Poll: 59% fear violence from Trump haters, 31% predict civil war
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The division in the United States that has escalated into the organized harassment of presidential aides has six in 10 worried about the violence from anti-Trump advocates and nearly a third fearing it will end in civil war.
The latest survey from Rasmussen Reports found that 59 percent of all voters “are concerned that those opposed to President Trump’s policies will resort to violence.”
And, added Rasmussen, 31 percent believe “it’s likely that the United States will experience a second civil war sometime in the next five years.”
The new polling evidence of fear in the country over political division follows the harassment of three top Trump aides, including spokeswoman Sarah Sanders, ordered out of a southern Virginia restaurant , and senior adviser Stephen Miller whose condo drew protests from liberals.
It also follows a call by liberal California Rep. Maxine Waters to bring pressure to Trump officials when in public and urgings from legal experts for Trump aides to apply for concealed carry permits and buy guns.
In its analysis of the new survey, Rasmussen highlighted who is most concerned about violence
Most voters across the partisan spectrum are concerned about political violence from those opposed to Trump’s policies, although Republicans are the most likely to be Very Concerned. The level of concern is about the same among Republicans, Democrats and unaffiliated voters when it comes to the threat of violence from those critical of the media’s coverage of Trump.
Women and those under 40 are more worried about a possible civil war than men and older voters are.
Forty-four percent (44%) of blacks think a second civil war is likely in the next five years, a view shared by 28% of whites and 36% of other minority voters. Whites are also less concerned about political violence than the others are.
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Oh great.....another "blame the left only" article.
I noticed an obvious slant in it too. I've seen this story from another source and it was much more objectively written.
This is a good example of why those on the left have reached their limit. So many on the right lie and twist the truth that they make it impossible for others to veiw them as anything other than the enemy.
Mr. Trump is a mirror reflection of who they are as human beings and that is why they flock to him and worship him. They see the same bigotry and racism in him that they embrace in themselves.
Um.....nothing. I'm hoping for the outcome the article suggests. I've always been very clear about that. The country needs another civil war.
My objection is that it's solely the left's fault that the country has reached this breaking point.
I'm sorry to say that I disagree. The time for reconciling and finding common ground is over. Most on the right refuse to work with anyone on the left. It's time for a civil war.
My comment was not a sweeping generlization. This place has turned into a bunch of cry babies.
It's clear that this site cannot handle different opinions other than those on the right. Extremely disappointing performance by the moderators.
If you don't want anyone on this site that has a different opinion just say it.
That's for damn sure, PJ, I don't call it 'Newsnowflakes' fer nuttin!
Not nearly as bad as: "have some censorship with your Newswhine" got in the end. Not even close.
That place was a rotting train wreck the last few years.
Careful what you wish for PJ it might come true, and if it ever did, I doubt the party that is for gun restrictions would win.
Why not? We kicked the shit out of the racist goobers last time.
"My objection is that it's solely the left's fault that the country has reached this breaking point."
I find that objectionable as well, but we have to confront reality.
Are the "racist googers" you are talking about the racist democrats that are responsible for Jim Crowe and who founded the KKK, and opposed the civil rights act of 1964?
I am sure you aren't talking about the party that was founded in 1854 as an anti-slavery party, (assuming you have any clue of US history).
The 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery; the 14th Amendment, which gave blacks citizenship; and the 15th Amendment, which gave blacks the vote, only passed because of universal Republican support.
I agree, It is sad that the Democrats, from a standpoint of racism, have always been on the wrong side of history. (again assuming you have any clue of US history)
it was the left who started this BS so why should they not carry the blame?
the right did not try to "fundamentally change this country"
should we just let the left re-write our country? NOT A CHANCE
the left has started this fight by trying to force change of our country on us. and now the left will reap what they have sown.
my best advice? bail on the left while there is still time...
claim independent status and you will no longer have to shoulder the blame for the actions of the left.
Are you threatening me 96?
First, you assume that those who believe in smart gun control don't know how to use them. You'd be making a huge mistake. PLUS - the typical trump cult follower are OLD white peeps.
I think someone has shaken you too many times......
not the first time you'd be wrong about something and not the last either.
I am unbreakable. many have tried and everyone has failed.
Cheers
no need for me to try again later... you will figure it out someday
cheers
Would appear to me as though the article is representative of all that are concerned about violence on some level or another … I could be wrong, but are not both sides leery of the other?
Perhaps I am just not seeing the blame aspect of the article - yet it is a bit difficult to deny that those leaning left have been far more vocal in regards to protesting the current administration .. which is what the poll is all about (?) the current administration and those that fear violence because of it?
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I did find this interesting .. yet as an individuals that once did polling for Ross Perot [back in the old days] polls can be made to represent exactly what one wants them to represent - yet the percentages of blacks and other minorities seem rather high... I question the accuracy
I actually agree. Polls can be made to slant or push a narrative. I mean if a question was, when do you think a civil war will happen, 1-5 yrs, 5-10 yrs, one is still voting for a civil war.
Not that this poll did this, just an example.
As far as the narrative being pushed, the way I see it, one side keeps being berated constantly. Being called evil, morons etc. Eventually people will tire of it and fight back.
To blame one side is being disingenuous as I could easily blame the leader in chief for a lot of the division.
Yet one side really did vote for an evil moron in 2016.
And they listen to him and do what he says. Look at his rally where they were heckling and being hostile to the CNN news crew that was there.
And fortunately for us, she came in second!
Good thing they lost.
I try not to 'play' the blame game - appears that there is plenty to go around … seems to me that the "leader in chief" [whoever they may be] always creates divisiveness, as there is always a group that will never agree .. the division of this nation started at least 10 years ago .. most likely closer to 20 years ago that compromise really started to leave government, and that is the only thing that makes government function as a whole … "We the People" followed suit with our own lack of compromise ...
I probably sound like a broken record - but I really believe that if Biden had tossed his hat in the ring as a one term in 2016 .. the nation would be having a chance to heal a wee bit, and perhaps, just maybe, the extreme side of both parties would not be in control as much as they seem to be now..
Just my thoughts Ender
Agree about Biden. I don't blame him though, after the loss of his son.
Edit: I posted an article a while back about the parties. I thought this was an interesting take.
Very interesting take Ender .. the embedded link is also very interesting..
I always keep hearing that I am wasting my vote when I refuse to choose the lesser of 2 evils for President and vote 'none of the above' - a viable 3rd party would be a bonus .. perhaps then those that claim to be independent would actually come together and vote... (?)
"The latest survey from Rasmussen Reports found that 59 percent of all voters “are concerned that those opposed to President Trump’s policies will resort to violence.”
Hell, I thought that had been occurring since January 20, 2017.
With good reason...considering the threats coming from the media, death threats from Hollywood, Antifa riots, harassment to Trump's family and his staff. Publicly threatening his young son. Attempted assassination of Congressional members. Remember that asshole who started yelling at Ivanka on the plane, with her children there. Get a grip people.
The underlying hatred has been going on since Trump announced his run and has progressed into full view. Nothing has worked...the Russian collusion is a joke, and all other attempts to smear Trump have failed miserably. People who feel desperate will resort to violence.
Smear Trump? lol. His personal and political history speaks for itself. His words and actions smear him. People who think Trump is being "smeared" are among the most delusional people on this planet.
the point escaped you
I have noticed, as I am sure that other people here have also, that many of you have nothing to say once you have exhausted your one or two lines of rote responses. Fair enough.
Would that include the pre-canned standard response you use whenever President Trump is mentioned?
When you can muster up the energy to make an actual response I will look at it.
The country is not going to be able to withstand having a pathological liar and extreme psychologically disturbed narcissist in it's highest office and seat of power for 8 years. The idea that Trump is no different in that regard from Obama or Clinton is complete nonsense to the degree that it comprises a pathological lie in itself. Trump is vastly in his own class as a liar and a psychologically disturbed president. He is also a conman, and extremely corrupt crook. These are things that are not even debatable. The question is, what will they lead to?
There is a stress on the social fabric of the country that is created by that circumstance that could lead to violence.
What is much more likely though, initially, is that Trumpism and its effects on the policies of the country will lead to mass protests in the streets. And this is really what Maxine Waters is calling for. I dont think many people pay a lot of attention to Maxine Waters, who is essentially a tv personality, and someone used as a punching bag by right wing media, but Trumpism and it's policies could very easily lead to mass protests , and by mass I am talking about millions of people in the streets relatively often to protest Trump and his policies. I think we are pretty close to that happening. If Trump nominates someone who has pledged to oppose abortion to the supreme court I think we will see a street protest that will be in the millions (for a start). As these protests become more common the potential for violence will increase, and frankly, people will get used to it.
There is a FACT about this country that very few people ever talk about. The country is changing irrevocably, possibly permanently , to a multicultural more socially tolerant country. Young people overwhelmingly reject the traditional white men run things mentality. Young WHITE people reject it too, which means that soon enough the country WILL be much more liberal, and run by liberals. If it is in 5 years or 10 years or 20 years simply depends on how much the Democrats or other progressives are able to organize and motivate their voting blocs.
Trumpism has NO chance whatsoever of being a lasting governing theme in the United States of America, the demographics are completely against it. Trumpism is a dying gasp, not a portent. But it can do great damage to peoples lives in the meantime.
Violence? Its possible as an outflow from the mass protests that are likely to happen. If it happens it happens.
Trump has no more business being president than a name randomly pulled from a phone book. Everyone in this country knows that in their heart, and that has led to extreme social dysfunction in the way people from opposing sides relate and interact. Once he is gone one way or the other, we can move back to better inter political ideology relations.
Well, he's going to be leading and driving you crazy for the next 6 and half years, then it will be Nikki Haley's turn. You could just ignore what he says and does, but then there would be no meaning in your life. Right??
Phew! It sure is a good thing Hillary didn't win then isnt it?
LMFAO!!! You mean 8 MORE years?????
He had no chance of becoming president either. Gee as more of his policies work and the country is at record low unemployment especially among minorities and we are talking to NK for the first time in decades the left has decided they need to resort to violence again. Nothing is working we need a civil war. How ironic from the party of gun control.
Prepping is something I’ve been neglecting to do. Even in the event of a natural disaster I’m poorly prepared. I think I’ll elevate that on my list of priorities.
I wouldn't be overly concerned about the civil war angle if it comes to that which i highly doubt. Many of the little turds causing the problem will give up quickly when they get hungry and Mom calls them back to their basement hovel for spaghetti o's and toast with the crust cut off.
The few who might actually have some tactical prowess will be quickly outnumbered, outclassed and completely undone. I just hope they aren't ignorant enough to think they will fix or improve anything they have twisted up in their scrambled little brains by starting something like that but they just might be. You never know. A lot of dumbasses out there these days.
Gee I thought all the liberals died or left America when trump took over. So who's left to fight ?
O wait the last presidential vote was pretty close maybe I'm wrong.
Ignore half the country at all of our peril. Why not ? What have we to lose ?
Good Luck America !
Some just haven't been able to accept the results of an election....it was rigged and blah blah blah on they go, this is quite evident. Even the losing candidate can not stop bawling and blaming others rather than herself to this day.
The frustration is hitting an all time high.
America will survive....we are strong through difficult times...hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
True, But I see it from both sides some people just cannot move on. Yes trump is president, he won the electoral college the election is over. What is ridiculous is many people really want to ignore just how close the election really was and instead would like to believe all the dems, libs, and progressives now are dead or gone, sorry that’s not the case. Ignoring half the countries desires seems dangerous to me for the long term good of the country.
Close or not, the rule of law in the United States prevailed and he is President, end of story until the next person is elected, within the rule of law. Margin does not matter. He is the President. The rest is just hyperbole.
But you have to admit that he doesn't have the support of at least half the country. His support numbers are far lower than President Obama's were.
It also means that he lacks legitimacy with the majority of the population.
I wish Trump could grasp the concept and start acting like a president instead of a petulant child.
Big deal half of the country doesn't respect or want your president. You are going to have much opposition if you dont consider the wants and thoughts and feelings of the whole.
actually I'd say we are safer if he doesn't. If and when he decides to "romance or sway" the masses, we could all be in real trouble as a democracy .... forever.
nothing would allow us to clean up our liberal problem any faster than that,
careful what you wish for.
I don't see any actual civil war happening. The country is not divided geographically enough for that to happen. Are leftist separatists going to shuttle back and forth over enemy territory or attach themselves to Canada??
More likely if there is violence it will be guerrilla terrorist tactics like back in the seventies or multiple riots in big cities.
True I've thought about that as well.
The center of the country is where most of the hard core conservitisum seems to be located with the coastal areas being more liberal. No surprise to me cause I grew up in the midwest and know how it is there. Mostly all white until not long ago and and slow growth is the nature of the midwest while the coastal areas have more variety of nationalities all living closely together and those areas always have had growth.
I just cant see America divided up along idolcial lines and not territorial lines and actually having what we consider an all out civil war in this country again.
We are all mixed up location wise. We have been living along side of each other way too long.
Probably and hopefully soon calmer heads will prevail.
east and west coast? yes.
the third coast? secured by rightwingers
That's true all along the gulf coast it's mainly old school redneck conservatives. As seen in the popular "Swamp Gator" tv show. I was in Hammond LA for a while, very nice people but definitely a lot of really conservative ideology ingrained there.
As far as divided areas most major cities would also be more liberal than conservative and they are peppered all around the nation. Plus everything flows thru those cities the conservatives would need that the liberals would control.
What a mess another civil war would be .....
Maybe we should all just try to get along a little better instead.
lol
with some things, there can be no compromise. and by strict definition, we are not going to have a civil war... seriously. nope.
protests and riots do not a civil war make. when state govts start that riot? that is a civil war. nothing less even qualifies.
all we will see is the continuation of the "culture war"
watching the left get arrested will be good fun for everyone.
If you think that and I bet ya do or you would say it, then In my opinion you must have a pretty sick sense of fun.
It pains me to see this country so divided, Its a big damn country and we should be able to share it.
You are probably correct a full out civil war probably wont happen but even if there are major protests, riots and deaths I dont see much humor in any of it.
With power comes responsibility. Unfortunately not all people can handle either. Ignoring the needs and desires of those who have no to little power often leads to revolt.
Unfortunately I dont see people with the power currently concerned at all about those with no power. I predict this will come back to bite the trump movement in the ass.
time will tell.
what is not fun about people who start riots being thrown in jail?
the bs from the left over the past decade demands justice be served like we mean it for any further bs from the left.
that incivility of the left will stop one way or another . if they want peace and civility? they can have it. or not... totally their choice.
personally? I hope they go for it... every violent act from the left will result in more votes for the right
I can see I will not be making much headway here, have a nice evening.
what headway did you expect from me? im not trying to start any civil wars.
no one wants a pickle (trouble) or any version of a civil war except those on the left. (progressives)
the democrat party has been infested with progressives and they are stupid enough to want a civil war.
If I could talk them out of it? I would. it is a very bad plan they have. and quite rude as well.
if they choose violence they provide a way for us to get rid of them and that will be progress towards civility.
like you I am bumed our country has come to this kind of bs
but I also will be glad to watch progressives get their asses handed to them with felony riot charges, 10yrs in jail and 250,000 dollar fines.. yes I think that will be just fun enough and nothing will bring peace and civility back faster than that.
as for peace and civility on the internet?
The Canadians don't want them.....they are pretty tough on Immigration to begin with. None of that sneaking across the border stuff.....
I seriously do not think the left has the juice it thinks it has and if they keep up with the bs they will get a civil public spanking
to my friends on the left I simply say - burn a city and then watch what happens this time