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‘New York Post’ Cover Mocks Trump-Bashing Meghan McCain as ‘The Meg’

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  8 years ago  •  194 comments

‘New York Post’ Cover Mocks Trump-Bashing Meghan McCain as ‘The Meg’
The New York Post mocked Meghan McCain as “The Meg” on its Sunday cover after she used the opportunity of her father’s funeral to attack President Trump.

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“The Meg” is a reference to a plus-sized shark in the late-summer hit movie The Meg , starring Jason Staham.

The New York Post cover is just one part of a brewing backlash against McCain and the overall funeral service for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), which turned into an unseemly partisan rally Saturday with speakers like former Presidents Barack Obama and even George W. Bush trashing President Trump, who Sen. McCain refused to invite to his own funeral.

Also not invited was former Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin, John McCain’s unfailingly loyal 2008 vice presidential running mate.

What made Saturday’s shocking display all the more crass was that Trump’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared were invited to the funeral and were forced to sit there and be humiliated, which might have been the plan. The McCains are infamous for holding petty grudges.

In an obvious shot at Trump, Meghan McCain used her eulogy to describe the death of her father as the passing of “American greatness. The real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly, nor the opportunistic appropriation of those who lived lives of comfort and privilege while he suffered and served.”

For good measure, she added, “The America of John McCain has no need to be made great again because America was always great.”

Obama was also not subtle. He ripped into those who traffic in “bombast and insult and phony controversies and manufactured outrage.”

“John called on us to be bigger than that. He called on us to be better than that,” he added, which struck many as a rose-colored look at man known for lashing out and who once attacked two Republican senators as “wacko birds” for daring to disagree with him.

Also, in an apparent fit of pique against Trump, one of McCain’s final acts as a U.S. Senator was to violate his longstanding and oft-repeated promise to voters to repeal ObamaCare.

Although McCain had repeatedly given his word over a number of years to repeal the unpopular boondoggle, when his was the deciding vote in July of 2017, before voting thumbs down, McCain reportedly said to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) “Let’s see Donald make America great again now” — an obvious reference to the president.

McCain then went back on his pledge. His lone vote was the one that saved Obamcare, but he had his revenge.

For his part, Bush was only a tad more subtle. He described McCain as a man who “respected the dignity inherent in every life – a dignity that does not stop at borders and cannot be erased by dictators.”

According to the Associated Press , the audience, which was filled with media and political elites, even applauded as though this were a campaign rally, as opposed to a funeral for a legitimate war hero and long-term senator.

Many of those watching at home were disgusted by the politicization of a man’s death, and used social media to comment on the irony-filled and inappropriate spectacle of elites using a funeral service (of all places) to attack others over partisanship and a lack of decency. The applause was even worse.

On social media, the reaction was mostly one of shock and sadness at the lack of self-awareness, as opposed to the bitterness that emanated from the Washington National Cathedral:







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This new trend of using funerals and eulogies to deliver political messages is really quite disgusting.

Sympathy from death as means to sway public opinion is next level corrupt.

Everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves.


  











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I lost a woman I loved more than almost anyone this year. It never once dawned on me to eulogize her by throwing in some digs at people she or I may have disliked. I was too busy celebrating and honoring her and feeling sad to even allow adversarial thoughts or speech to enter.












My father was neither famous, nor did he have enemies. But when he died, my only concern was that he ascend to heaven surrounded by love and dignity. Meghan McCain’s eulogy weaponized her own love, and trivialized her father. It was an embarrassment.


   








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At most funerals I’ve attended, it’s God’s love that fills the room, not hate and animus for a person who is not even in attendance.

Disappointed. # McCainMemorial


  




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Make Funerals Poltical Again.


  













Another grotesque stunt by the D.C. elites--bashing President Trump at another funeral.

And they wonder why Americans have contempt for them... # McCainMemorial


  








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Love him or hate him, he’s still their obsession. They can’t do anything without talking about him. Must suck to be that deranged and pathetic. # MAGA









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Tacos!
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2  Tacos!    8 years ago

This is kind of how I felt about it, too. They don't invite a person and then they spend a bunch of time talking about him. What for? If the point is to praise John McCain's character by comparing him to Trump, that's not such a high bar that I'd go bragging about it.

Additionally, it seemed kind of petty for the great man to go disinviting people from his funeral. I have heard he even disinvited Rand Paul. Again, what for?

And planning your own funeral seems kind of narcissistic - something we criticize Trump for, but apparently we applaud John McCain for it.

John McCain had some good qualities at times, but he was not perfect

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
2.2  Studiusbagus  replied to  Tacos! @2    8 years ago
Additionally, it seemed kind of petty for the great man to go disinviting people from his funeral. I have heard he even disinvited Rand Paul. Again, what for?

It was no secret that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz both despised John McCain and the feeling was mutual, although after searching for 30 minutes couldn't even find a hint of McCain disinviting or even mentioning Rand Paul or Ted Cruz....got a link to help? Up to this point it seems a choice they made...kind of petty, no?

 The request for Palin to stay away was true, not sure if that was initiated by him or his family. Frankly, I can see why.

Trump? That's not petty, why would you want a person that cheated his way out of serving to denigrate POW's as he did and by using McCain as the punchline. And that's just for starters.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2    8 years ago

I don't think any of the tea party domestic terrorists were invited, but it was funny watching Elaine Chao nod off.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2    8 years ago
why would you want a person that cheated his way out of serving

According to that logic, McCain shouldn't have invited Bill Clinton as well.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
2.2.3  Studiusbagus  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.2    8 years ago

Did Clinton go to school or did he claim "Bone Spurs" that were suddenly cured when the draft stopped?

Did Clinton mock POW's that were captured in Vietnam? Did he say they weren't heroes? He liked people that didn't get caught?

Donnie did.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.2.5  Jasper2529  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2.3    8 years ago
Did Clinton go to school or did he claim "Bone Spurs" that were suddenly cured when the draft stopped?

I'm surprised that you didn't know that both Clinton and Trump had educational deferments. Look it up.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.6  Ozzwald  replied to    8 years ago
No, Donnie didn't. He didn't make the diagnosis, the doctor(s) did.

The same way his "doctor" did during his campaign?  Or did Donnie write the bone spurs diagnosis himself and have his doctor sign it?  That does seem to be his Modus Operandi.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.7  Tacos!  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2    8 years ago
got a link to help?

Nah, just something I heard on the radio. Honestly, I don't know why Trump would have even shown, invited or not. But what do they think was going to happen? Did they imagine Palin - or anyone else for that matter - was going to show up to a funeral and trash the man? Wouldn't it be more healing for the nation to give rivals a chance to show up and be respectful? I think so.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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2.2.8  Studiusbagus  replied to  Tacos! @2.2.7    8 years ago
Did they imagine Palin - or anyone else for that matter - was going to show up to a funeral and trash the man? Wouldn't it be more healing for the nation to give rivals a chance to show up and be respectful? I think so.

I think Palin being asked not to come was a snub, not a concern for what she may do....well, maybe break out in a brawl. (I just had to)

With Trump, different story that was as personal as it could get. The other concern I would have is after the funeral where I could just imagine Trump saying all those people were there because he was there or some such blowhard comment.

Thanks for clearing up the source, ord knows I will be driving and hear something on NPR and make a mental note of it...until the next stoplight....poof! Gone from this old geezers brain.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.9  Tacos!  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2.8    8 years ago
I could just imagine Trump saying all those people were there because he was there or some such blowhard comment.

Yeah, that's actually highly likely.

I'm not sure the Palins fight unless it's scripted by a network.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
2.2.10  Skrekk  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2.8    8 years ago
I think Palin being asked not to come was a snub, not a concern for what she may do....well, maybe break out in a brawl. (I just had to)

There was no beer or meth served at the funeral service so the Palins would have nothing to fight over.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
2.2.11  Studiusbagus  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.5    8 years ago
I'm surprised that you didn't know that both Clinton and Trump had educational deferments.

And who said I didn't know? You?

Clinton to Oxford and Trump to Fordham and then Wharton.

Yes, they did...here's a difference though.

 Trump graduated from college and his number came up, he suddenly comes up with "Bone Spurs". This after playing sports at Fordham and Golf at Wharton. That was his 5th deferment.

Then miraculously, he was cured when he was safe from the draft. Later, he was asked about this in an interview but couldn't remember the Dr.'s name or which ankle had the bone spur, when pressed about it the whitehouse conveniently said both ankles.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
2.2.12  Studiusbagus  replied to    8 years ago
He didn't make the diagnosis, the doctor(s) did

Trump can't remember which ankle or who the doctor was....the diagnosis was paid for.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.13  MrFrost  replied to    8 years ago
And who knows for sure about Obama.

You did know Obama wasn't old enough for the draft, right? laughing dude

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.16  Ozzwald  replied to    8 years ago
I talking about the military doctors. They make this decision, not the inductee, or enlistee.

The same way our current POTUS's military doctor lied about Trump's last physical?  1 pound below obese by lying about his height and weight?  Military doctors take orders from the commander and chief, who could easily order them to lying in exchange for a promotion...  Like the head of the V.A....?

Obama is 6'1", and slightly leaning in this photo.

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Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.2.17  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to    8 years ago
But he could have enlisted instead of hanging out with criminals

Just as "president" Scumbag didn't have to use a bogus medical excuse to keep his chickenshit ass out of Vietnam and become a criminal. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.19  cjcold  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.5    8 years ago

Problem being that Trump remained ignorant.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.2.20  cjcold  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.16    8 years ago

Obama kept himself in shape. He also kept his security team in shape challenging them with basketball.

Trump eats big macks for breakfast and has no idea of what it means to stay in shape.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.2.21  Jasper2529  replied to  cjcold @2.2.19    8 years ago
Problem being that Trump remained ignorant.

In  comment 2.2.5  I specifically referred to Clinton's and Trump's draft deferments. How did Trump remain "ignorant" of those deferments?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.2.23  cjcold  replied to  Studiusbagus @2.2.12    8 years ago

At what point do patriotic Americans realize that Trump is the opposite of an American patriot.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.25  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  cjcold @2.2.23    8 years ago
At what point do patriotic Americans realize that Trump is the opposite of an American patriot.

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Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.2.26  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  cjcold @2.2.23    8 years ago
At what point do patriotic Americans realize that Trump is the opposite of an American patriot.

For trumpsters, that point doesn't exist.  Scumbag was absolutely right when he said he could murder someone at random in cold blood in the middle of the day at Times Square and they'd call him a hero. Other than for senseless mouthing patriotism has no place in their ideology.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.2.27  MrFrost  replied to    8 years ago

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MrFrost
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2.2.28  MrFrost  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.16    8 years ago

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shona1
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3  shona1    8 years ago

A/noon..As the old saying goes...."There is a time and a place for everything"...and from what I saw on TV this was neither the time nor the place...But as another saying goes "Each to their own".  But I for one felt it seemed some what out of place for a man that was held in such high regard and respected even from over here....I guess it was his daughters choice to read it and so be it...

 
 
 
Skrekk
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3.2  Skrekk  replied to  shona1 @3    8 years ago
A/noon..As the old saying goes...."There is a time and a place for everything"...and from what I saw on TV this was neither the time nor the place.

It's not a surprise that people of such poor character as Trump and Palin were explicitly not invited.

In fact all the eulogies made at least a glancing critique of the incivility, sociopathy and willful ignorance which Trump represents, and I say this is exactly the time and place to draw distinctions between honorable men like McCain and a petty tyrant who neither understands or supports our government.   This is part of Obama's eulogy:

Now, in fact, John was a pretty conservative guy. Trust me, I was on the receiving end of some of those votes. But he did understand that some principles transcend politics. That some values transcend party. He considered it part of his duty to uphold those principles and uphold those values.

John cared about the institutions of self-government, our constitution, our bill of rights, rule of law, separation of powers. Even the arcane rules and procedures of the senate. He knew that in a nation as big and boisterous and diverse as ours, those institutions, those rules, those norms are what bind us together. It gives shape and order to our common life.

Even when we disagree. Especially when we disagree. John believed in honest argument and hearing other views.

He understood that if we get in the habit of bending the truth to suit political expediency or party orthodoxy, our system will not work. That's why he was willing to buck his own party at times; occasionally work across the aisle on campaign finance reform and immigration reform.

That's why he championed a free and independent press as vital to our democratic debate. And the fact that it earned him some good coverage didn't hurt either.

John understood, as JFK understood, as Ronald Reagan understood, that part of what makes our country great is that our membership is based not on our bloodline, not on what we look like, what our last names are, it's not based on where our parents or grandparents came from, or how recently they arrived , but on adherence to a common creed, that all of us are created equal. Endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4  Bob Nelson    8 years ago

If you need help with your copy/pastes, just ask....

... turned into an unseemly partisan rally...

What party would that be?

 
 
 
devangelical
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5  devangelical    8 years ago

The funeral service may have been for Senator McCain, but it's the GOP that will be getting buried.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6  Vic Eldred    8 years ago

I don't blame Megan McCain for feeling the way she does, after all our children, if they are normal, are always on our side. The question becomes was it appropriate to use her father's funeral to take shots at his primary political opponent. The answer of course is a resounding NO. The other things that need to be remembered here is that the President's daughter & son-in-law did attend and were very respectful. It was a terrible thing to do to them. I also wouldn't expect Megan McCain to be cognizant of the fact that it was her father who started the Trump feud by calling Trump supporters "crazies".

Unfortunately, there is more to it than that. Although John McCain hails from a distinguished military family and showed incredible courage as a Navy pilot and incredible strength as a POW, he did have serious flaws which are subject to criticism. Prominent among them would be his thin skin and his craving for revenge over the Trump jab. At a time when liberals were jumping up and down with glee as they were completely obstructing the Trump legislative agenda, Senator John McCain sunk the very legislation that the GOP had labored on for almost a year, then he didn't return to the Senate, holding on to his Senate seat, which reduced the GOP's tenuous majority in the Senate and enshrining his memory when the long anticipated end came.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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6.1  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    8 years ago
I also wouldn't expect Megan McCain to be cognizant of the fact that it was her father who started the Trump feud by calling Trump supporters "crazies".

Leave it to your comment to fuck the truth...

  McCain said that Trumps visit to Arizona wasn't helpful because it brought out the crazies. He didn't call Trump supporters crazies....I'll even state the correct quote as opposed to the bullshit you just wrote.

“It’s very bad,” the Republican senator said. “This performance with our friend out in Phoenix is very hurtful to me,” McCain said. “Because what he did was he fired up the crazies.”

Truth a problem?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Studiusbagus @6.1    8 years ago

Your'e always trying to spin the words.  There is no doubt about it. He called them "crazies" and you just admitted it.

I'm so glad I had you dig up the quote. Something that the media covered every so lightly. Of course, Trump's response was treated as heresy! Trump defended his supporters and himself.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.1.2  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    8 years ago
He called them "crazies" and you just admitted it.

Yes, the whack jobs that came out to fly their hatred flag were called crazies....and it was one comment, about one rally, in one place.

Who's twisting the words again? From that one incident you drew that he called all Trump supporters crazies....That's a big blanket ya got there.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Studiusbagus @6.1.2    8 years ago

Awwww....You would say that about everyone who votes Republican. 

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.1.4  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.3    8 years ago

Now you're backtracking ...again.

I've never said that, ever.

I was a Republican right up until Reagan and the "Moral Majority" started reeling the ugly.

My! You do get desperate.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.1.7  Studiusbagus  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.6    8 years ago

Yeah, when he started lying and hanging around the faux christians I knew he was shooting for the easily led to deceive especially when he did his economic tricks...lower taxes and then not pay the bills making it look like it was a big success. Economists warned him that it would take generations to repair, Reagan painted them as tin foil hat wearers.

 And now Trump's doing the same thing to the same easily led and lied to people, lowered the income taxes then led you to believe that tariffs would be sticking it to China et al....That was the tax you cheered for. In another thread you even deluded yourself that your desired KIA would be free of tariffs because it was Made in America when it's actually ASSEMBLED in America with shipped in components from elsewhere.

When the store assembles your bicycle does that make it made in America?

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.1.8  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    8 years ago

Sorry Vic. As much as you want me to, I will not go there.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    8 years ago
The question becomes was it appropriate to use her father's funeral to take shots at his primary political opponent. The answer of course is a resounding NO.

It was her father's funeral, she has every right to vent. She isn't a politician and even if she was, it would STILL be appropriate. Funerals are for providing closure, if yelling about someone that slammed her father several times, in public, gives her closure? So be it.                                                         

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @6.2    8 years ago

I wouldn't expect a progressive to appreciate what is appropriate, I expected more from Megan McCain.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    8 years ago

Ok vic, tell us who should be setting the rules of what can and cannot be said at a funeral, since you think the FAMILY should only be able to say certain things? Maybe you should just say, "Meghan McCain should have only been able to say nice things about donny at her own fathers funeral, even though donny did nothing but attack her father, who is now dead". 

Her father, her father's funeral, her right to say what she wants. It's that simple. Just because she slammed your messiah doesn't mean she had no right to speak ill of him. I was under the impression that the right supported freedom of speech? Or does that only apply if trump is getting his fat orange ass kissed? 

Trump was banned from two funerals in less than two years. That speaks VOLUMES about how his own party thinks of his character. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @6.2.2    8 years ago

I understand how much you hate Trump, but a funeral is no place for politics or revenge.

Trump was banned from two funerals in less than two years. That speaks VOLUMES about how his own party thinks of his character. 

Trump was not invited, (the rarest kind of funerals - by invitation), which was a good thing. Trump might have felt obligated to attend. That would have been hypocrisy. The family did the right thing for everyone. 

What I find more interesting is the fact that Sarah Palin was not invited. I wonder if that means they blame Palin for the loss in 2008 or if there were hard feelings after that campaign?

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.2.4  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.3    8 years ago
Trump was not invited,

Wrong....Trump was asked not to be there....that isn't "Not invited"

He was banned from McCain's and Barbara Bush's, she didn't want him at hers either.

Palin and her whole election crew was "not invited" and that is for obvious reasons.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Studiusbagus @6.2.4    8 years ago

"But no matter what you think of McCain, I think we can all agree that even in death, John McCain is petty as fuck.

On his deathbed, the man literally planned out his funeral and made a list of people who he didn’t want at his homegoing services. Not a guest list, but a list of people who  couldn’t come.  According to reports, McCain wanted to make sure that President Trump and former running mate Sarah Palin weren’t invited to his funeral.

“Invitations were not extended” to Palin or Trump, Carla Eudy, a fundraiser whose been friends with the McCain family for decades,  told People ."

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.2.6  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.1    8 years ago
I wouldn't expect a progressive to appreciate what is appropriate, I expected more from Megan McCain.

Obviously you don't expect it from a president that uses tiwtter to make accusations that aren't true and attacking individuals. Nice hypocritical statement Vic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Studiusbagus @6.2.6    8 years ago

Now your'e projecting.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.2.8  devangelical  replied to  Studiusbagus @6.2.4    8 years ago

I don't think any of the McCain women had a particularly high regard for Sarah. Sarah probably doesn't have the time. Containing the number of baby daddies and mamas in her family is most likely a full time job.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.2.9  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.7    8 years ago
Now you're projecting.

 Get back to us when you know what that word means in this context.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.2.10  Studiusbagus  replied to  devangelical @6.2.8    8 years ago
I don't think any of the McCain women had a particularly high regard for Sarah

One can only support an ego infested, drunken brawler that steals the campaign props and spends the RNC credit card like she did and not have it boil over.

Can you imagine what it would've been like? Drunken arguments, cussing and throwing shit, someone in a meeting mentioning a nuclear breeder reactor and she gets pissed thinking her daughter was just insulted.......

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.2.11  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.5    8 years ago

Gee Vic, your choice of opinion columns tells much about you....also included with your link:

Here’s how funerals invites work in the black community:

Me on my way into the liquor store when I see a dude I know from middle school.

Him: Man you know Teddy Ferguson died?!

Me: Get Out! Teddy Ferguson?! Was it the sugars or the gout?

Him: Nah man, that nigga got hit by a bus!

Me: Public or Private?

Him: The funeral?

Me: Nah nigga, the bus. Was it a metro bus or a Greyhound?

Him: Not sure. The funeral is Thursday. Stay up.

And then a bit further in the article you puked up:

And how do you keep someone out of a funeral? Is there a list at the door? Wristbands? A big nigga named Jamaal in sunglasses and a black suit? Is Obama in the VIP section? Can you bring a plus-one? Can Democrats get in free before 11?

And I don't care if it was a black publication, written by a black man, two things are evident. Your choice of column says much, and the fact that you really didn't read it because it was a sarcastic compliment to McCain...or didn't you read that far? Just the headlines again?

I like this John McCain better than all the previous John McCains. My favorite John McCain is the thumbs-down-Obamacare-repeal John McCain just because of the sheer diva quality of it. If not for his bad arm, I am sure he would have cabbage-patched after he cast that deciding vote.

But this last move, this final fuck you to the worst administration to ever administrate is a close second. And, I’m here for it.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
6.2.13  Skrekk  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.5    8 years ago
“Invitations were not extended” to Palin or Trump, Carla Eudy, a fundraiser whose been friends with the McCain family for decades,  told People ."

Clearly he didn't want people of such poor character in attendance.    The King of the Birthers would have used the occasion to brag about how he was elected prez while McCain lost to The Kenyan, and the Palins would have started a brawl after imbibing too much communion wine.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
6.2.14  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.3    8 years ago
I understand how much you hate Trump, but a funeral is no place for politics or revenge.

Again, that is your opinion. She is entitled to freedom of speech, even if it does slam your messiah. Sorry.

Trump was not invited, (the rarest kind of funerals - by invitation), which was a good thing. Trump might have felt obligated to attend. That would have been hypocrisy. The family did the right thing for everyone. 

Well, to be fair, trump doesn't want to attend anything where he isn't the center of attention...funerals included. Trump has proven several times that his ego must be appeased where ever he goes. 



What I find more interesting is the fact that Sarah Palin was not invited. I wonder if that means they blame Palin for the loss in 2008 or if there were hard feelings after that campaign?

I honestly don't know. I know McCain had a lot of resentment towards Palin and he blamed her, (to a degree), for losing the election. Political historians will argue that one for decades, but picking Palin clearly had a very negative effect on McCain's campaign. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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6.2.15  KDMichigan  replied to  Studiusbagus @6.2.11    8 years ago
Gee Vic, your choice of opinion columns tells much about you....also included with your link:

laughing dude

You do realize that The Root is a strong left leaning site that caters to blacks right?

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
6.2.16  Studiusbagus  replied to  KDMichigan @6.2.15    8 years ago
You do realize that The Root is a strong left leaning site that caters to blacks right?

And in my comment was:

"And I don't care if it was a black publication, written by a black man"

Are you one of the children left behind?

Everyone in the Choir say DUHHHHHHH

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2.17  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.12    8 years ago

No worries. The tit for tat scum of the earth are free to say mean things about liberals when the POS in the WH goes maggot buffet.

 
 
 
cjfrommn
Professor Silent
6.2.20  cjfrommn  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.12    8 years ago
Most people expect reverence and a religious tone at a funeral and a positive celebration of the life of the one departed, not a political rally and vendetta against a political opponent.  

Well this is a nice Feel good statement by you. Most funerals speak to the how the person lived there life and how they maintained a certain mentality and that can be seen by the company they keep. and so a person in politics will have family or friends speak to that aspect of that persons life. No different then if that person was a musician and they speak to the beautiful sounds they made or the accomplishments of success in that area. 

so to be honest the religious tone is based on the location and the positive celebration is observed and yet like Obamas statement, he being on the other side of political spectrum from john was johns way of getting the last laugh by him, having to say nice things about him in death. And that was a political move on johns part. 

SO in the end, this is just as it is. no need to spin it , change it or flip it. trump has created a side show based on his tweets, his non presidential comments , his inability to maintain a mind your own business mentality vs private business issues and disturbingly strong lack of tact at reasonably expected  times. 

That is something john didn't want his funeral to be about. And his daughter did the right thing by reminding people of it. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.2.21  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.12    8 years ago

I'll dance on your grave.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.2.22  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.12    8 years ago
Most people expect reverence and a religious tone at a funeral and a positive celebration of the life of the one departed, not a political rally and vendetta against a political opponent.

It's interesting that mere platitudes about McCain's life and values are being interpreted by conservative extremists as direct slams against Trump's poor character.    Sounds like you folks are finally waking up.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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6.2.23  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.2.12    8 years ago
Most people expect reverence and a religious tone at a funeral and a positive celebration of the life of the one departed, not a political rally and vendetta against a political opponent.  

So now you make the rules for how people and their loved ones should plan how their funerals are conducted?  Why not, for a change, you tend to your own business and keep your nose out of everyone elses'? 

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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6.3  Studiusbagus  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    8 years ago
Senator John McCain sunk the very legislation that the GOP had labored on for almost a year,

Funny...and this whole time Obama was president they swore they had a healthcare plan to replace the PPACA, that was a lie. And then Trump swore he had a plan that was better than the PPACA at a fraction of the cost...that was a lie. Then they cobbled up something that got nailed by the public, the insurance companies, the medical profession....and it of course failed.

Yeah, they worked so hard....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Studiusbagus @6.3    8 years ago
Yeah, they worked so hard.

They certainly worked hard in 2017.

Like I said " had labored on for almost a year".  

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
6.3.2  lib50  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.3.1    8 years ago
Like I said "  had labored on for almost a year" .

What exactly did they labor on?  It definitely wasn't a new bill to give us wonderful healthcare!  It was the same thing they've spent time on since it passed!  Repealing the ACA with nothing to replace it with! What a fricken waste of time!  This time the GOP will go down over healthcare,  Americans now understand what the ACA delivered and how devastating it would be to lose.  About damn time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/31/house-republicans-have-spent-378-hours-on-votes-to-undercut-obamacare-that-went-nowhere/?utm_term=.5662d296bf50

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.3.4  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @6.3.3    8 years ago

Famous last quotes.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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6.4  Colour Me Free  replied to  Vic Eldred @6    8 years ago
I don't blame Megan McCain for feeling the way she does, after all our children, if they are normal, are always on our side. The question becomes was it appropriate to use her father's funeral to take shots at his primary political opponent.

I can understand Meghan's feelings - I am very protective of my dad... 

As far as being appropriate goes .. one tuning into the funeral or watching sound bites the media played and replayed over and over again .. that was unfamiliar with the history between McCain and [he who shall not be named] might think [he who shall not be named] was the cause of McCain's death.. (okay, so it was not quite that bad) … but...

I guess I was expecting to hear stories that celebrated Senator John McCain's life - not petty shots at the current president...

For good measure, she added, “The America of John McCain has no need to be made great again because America was always great.”

Why the past tense - Meghan appeared to have spent time writing her thoughts on paper to be spoken at her fathers services … would not 'American has always been great .. so John McCain's America was always great, but it is no longer great since he passed?  Perhaps this is why the media kept going on and on about the death of an era in politics..

The death of Sen. John McCain marks the passing of a man, an American patriot and a politician whose record of service to country will always be his defining attribute. His death also punctuates the passing of an era of American politics, one that in these troubled times seems almost irretrievable.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-passing-of-john-mccain-also-marks-the-passing-of-an-era/2018/08/25/196aebcc-a8db-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html?utm_term=.8de0ee5d01f3

I hold Mr. McCain in very high regard, a man of honor and worthy of respect - a man our children should be reading about in history books for his love and service to his country .. not eulogized in vindictive jabs at the current president - the man served 25 years in the US military another 30+ years in Congress .. yet several speaking at his services even, with all that history, focused on the past 2+ish years of history..

RIP Senator John McCain .. thank you for your service!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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6.4.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Colour Me Free @6.4    8 years ago
I guess I was expecting to hear stories that celebrated Senator John McCain's life

There were plenty of those.  In fact, those were the overwhelming majority of the event.   You apparently didn't listen or decided after the fact to ignore them.  

 
 
 
JumpDrive
Freshman Silent
7  JumpDrive    8 years ago

This was a somewhat heartening read; any negative mentioned was immediately attributed to Trump. At least on some level supporters know what Trump is.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
8  Studiusbagus    8 years ago
On social media, the reaction was mostly one of shock and sadness at the lack of self-awareness, as opposed to the bitterness that emanated from the Washington National Cathedral:

Sure got that right! Even down to the wording...:

     I wonder how @IvankaTrump feels sitting in that cathedral knowing no one wants her dad there and they are throwing jabs at him the entire time. Anyone with a drop of self-awareness would have stayed home
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Meghan pulls no punches as she eulogizes the late, great John McCain. @ IvankaTrump must feel very small sitting there, hearing about Meghan's special relationship with her father, a man so much greater, nobler, and heroic than her own... # McCainFuneral # SaturdayMorning
 
 
 
MrFrost
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8.1  MrFrost  replied to  Studiusbagus @8    8 years ago

Ivanka trump wasn't even invited, and she was caught texting during the funeral..  Trump and his disgusting children have no class at all. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.1    8 years ago

So I was right then, the right is attacking the McCain family despite HA's article's trying to spin it the other way with his vox article. 

Thanks for pointing that out! Also, good to know you think it's appropriate to text at a funeral. 

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
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8.1.4  Studiusbagus  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1.1    8 years ago
Trump’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared were invited to the funeral and were forced to sit there and be humiliated,

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday said Ivanka Trump 's "very nice" comments about the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) were "not unnoticed by the family" when explaining why she and her husband, Jared Kushner , were invited to McCain's memorial service on Saturday.

Former Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), who was so close with the Republican senators that the trio was referred to as the "Three Amigos," added that he spoke to Trump and Kushner after the funeral and they had "no complaints" about the implicit references to and commentary about President Trump  throughout the ceremony.  

"I thanked them, as John’s friend," Lieberman said on CNN. "It meant a lot. At the end, I spoke to them too and there were no complaints. They felt that the whole service was a great tribute to him." 
 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  Studiusbagus @8.1.4    8 years ago
and were forced to sit there and be humiliated,

(not aimed at you)

Yea, they were chained to the chairs, not allowed to get up and walk out if they wanted to. The spin is strong in this article.. LOL

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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8.1.6  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @8.1.2    8 years ago

You were there and saw her texting, eh?

Sure.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
8.1.7  Colour Me Free  replied to  MrFrost @8.1    8 years ago

  Lindsey Graham facilitated an invitation through Cindy McCain for Ivanka and Jared ..

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
8.1.8  lib50  replied to  Colour Me Free @8.1.7    8 years ago

And Meghan didn't let that change her planned eulogy, good for her. 

I'm still trying to figure out why conservatives get their knickers in a twist when someone strongly and loudly 'tells it like it is' after hearing how much they love it.  WTF?  Trump family should have felt all warm and fuzzy hearing that honesty (of course that may have been the problem, they are used to lies and dishonesty).  Nothing as raw as the feelings at the eulogy of someone you love fiercely, and I thought she was spectacular, her dad is proud. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
8.1.9  lib50  replied to  1stwarrior @8.1.6    8 years ago
You were there and saw her texting, eh?

Did you miss those pictures?

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
8.1.10  Colour Me Free  replied to  lib50 @8.1.8    8 years ago

Yeah I am still trying to figure that out about liberals as well

Her dad is proud of her petty bitterness?  McCain is proud that his life's worked was summed up by the past 2+ years of his life - or is that all the deeper those that are sooo anti Trump can think?

Thankfully Mr. McCain's legacy will not be defined by the bullshit Trump spewed about 'heroes'  - but after the services Saturday .. well ... I guess it will remain to be seen if those that loved John can let go of hate and honor the man's life work - without Trump living rent free in their heads.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
8.1.11  lib50  replied to  Colour Me Free @8.1.10    8 years ago
petty bitterness

Not surprising you project Trump on to Meghan.  She was not about petty bitterness.  She is about righting the wrong being done TODAY.   She has a message that resonates with many Americans, and it's not about petty bullshit, its about the very foundation of what this country is about.   I'd respectfully ask you to go back to 'petty bitterness' and tell us what you think about Trump's many many comments.  If you can apply your standards to him, get back to us, otherwise the  'concerns' are meaningless.  Support the biggest dick asshole on the planet,   don't get to complain about incoming.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
8.1.12  Colour Me Free  replied to  lib50 @8.1.11    8 years ago

Not surprising you dwell on all things Trump and project all things Trump onto others - funny how those that dislike him the most ultimately behave quite a bit like him... petty bitterness spawns petty bitterness .. it is quite obvious Trump is full of it...

Have a good day!

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
8.1.13  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @8.1.6    8 years ago
You were there and saw her texting, eh?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Quiet
8.1.14  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @8.1    8 years ago
and she was caught texting during the funeral.

Oh the horror. Good thing she wasn't acting like a ugly cow filling her face during the funeral.

laughing dude

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
8.1.16  Studiusbagus  replied to  Colour Me Free @8.1.10    8 years ago
without Trump living rent free in their heads.

Hiya!

  For some reason I tend to think John had a hand in his daughters eulogy, not the wording, but the spirit of it. Trump has been living in her head rent free for a couple years. This may be her way of evicting him for closure all the way around. I can imagine him telling her "Take your shot and then let it go".

We'll have to see what she does for me to be correct in my assumption.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Silent
8.1.18  Colour Me Free  replied to  Studiusbagus @8.1.16    8 years ago

Good point ..

I am rather protective of my dad .. I honestly do not know to what extent I would go to protect him if his sacrifice was being mocked - I hope I would not become consumed by it and would simply be able to honor him when the time comes I have to let him go - he will be 80 in October.

I really believe that some things are best left ignored .. never give someone the impression that they were able to goad 'you / me' etc .. not always easy to do . but OOOOOOO what sweet revenge it is to see their face / hear their reaction when one fails to acknowledge their existence 

(Trump stayed home - and that is where he should have stay .. but NO .. he was present throughout the service..)    sad really..

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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8.1.19  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @8.1.13    8 years ago

OMFG - you're gonna rely on that to state she was texting?????

Well, so was Laura Bush if those are your criteria.

 
 
 
Studiusbagus
Sophomore Silent
8.1.20  Studiusbagus  replied to  Colour Me Free @8.1.18    8 years ago
never give someone the impression that they were able to goad 'you / me' etc .

I give and get IRL, it's when I get really quiet and polite that the "uh oh" falls in the room.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
9  MrFrost    8 years ago

Trump attacked McCain constantly, but here we have yet another article trying to spin it so the left is bashing the McCain family? Sad and disgusting. 

John McCain was a politician, bringing politics up at his funeral isn't an insult. McCain's daughter is not a politician and her need to lash out at trump for attacking her now deceased father isn't only acceptable, it's understandable. 

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10  Rmando    8 years ago

This funeral and the one for Aretha Franklin both turned into farces that did a disservice to the ones they were supposed to honor. Did Megan McCain who is on the View five times a week have no other public forum to take shots at Trump? All she and others did was prove the level of derangement the left and never Trumpers have for him. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1  lib50  replied to  Rmando @10    8 years ago
All she and others did was prove the level of derangement the left and never Trumpers have for him. 

Do you ever read or listen to how Trump/ers talk about others?  Do you realize they still talk about HILLARY, FFS?  Talk about derangement!  Meghan was honest, telling it like it was.  Embrace it or call it out when Trump does it, which is every day.  Literally.  I hope Meghan is on tomorrow for the View's premier, and she keeps on 'telling it like it is'. 

 
 
 
Rmando
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10.1.1  Rmando  replied to  lib50 @10.1    8 years ago

The day they ever "tell it like it is" on the View is the day pigs fly- or Hillary actually becomes President.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1.2  lib50  replied to  Rmando @10.1.1    8 years ago

They strongly speak their mind, which conservatives say they like.  Was that a lie?

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10.1.3  Rmando  replied to  lib50 @10.1.2    8 years ago

There's nothing wrong with somebody speaking their minds- if they have the facts to back it up. Most of the "discussions" on that show are emotionally driven drivel that's nothing more than scripted sound bytes. They are as vapid as the rest of network daytime tv.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
10.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @10.1.4    8 years ago
President Hillary?

You are going to flag that as off topic right? I mean, you flag off topic comments if you don't like them.... 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
10.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Release The Kraken @10.1.6    8 years ago

Than what? Yesterday? 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1.10  lib50  replied to  Rmando @10.1.3    8 years ago
There's nothing wrong with somebody speaking their minds- if they have the facts to back it up.

Really?  Explain your support of Trump and believing what he says, when he literally lies about everything and anything.    Until conservatives deal with the head liar and their apparently blind support of anything he decides to say, they don't get to decide what facts are, since they go for the 'alternative facts' known as lies.   We know what Meghan said was true, we heard and saw it ourselves.  Conservatives have a truth problem, and it starts at the top.  Deal with it.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1.11  lib50  replied to  Rmando @10.1.3    8 years ago
facts to back it up.

So as soon as I leave NT I see this:

Woodward's 448-page book, "Fear: Trump in the White House," provides an unprecedented inside-the-room look through the eyes of the President's inner circle. From the Oval Office to the Situation Room to the White House residence, Woodward uses confidential background interviews to illustrate how some of the President's top advisers view him as a danger to national security and have sought to circumvent the commander in chief.
Many of the feuds and daily clashes have been well documented, but the picture painted by Trump's confidants, senior staff and Cabinet officials reveal that many of them see an even more alarming situation — worse than previously known or understood. Woodward offers a devastating portrait of a dysfunctional Trump White House, detailing how senior aides — both current and former Trump administration officials — grew exasperated with the President and increasingly worried about his erratic behavior, ignorance and penchant for lying. 
Trump and the GOP have  big problems, his lies just one part.  
 
 
 
Rmando
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10.1.12  Rmando  replied to  lib50 @10.1.10    8 years ago

Trump has delivered or tried to on the things that matter- taxes, cutting regulations, putting judges on the courts that actually interpret instead of writing laws, dealing with enemy countries instead  of appeasing them...

Obama on the other hand lied about shovel ready jobs, red lines in the sand, closing Gitmo, not expanding the debt, swapping terrorists for traitors, etc...

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
10.1.13  lib50  replied to  Rmando @10.1.12    8 years ago

Closing gitmo?  Because republicans obstructed?  Did that piss you off?  

I'm pretty sure you aren't trying to compare Trump's lies over the last couple of years to Obama's entire life.  Trump is in a whole other universe and even his lawyers know he can't stop lying about EVERYTHING.  I smell FEAR.  lol

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
10.2  cjcold  replied to  Rmando @10    8 years ago
to take shots at Trump

One can never take too many shots at Trump.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
10.2.1  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @10.2    8 years ago

Oops. sure didn't mean that in any second amendment way. I believe in democracy.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
11  JBB    8 years ago

Let me get this straight, tributes to McCain's decency and honesty are affronts to Trump. How so? The way I figure it, Trump and the Trumpsters are so damn insecure and vulnerable that nobody can even speak well of the dead without Trumpsters taking offense since Trump stands in such stark contrast with any fine qualities apparent in others men. How bizarre and telling it is that Trumpsters feel any mention of McCain's better qualities is an insult to Trump given his dearth of virtues... 

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
11.1  Rmando  replied to  JBB @11    8 years ago

"Let me get this straight, tributes to McCain's decency and honesty are affronts to Trump."

No. Trashing Trump indirectly with less than subtle language is an affront to Trump. The McCains could've kept the focus on the senator but they decided to be insulting. So they chose to get their little pot shots in and NOT focus on McCain himself.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
11.1.1  Skrekk  replied to  Rmando @11.1    8 years ago
Trashing Trump indirectly with less than subtle language is an affront to Trump.

Sounds like he has far too fragile an ego to be a good president.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
11.1.2  Rmando  replied to  Skrekk @11.1.1    8 years ago

That's funny to say, considering the last guy got velvet glove treatment by the msm and still blamed racism for any criticism he got.

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
11.1.3  Skrekk  replied to  Rmando @11.1.2    8 years ago
That's funny to say, considering the last guy got velvet glove treatment by the msm and still blamed racism for any criticism he got.

That's a rather absurd comment, but it certainly is true that conservatives voted for the racist King of the Birthers.    Apparently the fact that a black guy won twice in a landslide was too much for them to bear.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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11.1.5  Skrekk  replied to  Texan1211 @11.1.4    8 years ago
Too much to take???

That's why they're called "reactionaries."

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
11.1.9  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @11.1.8    8 years ago

Speaking of race cards, it turns out that one of the editors at Tucker Carlson's right wing "Daily Caller" also works for a white supremacist publication.    LOL.

The former Daily Caller writer and editor Scott Greer has severed all ties with the conservative website after acknowledging that he had written under a pseudonym for the white-supremacist Radix Journal . Greer, who stepped down as an editor at The Daily Caller in June to write a book, said he would drop his contributor status last week after The Atlantic confronted him with leaked chat logs that showed he had spent some of his time at the website also writing as “Michael McGregor” for Radix , the online publication founded by the “alt-right” leader Richard Spencer, who wants to turn America into a white ethno-state.
 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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13  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    8 years ago

It seems what's bothering our trumpsters the most is that the McCain family is not a bunch of scummy hypocrites and aren't trying to pretend to have anything but appropriate contempt for the Scumbag de Mar-a-Lago.  Even said Scumbag uncharacteristically kept his lying trap relatively shut over the weekend--no doubt he'll have a lot of butt-hurt whining saved up for the coming days. 

 
 
 
Rmando
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13.1  Rmando  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @13    8 years ago

Further proof that no matter what Trump does the left will find something to criticize.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Rmando @13.1    8 years ago

Fuck Trump. 

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
13.1.4  Rmando  replied to  JohnRussell @13.1.2    8 years ago

And that attitude is why the Dems keep losing. They'll be lucky just to take the House back this year. Voters want more than blind hatred of Trump.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
13.1.5  lib50  replied to  Rmando @13.1.4    8 years ago
Voters want more than blind hatred of Trump.

I hope voters want more than Trump's blind hatred. 

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
13.1.6  Rmando  replied to  lib50 @13.1.5    8 years ago

The hate is all on the left. Today's farce of a confirmation hearing proves it.

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
13.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  Rmando @13.1.6    8 years ago
The hate is all on the left

Really? Trump attacks people every day all day long. Clearly you don't follow his twitter feed. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
14  JohnRussell    8 years ago

I was never really a great fan of John McCain. He was far too conservative for me. 

But Ray Charles , Stevie Wonder, and Ronnie Milsap could all see McCain was a hundred times the man Trump is. 

Hell, I could pull a random man off the street and he would almost certainly be a better man than Trump is. This is the reality that Trump supporters are forced to deny. They are supporters of one of the worst people in America. That's gotta sting in their heart of hearts. 

As for the seeded article, it is relentlessly stupid. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
14.1  Skrekk  replied to  JohnRussell @14    8 years ago

I wonder if there is even one American of good character who would want either Trump or Palin to attend their funeral?

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
15  A. Macarthur    8 years ago

What fucking hypocrisy!

One day a bunch of Trumpian hypocrites bash Vox for publishing an article inappropriately close to McCain's death … but NOW … a seeder has no problem seeding an article trashing McCain's daughter …

Sickening, two-faced partisan hypocrisy!

 
 
 
Skrekk
Sophomore Quiet
19  Skrekk    8 years ago

There's some very good commentary today about how  generic platitudes about McCain's life and values are being interpreted by conservative loons as being slams against Trump's profoundly poor character, despite no one directly mentioning the racist King of the Birthers.    It  starts at about 24:30 in this audio clip:

I do love the part where Obama said:

So much of our politics, our public life, our public discourse can seem small and mean, and petty. Trafficking in bombast and insult, and phony controversies, and manufactured outrage. It's a politics that pretends to be brave, and tough, but in fact is born of fear.
John called on us to be bigger than that — he called on us to better than that.
 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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20  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    8 years ago

I'm enjoying the hell out of reading the righteous indignation (and, of course, the usual butt-hurt) at Ms. McCain's from trumpsters who don't just tolerate but enjoy the horrible filth that comes out of their Scumbag's nasty gob on a daily basis.  If hypocrisy didn't already exist these people would have invented it.  As it is, they've perfected it.  

 
 

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