Papa Johns Founders Racial Slur
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MLB suspends Papa Slam promotion with Papa John's after founder's racial slur
Mike Oz, Yahoo Sports 10 hours ago Major League Baseball has indefinitely suspended its Papa Slam promotion with Papa John’s pizza, Yahoo Sports has confirmed.
The pizza chain is under scrutiny after founder John Schnatter admitted to and apologized for using the N-word in a May training session , an event that became public Wednesday. In the aftermath, Schnatter announced his resignation as the company’s chairman late Wednesday night. He previously resigned his seat on the board of trustees at the University of Louisville .
Now Major League Baseball is distancing itself from Papa John’s. Their relationship began in 2016, when baseball started dubbing grand slams “Papa Slams.” Each one allowed baseball fans to get 40 percent off their order at Papa John’s the next day by using a Papa Slam online coupon code.
MLB’s web page for Papa Slams says that 20 have been hit in 2018, the last one being Dexter Fowler’s on Tuesday. However, Greg Bird of the New York Yankees hit a grand slam in the third inning of Wednesday’s game against the Baltimore Orioles and it was not celebrated as a Papa Slam by MLB.
Many MLB teams have their own promotions with Papa John’s outside of the league-wide Papa Slam promotion. For instance, Chicago White Sox fans get 50 percent off after a White Sox win with a special Papa John’s coupon code. Those types of deals are unaffected by MLB’s decision to suspend Papa Slams. Each team that has a deal with Papa John’s — whatever the discount may be — can decide whether to continue or suspend those deals.
MLB has suspended its Papa Slam promotion with Papa John’s. (AP)The racist incident that spurred this was brought to light by Forbes, which reported on a May PR training session involving Schnatter. According to Forbes , Schnatter tried to downplay his past controversies by saying that Colonel Sanders — the founder of KFC — called black people the N-word.
In a statement issued Wednesday by Papa John’s, Schnatter said:
“News reports attributing the use of inappropriate and hurtful language to me during a media training session regarding race are true. Regardless of the context, I apologize. Simply stated, racism has no place in our society.”
Schnatter founded Papa John’s but stepped down as CEO last year after a different controversy . He blamed the company’s declining sales on protests in the NFL during the national anthem. While he stepped down as CEO, he’s still on the company’s board of directors.
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Never had their pizza and never wanted to. Too many great local pizzerias in WNY to go to.
He is another scum sucking asshole.
Good Guys on your list? I go there's when in N.T. Buzzy's and La Hacienda in the falls, Tony's in Sanborn is good (they do a nice pizza sub), Chop's in Gasport (near where I live).....the list goes on and on........
Good guys in my travels.
I'm always amazed to see Pizza Hut and Dominoes clawing to their existence here. I have no idea who eats there........
In a PR training session, how stupid can he get...
In a PR training session, how stupid can he get...
That's the best part of the story. It's so Trumpster.
He is trying to defend himself by claiming that others are just as racist as he is, so he did nothing wrong.
I don’t think he did anything wrong. We should not be trying to ban words. We should be supporting his freedom of speech.
Nobody said anything about banning words and he wasn't arrested or fined for his words.
Why should we tolerate racism?
Because it’s not illegal. And there is no indication he was claiming one race is superior to another.
Nobody is banning words. Some however, are spending their money elsewhere. Including me.
Well! For a period of time Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobador and Dachau weren't 'technically illegal' either.
I guess it all depends where the heart is, right?
The 'n' word isn't banned, Dean, anyone can use it anytime they like. Some people aren't going to want to have anything to do with you if you do is all, and that's their right too.
So that makes it ok? Really? You have got to be kidding me.
When your name and your face represent a publicly owned corporation standards are higher...
Looks like the company doesn't share your views since Schnatter has resigned. Apparently they don't want to be associated with really dumb bigots.
Colonel Sanders is dead, isn't he?
There is the rub, most people who support Trump don't think he did anything wrong. Truly sad.
I like how our Racist-in-Chief expressed his inner xenophobe in his interview with the UK Sun in this segment regarding immigration:
He really hates Muslims, doesn't he?
He's right it is not good for Europe and the place is turning into a real craphole.
So you've been to Europe in the last couple of years and seen for yourself?
Especially when they can't even keep a hate-monger like the orange Fuhrer out.
But at least that's one think Brits can agree on.....they universally despise Trump.
He hates everyone who isn't white.
Well there it is another person who really showed his colors.
I hope it costs him a lot of money to now interact with folks on a business level and yet i am really hoping that folks will distance themselves professionally and privately.
As they say, doesn't matter what you got, lose lips sink ships!!
My initial reaction to these stories is usually the same. It's always amazing to me that there are people - especially if they are successful people - who even have this word available to them in their vocabulary bucket. It's a word I literally never use. I could be angry, drunk, drugged up, whatever, and it would never occur to me to use this word. The only people I have ever associated with who used it were black (a practice I disagree with, but I get it and have never attacked anyone for it). Why a white person - particularly a leader of a huge corporation - would say this word (even accidentally) just blows my mind.
Having said all that, there does seem to be something about this particular story that appears to be an overreaction given the context. It appears he was quoting/paraphrasing someone else (Colonel Sanders). He himself wasn't trying to use the word on or about anyone, and the whole discussion was supposed to be anti-racist. Although even in this context, I personally would say "n-word" instead of the word itself.
Perhaps if he hadn't already gotten himself in trouble over his NFL comments, people wouldn't have been as sensitive. Still, the idea that you can quote someone and be treated as if they were your words seems to reflect the trend in our society where people rush to be offended rather than dispassionately analyze what is actually being said.
for shits sake, why would you admit that and yet comment on this....since you clearly have the same issue per your own words.
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did you not notice that you are the only one that has even suggested this can be mitigated away. by the way, the fact that HE DID get himself in trouble for his NFL comments would suggest that THIS SITUATION is confirmation that he is lacking in the ability to have anyone suggest a defense or level of sensitivity is the problem.
he is the problem and he has public twice did something that NORMAL PEOPLE dont need to do because they know it is wrong to do and say.
i just dont get why you have such a tough time understanding that nobody is being OVERLY SENSITIVE. they / we / are holding him accountable for the choices he has made based on his personal conduct where he was under no duress.
Why make excuses...
I don't follow you. What's wrong with admitting that I never use the n-word?
Yeah, I don't let other people do my critical thinking for me. I'm not part of the mob. I don't measure the truth of something by how many people on an Internet forum agree with me.
I think that's probably true. I said as much in my earlier comment. It seems like you missed that point.
Do you think referencing/quoting someone who used the n-word simply to say "he said n-" is the same as using it yourself to refer to someone? As I said, I personally wouldn't do either one, but the first use is obviously less offensive than the latter.
Maybe you need to re-read what you wrote because you didnt say you NEVER use the n-word--sheesh man
again, you want to act as if you dont know WHAT you typed. thus the MITIGATION was referring to you and the need to make excuses for this mans conduct.
a critical thinker doesn't get on the INTERNET and suggest that a business leader has any room what so ever to use a racial slur on a conference call , especially with people he doesn't know. so you are wont be mistaken for being a critical thinker.
you know what i have known as most adults do. That when a person says " i said as much in my earlier comment" means they didn't. just say it the way it has to be said. which is directly.
YES- as a matter of fact i find that if you have to say it because someone else did that makes you no better. Most normal people who know that word was used dont repeat they just say that the person who did "used a bad word".
WRONG again, again your need to think that way makes it clear why you comment or reply the way you do. And that is really to bad if you cant see that.
Maybe you need to reread it . Here, I'm literally copying and pasting, but I will bold the important part:
I went on to say:
You even copied it and pasted it yourself in 6.1 .
It kind of makes it hard to justify debating you because you clearly aren't paying attention to the words people actually say. The bias you bring to the discussion literally prevents you from seeing the truth. Amazing.
how about saying shit straight--
" i never use the N word"
that lives no room for doubt.
there is nothing to debate. either you think he is dead wrong or as you have done, suggest there is a reasonable excuse for him using it.
to me there is no excuse especially when its in the company of others not known to him.
I'm using plain English words. They don't have that many syllables. Why don't you just admit that you falsely accused me because your bias caused you to hastily rush past my actual words?
plain english words - what ever.
plain english is direct.
using that word makes people feel like your bull shitting. and so either you have or would use that word because if you would never then the plain english style would be as such " i would never use the n word"
literally allows for doubt. say as you mean it.
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You falsely accused me. Just admit it. You'd actually earn some respect.
i did go back and re-read your sentence with the excuse you suggested for this guy. i still feel you have or did use the word, or you would have just said you NEVER have used the word. And the way that sentence reads to me is the same as the first time.
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Your feelings contradict the facts. Typical.
I do not use the word. You have no special knowledge otherwise and at this point, I'm going to have to insist that you stop trying to defame me online. Apparently it's time to start flagging your comments.
My own statement, in response to nothing in particular and with no prompting was that it is a word I never use.
And I believe your campaign to smear my reputation on this seed is a violation of the rules of this site. You have demonstrated that it is more important to you to defame people you don't like rather than engage in an intelligent debate.
I invite you to reconsider your words and retract them. You have no specific evidence that I have ever used the n-word and so your claim that I have amounts to libel.
I've never known a black person to use that word. The people I knew that use it were all white. One of them is now dead (my brother) and I don't associate with the others any longer
More inner-city use than in the country, though I have heard it used by blacks, also seems to be a standard in song lyrics-I think it's a word no one should use, but I don't control anyone but me and I will not use that word. Ever.
An acquaintance of mine once used it loudly in a restaurant we were in. An African-American woman was at the salad bar and J just blurted it out loudly about **** and something while we were sitting at our table. I'm surprised she didn't get the shit kicked out of her.
I no longer see this woman and her bigoted husband socially.
Understandably-you are judged by the company you keep-and could get your ass kicked for just being there. Good move on your part. As you know, the Air Force does not tolerate that kind of stuff and as I'm coming up on 40 years total, it's become pretty ingrained.
And that's the thing! Her husband is a retired Master Sgt and she's been married to an AF man ever since she left high school. You would think she would know better. He was actually worse than she was.
No doubt about that.
You guessed wrong. I have black people in my family.
Schnatter is the younger up and coming breed of the 'conservative oligarchy.' He is a regular attendee of Koch sponsored events designed to remake American government and American society.
As far as the ****** word, it has been used in the common American vernacular for centuries. Ever see "Django Unchained?" Is the word offensive? Of course. It was and is meant to be offensive.
Much like in music, "that" word is used but under the guise of, "art", which movies and music are. I know, sounds stupid, but that's the truth. That's what has protected porn for so long, it's considered "art".
sadly another attempt at making an excuse for someone who benefits from the public based on his business that is available as a choice to the consumer.
some of us consumers believe that a person who runs such a company should not be engaged in an activity that has to do with comments that in the context effects one populous of this country. Much less have to speak in such a way that others KNOW is offensive in that type of public presentation.
As far as your movie reference, the time period and scope of the movie is made clear to those who choose to see that style of movie. The fact that it was not toned down is expected because that is exactly how life was back then. The deflection you presented would have some validity if it was found out that the producer or individual out side of this movie project used those words.
Again, most see this mans need to use that term in a meeting with others who know the context he used it in was unprofessional , unwarranted and ignorant.
And when you are that high up in image based on society's expectations , and choose to say such things, then you dont get to keep that benefit.
Given their odious history on issues like this, it's a sign of social progress that the board of Papa Johns wanted nothing more to do with Schnatter. This isn't exactly the first time he's let his inner bigot out.
well sadly thats exactly right, this type of person along with the others in news lately just get to comfortable and forget that everyone is not in AAAH of them.
And the down fall of some of these folks in the news lately have this commonality of assuming that there statute is supposed to transcend to anyone around them.
I don't want to blame ALL of this racist crap on Trump but it seems that some right wingers are now so comfortable expressing their inner bigot that we've returned to the era of kicking folks out of swimming pools because they have too much melanin and might contaminate the water. Did you see the latest one?
Trump has accomplished what physicists have not, the ability to time travel back to the good old days of the Jim Crow south.
I would venture to say that every left-winger on this site has used the "n" word multiple times in their casual and social conversations. I think what we are witnessing here is liberal and mostly white guilt.
LMFAO! If you can do that to a youtube video, his pizza commercials just got real funny.
Papa Johns just killed off their logo:
Let me make it perfectly clear for everyone, if you are a white male or female, just don't say nigger. Really in any context, academic is slightly different, but in general conversation or interaction, just don't say it. Piss and moan about fairness all you want, I am just saying if you are white and you say nigger you will be considered to be a racist.
The way you just used the word is not radically different from the way Papa John used it.
rappers can say what the pizza man can't
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