority. Social conservatives cannot stand in the way of pragmatic progress and intelligence now.
I'm not scared because I didn't start the thread. I'm only adding facts to Heartland's outlandish claims.
And they're despicable, disgusting human beings.
ALL of them??
those that support trump....yes
And I include my family and former friends in that group
Yes, they are. Jesus would have opposed their conservative ideas.
Anyone who wants to ignore the US Constitution and try to remake the US as a white Christian homeland needs to be opposed at every level.
not so much as you think
did jesus tell his followers to hand over their weapons to the roman guards when he was being arrested? no. he told them to put them back in their place.
are you seriously going to make the assertion jesus supported abortion?
How can you logically claim to be a Christian and ignore what Jesus taught or opposed? That is hypocritical to the extreme.
The concept of atheism still doesn't sink into you because as a humanist I am not using god to further my objective. It is the conservative Christians who are citing the divine to further their objectives.
You are wrong on both counts.
Christians are taught to turn their swords into plowshares.
Isaiah 2:4
Jesus taught his followers to turn the other cheek.
Matthew 5:39
Who is trying to confiscate your guns?
Jesus never mentioned abortion, despite the fact that it was possible with natural herbs.
US law is based on Roman law and not the bible so religious commands cannot be forced by the state without violating both religious clauses in the 1st Amendment.
I am not saying that Jesus of the Bible did exist. I am saying that if you believe that Jesus did exist then Bible tells you how you should act. I should not need to tell you this because as a believer s you should already know it.
Why is it that conservative Christians would claim religious persecution if they were required to live by the teachings of the man that they claim to be the son of God and their savior?
bull shit.
the day you speak of has not happened just yet.
after god shows up to judge the nations we will have no need for war... that is when we will beat our swords into plowshares and our spears into pruning hooks. but not a single day before that.
Cheers
give it a shot... might be fun
I won a case against me after claiming what happened was gods will.
and I quote from my testimony on the stand.
"we did not treat that section of concrete any different than we treated the rest... that low spot must have been gods will."
the ruckus in court after I said that was hilarious... the case against me? failed. (also gods will) yes it was a fun day
ya don't build multimillion-dollar properties without a lawsuit here and there. cant please everyone yanno.
only twice was I actually "in court" / on the stand
that damn low spot and the time a concrete guy hit an electrician with a backhoe as if it was a baseball bat on wheels. that dude flew about 30ft
I used to make the opposing attorney pay me 400 bucks just to show up to a deposition and usually after my deposition they would forget about me "general contractor" and just go after the sub (that is why we make subs carry insurance
Those are both secular ideas. You do not need to be a member of a religion to support them.
Where do you get this nonsense?
Do you have any idea what the strict separation of church and state means because that statement by you proves that you don't have a clue?
What sane or ethical person would be friends with someone who voted for a racist, an Islamophobe, a misogynist, a homophobe, a xenophobe and a wannabe dictator with unnaturally orange skin who panders to bigoted theocrats?
Because society was just so fantastically secular a few thousand years ago?
seriously.. you crack me up
Obama's Presidency is the reason. During his term the nasty progressive came out of the shadows. Race baiting, anti-police rhetoric, hatred for America and it's influence and power. Obama administration openly used the IRS to silence political opponents, wire tapping journalist, shielding corruption within his state department. Abuse of power within his Presidency has no match.
The toxic progressives have been slithering back into the shadows....reluctantly though. Screaming at the sky and stomping their feet.
And, that's a fact, Sunshine.
skirting the CoC [ph]
Empty minds are already a waste. That's why it's so hard to carry on conversations with conservatives who ridicule higher education, believe their bible is scientific fact, and reject the vast majority of climate scientists conclusions when it comes to mans effect on climate change. The empty space between their ears can't absorb anything of substance, just hot air and inherited pointless prejudices.
How badly were you traumatized by saying Mr. President to an educated black man?
Do you have examples of this race baiting? The only racists I see are members of the TEAparty and the Alt-Right supporters of Trump.
A sane person opposes police abuse instead of supporting it. Unless the police abuse is your ways of keeping minorities in line because you feel threatened when others have equal rights?
Do you have any examples of this?
The TEA Party were not qualified for those tax benefits because they aren't charities. The IRS also targeted liberal groups but that doesn't support your persecution complex.
What journalist was wiretapped?
How much longer are you going to chase this nonsense? Darrell Issa is retiring because of his part in that idiocy. Maybe Hillary is hiding her server farm in the Whitewater land.
Despite 8 years of mindless TEAbag investigations you still managed to find bupkis evidence of this claim.
yes folks this was actually said.
Reasoning with idealogues is futile.
Where is your race baiting?
at the tip of your fingers....not surprised you don't even acknowledge it.
You are all going to have a nasty wake-up some day when Christian Nationalism does take over, because they'll decide who is worthy or not worthy to be a citizen.
Think of the word "nationalism" and where you've heard it before.
Never happen. They'll be way too busy going to funerals. The closed casket kind.
Well, if this is true, it makes it very clear that their so-called morals never meant a damn thing to them in the first place.
I think morality is one of those words they've never had a complete definition for
By now, we can all see that quite clearly.
Conservative Christian morality is Josh Duggar, the Alt-Right, and Roy Moore.
Fascism: noun - a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
Christian nationalism is just another term for Christian fascism. They forced in their chosen dictator that they've said they'd continue to support even if he shot someone in the street. They continue their support for him after half a dozen of his campaign team have either been indicted or plead guilty, he has been accused of sexual assault by at least 19 credible women, it's been found out he paid one woman $150,000 to keep quiet about one of his adulterous affairs, another woman was paid $130,000 for the same, he's been caught in over 2400 lies so far, he admitted to firing an FBI director because of an investigation into himself and his team, he's had more chaotic turn over in his administration than any previous administration in history, he's insulted and demeaned at least two gold star families, he was against any military action in Syria without congressional approval when President Obama was in office but now has attacked them twice without approval, he supported an accused child molester for Senate, his personal lawyer is now under investigation for bank fraud and election fraud, he keeps contradicting his own administration when they announce sanctions against Russia delaying implementation for no apparent reason, he's started childish irresponsible twitter wars with crazy unstable foreign leaders, the list of this incompetent Presidents mistakes and bumbling of foreign policy goes on and on and on yet his Christian fascist supporters never waver as good little fascists do because they don't care about the rule of law, they only care about creating a neo-conservative fascist State that recognizes them as supposedly "superior" Americans based on their faith and nationality.
Don't look now, but your pants are on fire.
So would you have said the same when a certain populist won the German federal election in March of 1933?
First they came for the Bernie Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Bernie Socialist.
Then they came for the Unions, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Union member.
Then they came for the liberals, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a liberal.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Updated altered quote based on quote by Martin Niemoller.
Oh? Please do try and dispute anything in my comment, or are childish insults all you have left?
Really? You cons whined for 8 years when Obama was president. Do you have any tissues left? I doubt it. But watching fox news when Obama won? Priceless.. LOL
The majority of Americans, those who voted against the orange clown, felt as if they had been kicked in the nuts that day. They felt sick to their stomachs. But Trump supporters are so detached from America not only will they march around with confederate flags and swastikas as they did in Charlottesville, they didn't feel anything but jubilation at watching other Americans get kicked in the nuts. It was as if they were watching a Funniest Home Videos or Fail Army montage of nuts getting wrecked, from baseball bats, soccer balls to skate boards landing on metal hand rails, it was beyond hilarious for some. Sure, our nation will likely need some reconstructive surgery now that it's oval office has been crunched beyond recognition, but all the Nazis, KKK members, white supremacists, white nationalists and fascists who support him are tickled pink at the damage he's doing to our nation.
Yes, it's a sad day when the Nazis and white supremacists feel like they've won. Don't worry, it won't last. American is better than this and better than the bigots and deplorable's who elected this farce into office.
Do you dispute that the majority, if not all, of the tiki torch wielding, swastika flag and confederate flag waving Nazis, KKK, white supremacist chanting "Jews will not replace us!" are Trump supporters? Do you not believe they are celebrating right along side you, both of you championing Donald Trump as some sort of hero? Don't you ever ask yourself "Why?", why are the racists and anti-Semites attracted to your party? Why does the Republican platform attract them? And why are Republicans hesitant to forcefully denounce such ignorant belief?
I didn't ask you to control other peoples votes. I simply asked if you've ever wondered or been curious about why that group of Americans were so attracted to your party and their platform. If you say "It's the tax cuts and conservative fiscal values" it would be an answer, but is that really why neo-Nazis gravitate to Trump and the Republicans? Might it not also be the fact that the Republican party is the least diverse, tends to exclude minorities from positions of power and is often reluctant or refuses altogether to reject the blatant racism and anti-Semitism that a wing of their base promote? Once that fact is recognized, why not be more vocal within your own party to reject the racists, to vociferously condemn their bigotry and prejudice and attempt to change the Republican party platform that seems to attract them like bears to honey. Or do you not wish to risk losing supporters or votes by rejecting them knowing that Trump only narrowly won because of their support?
personally, I was happy to participate in the kicking of those nuts.
Cheers
they felt as if they got kicked right square in the labia
Cheers
I remember laughing after obama got elected because I knew what a few yrs of liberal progressive rule would do the left.
the one problem with using identity politics is eventually it pisses off the people in your own party. (alynsky was an idiot)
all 7 million obama supporters who voted for trump cannot be wrong
using identity poltics only works once or twice. when one keeps going endlessly, eventually they start cutting their own herd
(alynsky was an idiot)
we have already done that...
btw, it is no longer up for debate either.
If you're a white Protestant, you can go ahead and be complacent....unless the Christian Nationalists don't care for your particular brand of Protestantism...
not even close... too funny.
no worries, the real patriots will strip them of about 1000 seats in govt across the land before we send them packing with ass in hand. just like we did to the liberal progressives leading up to and in 2016.
extremists, either left or right, will not be tolerated
or wait... was I supposed to be scared? = try again
The Real Patriots?
Are you telling me, an AF Veteran, that I'm not a Real Patriot? I'll stand my Real Patriotism up against yours any day, pal
extremists, either left or right, will not be tolerated
I do believe that YOU WILL tolerate the extreme right. I haven't seen any proof yet that you won't. As long as you get what you want in the short term*, you won't give a flying fuck about anyone else.
*be careful what you wish for
that and a dollar might buy you a cup of coffee. (read not impressed)
so from one vet to another... I can only say "thanks for your service.
Cheers
I'm also an Air Force veteran. Comment removed for CoC violation [ph]
Don't ever question my patriotism again. As far as the "asinine" things I say...that's a matter of YOUR opinion. You're not going to try and shut me up, now are, Mr I-Am-A-Great-American?
I'm not impressed with you, either, am I supposed to be?
thanks for your service.
what other people think of me is none of my business.
but it is the site admins business once you type it (hint)
Cheers
same for the things you say about others.
Cheers
are you accusing me of a CoC violation? Then flag it and report it, don't drop little fucking hints. I don't play stupid games
but it is the site admins business once you type i
that goes for you, too
now I get it. when you said....
that means only you can question the patriotism of others?
here is a hint.
when I said...
I just built a box,, you climbed into it on your own.
when I imply your on drugs?
you let me know and I will delete it myself
no games... just good fun from me
the personal attacks? I leave to you.
Cheers
The most true thing I have read all day. I have seen people on the right throw their so called morals out the window in order to achieve what they want. It is all about their goals and their goals only. Achieve them at any cost. Working well with others is not in their lexicon.
Notice it is always their country, their rights, their patriotism.
try "our country" the left is only on time out.
why?
liberal progressive BS is not patriotism
patriots do not sell out their country for cheap crap made in china.
when the left supports secure borders fair trade deals and a sovereign country? they can be patriots again.
remember that democrat named lamb that won recently? he supported trumps trade plans and hates the likes of pelosi/
that my friend is the new lefts future
I rekon it will take another election cycle or two before they fully grasp reality
I didn't attack you, But if your little feelers got hurt, be sure and flag it,mmmKay!
Exactly!
Fuck everybody else. They got theirs
seriously,,, you are not that important.
but enjoy the thought otherwise
You mean other than the Trumps...right?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your problem is.... we elected trump to fix that cheap crap from china problem... and he is doing just that.
as president, trump is currently bringing production back to our country. meaning.. china can fuk off.
if trump, or if we loved crap from china as much as you imply? trump would never have been elected.
there is no way to restart production in our country without a trade war with china... and they are going to lose that war... MADE IN THE USA tags will become common again.
are you against americans earning a living wage from that increased production?
or do you only support a living wage for people who are serving fries with that order?
Cheers
Make it start with Ivanka's crap
I don't have a problem.
He and his daughter have stopped manufacturing in China? No, they havent.
Granted, that was a bit before the so called trade war with China. That would have a whole lot more impact if Trump and their companies stopped manufacturing overseas immediately. That they haven't should tell you...its ok for them.
Sure...maybe he will get there, but I'm not holding my breath.
That's debatable.
That's just so much convenient BS. If we wanted to manufacture here, there is nothing at all stopping that from happening.
Two ridiculously absurd questions. I am all for Americans earning a living wage. The fact remains that wages have not kept up with costs. Housing is ridiculously expensive and no those people who serve fries don't make enough to put themselves through school let alone rent an apartment.
starting with everyones crap is a better plan.
get your cheap crap from china while ya can...
china's production is going to hit a recession soon enough
Cheers
it is still ok for everyone... LOL
when it becomes too expensive to produce in china everyone will stop... even trump and ivanka.
(as if things of that magnitude can or will change overnight.)
you crack me up
ten yrs from now ivankas products will say made in the USA. as will a lot of peoples products
That's good enough for you? The idea (that's all it is right now) that the Trumps will bring their products back??? If he really intends to do that, what is the excuse for not having done it all along?
Here's a clue....he isn't ever going to bring his products back, neither is Ivanka.
Trump's merchandising empire has collapsed because his words and actions have tainted the brand.
So, you don't feel that people like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Ben Franklin were patriots. Got it.
How many other American presidents were forced to write a 25 million dollar check to reimburse former students because of a fraudulent university?
I would wish for better but I am a realist.
will we see gains before ten yrs from now? of course.
I'm just saying in ten yrs things are going to be very, very different.
one cannot stop a 60yr economic plan on a dime. it will take time for investors to react and the money to move around.
relax... the trade war has not even started yet.
That isn't the way the trend is going. We will continue to lose manufacturing jobs world wide to technology. That's the reality.
unless we start manufacturing that so-called worldwide technology
do you take issue with the USA cashing in on that production? with jobs and living wages?
why should we just forfeit that "worldwide technology production to other countries?
what gives? does worldwide technology production just spring forth from a unicorns ass or what?
mr roboto = made in the USA (sounds awesome
how many of obamas presidential paychecks did obama just give to our country?
that was rhetorical... we already know the answer.
Cheers
I am talking about technology that will replace workers.
Obama didn't cut taxes to benefit him and his rich cronies. I wonder how much of a tax break Trump gave himself.
Not only himself, but, all his family members and his club of Good 'ol Boys who pander to him and feed his delicate ego.
And when the prices of things that the American people have been easily able to afford are no longer affordable, or even available, due to Trumps trade war.
Also, while the Congress may be the one who oK'd the tax hike, it was Trump who told them to do so. And why wouldn't they obey his demand, they all most likely got a huge tax break themselves. So your argument holds not water. There is no such thing as 'free money', the price must be paid somewhere, somehow, and it is rarely worth it to the ones who can least afford it.
Pretty huge apparently:
Good for you...I am sure that those who are lessor fortunate than you will dance and cheer for you while their own life is made even more miserable.
It's sort of like the old saying..."I've got mine, to Hell with you" type of thing. You and Trump and his Good 'ol Boys are in the same class.
Oh please......if you are going to bother commenting to me, at least try to make some sense. Your nonsense is boring and you just like to see your own words in print.
Of one thing I'm certain, we can't let Christian Nationalism get any bigger than it is right now. They'll hunt down the non-believers like us, take away our rights, and herd us into FEMA camps
I've found that when they coming knocking on my door if I answer it in the nude they run away. True story. And the time a DNC rep came to my house trying to secure a vote for Hillaryious Hillary ran off like the pussy liberal he was when posed with questions about the hag that he couldn't answer.
BS
awe cute. have a penis envy do you? Seems like that is all you like to refer to.
Well, you all were a scairt of FEMA camps when Obama was in office. Just thought I'd use the same psychology on you
She does make reference to it a lot.
It offends magnolia.
We were? We were more concerned he would sell us out to Iran to get his little "deal"...which he proceeded to do.
riiiiggggghhhhhtttttt
Every day there was something new about FEMA camps. Don't deny it.
im not a "christian nationalist" as you define one.
but I am curious...
"Contrary to theories alleging racism, “Islamophobia,” sexism, xenophobia, or even economic disadvantage as the driving force behind Trump voters, a team of three researchers found that it was good, old-fashioned patriotism combined with sincere Christian belief that moved voters to reject Hillary Clinton and vote in Donald Trump."
So it wasn't their Islamaphobia, xenophobia or their sexism that the average Trump voter had in common, it was their homophobia that bound them in a religious brotherhood of prejudice. The other phobias were just icing on the non-gay wedding cake...
Patriotism? Patriotism?
Bigots and racists are not patriots
No DP, it was none of them, as you well know and won't admit.
I believe he's an AF Vet. I saw many extreme righties in the AF. It was downright scary at times. We moderate liberals kept the whole USAF balanced and sane
I'm sorry, but you are not a moderate liberal. That's just an observation and not a criticism.
Oh, please...tell me what I really am.
You don't know me and don't pretend that you do. Now, I'm dropping this before I get that 4th COC that gets me suspended. I've pretty much had it with you and several others today.
That is their favorite line.....like they know every little thing about people here by personal relationship. But, turn the tables and they go ballistic.
Christians aren't going anywhere. but to the polls to vote. We are even scaring NYC with the new Chick Filet there. At least that's what some liberals in NYC are saying. I read that on MSN.
White Christians are no longer the majority in the US, so they cannot force theior religious belifs on others at the polls, even if you ignore the strict seperation of church and state. This idea is precisely why state and religion are to be kept absolutely seperate to prevent an abusive conservtive theocracy.
The idea that 8.5 million people are scared of bad fast food is hilarious. With all of the food options, available in the boroughs of NYC and people eat that dreck is a sign of low intelligence.
You do not ignore people who support revisionist history and who believe that they have a sacred mandate to enforce their violent religious agenda.
You lost Alabama, one of the reddest states in the country.... That alone speaks volumes.
39 actually, but who's counting.. LOL
Did you forget about opposition to the Civil Rights Act, Family Values conservatism, Blue laws and DOMA?
yepp... we just forced trump on others at the polls... LOL
wait for our next act. it is a doozy
Those who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act were conservative Christians. The same strain of conservative Christians supported DOMA laws.
Blue laws are the state endorsement of religious ideas and yes they were supported by conservatives.
Is Donald Trump a Christian?
Wow! Now that is really funny. Untrue, but, funny.
You, and that mouse in your pocket that stands for your 'we' you use so freely, are living in a fantasy world. However, if you feed that mouse enough garbage it will always side with you no matter how crazy your dreams are.
Ummm no, you may call yourselves Christians, you may even attend church every Sunday but, by your actions you have shown that you aren't Christians.
Yep. It sounds like these Christian Nationalists want the US to be more like Saudi Arabia and a lot less like America.
I don't know how many of the northern Republicans who voted for the CRA were "conservative Christians" but it's pretty much a guarantee that every southerner who voted against it was a conservative Christian regardless of their party.
And no surprise at all that every southern Republican voted against it.
True, but not all were conservative Christians (which is the issue here), nor were any of the ones who voted for the CRA members of conservative extremist cults like the Southern Baptists.
And it's very revealing that no southern Republican and no southern conservative voted for the CRA......it seems the switch in party affiliation for racist southern conservatives had already started.
It just means that some of the racist southern conservatives had already started to shift to the GOP. It's why there were no southern GOP votes whatsoever for the CRA.
It's also why the Tennessee GOP just voted to retaliate against the city of Memphis for removing confederate statues which were erected to honor racists and help enforce Jim Crow. That kind of racism is quite typical for the GOP today.
We've had that discussion before. The point was that the two parties have swapped ideological positions on race and other civil rights issues. That's why today it's only the Dems who support equal rights for all as a core platform issue, whereas the GOP platform specifically opposes equal civil rights for certain disfavored minorities.
It's why today only the GOP retaliates against cities which remove the symbols of white supremacy. It's also why it's only red states which have been passing "voter ID" laws which are designed to restrict the voting rights of certain minorities, and it's why the courts have repeatedly found unconstitutional racist intent behind the passage of such laws as well as the passage of GOP-controlled redistricting. Heck, even here in Wisconsin the Republican AG inadvertently admitted that our GOP Senator wouldn't have been elected without the GOP's racist efforts at voter suppression.
What's that bigot chicken like anyway? I've never even tried it...
Conservative Christians voted for a guy that has absolutely no morals at all regarding his 3 marriages. Sounds to me like these people threw Jesus under the bus. Conservative Christians have absolutely lost the right to claim the moral high ground. Sickening.
There are not enough Evangelicals in the country to win a national election on their own. Saying that Trump won because Evangelicals voted for him in large numbers is the same thing as saying Obama won because blacks voted for him in large numbers.
Donald trump has never been over 50% and he wasnt on election day in 2016 either. In other words, his supporters in general are a minority. When you pare it down to evangelical Trump supporters you are talking about an even smaller minority of the American people. When they get a candidate over 50% in a national election they will have something to talk about.
The seeder is one of those who has become deluded by the bird brained conservative news sources they cling to 24/7.
I wonder how many Americans may be just a bit dismayed at this portrayal of what "Christian Nationalists" or what some dictionaries call "Christian Dominionists" want our wonderful country to look like under their rule. For those who call themselves Christians, is this the Christianity that Jesus wanted you to follow?
From Michelle Goldberg....Kingdom Coming....2006
Christian nationalists believe in a revisionist history, which holds that the founders were devout Christians who never intended to create a secular republic; separation of church and state, according to this history, is a fraud perpetrated by God-hating subversives. One of the foremost Christian revisionist historians is David Barton, who, in addition to running an organization called Wallbuilders that disseminates Christian nationalist books, tracts and videos, is also the vice-chairman of the Texas Republican Party. The goal of Christian nationalist politics is the restoration of the imagined Christian nation. As George Grant, former executive director of D. James Kennedy's influential Coral Ridge Ministries, wrote in his book "The Changing of the Guard:"
"Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ -- to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness.
But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice.
It is dominion we are after. Not just influence.
It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time.
It is dominion we are after.
World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish."
In the Christian nationalist vision of America, non-believers would be free to worship as they choose, as long as they know their place. When Venkatachalapathi Samuldrala became the first Hindu priest to offer an invocation before Congress, the Family Research Council issued a furious statement that reveals much about the America they'd like to create:
"While it is true that the United States of America was founded on the sacred principle of religious freedom for all, that liberty was never intended to exalt other religions to the level that Christianity holds in our country's heritage...Our founders expected that Christianity -- and no other religion -- would receive support from the government as long as that support did not violate peoples' consciences and their right to worship. They would have found utterly incredible the idea that all religions, including paganism, be treated with equal deference."
The iconography of Christian nationalism conflates the cross and the flag. As I write in "Kingdom Coming," it "claims supernatural sanction for its campaign of national renewal and speaks rapturously about vanquishing the millions of Americans who would stand in its way." At one rally at the statehouse in Austin, Texas, a banner pictured a fierce eagle perched upon a bloody cross. For a liberal, such imagery smacks of fascist agitprop. But plenty of deeply committed Christians also object to it as a form of blasphemy. It's important, I think, to separate their faith from the authoritarian impulses of the Christian nationalist movement. Christianity is a religion. Christian nationalism is a political program, and there is nothing sacred about it.
I'm not going to attempt to talk for others. As for myself, religion played absolutely no part on who I voted for. The candidates and their histories played a very big part in who I voted for.
Much of the nonsense being spewed here is just more ploys to push a BS progressive narrative some folks apparently feel the need to push. Talk about fundamentalism.
Christian Nationalist takeover? Who came up with that shit? The reality is the really bad ones are few and far between and not a worry in the least for "taking over" this country. Whatever the hell that means. And if they really tried, i mean really tried not some messed up progressive definition of tried, they'd get their asses kicked just like the crackpots on the far left would who might try to impinge on our liberties in their own way.
FEMA camps? Who's gonna make that happen? Not our military that's for sure. Not the one i know of and if the feds and cops tried to do it (which i doubt most would) they'd get their asses kicked as well. FEMA camps ..... what a joke.
I'll tell you who's time is up. It's all the radical pricks on the far left and far right. Like the pussies who make physical threats to whole groups of people here on NT and the pricks who vote that shit up. The majority of us in the middle are tired of your fucked up narratives. That's how Trump really won. People in the middle are tired of the fundamentalist crackpottery being pushed by both sides.
You time is up .... tick tock, tick tock ......
I agree with most of what you said here. Being a moderate, I am tired of all the division. Whether that is what lead to Trump winning or not is up for discussion (but I'll pass on that). But what I am fairly sure of is that we would have still been this fractured had Hillary won. It's hard for me to understand given that our fringe called her a Republican.
But Hillary is more of a centrist than is Trump. I would have preferred her to him. I have never liked the man.
I think we have to go through this though in order to become stronger as a united country. Time will tell.
yes and no, I think Hillary really thought she had it won no matter what. Among others things it made no political sense when she was honest about her feelings and called nearly half of America deplorables. Make no mistake, I think she really believes that and it hurt her bad .... as it should have honestly. Very karmic IMO.
Just about anyone else could have run and beat Trump. I still can’t believe he won the primary in the first place. Both are a testament of how bad things are screwed up in our system.
Trump called many different groups all kinds of names and it didn't really hurt him as it should have. Mexicans as rapists and murderers...that's the same kind of BS rhetoric. I don't think that deplorables comment is what cost her....not that it matters at this juncture.
We are stuck with a horrible Potus and a lousy and corrupt cabinet.
There is a reason for that. Most Americans aren't stupid like many progressive here like to intimate. Not in the least.
And did you feel that all of the Obama administration was up front and honest?
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
oh good grief
What a horrible way to live...can you imagine living with the paranoids?
Fascism is already here.
One of it's forms is unemployed, still lives in mom's basement, dresses in black hoodies and face masks, only comes out in summer because it's cold in the winter, uses bike locks as weapon of choice, operates under the guise of fighting that which they really are and prefers the sneak or gang attack since like most fascists ...... they are really pussies ....
I think fascism already came in the form of car czars and auto and bank bailouts. With fascism the taxpayer gets stuck coving the losses of failed businesses.
Christians? I thought the reason President Trump won was because Hillaryious Hillary was a horrible candidate.
Her loss does explain the butt hurt of so many though. They were so self-righteously smug in their confidence that she would win.
Now all there hopes are riding on a whore "victim", that he had sex with years ago.