Kavanaugh sought to ask explicit questions about Bill Clinton's relations with Lewinsky

It sounds to me like he planned on having too much fun trying to humiliate the Clintons and possibly Democrats in general. 

He should be rejected for the Supreme Court. 

He should be rejected for the Supreme Court

Is that the excuse for today? It's always amusing seeing people who announced their opposition before the nominee was even announced declare they should be rejected. 

Just be honest, you would be calling for the rejection of any Trump nominee who isn't  a certified liberal. 

Don't embarrass yourself with these pretend objections. 

th these pretend objections.

It isn't just "these" objections. It's these as well:

One example of the conservative judge’s take on workers’ rights is his dissent—the only one—in a case involving the SeaWorld trainer who was  eaten by a killer whale during a performance in 2010 , the third time the whale had been “involved in a human death.” While his colleagues upheld a prior ruling that the theme park had violated safety standards by “exposing . . . trainers to recognized hazards when working in close contact with killer whales during performances,” Kavanaugh  thought that was bullshit , writing that lots of sports are dangerous, but that doesn’t mean the Labor Department should use its authority to implement regulations aimed at minimizing the chances that trainers will be eaten in full view of paying customers. “When should we as a society paternalistically decide,” Kavanaugh  asked , “that the risk of significant physical injury is simply too great even for eager and willing participants? And most importantly for this case,  who decides  that the risk to participants is too high?” Presumably B-Kavs, as we imagine his fellow Yalies called him, also believes that coal-mining companies shouldn’t have to comply with onerous rules intended to prevent mine collapses—because those miners know what they’re signing up for, dammit. Unsurprisingly, Kavanaugh’s take on the SeaWorld  incident  didn’t go over well with labor unions and workers’-rights groups, many of which have opposed his nomination. (“ Judge Kavanaugh routinely rules against working families, regularly rejects the employees’ right[s] to receive employer-provided health care, too often sides with employers in denying employees relief from discrimination in the workplace, and promotes overturning well-established U.S. Supreme Court precedent,” AFL-CIO President  Richard Trumka  said   in a statement.) [Emphasis mine.] But his opinion that trainer  Dawn Brancheau  basically had it coming is just one of many that scare people who value things like workers’ rights, clean air, and consumer protection.

Cite .

“The National Disability Rights Network shares the concerns of the civil rights community about the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh to the United States Supreme Court. Disability is a condition that can affect all Americans, across all races, genders, sexual orientation, religion and economic status. Any weakening of the laws that protect Americans from discrimination and ensure equal opportunity would negatively affect individuals with disabilities as well.”

Curt Decker, executive director of   National Disability Rights Network

Kavanaugh's opinion in a case involving a challenge under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act to the Affordable Care Act's so-called contraceptive mandate,   Priests for Life v. HHS, has also drawn scrutiny. In a dissent, he expressed sympathy for the religious challengers. Making reference to the Supreme Court's ruling in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, he wrote that "the regulations substantially burden the religious organizations' exercise of religion because the regulations require the organizations to take an action contrary to their sincere religious beliefs."

In a line that has attracted some conservative criticism [emphasis mine], however, Kavanaugh also wrote in his dissent that Supreme Court precedent "strongly suggests that the government has a compelling interest in facilitating access to contraception for the employees of these religious organizations."

Don't embarrass yourself

Right leaners against Kavanaugh:

Kavanaugh is a polarizing figure in the health-care debate. Among the things that distinguish him from the other finalists on Trump’s list is his expansive view of executive power — he argued that a president could decline to enforce a statute such as Obamacare even if a court upholds its constitutionality — and his dissent in a 2011 case in which others on his appellate court upheld the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act.

Republicans are likely to bring Obamacare into the confirmation hearings, too. Some conservative groups opposed Kavanaugh because they think his dissent in the Obamacare case didn’t go far enough in declaring it unconstitutional.

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It would be genuinely depressing if the public debate over Judge Kavanaugh, and the confirmation process, turn out to be focused on one question: How conservative is he, exactly?

That’s a terrible question, because it ignores a crucial difference between two kinds of judges – a difference that cuts across traditional political lines.

Some judges, and some conservatives, insist on judicial restraint. They want judges to back off.

They deplore Roe v. Wade not because of their political convictions, but because the Supreme Court seized on ambiguous constitutional provisions in order to strike down the laws of numerous states. They do not think that the Supreme Court should require states to recognize same-sex marriages, not because they oppose such marriages, but because they think that judges should allow states a lot of room to maneuver.

Restrained conservatives have no enthusiasm for the liberal rulings of the last decades, because they think that judges intruded far too often, and far too readily, into the democratic process. They want judges to have a smaller role in American government.

Yes, these are exactly the "fill in the blank with  the nominee's name" type of protests that would have been used against any Republican.

As predictable as they are irrelevant. 

As predictable as they are irrelevant. 

No problem, hon. Big deal. The right's not crazy about him either. You just like to argue. Fine with me. I love it. I love it, love it, love it. It shows what some of the right are made of. Or not made of. They love that their president has openly lusted for his daughter. They love that their president talked about baby Tiffany's tits when she was in her bassinet. They love that he said that Howard Stern could call his daughter a piece of ass. They love that he's been endorsed by David Duke. They love, love, love that he's called his base idiots countless times. They love it. 

Alright.  Would it be fair and pertinent to ask Donald J. Trump if Karen McDougal performed oral sex on him?

Do not know where the lines are for conservatives, except that the conservatives always favor shifting lines.

Would it be fair and pertinent to ask Donald J. Trump if Karen McDougal performed oral sex on him?

Questions about sex are relevant in a sexual harassment lawsuit.

Are you seriously claiming they shouldn't be?

Would it be fair and pertinent to ask Donald J. Trump if Karen McDougal performed oral sex on him?

Questions about sex are relevant in a sexual harassment lawsuit. Are you seriously claiming they shouldn't be?

Should , say, Adam Schiff be eager to ask Trump if he came in Karen McDougal's mouth, and if she swallowed it or spit it out ? 

It sounds like an extra intrusive line of questioning, doesn't it?  Sort of like the cigar in the "front hole" question sounds coming from Kavanaugh. It signals a desire for some sort of sensationalism not appropriate to merely find out if the sex occurred. 

Something that a political operative, not a judge, might want to do. 

ort of like the cigar in the "front hole" question sounds coming from Kavanaugh. It signals a desire for some sort of sensationalism not appropriate to merely find out if the sex occurred. 

It's a sexual harassment case. Details can be sensational.  

Americans young and old, red and blue, watched day and night. We watched a beleaguered president and the embattled and often disenchanted members of his administration as they protected him. We watched a First Lady and First Daughter move through the year with grit and grace. We watched a special prosecutor get pilloried (though some thought he deserved it). We watched an American family—my family—as a mother was forced to testify against her child and as a father was forced to take his daughter to be fingerprinted at the Federal Building. We watched the wholesale dissection of a young, unknown woman—me—who, due to legal quarantine, was unable to speak out on her own behalf.

Words from Monica Lewinsky, who admitted several times the affair was consensual . So, if indeed a cigar was part of their foreplay, then no one, including the cigaree, was complaining. 

But nobody asked for consent from the taxpayers that got stuck paying the bill for his prostitute. It wouldn't have been nearly as bad if she wasn't his employee paid with our money. Knowing Slick Willie he probably stuck the taxpayer with the bill for the cigar too. 

don't use a intern instead.

It was consensual. I wouldn't have done it. Most people wouldn't have done it. But read Monica's articles. There are about five out there. It was consensual. Totally, completely, unequivocally consensual. Much like Stormy and Trumplethinskin. Be the moral police for someone else, but don't be the moral police for Monica. She doesn't want it nor does she need it. She really is a very good writer and makes herself quite clear. 

Knowing Slick Willie he probably stuck the taxpayer with the bill for the cigar too

For all you know, it was a gift from Monica. 

So was Stormy Daniels time with Trump yet you all are making a big deal about that. 

Stormy Daniels time with Trump yet you all are making a big deal about that.

Could it be because he raw dogged her after Barron was mere days old? You guys made a stink about First Lady Michelle Obama wearing a sleeveless dress. And? And Stormy was consensual as well. The only difference is she got $184k out of the deal. Monica asked for nothing because she thought she was in love. 

You think Bill Clinton was the first guy to get a blowjob from someone who wasn't his wife while in the White House? 

Much like Stormy and Trumplethinskin.

Much more like Matt Lauer. 

Stormy wasn't an employee.

The only difference is she got $184k out of the deal.

We know what Daniels is and she choose her rates(she ain't worth it)  that she decided she wants more after the fact is too bad. 

You think Bill Clinton was the first guy to get a blowjob from someone who wasn't his wife while in the White House? 

No I can think of at least one other and he was a democrat also. Tell me do you or did you let you kids off the hook if they said 'Johny (or Janee)  did it too. "

Tell me do you or did you let you kids off the hook if they said 'Johny

Fine talk, coming from you. Mooshel ring a bell for you? The outrage over a sleeveless dress ring a bell with you? I don't give a shit who gets a consensual blow job. It means nothing to me. What does mean something to me is an emperor with no clothes that lusts after his daughter. What does mean something to me is someone who doesn't blast neo-nazi's (especially given that his grandchildren and the daughter he openly lusts after are Jewish) and who is supported by David Duke. What does mean something to me is someone who has cheated contractors and friends and foe alike. What does mean something to me that someone who consistently lies even when there's videotaped incidents of the things he lies about. What does mean something to me that he says something demeaning and nasty in an infantile way every single day. What I do care about is someone who has made America a laughing stock in other countries' eyes. What I do care about is someone talking trash about an American hero, a prisoner of war, calling him a loser because he was captured when the morally bankrupt idiot claimed five deferments. McCain stayed captured because he refused to leave his men behind. That doesn't resonate with Trumplethinskin. By the way, I heard the military declined to participate in a parade because they all had bone spurs! Ha~! And what I do care about is a guy who ran for president knowing his wife had nude girl-on-girl and porn pictures out there, just a Google search away, knowing they had a young son and that his son would be subject to others showing him those photos and not giving one iota of a mote of a shit that he son would have to be subjected to that. Apparently you don't. Big fuckin' deal on a consensual blow job. Who gives a lousy shit. 

George Bush Sr asked quite a few for them.

What guy hasn't? 

was a democrat also

Keep talkin', arkie. You're a gift to the Dems. As I've already mentioned, one needn't been a member of NT to read the comments. And those who are on the fence, the young voting voices who are ready to be heard, can read your comments and know exactly what the right is made of. And you exemplify all that is wrong with some on the right. Keep talkin', arkie. I love hearing from you. Keep up the rhetoric. You're the dems' idea of heaven. 

As I've already mentioned,

So why repeat yourself? It doesn't make your opinion anymore true.

So why repeat yourself?

Because people keep saying the ridiculous things they say. And, in true loser spirit, if one doesn't respond they feel you don't have anything to say and that their argument is superior. And we all know that not true, don't we? 

But nobody asked for consent from the taxpayers that got stuck paying the bill for his prostitute

No one asked me if I want to pay trumps 100 million a year golf tab either but guess what? I do. 

So was Stormy Daniels time with Trump yet you all are making a big deal about that.

That's because;

1) The payment could be a campaign finance violation.

2) Trump has cheated on all of his wives, multiple times yet still claims he is a, "good Christian", and Pence backs him on that.. SMH

3) Stormy Daniels was consensual, there are 19 other accusers out there that trump sexually assaulted without consent. 

in true loser spirit, if one doesn't respond

You need to check what you type. In your rush to put someone down you only managed to put down yourself.

You need to check what you type.

Okay, let's diagram it out for you:

And, in true loser spirit, if one doesn't respond they feel you don't have anything to say and that their argument is superior. And we all know that not true, don't we? 

You would think that if I don't respond then you would think I don't have anything to say and you would think your argument is superior. And we all know that's not true, don't we? Wow. Is it easier for you to grasp now? Not that you're a real loser. 

How far did you get in school? Just curious. 

who admitted several times the affair was consensual .

Then why did Bill Clinton deny it happened?

hen why did Bill Clinton deny it happened?

Because he's a man and that's what men do. Trump originally denied Stormy Daniels. 

Because he's a man and that's what men do.

Don't like them?

Don't like them?

Who said that? Are you kidding me? I love them. But I'm sapiosexual. The brain is the sexiest organ on the body. A well-developed sense of humor sends me to the moon. That being said, as much as I love men (and I get girl crushes too, but I am not sexually attracted to them - add intellect and a sense of humor together, then I am beyond impressed), one can be hot looking as all hell, but if they open their mouths and they're idiots, I run in the other direction. ( Deleted )

By the way, I have been blessed when it comes to the opposite sex. I have never been cheated on (that I know of), I have never once been physically, emotionally, psychologically or spiritually abused by any man in my life. Not once. Nor has my sister. My beloved Daddy taught us well. He never laid a hand on any of us. When I was a young adult, I asked why. He claimed it was because he was deathly afraid that if I was in a relationship and a man laid his hands on us, we would justify it by saying "my daddy loved me and he hit me, so it must be okay." It has never happened. Not once. I'm the luckiest woman on earth. Not one man has broken my heart. Not one man has ended a relationship with me. My ex that I was with for decades forgave me when I fell in love with someone else. Because he'd rather I be in his life as his friend than not at all. 

So yeah. If they're smart, if they're funny, then yeah. I like them. A lot. A real lot. 

I notice you did a little editing.

Did you get a heads up or did you have second thoughts?

A well-developed sense of humor sends me to the moon.

So this duck walks into a bar.....

Did you get second thoughts?

Nope. I thought I could put it to you in a way you'd understand. You'll notice KDMichigan had a little trouble grasping the most simple concept. Some people call it dumbing down. I just try to help the right a little. I'm generous that way.

So this duck walks into a bar.....

A letch, a guy who wants to fuck his daughter, a traitor and a liar walk into a bar. The bartender asks: "What'll you have, Mr. President?"

Nope. I thought I could put it to you in a way you'd understand.

Don't say "nope". You changed it. It would have been deleted. You were either warned by someone or you realized how flagrant it was

I was distracted during a family emergency and never finished the ticket  {SP}

Now kindly Drop it

You were either warned by someone or you realized how flagrant it was

Yeah, yeah ... whatever. 

never finished the ticket

Thank you for clearing that up, SP. Tickets are like hangovers ... some are just worth it. Although truth be told, I don't even know which comment was ticketed. But someone got hurt feelers, so I'm sure it was deserved. 

Yeah, yeah ... whatever. 

That's amazing. Do you know those were the exact last words an old girlfriend said to me when I told her it was over!

when I told her it was over

Shows the level of her disappointment. 

I can't blame her, not after being called what she was called

Kavanaugh is just what trump ordered, someone "loyal" who he can sic on people, and to help push the Putin/trump agenda.

I wonder which one pays him the most?

The Mercer Cartel and the array of the overpaid Televangelicals.

Really? How innocent.

LOL

I've been asked to look at this conversation stream, and I have a couple of comments.

First, ref. the comparison of Trump to Clinton, concerning their affairs.  The question is not whether they did it.  It is not a question of the relationship with the female.  The question which would be of concern to the country is how both of them handled the accusation, once made.  In both cases, the President engaged in deception about a personal matter, using the office of the Presidency to validate their lie.  In both cases, I feel that the President (or small p president, in Trump's case) committed an impeachable offense.  This is an opinion, and that opinion is based on my minimum moral expectation upon the office.  No man or woman who cannot square with the American people, their employer, deserves a job in the Oval Office, and if they have already ascended to that role, they need to be removed.  To do otherwise is to be open to extortion by any number of actors.

Clinton suffered consequences for his action, being disbarred in AR and being impeached in the Presidency, for lying under oath (as if 'under oath' was actually a necessary qualifier.  Impeachment is a political action, not a judicial one).  Do I hear a rousing chorus of "Gander-Gander"?  Trump supporters cannot rationally claim that Clinton 'got off' (pardon the pun), and that Trump deserves a bye on that account.

The question of comparison, though, really boils down to immediacy.  Clinton was a problem decades ago.  Today we are faced with the problem extant, through Trump.  He is in office NOW, and that creates problems.  Big, big problems, initiated by Trumps penchant for lying, insult, illegal action, and cruel action.  The partisanship that this has created is not just a political one, but a moral one, as well.

And Kavanaugh mirrors that sort of moral ambivalence, shown in his political suasion favoring ideology over jurisprudence.  It is fully fitting that Congress investigate that moral lassitude thoroughly, however much time that takes.  Unless, of course, one believes that the truth is not the truth.  He may well be confirmed.  It may well be necessary for the next administration to load more Justices onto the court, to balance it once more.  Conservatives that think Kavanaugh is some sort of victory, well, I hope you enjoy your vacation at the Pyrrhic Shores Beach Club, Black Sea, Russia.

Aside from that, Perrie can be assured that I will not be making a camp at Newstalkers.  Some folks here don't, and never have, deserved a civil reply.

Some folks here don't, and never have, deserved a civil reply.

You are a fuckin' god.

There were a couple of NTers that made me avoid the site completely as well, but as time moves forward, I find that sometimes there are instances where the wheat is separated from the chaff and that made a bit of a difference for me. It's obvious that there are those who just enjoy seeing what they term "seeing the left with their panties in a wad" and insist on commenting in a way that is merely trolling, seeking the ire and outrage that ignorance promotes. Frankly, I admire those that admit that they're party over country, Trump over Americans, just because they enjoy the perceived chaos that thinly veiled racism and obvious feigned incomprehension promotes. It's all to get a reaction. No one could be that unaware. They deliberately ignore or disregard important information or facts simply because their incestuous, traitorous, ignorant emperor has attempted to convince them of the finery of his clothes. That fat fucker is naked as a jaybird and twice as stupid.

Good gosh, it's good to see you. 

CB, the "communications" that the right wingers of NT (and elsewhere) foist upon us represent the drip drip dumbing down of America. Trumpism is the product that comes out of that meat grinder. If you shove stupidity and ignorance and racism into the meat grinder. 

If you shove stupidity and ignorance and racism into the meat grinder.

Call me naive, but I refuse to believe some are that ridiculously, absurdly ignorant. They do it believing they're getting a rise out of those with an IQ higher than 50 simply because their small little lives are so empty, so nugatory, so inconsequential, so meaningless that poking others with a stupid stick shows they mean something somewhere. 

Trump called his base idiots the moment he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and they'd still vote for him. If President Obama said anything even remotely similar to that, I would have called into question his stability. I wouldn't have voted for him. For his base to KNOW he wants to fuck his own daughter, to KNOW he's filled the swamp not drained it, to KNOW he let the world know he is a traitor ... well, it just boggles my mind. 

Hi SD,

Long time no see. Nice to see someone not give a two line slogan for the situations both past and present. Even if one disagrees, they can't say that you didn't give it a lot of thought.

I'm hoping you change your mind. I know you don't suffer fools, but there are enough good peeps here that you can get something gratifying out of a discussion. Give it some thought... I'd like to see you stay, as much as you can. 

Anyway, howdy old friend. Good to see some people from my sorted past, LOL!

Agree with Perrie.

Don't get caught up with anyone who is only interested in interweb cowboi shootem ups, regardless of which side.

There are other discussions.

Perrie,

Thanks.  You are most kind.  But I'd put you in a difficult position, trying to moderate-rein me in.    You and your team do a good job, from what I hear, but I'm concentrating on pricking Trump on Twit, so my writing is normally thru the roof, and it's a habit I'll be cultivating until after the impeachment.  My lip knows little bounds.

CB,

I still owe you that pic of the dogs and I, all in sweatshirts.  Color me lazy beyond reason.

Aside from that

Aside from all that, you look just as hot as you ever have. I'm sure you'd look just as hot in a dog sweatshirt as you do in a tux. Love you, skydog. And I miss you tons too. But I digress. 

it's good to see you

Agree with cobalt.

And Perrie, and Dave   hahaa

Wish you would stop by more often.